look at marquez face, do you think he won that fight??? marquez face is like a hamburger. therefore pac had more power punches than marquez. still pac is dangerous fighter thats why flyod doesn't want to fight pac.
we will never know what will happen.. like i said styles make fights... i just want them to fight.. how come marquez fought pac without any question... why floyd cant? if pac was on roids? how come it was a close fight with marquez? hope you understand my point bro.. and marquez was steeping on pacs foot the whole time... hehe :) by the way you have a good review.. we all are boxing fans... its just so wrong to accuse someone with drugs.. and the person we are talking too is a very good man...
marquez fought floyd going forward... marquez fought pac going backwards... :)simple... im not hating bro... but marquez took chances than floyd... at least marquez opens up... floyd puts his gloves in his body and face when someone is punching.. see? marquez and floyd is dfrnt... we will never know what will happen.. like i said styles make fights... i just want them to fight.. how come marquez fought pac without any question... why floyd cant?
only thing i dont agree with is this... if you win 1 round landing 30 punches and i win the next with 25, it's stil an even fight, just saying punches landed isnt quite as definitive as you make it seem in the begining of your vid, especially when we remember that marquez outlanded pac in the first 2 fights and most people (non-fans) thought marquez took atleast one of those fights
Dude, Manny didn't land any clean hard shots. Fights are scored on compubox. Marquez was controlling the fight. You don't steal the round by flailing around and lunging in off balance. Marquez hit him with the cleaner harder punches. I think Marquez won the fight comfortably. Manny got frustrated. If Manny wasn't Manny you'd have said Marquez won the fight.
Did you look at marquez face after the fight? He face was mess up and full of bruise than the 2nd fight. Manny's face don't have any bruise and wasn't messed up, just a cut. If you look in their first fight, marquez landed more hard shot resulting for pacquiao bruise face. Even in clottey fight, pacquiao face were bruise up. I had marquez winning it 115-113 but to say pac didn't land a clean shot prove you're a joke and bias.
@vitalcoordinates Dude i was supporting manny in the fight! Everyone knows that in boxing your face can puff up from grazing shots, from the opponent thumbing ur eye, if you have high cheek bones like Marquez you can puff up easily... faces don't mean nothing. look at the fight. did Pacquiao hurt marquez or snap his head back with any punches. At most his punches were grazing, partially blocked by Marquez. He never found a way to overcome Marquez' defense and style.
@brendos444 Did you read my whole post? Puff up easy? LOL Marquez face wasn't puff up in their 2nd fight so it doesn't have to do with the cheekbone stuff. Compare Marquez Face in the 1st 2nd and 3rd.
@vitalcoordinates lol it's been about 3 or 4 years since they last fought (prolly cos Arum was dodging JMM for the rematch). JMM has been in several wars since then. More scare tissue, easier to puff up. It doesn't mean nothing!!! His face wasn't that badly damaged. What's clear if you actually watched the fight is that JMM was outboxing manny. He might have got caught with some grazing punches but very few of them landed flush. Most of the clean punches were landed by JMM.
@brendos444 Haha bias, no you're not a boxing fans the moment you said the word "Dodging" LOL. The reason JMM vs Pac 3 didn't happen earlier is because they have in different promotion and the dispute of it (GBP and TOP rank) same reason Pac Vs Barrera II didn't happen earlier than expected. "Most of the clean punches were landed by JMM" And yet Pacquiao Face was cleaner than the first 2 fight where marquez clearly landed clean punches.
@vitalc lol manny's team dodged jmm. just like manny's team have been dodging floyd mayweather. Arum doesn't want his cash cow getting beaten. You're the one who's not the boxing fan. Everyone concedes that JMM landed the better shots in the fight. and again, most of manny's punches were grazing, partially blocked etc. This can cause the minor damage JMM got. also headbuts can cause the sort of damage caused by Marquez. You can't show ANY clean punches from Manny that fight!!!
@brendos444 Wow a flomo haha LOL. No it was marquez who was ducking pac for 4 years. Team Pac offered JMM a $700k Guaranties for immediate rematch and yet JMM avoid pac and fight Chris John for a peanut and lost Lmao. Wrong, it was mayqeather who was ducking him, asking for $100m, OSDT, Higer purse split, Floyd Sr: "I feared for my sons life if he fight pacquiao w.o OSDT" LOL .. Wrong again, here's a vid LOL. watch?v=BYC2qTYfSHs&feature=related
@vitalcoordinates No no, we all know that the reason the fight hasn't happened with floyd is cos of Arum. Its the same reason arum never put Cotto in there with Floyd. As for JMM, Manny and his team opted to fight Diaz instead of giving JMM a rematch cos they knew he was the real winner of the second fight. They waited for him to get old and make him move up. btw I'm a pac supporter. Even visited Gen San from Australia to see his house and where he grew up. But I'm not biased
@brendos444 I'm a boxing supporter long before pacquiao was on the scene. But as a boxing supporter i know that guys who very good skills will always trouble pacquiao. imo guys like floyd, JMM will always beat pac. And if a guy like bernard hopkins was in the same weight class, he'd beat pac too. Same with a guy like Andre Ward. Pacquiao won't beat these type of fighters. That's just the truth.
@brendos444 No no, we all know that the reason the fight hasn't happened with floyd is because of floyd ego and he's afraid to fight PAC unless he submitted to OSDT and give floyd higher split and 100m guarant. JMM: "We want a rematch" LOL why i though you won? Only looser want a rematch like pac in the first morales fight, And pac already offered him ater the first fight and it took 4 years for JMM to find his balls. I'm a boxing fans, i watched fraizer vs Ali live here in araneta.
@vitalcoordinates after seeing JMM vs Pac in November, there's no one who'd be scared of pac. of course they dodged JMM. They dodged him after the first fight. They dodged him after the second fight and after the third fight it was Arum talking about the rematch not JMM!!! they knew floyd smashed JMM and JMM just made manny look like an amateur. JMM knew he won and said that he was going to retire cos the judges seem paid off by Arum! Floyd will take manny to school. Easy win!
@brendos444 Like i said it was marquez who was ducking pac for 4 years. Team Pac offered JMM a $700k Guaranties for immediate rematch and yet JMM avoid pac and fight Chris John for a peanut and lost. The article are all over the place search it. It's facts.
@vitalcoordinates JMM wasn't the one who wants the rematch!!! It is Roach and Arum cos they knew JMM just made Manny look bad and people will be less interested in the Floyd fight cos floyd beat JMM easy. I mean JMM didn't even win a single round against Floyd and pac has trouble even hitting him!!! C'mon you're biased. I'm not black or filo. I'm a fight fan from Oz. You are kidding yourself if u think Pac is even on the same level as floyd.
@brendos444 there are three punches floyd will beat manny with. the left jab, lead left hook and straight right. Meanwhile manny won't get near floyd cos of his defense. Manny's gotta hope that he can somehow land a big punch on floyd otherwise ur looking at a wide UD for floyd or possibly a late stoppage after manny taking too many punches. the longer the fight goes, the better mayweather will be in that fight. Manny just cannot adjust his style in fights. He'll get schooled.
@brendos444 And deep down Roach knows this, Arum knows this, and Filo boxing fans know this. Manny's only got a punchers chance. That's all. If he can pull off a big punch then he might be able to win. But you're not gonna get Mayweather outta there with just one punch. Floyd will adjust and prolly come back and take over the fight. He wants the fight on May 5. Arum is stalling simple as that. Roach knows it too. He knows that he can't teach manny anything that will trouble floyd.
@brendos444 If that's so then this is bullshit fight and i wont give floyd credit for fighting pac because he's a midget with no skill and a bum and is a left over of his leftover LOL but hey i'm not flomo bias like you, i'm a boxing fan and i think it would be entertaining and competitive and there's a reason why all of boxing fans want this fight.
@vitalcoordinates i'm no flomo, but i know floyd is gonna win this. you know wat, if floyd wins this easy, which many experts agree is a good chance of happening, then perhaps we will see that manny is a lil overhyped and extremely limited against skilfull fighters. Wat will u say if floyd wins easy? A lot of ppl expect this to happen. But of course Manny is a gr8 fighter, its just that floyd is prolly top 2 all tym. And it will be no shame to Manny for losing against floyd.
@brendos444 As a fite fan I've seen this many times. A strong explosive fighter come up against a skilfull technician. The skilfull fighter always wins. Think of Trinidad v Hopkins. Every1 thought Trinidad will win easy. He was knocking every1 out. but bhop schooled him and ko'd him in R12. Think of Tua v Lewis. Tua was the most feared HW, but Lewis schooled him. I luv Trinidad and Tua, just like I luv watching Pac. But Ive seen this b4. The skilfull guys always wins.
@vitalcoordinates You're one stupid pactard. Everyone knows Bob Arum doesn't want Pac to fight Floyd and is holding him back because he knows that the way Floyd fights, Pac can't win. Its chess, not checkers and Floyd is a genius when it comes to boxing while Pac will always try to brawl with his limited footwork and leave many openings to counter-punches.
@TEHWEEZY LOL You're the one stupid flomo. Everyone knows floyd doesn't want to fight pacquiao unless pac submitted to OSDT because all of the cracked head mayweather family doesn't believe fraud i mean floyd can beat pacquiao with just urine test. Jail is just another way to duck pac floyd rather want to go to jail than face pac. FLOYD SR: "I fear for my son's life if he fight pac without OSDT". And they call themselves a "G"? LOL
@brendos444 I know Floyd got advantage over manny in skill department that's why i don't understand his ego why he's so afraid to fight Pac without OSDT. And why the fuck Floyd sr said "I fear for my son's life if pac wont take OSDT". I'm pretty sure floyd know boxing more than you so pls explain
@vitalcoordinates if pac wants to fite him take the OSDT and just get it on. I used to think floyd was stalling the fight, but not anymore. Luk at the guys manny has fought recently, all of them are Arum fighters. wat did Clottey do to deserve a fite with Manny? What did Margarito do to deserve a fite? Same with Cotto. Arum is just making sure all the money is his. It's just like he never put Cotto and Margarito in with Floyd. He's wants it all.
@brendos444 Dumb ass did you read my post? I said JMM wins in my card. How can i be biased LOL. They know they lost that fight that's why they ask the rematch same as JMM ask for a rematch in the 2nd fight because JMM know he lost the fight lol. You're not a fight fan you're a flomo and bias. "You are kidding yourself if u think Pac is even on the same level as floyd." Apparently floyd don't think like you, there's a reason why he ask for OSDT " I smell fear LOL.
@vitalcoordinates I don't think Manny is scared of floyd... I think his team are ducking floyd cos they know what will happen. I think the fight will happen cos Arum realises that he's maximized the earnings from pac and if he doesn't take the fight with floyd now, the earnings from the fight can only decrease. What floyd snr says is diff from wat floyd says and thinks. They dont even like each other. Floyd has faced more dangerous fighters, ODLH @ 154, Corrales, Castillo
@vitalcoordinates of course if you officially lose the fight on the judges cards but feel that u won the fight, u will want a rematch to correct the record. Manny's team wanted the rematch after the 3rd fite becos they knew the value of the floyd fite went down cos floyd beat up JMM easy. They needed a big win to create hype for the fite with floyd. JMM is 38 now. He's fought manny 3 times and shud have won twice. First fite manny wins on my card cos of R1.
What's up bro, after watching 3 times I still have Marquez win this fight. 1st time I watched it I had Marquez 115-113, 2nd time 116-112 & 3rd time 118-110... Marquez landed all the clean body shots, clean head shots. Had Pacquiao's head snapping all over the place...
So you're saying De La Hoya should of beat floyd since he threw more punches based on compubox numbers? So sometimes these numbers count, sometimes they don't right? If fights should be based on who lands more punches so why not remove the judges and just use compubox stats? You really don't have a clue of how boxing is scored bro. Go cotton pick.
pacman is a victim of expectation, his failure to knock marquez out gives d perception of his defeat,but d truth is he landed more shots than marquez & d judges got d better angle to see that,. i agree w/ wt emanuel steward said that marquez did not do enough to steal d crown..& wow somebody hit JMM hard that made his face looks like a crippled butt & gave him a gift to look like chinese in that day..lol
Glad your back man. Its been a while...I have to say Marquez is a great boxer. He showed it once again and was robbed in my opinion. It was very close but Marquez should of got the W. I agree with you that Mayweather is a great technical boxer as is Marquez they both are, and they both have in my opinion the same tools. Now if Marquez was as big as Mayweather and weighed in as much as Mayweather did in that fight it may have been not so one sided. Marquez was the smaller dude and out of his
element. None the less he's game either way. To answer the question I don't think Pac has a chance against Mayweather, he's gonna out box him as did Marquez and stick to his game plan. It should be an ass whoopin to say the least. That being said when are you gonna bust out the B.O.M.B man. whats the hold up?
correct me if im wrong.... if fight happen between floyd and manny floyd will beat manny on the presscon , floyd has better and have that automatic mouth compare to pac and floyd will attempt to move closer so his nose will touch manny's nose manny can't do that....
I think Marquez is way too different to Floyd cause Floyd doesn't take chances when he box while Marquez do take chances while countering. That will spell the big difference and that will have Pac a great chance to have a win.
@SuperVash01 Thx for commenting SuperVash01. The true question is "when will Manny fight an Ultra Elite fighter in Floyd?" Why? Because Manny is elite, Marquez is Elite. Floyd is Ultra Elite. The decision to fight rests on Manny. Floyd wanted to fight him in February or 5/5/12, but Top Rank boxing officially announced on Nov 14th they are pursuing a 4th bout with Marquez. The ball is in Juan's court now and according to Nacho, they're demanding $25mil, & the location of mexico city, mexico.
@TheSaiZone is margarito,cotto,mosley,and other big guys that pacman fought before is not an elite fighter?
non of this guy except mosley and give mayweather a hrdtime to beat him.y did maywether not fight with margarito,clottey,and cotto?why mayweather took round 9 to ko hatton?y mayweather simply kick marques ass while pacman having a hardtime with marques?
why maywether dont want to sign the contract rather talk shit to pacman.
we will not see the answer until they step togetherin the ring.
@SuperVash01 (PART 1) I never said Margarito, Cotto, Clotty and other big guys Manny fought were not elite fighters. I never said they were either because Mosley, Margartio, Cotto and Clottey aren't elite fighters. Manny is an elite fighter over these fighters which makes these fighter "great" fighters.
How long it takes to and how a boxer defeats another boxer is not a complete measurement of the greatness of a boxer. For example, Foreman annihilated Frazier, but George wasKO'd by Ali. (cont)
@SuperVash01 (part 2) Frazier beat Ali, but was KO'd by Foremen. So how can we determine when a boxer is elite or ultra elite? All we can judge them by is their performance against top level TECHNICAL BOXERS.The only common denominator between Manny & Floyd is Juan. Manny had 3 bouts with Juan, all were 50/50. Floyd toy'd w/ him for 12rds after a 2yr layoff, holding him to 12%.
Who has the 1 style to dominate against every other style, Floyd. That's how we determine Ultra Elite. (cont)
@SuperVash01 (part 3) To ask "y don't mayweather sign the contract...?" is possibly your way of ignoring the fact that there are other factors involved. As much as you or any1 else may way to downplay the testing issue, the fact remains that Manny is the hold up. To this day, he has not agreed to 7-day cut off terms. Arum, Roach, Ariza continue to make public statements refusing USADA testing, while manny strategically says "yes, I'll take tests." It's the good cop/bad cop routine (cont)...
@SuperVash01 Which brings us to where we are today; a place where casual fans are confused thinking "manny said yes!"- yet they don't realize Arum, Roach, Ariza, and Koncz are all countering Manny's own statements by saying "We're not doing any testing outside of boxing's testing." This is what you call public relations. Let manny be seen saying "I'll test", but we'll (arum and others) will for damn sure refuse testing.
@TheSaiZone who started this steroid issue?its mayweather camp right?and who is the superb elite fighter does floyd fought?like i type a while ago we will find the answer until we will see them step in to the ring and exchanging blows.even mayweather have physical advantage for me i see pacman will late stoppage win ether unanimous decision.
@SuperVash01 (part 1) 1st of all, Floyd never said "Manny is on steroids." Floyd simply said "his rise in strength, weight and power are suspicious to me, I want testing to ensure we're on a level playing field." Now to answer ur question, it's not about who started what, the bottom line is Manny has 100% power to finish it, just like Ortiz and Mosley who stepped up & tested, nuff said, fight was signed and on. (cont)
@SuperVash01 (part 2) Your statement of "like i type a while ago we will find the answer until we will see them step in to the ring and exchanging blows" further sheds light on your boxing IQ- which is unfortunately sub par. Boxing is not about "exchanging blows." Boxing is about hitting while limiting the amount of times your opponent hits you, and if a KO comes, that's icing on the cake. Emotionally, we love to see boxers exchange but strategically it's a waste. (cont)
@SuperVash01 (part 3) boxing is no different from war. The main objective of war is to limit causalities. Attack your enemy by employing a strategy that minimizes risk of causalities (hits). This is the mind set of ultra elite boxing. Keep moving, create and exploit openings, hit and get out then reset, defend against all types of punches and strike within the small windows that present themselves while you're under attack, clinch to minimize ur opponents chances of engaging you cleanly.
@TheSaiZone exchanging blows....hmmm you are american right?English is your first language right?you know what im trying to say.boxing is punching each other,so bring what floyd has and pacman will taking care for what floyd will bring him.i dont care if floyd is a defensive master pacman can handle that.best defense is offence.
@SuperVash01 (part 1) You have the wrong concept of boxing. Boxing is a science. Test it out for yourself. Hit me, then let me hit you. After you wake up from me knocking out, the first thing i'm going to say to you "You shouldn't have gotten hit!" lol Of course I can hit you when you hit me, i.e. exchanging punches, but the most effective way is to hit you without letting you gain a point back. End result is i've hit you, you didn't hit me. The refs see it and so does compubox. (cont)
@SuperVash01 (part 2) It all comes to light when the judges score a fight. They look at who landed the cleaner more effective punches and one way to help the judges see your in control of the fight is by hitting your opponent and getting out of there before they can even lay a hand on you. At the end of the round the judges are thinking "damn, he's hitting him at will and the other guy can't land anything at all. Clearly this guys is in control of the fight." Common sense.
(Part 4) then to finish it all off, Manny comes out and says "The decision to whom I'll fight is my on my manager, Bob Arum." So let's cut to the chase and ask the real question "What's the purpose of Manny even saying he's willing to test if Arum, Roach, Ariz, and Koncz is going to shut it all down anyway and Manny then going to relent and say "I follow their lead".... what's the purpose Manny?" Public Relations perception games.
@SuperVash01@TheSaiZone@SuperVash01@TheSaiZone come on men..why mayweather ask him self?floyd is a 6 times world champion also.and he carry hes power, strength,speed!he just afraid of fighting pacquiao.and steriod Issue?he accuse manny taking some power pellet means some kind of PED
@SuperVash01 what PED? cocaine or xylocaine ahhh urine of marquez? no no no it cannot help injecting xylocaine positive.... his father cought with cocaine positive he he what PED? a comic story PED? STEROID ohhhh... STEROID from the jungle of the 3rd world ignorant world cannot detect..... WHAT PED?
@TheSaiZone first of all you don't need to explained to me what is the boxing rules.i know it very well,im a boxer and i know what are you trying to say,second how can you hit me by touching(Pressing) your keyboard LOL.......
i think we are out of what we are arguing for.since you are favor for floyd and im for pacman,why we make a deal if the fight happen?
@SuperVash01 You're completely misinterpreting the conversation. I'm not here for jokes, so i'm sorry but I can't share your "LOL" moment. You know very well what I mean with my analogy about "hitting you'. If it makes you feel better, we can say "manny hitting floyd or vise versa."
Moving on. So u're a boxer? You may know boxing rules, but the basis of your points reveal you don't know the most effective approach to boxing because you favor exchange punches. How's your boxing career?
@thesaizone this is the best review of he figth... thanks! please do comment on how JMM steps on MP foot .. i'd like to hear your opinion on that ...thanks! more power to you!
Pacquiao was a victim of expectations, and his failure to knock Marquez out was what created the perception of his defeat. Some notable experts also rushed to the defense of Pacquiao, including trainer Emanuel Steward, who said Marquez did not do enough to steal the crown..just saw their faces after d fight, a lil sratch & a headbut on mannys face while marquez face looks like a crippled but..WHY??maybe somebody hit him hard...lol
Hmm....it does appear that Maywather will win....but don't count PAC out...Although Maquez was ducking when Pac launches in he still got hit alot with the straight left....Look at Maquez's face....and from the pass Maywather fight...MW had trouble with the launching straight left. Look at the MW vs Zab fight...MW was getting hit by the straight left all day not to mention the constant pressure.
You don't know shit salzone. Learn the sport. Compubox is not accurate theres no way paccquiao outlanded marquez in that fight. Watched it 5 times it was clearly rigged.
@Apricotsinner32 Thanks for commenting bro. I'm going to sidestep that foolish opening and focus on the meat of your comment. I've watched the fight several more times after making this video as well bro, and I noticed some Compubox errors as well. I was so pissed off about it that I'm making a video about it now. What a coincidence you mosted about Compubox errors. Good post my friend. Stay tuned for the upcoming video about the compubox errors.
really?? then what does that face of marquez all swollen? when pacquiao was not?? you've never seen Pac landed a power punch?? then what causes that face of marquez all swollen??? ahhh if there's no power punch landed then it must be VOLUME of punches landed.. pac doesnt have a swollen face.. does that mean he was hit several times? with what? a slap?? lol..
BRO, i thought Pacquiao won.. and you observed the fight well.. even all the moves they did in the fight.. Pacquiao was all successful in landing his LEFT LEAD PUNCH and very few of his STRAIGHT LEFT were landed.. what amazed me the most was his RIGHT HOOK, it connect convincingly.. Pacquiao should learn how to hit with UPPERCUTS and RIGHT LEAD instead of measuring jabs.. Pac punches were too fast but you'll see theres lack of power coz Marquez was backpedalling thus to minimize the impact..
lets make Mayweather-Pacquiao happen this May.. though Mayweather is too technical, there's a chance that Pacquiao might hit him with a powerful LUCKY punch.. I admire Mayweather honestly, but saying too much to discredit the man of what he actually deserve was all wrong. Boxing greats are not just for olympians and especially not for Americans only.. Pacquiao is a kind and good guy, even in his native language, you'll never here he cursed anyone or complain that he was robbed like in Pac-Marq I
In 2013, there'll be election all over the Philippines and Pacquiao will certainly run for Governor. If he wins (HE WILL) the election, goodbye boxing for Pacquiao. As a governor, he should stay all the time in the office, not like in congress he's allowed to leave. So, if we will calculate it, two fights more left for him in 2012 and then by January 2013 all he is going to do is to prepare for election campaign. May 2013 is the election. So lets not waste time, lets make Pac-Mayweather happen.
First off It is common sense that manny is all hype and it is obvious that he never and I mean never had the ability to beat floyd. Marquez BEAT manny the whole night. Manny was more cautious in this fight then ever in the history of his entire career. Even if you where to say that manny is the aggressor you would also have to see that marquez is a counter puncher. It is not fair to give the fight and I do mean give the fight to someone because they were more agressive.
Pacquiao did win the fight, because marquez didn't do shit but counterpunch all night long.... But this fight does show that Pacquiao is not on Floyd's level at all... Pacquiao will get outboxed and shown up against Floyd... To be honest, i don't even wanna see that fight, PERIOD. .. Pacquiao is nothing but a media creation and sensation, nothing more.
I didn't see Pac being all that aggressive. In fact even he admitted after the fight that he elected to be more cautious than ever due to JMM's counterpunching skills. And why should "being the busier fighter" guarantee you a win?? If you're stumbling and missing shots then you're NOT applying effective aggression! JMM displayed beautiful defense tactics and it's a shame that many people don't give him credit for it
@tapatioooo how on the eareth did marquez won did you see his face anf pacman;s face? who's the better fighter with that kind of face after the fight? marquez and all marquez's fans are sore loser!!!!
FACT #1: People are use to seeing opponents being KILLED whenever its a Pacquiao fight. THAT IS EXPECTED! CASE CLOSED! So when the fight DID NOT go as expected, not to mention a close fight, its but natural for "US" to favor the underdog. It is called "human nature".
FACT #2: Going in this fight, Pacquiao is the CHAMPION. As a CHALLENGER it is JMM job to take the belt from him CONVINCINGLY. That CLEARLY WAS NOT THE CASE AS THE WHOLE WORLD AGREES THAT IT IS A CLOSE FIGHT. WINNER PACQUIAO!
@avillanuv Floyd will only be a sucker puncher IF YOU HEADBUTT HIM ON PURPOSED THROUGHT THE FIGHT. IF YOU DONT DO THAT, u have nothing to worry about. Nice try buddy. Besides Protect yourself at all times, thats the rule in boxing.
pacquiao was playing safe & how the fck can yall say marquez beat him when cant even knock his ass down .. dumbasses ! pacquiao wont loss unless he gets knocked out ..
They're not gona fight floyd roach said in the post fight conference he was asked if he would go after floyd or fight marquez again and he said he felt marquez deserved another fight lollll
The truth is... Marquez owned Pacquiao and because of his popularity and biased judges he won. The people at the fight and the TV hosts here in mexico were shocked when they gave the fight to pacquiao, Marquez has owned Pacquiao 2 times and 1 time it was a draw, Boxing nowadays is pure corruptness.
i agree with they decision, i feel pac won by a sliver, pulled it out by a hair. people who think marquez won i dont have an issue with because it was THAT close. i dont by any means feel that jmm dominated pac and won extremely convincingly, but if people feel jmm won slightly then i can understand.
im a big pac fan but i am dissapointed in how he fought, he wasnt manny being manny almost. he didnt throw his punches in bunches didnt feel right
well what i think it doesnt matter , cuz you said maywheather is gonna beat pacquaio because maywheather defeated marquez and marquez dominated pacquaio . well cotto defeated mosley , mosley defeated margarito , and margarito defeated cotto . so that why i think it doesnt matter
I didnt agree with the decision I thought Marquez was landing by far the cleaner more effective shots throughout the fight.
As for a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight I see a similar fight, Mayweather countering all fight, landing the better shots and pitching a shut out.
However, after seeing how last nights fight turned out, Pacquiao will probably win by decision based on "effective aggresion" and throwing more punches (i guess it doesnt matter whether they land or not?!?)
@TheSaiZone bring chicken weather on man he"s been ducking manny anyway, chicken weather will never fight sergio martinez he only takes fights that he knows he can win
I would consider Cotto to be a "truly prolific boxer" who Manny had fought without much weight drainage. So Marquez was not the only one you cite.
rsuriyop 1 month ago
look at marquez face, do you think he won that fight??? marquez face is like a hamburger. therefore pac had more power punches than marquez. still pac is dangerous fighter thats why flyod doesn't want to fight pac.
joeljojo143 1 month ago
we will never know what will happen.. like i said styles make fights... i just want them to fight.. how come marquez fought pac without any question... why floyd cant? if pac was on roids? how come it was a close fight with marquez? hope you understand my point bro.. and marquez was steeping on pacs foot the whole time... hehe :) by the way you have a good review.. we all are boxing fans... its just so wrong to accuse someone with drugs.. and the person we are talking too is a very good man...
lindaruthuy 1 month ago
marquez fought floyd going forward... marquez fought pac going backwards... :)simple... im not hating bro... but marquez took chances than floyd... at least marquez opens up... floyd puts his gloves in his body and face when someone is punching.. see? marquez and floyd is dfrnt... we will never know what will happen.. like i said styles make fights... i just want them to fight.. how come marquez fought pac without any question... why floyd cant?
lindaruthuy 1 month ago
only thing i dont agree with is this... if you win 1 round landing 30 punches and i win the next with 25, it's stil an even fight, just saying punches landed isnt quite as definitive as you make it seem in the begining of your vid, especially when we remember that marquez outlanded pac in the first 2 fights and most people (non-fans) thought marquez took atleast one of those fights
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Dude, Manny didn't land any clean hard shots. Fights are scored on compubox. Marquez was controlling the fight. You don't steal the round by flailing around and lunging in off balance. Marquez hit him with the cleaner harder punches. I think Marquez won the fight comfortably. Manny got frustrated. If Manny wasn't Manny you'd have said Marquez won the fight.
brendos444 2 months ago
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"Manny didn't land any clean hard shots"
Did you look at marquez face after the fight? He face was mess up and full of bruise than the 2nd fight. Manny's face don't have any bruise and wasn't messed up, just a cut. If you look in their first fight, marquez landed more hard shot resulting for pacquiao bruise face. Even in clottey fight, pacquiao face were bruise up. I had marquez winning it 115-113 but to say pac didn't land a clean shot prove you're a joke and bias.
vitalcoordinates 2 months ago
@vitalcoordinates Dude i was supporting manny in the fight! Everyone knows that in boxing your face can puff up from grazing shots, from the opponent thumbing ur eye, if you have high cheek bones like Marquez you can puff up easily... faces don't mean nothing. look at the fight. did Pacquiao hurt marquez or snap his head back with any punches. At most his punches were grazing, partially blocked by Marquez. He never found a way to overcome Marquez' defense and style.
brendos444 2 months ago
@brendos444 Did you read my whole post? Puff up easy? LOL Marquez face wasn't puff up in their 2nd fight so it doesn't have to do with the cheekbone stuff. Compare Marquez Face in the 1st 2nd and 3rd.
vitalcoordinates 2 months ago
@vitalcoordinates lol it's been about 3 or 4 years since they last fought (prolly cos Arum was dodging JMM for the rematch). JMM has been in several wars since then. More scare tissue, easier to puff up. It doesn't mean nothing!!! His face wasn't that badly damaged. What's clear if you actually watched the fight is that JMM was outboxing manny. He might have got caught with some grazing punches but very few of them landed flush. Most of the clean punches were landed by JMM.
brendos444 2 months ago
@brendos444 Haha bias, no you're not a boxing fans the moment you said the word "Dodging" LOL. The reason JMM vs Pac 3 didn't happen earlier is because they have in different promotion and the dispute of it (GBP and TOP rank) same reason Pac Vs Barrera II didn't happen earlier than expected. "Most of the clean punches were landed by JMM" And yet Pacquiao Face was cleaner than the first 2 fight where marquez clearly landed clean punches.
vitalcoordinates 2 months ago
@vitalc lol manny's team dodged jmm. just like manny's team have been dodging floyd mayweather. Arum doesn't want his cash cow getting beaten. You're the one who's not the boxing fan. Everyone concedes that JMM landed the better shots in the fight. and again, most of manny's punches were grazing, partially blocked etc. This can cause the minor damage JMM got. also headbuts can cause the sort of damage caused by Marquez. You can't show ANY clean punches from Manny that fight!!!
brendos444 2 months ago
@brendos444 Wow a flomo haha LOL. No it was marquez who was ducking pac for 4 years. Team Pac offered JMM a $700k Guaranties for immediate rematch and yet JMM avoid pac and fight Chris John for a peanut and lost Lmao. Wrong, it was mayqeather who was ducking him, asking for $100m, OSDT, Higer purse split, Floyd Sr: "I feared for my sons life if he fight pacquiao w.o OSDT" LOL .. Wrong again, here's a vid LOL. watch?v=BYC2qTYfSHs&feature=related
vitalcoordinates 2 months ago
@vitalcoordinates No no, we all know that the reason the fight hasn't happened with floyd is cos of Arum. Its the same reason arum never put Cotto in there with Floyd. As for JMM, Manny and his team opted to fight Diaz instead of giving JMM a rematch cos they knew he was the real winner of the second fight. They waited for him to get old and make him move up. btw I'm a pac supporter. Even visited Gen San from Australia to see his house and where he grew up. But I'm not biased
brendos444 2 months ago
@brendos444 I'm a boxing supporter long before pacquiao was on the scene. But as a boxing supporter i know that guys who very good skills will always trouble pacquiao. imo guys like floyd, JMM will always beat pac. And if a guy like bernard hopkins was in the same weight class, he'd beat pac too. Same with a guy like Andre Ward. Pacquiao won't beat these type of fighters. That's just the truth.
brendos444 2 months ago
@brendos444 No no, we all know that the reason the fight hasn't happened with floyd is because of floyd ego and he's afraid to fight PAC unless he submitted to OSDT and give floyd higher split and 100m guarant. JMM: "We want a rematch" LOL why i though you won? Only looser want a rematch like pac in the first morales fight, And pac already offered him ater the first fight and it took 4 years for JMM to find his balls. I'm a boxing fans, i watched fraizer vs Ali live here in araneta.
vitalcoordinates 2 months ago
@vitalcoordinates after seeing JMM vs Pac in November, there's no one who'd be scared of pac. of course they dodged JMM. They dodged him after the first fight. They dodged him after the second fight and after the third fight it was Arum talking about the rematch not JMM!!! they knew floyd smashed JMM and JMM just made manny look like an amateur. JMM knew he won and said that he was going to retire cos the judges seem paid off by Arum! Floyd will take manny to school. Easy win!
brendos444 2 months ago
@brendos444 Like i said it was marquez who was ducking pac for 4 years. Team Pac offered JMM a $700k Guaranties for immediate rematch and yet JMM avoid pac and fight Chris John for a peanut and lost. The article are all over the place search it. It's facts.
vitalcoordinates 2 months ago
@vitalcoordinates JMM wasn't the one who wants the rematch!!! It is Roach and Arum cos they knew JMM just made Manny look bad and people will be less interested in the Floyd fight cos floyd beat JMM easy. I mean JMM didn't even win a single round against Floyd and pac has trouble even hitting him!!! C'mon you're biased. I'm not black or filo. I'm a fight fan from Oz. You are kidding yourself if u think Pac is even on the same level as floyd.
brendos444 2 months ago
@brendos444 there are three punches floyd will beat manny with. the left jab, lead left hook and straight right. Meanwhile manny won't get near floyd cos of his defense. Manny's gotta hope that he can somehow land a big punch on floyd otherwise ur looking at a wide UD for floyd or possibly a late stoppage after manny taking too many punches. the longer the fight goes, the better mayweather will be in that fight. Manny just cannot adjust his style in fights. He'll get schooled.
brendos444 2 months ago
@brendos444 And deep down Roach knows this, Arum knows this, and Filo boxing fans know this. Manny's only got a punchers chance. That's all. If he can pull off a big punch then he might be able to win. But you're not gonna get Mayweather outta there with just one punch. Floyd will adjust and prolly come back and take over the fight. He wants the fight on May 5. Arum is stalling simple as that. Roach knows it too. He knows that he can't teach manny anything that will trouble floyd.
brendos444 2 months ago
@brendos444 If that's so then this is bullshit fight and i wont give floyd credit for fighting pac because he's a midget with no skill and a bum and is a left over of his leftover LOL but hey i'm not flomo bias like you, i'm a boxing fan and i think it would be entertaining and competitive and there's a reason why all of boxing fans want this fight.
vitalcoordinates 2 months ago
@vitalcoordinates i'm no flomo, but i know floyd is gonna win this. you know wat, if floyd wins this easy, which many experts agree is a good chance of happening, then perhaps we will see that manny is a lil overhyped and extremely limited against skilfull fighters. Wat will u say if floyd wins easy? A lot of ppl expect this to happen. But of course Manny is a gr8 fighter, its just that floyd is prolly top 2 all tym. And it will be no shame to Manny for losing against floyd.
brendos444 2 months ago
@brendos444 As a fite fan I've seen this many times. A strong explosive fighter come up against a skilfull technician. The skilfull fighter always wins. Think of Trinidad v Hopkins. Every1 thought Trinidad will win easy. He was knocking every1 out. but bhop schooled him and ko'd him in R12. Think of Tua v Lewis. Tua was the most feared HW, but Lewis schooled him. I luv Trinidad and Tua, just like I luv watching Pac. But Ive seen this b4. The skilfull guys always wins.
brendos444 2 months ago
@vitalcoordinates You're one stupid pactard. Everyone knows Bob Arum doesn't want Pac to fight Floyd and is holding him back because he knows that the way Floyd fights, Pac can't win. Its chess, not checkers and Floyd is a genius when it comes to boxing while Pac will always try to brawl with his limited footwork and leave many openings to counter-punches.
TEHWEEZY 1 month ago
@TEHWEEZY LOL You're the one stupid flomo. Everyone knows floyd doesn't want to fight pacquiao unless pac submitted to OSDT because all of the cracked head mayweather family doesn't believe fraud i mean floyd can beat pacquiao with just urine test. Jail is just another way to duck pac floyd rather want to go to jail than face pac. FLOYD SR: "I fear for my son's life if he fight pac without OSDT". And they call themselves a "G"? LOL
vitalcoordinates 1 month ago
@brendos444 I know Floyd got advantage over manny in skill department that's why i don't understand his ego why he's so afraid to fight Pac without OSDT. And why the fuck Floyd sr said "I fear for my son's life if pac wont take OSDT". I'm pretty sure floyd know boxing more than you so pls explain
vitalcoordinates 2 months ago
@vitalcoordinates if pac wants to fite him take the OSDT and just get it on. I used to think floyd was stalling the fight, but not anymore. Luk at the guys manny has fought recently, all of them are Arum fighters. wat did Clottey do to deserve a fite with Manny? What did Margarito do to deserve a fite? Same with Cotto. Arum is just making sure all the money is his. It's just like he never put Cotto and Margarito in with Floyd. He's wants it all.
brendos444 2 months ago
@brendos444 Dumb ass did you read my post? I said JMM wins in my card. How can i be biased LOL. They know they lost that fight that's why they ask the rematch same as JMM ask for a rematch in the 2nd fight because JMM know he lost the fight lol. You're not a fight fan you're a flomo and bias. "You are kidding yourself if u think Pac is even on the same level as floyd." Apparently floyd don't think like you, there's a reason why he ask for OSDT " I smell fear LOL.
vitalcoordinates 2 months ago
@vitalcoordinates I don't think Manny is scared of floyd... I think his team are ducking floyd cos they know what will happen. I think the fight will happen cos Arum realises that he's maximized the earnings from pac and if he doesn't take the fight with floyd now, the earnings from the fight can only decrease. What floyd snr says is diff from wat floyd says and thinks. They dont even like each other. Floyd has faced more dangerous fighters, ODLH @ 154, Corrales, Castillo
brendos444 2 months ago
@vitalcoordinates of course if you officially lose the fight on the judges cards but feel that u won the fight, u will want a rematch to correct the record. Manny's team wanted the rematch after the 3rd fite becos they knew the value of the floyd fite went down cos floyd beat up JMM easy. They needed a big win to create hype for the fite with floyd. JMM is 38 now. He's fought manny 3 times and shud have won twice. First fite manny wins on my card cos of R1.
brendos444 2 months ago
What's up bro, after watching 3 times I still have Marquez win this fight. 1st time I watched it I had Marquez 115-113, 2nd time 116-112 & 3rd time 118-110... Marquez landed all the clean body shots, clean head shots. Had Pacquiao's head snapping all over the place...
joseminano 2 months ago
Mannies so called ''god'' Punished him for making this fight with the soul purpose of beating up an old man for his own pleasure.
TheGreatJuicebox 2 months ago in playlist More videos from TheSaiZone
So you're saying De La Hoya should of beat floyd since he threw more punches based on compubox numbers? So sometimes these numbers count, sometimes they don't right? If fights should be based on who lands more punches so why not remove the judges and just use compubox stats? You really don't have a clue of how boxing is scored bro. Go cotton pick.
lektronk 2 months ago 2
I think the compubox was inflated... just saying.
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Dude youre fuckin Awesome.. keep doing reviews
tiburcio9999 2 months ago
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pacman is a victim of expectation, his failure to knock marquez out gives d perception of his defeat,but d truth is he landed more shots than marquez & d judges got d better angle to see that,. i agree w/ wt emanuel steward said that marquez did not do enough to steal d crown..& wow somebody hit JMM hard that made his face looks like a crippled butt & gave him a gift to look like chinese in that day..lol
kayitangan 2 months ago
Glad your back man. Its been a while...I have to say Marquez is a great boxer. He showed it once again and was robbed in my opinion. It was very close but Marquez should of got the W. I agree with you that Mayweather is a great technical boxer as is Marquez they both are, and they both have in my opinion the same tools. Now if Marquez was as big as Mayweather and weighed in as much as Mayweather did in that fight it may have been not so one sided. Marquez was the smaller dude and out of his
DavinMavriks 2 months ago
element. None the less he's game either way. To answer the question I don't think Pac has a chance against Mayweather, he's gonna out box him as did Marquez and stick to his game plan. It should be an ass whoopin to say the least. That being said when are you gonna bust out the B.O.M.B man. whats the hold up?
DavinMavriks 2 months ago
what fight were you watching
jiggyjoecars 3 months ago
Good point bruh!!!!
LalakingDarna 3 months ago
correct me if im wrong.... if fight happen between floyd and manny floyd will beat manny on the presscon , floyd has better and have that automatic mouth compare to pac and floyd will attempt to move closer so his nose will touch manny's nose manny can't do that....
genericsfarm1127 3 months ago
I think Marquez is way too different to Floyd cause Floyd doesn't take chances when he box while Marquez do take chances while countering. That will spell the big difference and that will have Pac a great chance to have a win.
ramgol 3 months ago
@ramgol a totally agree ma man Marquez counters with combos
where as Mayweather just comes with 1 and 2s i rarely see floyd
throw combos or be aggressive don't get me wrong he's great at
what he does though
Allyfucksake 2 months ago
its the volume of the punch .. you cannot dodge all off the punches all night .. and that's what Manny Pacquiao had or have !!
kimberlybataller 3 months ago
my question to you TheSaiZone what do you think mayweather chances are of fighting an elite fighter such as Manny "Pacman" Pacquiao?
SuperVash01 3 months ago
@SuperVash01 Thx for commenting SuperVash01. The true question is "when will Manny fight an Ultra Elite fighter in Floyd?" Why? Because Manny is elite, Marquez is Elite. Floyd is Ultra Elite. The decision to fight rests on Manny. Floyd wanted to fight him in February or 5/5/12, but Top Rank boxing officially announced on Nov 14th they are pursuing a 4th bout with Marquez. The ball is in Juan's court now and according to Nacho, they're demanding $25mil, & the location of mexico city, mexico.
TheSaiZone 3 months ago
@TheSaiZone is margarito,cotto,mosley,and other big guys that pacman fought before is not an elite fighter?
non of this guy except mosley and give mayweather a hrdtime to beat him.y did maywether not fight with margarito,clottey,and cotto?why mayweather took round 9 to ko hatton?y mayweather simply kick marques ass while pacman having a hardtime with marques?
why maywether dont want to sign the contract rather talk shit to pacman.
we will not see the answer until they step togetherin the ring.
SuperVash01 3 months ago
@SuperVash01 (PART 1) I never said Margarito, Cotto, Clotty and other big guys Manny fought were not elite fighters. I never said they were either because Mosley, Margartio, Cotto and Clottey aren't elite fighters. Manny is an elite fighter over these fighters which makes these fighter "great" fighters.
How long it takes to and how a boxer defeats another boxer is not a complete measurement of the greatness of a boxer. For example, Foreman annihilated Frazier, but George wasKO'd by Ali. (cont)
TheSaiZone 3 months ago
@SuperVash01 (part 2) Frazier beat Ali, but was KO'd by Foremen. So how can we determine when a boxer is elite or ultra elite? All we can judge them by is their performance against top level TECHNICAL BOXERS.The only common denominator between Manny & Floyd is Juan. Manny had 3 bouts with Juan, all were 50/50. Floyd toy'd w/ him for 12rds after a 2yr layoff, holding him to 12%.
Who has the 1 style to dominate against every other style, Floyd. That's how we determine Ultra Elite. (cont)
TheSaiZone 3 months ago
@SuperVash01 (part 3) To ask "y don't mayweather sign the contract...?" is possibly your way of ignoring the fact that there are other factors involved. As much as you or any1 else may way to downplay the testing issue, the fact remains that Manny is the hold up. To this day, he has not agreed to 7-day cut off terms. Arum, Roach, Ariza continue to make public statements refusing USADA testing, while manny strategically says "yes, I'll take tests." It's the good cop/bad cop routine (cont)...
TheSaiZone 3 months ago
@SuperVash01 Which brings us to where we are today; a place where casual fans are confused thinking "manny said yes!"- yet they don't realize Arum, Roach, Ariza, and Koncz are all countering Manny's own statements by saying "We're not doing any testing outside of boxing's testing." This is what you call public relations. Let manny be seen saying "I'll test", but we'll (arum and others) will for damn sure refuse testing.
TheSaiZone 3 months ago
@TheSaiZone who started this steroid issue?its mayweather camp right?and who is the superb elite fighter does floyd fought?like i type a while ago we will find the answer until we will see them step in to the ring and exchanging blows.even mayweather have physical advantage for me i see pacman will late stoppage win ether unanimous decision.
SuperVash01 3 months ago
@SuperVash01 (part 1) 1st of all, Floyd never said "Manny is on steroids." Floyd simply said "his rise in strength, weight and power are suspicious to me, I want testing to ensure we're on a level playing field." Now to answer ur question, it's not about who started what, the bottom line is Manny has 100% power to finish it, just like Ortiz and Mosley who stepped up & tested, nuff said, fight was signed and on. (cont)
TheSaiZone 3 months ago
@SuperVash01 (part 2) Your statement of "like i type a while ago we will find the answer until we will see them step in to the ring and exchanging blows" further sheds light on your boxing IQ- which is unfortunately sub par. Boxing is not about "exchanging blows." Boxing is about hitting while limiting the amount of times your opponent hits you, and if a KO comes, that's icing on the cake. Emotionally, we love to see boxers exchange but strategically it's a waste. (cont)
TheSaiZone 3 months ago
@SuperVash01 (part 3) boxing is no different from war. The main objective of war is to limit causalities. Attack your enemy by employing a strategy that minimizes risk of causalities (hits). This is the mind set of ultra elite boxing. Keep moving, create and exploit openings, hit and get out then reset, defend against all types of punches and strike within the small windows that present themselves while you're under attack, clinch to minimize ur opponents chances of engaging you cleanly.
TheSaiZone 3 months ago
@TheSaiZone exchanging blows....hmmm you are american right?English is your first language right?you know what im trying to say.boxing is punching each other,so bring what floyd has and pacman will taking care for what floyd will bring him.i dont care if floyd is a defensive master pacman can handle that.best defense is offence.
SuperVash01 3 months ago
@SuperVash01 (part 1) You have the wrong concept of boxing. Boxing is a science. Test it out for yourself. Hit me, then let me hit you. After you wake up from me knocking out, the first thing i'm going to say to you "You shouldn't have gotten hit!" lol Of course I can hit you when you hit me, i.e. exchanging punches, but the most effective way is to hit you without letting you gain a point back. End result is i've hit you, you didn't hit me. The refs see it and so does compubox. (cont)
TheSaiZone 3 months ago
@SuperVash01 (part 2) It all comes to light when the judges score a fight. They look at who landed the cleaner more effective punches and one way to help the judges see your in control of the fight is by hitting your opponent and getting out of there before they can even lay a hand on you. At the end of the round the judges are thinking "damn, he's hitting him at will and the other guy can't land anything at all. Clearly this guys is in control of the fight." Common sense.
TheSaiZone 3 months ago 2
(Part 4) then to finish it all off, Manny comes out and says "The decision to whom I'll fight is my on my manager, Bob Arum." So let's cut to the chase and ask the real question "What's the purpose of Manny even saying he's willing to test if Arum, Roach, Ariz, and Koncz is going to shut it all down anyway and Manny then going to relent and say "I follow their lead".... what's the purpose Manny?" Public Relations perception games.
TheSaiZone 3 months ago
@SuperVash01 @TheSaiZone @SuperVash01 @TheSaiZone come on men..why mayweather ask him self?floyd is a 6 times world champion also.and he carry hes power, strength,speed!he just afraid of fighting pacquiao.and steriod Issue?he accuse manny taking some power pellet means some kind of PED
SuperVash01 3 months ago
@SuperVash01 what PED? cocaine or xylocaine ahhh urine of marquez? no no no it cannot help injecting xylocaine positive.... his father cought with cocaine positive he he what PED? a comic story PED? STEROID ohhhh... STEROID from the jungle of the 3rd world ignorant world cannot detect..... WHAT PED?
genericsfarm1127 3 months ago
@TheSaiZone check this out.10:44 up.now you tell me if im wrong
SuperVash01 3 months ago
@TheSaiZone first of all you don't need to explained to me what is the boxing rules.i know it very well,im a boxer and i know what are you trying to say,second how can you hit me by touching(Pressing) your keyboard LOL.......
i think we are out of what we are arguing for.since you are favor for floyd and im for pacman,why we make a deal if the fight happen?
SuperVash01 3 months ago
@SuperVash01 You're completely misinterpreting the conversation. I'm not here for jokes, so i'm sorry but I can't share your "LOL" moment. You know very well what I mean with my analogy about "hitting you'. If it makes you feel better, we can say "manny hitting floyd or vise versa."
Moving on. So u're a boxer? You may know boxing rules, but the basis of your points reveal you don't know the most effective approach to boxing because you favor exchange punches. How's your boxing career?
TheSaiZone 3 months ago
Pacman win!
SuperVash01 3 months ago
@thesaizone this is the best review of he figth... thanks! please do comment on how JMM steps on MP foot .. i'd like to hear your opinion on that ...thanks! more power to you!
astegMZFY 3 months ago
7:29 LOL... real talk.
shawoody 3 months ago
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Pacquiao was a victim of expectations, and his failure to knock Marquez out was what created the perception of his defeat. Some notable experts also rushed to the defense of Pacquiao, including trainer Emanuel Steward, who said Marquez did not do enough to steal the crown..just saw their faces after d fight, a lil sratch & a headbut on mannys face while marquez face looks like a crippled but..WHY??maybe somebody hit him hard...lol
kayitangan 3 months ago
nigga are so fucking ugly.. look... hahaha
dEnw0h 3 months ago
@dEnw0h uglier than Filipinos??? ahhahaha..no way
tiburcio9999 4 weeks ago
Hmm....it does appear that Maywather will win....but don't count PAC out...Although Maquez was ducking when Pac launches in he still got hit alot with the straight left....Look at Maquez's face....and from the pass Maywather fight...MW had trouble with the launching straight left. Look at the MW vs Zab fight...MW was getting hit by the straight left all day not to mention the constant pressure.
TommyCasey212 3 months ago
what song is in the beginning?
manilamerc 3 months ago
Thanks everyone for all of your comments, keep 'em coming!
TheSaiZone 3 months ago
You don't know shit salzone. Learn the sport. Compubox is not accurate theres no way paccquiao outlanded marquez in that fight. Watched it 5 times it was clearly rigged.
Apricotsinner32 3 months ago
@Apricotsinner32 Thanks for commenting bro. I'm going to sidestep that foolish opening and focus on the meat of your comment. I've watched the fight several more times after making this video as well bro, and I noticed some Compubox errors as well. I was so pissed off about it that I'm making a video about it now. What a coincidence you mosted about Compubox errors. Good post my friend. Stay tuned for the upcoming video about the compubox errors.
TheSaiZone 3 months ago
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@TheSaiZone my question to you TheSaiZone what do you think mayweather chances are of fighting an elite fighter such as Manny "Pacman" Pacquiao?
SuperVash01 3 months ago
@Apricotsinner32
really?? then what does that face of marquez all swollen? when pacquiao was not?? you've never seen Pac landed a power punch?? then what causes that face of marquez all swollen??? ahhh if there's no power punch landed then it must be VOLUME of punches landed.. pac doesnt have a swollen face.. does that mean he was hit several times? with what? a slap?? lol..
vidz022 3 months ago
WATCH IT IN SLOMO AND NOT JUST IN REPLAY.. YOU'LL SEE PACQUIAO LANDED MORE CLEAN.. IT MAY NOT BE A LOT OF IMPACT BUT IT HIT VERY CLEAN..
vidz022 3 months ago
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vidz022 3 months ago
BRO, i thought Pacquiao won.. and you observed the fight well.. even all the moves they did in the fight.. Pacquiao was all successful in landing his LEFT LEAD PUNCH and very few of his STRAIGHT LEFT were landed.. what amazed me the most was his RIGHT HOOK, it connect convincingly.. Pacquiao should learn how to hit with UPPERCUTS and RIGHT LEAD instead of measuring jabs.. Pac punches were too fast but you'll see theres lack of power coz Marquez was backpedalling thus to minimize the impact..
vidz022 3 months ago
lets make Mayweather-Pacquiao happen this May.. though Mayweather is too technical, there's a chance that Pacquiao might hit him with a powerful LUCKY punch.. I admire Mayweather honestly, but saying too much to discredit the man of what he actually deserve was all wrong. Boxing greats are not just for olympians and especially not for Americans only.. Pacquiao is a kind and good guy, even in his native language, you'll never here he cursed anyone or complain that he was robbed like in Pac-Marq I
vidz022 3 months ago
In 2013, there'll be election all over the Philippines and Pacquiao will certainly run for Governor. If he wins (HE WILL) the election, goodbye boxing for Pacquiao. As a governor, he should stay all the time in the office, not like in congress he's allowed to leave. So, if we will calculate it, two fights more left for him in 2012 and then by January 2013 all he is going to do is to prepare for election campaign. May 2013 is the election. So lets not waste time, lets make Pac-Mayweather happen.
vidz022 3 months ago
@Apricotsinner32 come on!just look at there face after the fight,who got more damage in there face?
SuperVash01 3 months ago
First off It is common sense that manny is all hype and it is obvious that he never and I mean never had the ability to beat floyd. Marquez BEAT manny the whole night. Manny was more cautious in this fight then ever in the history of his entire career. Even if you where to say that manny is the aggressor you would also have to see that marquez is a counter puncher. It is not fair to give the fight and I do mean give the fight to someone because they were more agressive.
cthougthz 3 months ago
Pacquiao did win the fight, because marquez didn't do shit but counterpunch all night long.... But this fight does show that Pacquiao is not on Floyd's level at all... Pacquiao will get outboxed and shown up against Floyd... To be honest, i don't even wanna see that fight, PERIOD. .. Pacquiao is nothing but a media creation and sensation, nothing more.
kingofpendragon 3 months ago
I didn't see Pac being all that aggressive. In fact even he admitted after the fight that he elected to be more cautious than ever due to JMM's counterpunching skills. And why should "being the busier fighter" guarantee you a win?? If you're stumbling and missing shots then you're NOT applying effective aggression! JMM displayed beautiful defense tactics and it's a shame that many people don't give him credit for it
blindthief 3 months ago
Pacman won!! stop crying marquez fans :D
whothefkamiwatching 3 months ago
MARQUEZ WON
tapatioooo 3 months ago
@tapatioooo how on the eareth did marquez won did you see his face anf pacman;s face? who's the better fighter with that kind of face after the fight? marquez and all marquez's fans are sore loser!!!!
AlvinNepo73 3 months ago
He also stepped on Pacmans feet!
TheStallion1984 3 months ago
Dude I love your your passion!
TheStallion1984 3 months ago
i agree bro pacquiao win
yuancg 3 months ago
good video
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BEFORE YOU MAKE A REVIEW TRY TO WATCH FIGHT OVER OVER AGAIN
TRY SEE THE LINK "Marquez Cheat by Stepping in Pacquiao Foot"
CHEATING AND THAT IS NOT SPORTS... PACQUIAO STILL A TRUE WINNER
BY FAIR AND SQUARE FIGHT!! WHY SOME MEXICAN BOXER ARE CHEATERS!?!!! GOOD FOR MARQUEZ HE LOST, GREAT JOB JUDGES U
HAVE BETTER EYES THAN PEOPLE PRETENDING THEY KNOW BOXING
HAHAHA!! PACMAN IS STILL THE BEST!!
superpeachasters 3 months ago
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This fight wasn’t even close. This is the 4th time I watched the fight and Marquez won clearly.
Marquez won rounds 1,2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12
Manny won rounds 3, 10
I challenge anyone to show me 10 clear shots pacquiao landed the entire fight that snapped Marquez head back or were effective.
JuanMiguel204 3 months ago
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FACT #1: People are use to seeing opponents being KILLED whenever its a Pacquiao fight. THAT IS EXPECTED! CASE CLOSED! So when the fight DID NOT go as expected, not to mention a close fight, its but natural for "US" to favor the underdog. It is called "human nature".
FACT #2: Going in this fight, Pacquiao is the CHAMPION. As a CHALLENGER it is JMM job to take the belt from him CONVINCINGLY. That CLEARLY WAS NOT THE CASE AS THE WHOLE WORLD AGREES THAT IT IS A CLOSE FIGHT. WINNER PACQUIAO!
kupski1 3 months ago
Its hard to compare styles of Mayweather and Pacquiao.
Mayweather is a sucker puncher, so all Pacquaio would have to do is keep his guard up and fight fair and he will win.
You can't deny my logic!
lol:P
avillanuv 3 months ago
@avillanuv Floyd will only be a sucker puncher IF YOU HEADBUTT HIM ON PURPOSED THROUGHT THE FIGHT. IF YOU DONT DO THAT, u have nothing to worry about. Nice try buddy. Besides Protect yourself at all times, thats the rule in boxing.
touchtone101 3 months ago
pacquiao was playing safe & how the fck can yall say marquez beat him when cant even knock his ass down .. dumbasses ! pacquiao wont loss unless he gets knocked out ..
brylleangelo24 3 months ago
You smokin crack!
calstate 3 months ago
wtf all these idiots saying that are someone fan and saying that they cant beat by someone...fucking fake ass bullshit lol
qbthething 3 months ago
no way MARQUEZ WON I DONT KNOW HOW THEY SAID PACMAN LANDED MORE, HE THREW MORE IN THE AIR WHILE MARQUEZ STOPPED HIM EVERYTIME
osavid 3 months ago
They're not gona fight floyd roach said in the post fight conference he was asked if he would go after floyd or fight marquez again and he said he felt marquez deserved another fight lollll
dubydavis 3 months ago
im a filipino and a pacman fan but theres no way manny can beat floyd.
mrBullsheet 3 months ago
you got it 100% very smart analysis and youre right about pacman winning by a very small margin.
mrBullsheet 3 months ago
One of the best reviews on YT regarding this fight. Good stuff.
TheSleepySpaceman 3 months ago 2
The truth is... Marquez owned Pacquiao and because of his popularity and biased judges he won. The people at the fight and the TV hosts here in mexico were shocked when they gave the fight to pacquiao, Marquez has owned Pacquiao 2 times and 1 time it was a draw, Boxing nowadays is pure corruptness.
er1ck194 3 months ago
hey good review man, articulate and insightful
i agree with they decision, i feel pac won by a sliver, pulled it out by a hair. people who think marquez won i dont have an issue with because it was THAT close. i dont by any means feel that jmm dominated pac and won extremely convincingly, but if people feel jmm won slightly then i can understand.
im a big pac fan but i am dissapointed in how he fought, he wasnt manny being manny almost. he didnt throw his punches in bunches didnt feel right
UFCFrance 3 months ago
well what i think it doesnt matter , cuz you said maywheather is gonna beat pacquaio because maywheather defeated marquez and marquez dominated pacquaio . well cotto defeated mosley , mosley defeated margarito , and margarito defeated cotto . so that why i think it doesnt matter
98eltigrillo 3 months ago
I didnt agree with the decision I thought Marquez was landing by far the cleaner more effective shots throughout the fight.
As for a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight I see a similar fight, Mayweather countering all fight, landing the better shots and pitching a shut out.
However, after seeing how last nights fight turned out, Pacquiao will probably win by decision based on "effective aggresion" and throwing more punches (i guess it doesnt matter whether they land or not?!?)
bonds88 3 months ago
Excellent unbiased and intelligent video. Keep up the good work.
Gravitas37 3 months ago
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TheSaiZone 3 months ago
@TheSaiZone bring chicken weather on man he"s been ducking manny anyway, chicken weather will never fight sergio martinez he only takes fights that he knows he can win
pedro016541 3 months ago