Ramon Vargas - Idomeneo (II)

[jradetzky]

whoa

this is intense

he just blew my mind

and that Nettuno dude is really creepy, like it should be, very threatening like the aria says

[tamalesytortas]

eres un maestrazo

[javieritooo1]

mozart,wagner y stravinski no son soberbios????????bach tampoco,ni haendel,no????cuanto zumbao hay suelto por estos lares.....

[jradetzky]

@javieritooo1 demasiado justin bieber es malo para el cerebro

[davidamarat]

Escuchando a Mozart, Wagner y Stravinski me di cuenta de algo: no creo que hayan sido tan soberbios como para componer cosas asi ya que son sinceramente pretenciosas y no pretenciosamente buscadas... chance más parecidos a los altaneros (y sinceros) maestros sufies que a los pretenciosos "poseedores de la verdad" como los sacerdotes católicos y de otras religiones. Saludos desde México.

[anselgoya]

podria ampliar mas su comentario,ya que veo que cae en antonimos y pleonasmos,y no lentiendo realmente su posicion.

[davidamarat]

Acostumbro mucho a jugar con las palabras -mucha paja y poca sustancia, me diria mi asesor de tesis-. Me explicaré: Este comentario lo hice por la idea de chistianerick. Parafraseandolo: "que es la mejor música que cualquier mortal podria hacer". Lo que pienso es que la musica actual no es desdeñable ni mediocre. Y que los considerados como grandes maestros crearon sin pretender nada más: ¡Ah! y creo que deberia leer sobre sufismo. Igual asi nos entendemos.

[anselgoya]

esto tiene mucho sentido en mozart,bach,beethoven o en gente "moderna" como stravinsky,britten o khorngold.

pero en el caso de WAGNER,esto no tiene nada que ver,este hombre seria el orgasmo de todo el arte en su conjunto.

el movimiento de la dodecafonia y la obra y pensamiento de haendel,tambien los pondria en un rumbo parecido al de WAGNER.

[davidamarat]

Comprendo: El llamado "Arte total". Aunque difiero en cuanto a que no tenga nada que ver. En realidad Wagner se adelantó a uno de los conceptos básicos del cubismo: la multiplicidad de perspectivas, de sentidos. Recuerdo cuando vi en DVD "El anillo de los nibelungos", y la verdad quedé pasmado, confortablemente aturdido.

[anselgoya]

le recomiendo la version de pappano o la version de solti.muy sugestivas y muy provocadoras ademas de estar bien interpretadas.

inclusive la version mexicana del festival del centro historico que dirigio sergio vela me fascino.

pero,prohibido estrictamente ver la version de james levine del met de nueva york: BASURA PURA.

[jradetzky]

@anselgoya cual version de Levine, con Domingo (96) o con Pavarotti (82)? De todos modos, ninguno de los dos puede cantar ni tantita coloratura

[anselgoya]

@jradetzky mi comentario esta relacionado con una produccion del anillo del nibelungo de wagner dirigida por levine.

este comentario fue parte de una discucion.

saludos.

[chistianerick]

solo es la mejor musica que el ser humano en su mortal mente puede imaginar, mozart desde su tumba al escuchar la musica de hoy dira Chillen mediocres!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tamalesytortas]

brindo por ti dondequiera que estes hermano

[Torquemada0]

las versiones de Araiza y Vargas muy superiores a las de Domingo y Pavarotti!!

[rolokun]

Es geniall!!! Un ejemplo a seguir realmente :)

[antoniorafael1968]

Magnífico Ramón en todos los aspectos. Y escucharlo en directo es aún mejor. Os invito a oir la versión de este aria por Araiza (impresionante).

[verdiotello]

Lastima que estreche demasiado los agudos, yo lo escuche en vivo en Boheme en varias ocasiones en el Met y realmente es desepcionante escuchar esos agudos tan estreches :-S

[tamalesytortas]

mejor te callaras amigo

[verdiotello]

Es simplemente la Verdad!!!!!! Eso se nota en su repertorio mas Lirico, estrecha demasiado los agudos y si sabes de esto entenderas lo que comento.Aunque por tu nik veo que no sabes nada de esto, creo que te equivocaste que video comentar.

[tamalesytortas]

en tu nombre quieres ocultar tu ignorancia, se te respeta aunque seas ignorante, si hubiera estrechez en su voz se estrangularía la explosión de aire, creo que lo único que se estrecha es tu juicio

[verdiotello]

No quiero ocultar nada, es simplemente mi punto de vista de algo que he presenciado en vivo y tambien se aprecia en sus grabaciones, ke tu te engranes es otra cosa, ja ja ja ja creo que heri tus sentimientos, te dejo ke te sigas masturbando con vargas.

[tamalesytortas]

tu en vivo solo ves idioteces, no has herido a nadie ni a nada más que a tu presencia, ni siquiera me masturbo pensando en tu horrible madre y esposa que tienes, que tengas un buen día y doy por terminados mis comentarios con tu absurdida presencia

[verdiotello]

Ja ja ja jaj a, el que se ha de masturbar eres tu!!!! y con los discos por lo que veo nunca saldras de vender tamales y tortas j aj aj ja jaj jaj a

[Javiersamano]

el es de mis favoritos

Magnifico

[SonoPortoricano]

This is amazing. Is he a lyric? Where is he from?

Magnificent.

[SonoPortoricano]

Ok, I now know, he is Mexican.

I am truly amazed, this was as good as it could get.

Tremenda interpretación.

[Colora2ra]

Wow, as a dramatic coloratura, I thought we had the most difficult music that Mozart has written, but this aria takes the cake! This shit is HARD! Good work Vargas!

[poundpapi]

He sure knows how to work that coloratura! Bravo, Ramon!

[danbar73]

agnellodei : Exactly which part sounds strained to you ? IDOM's tessitura is low for Vargas,so how could he sound strained? If you are referring to the high B natural at the end of the aria, it is not even Mozart's. The Munich version here is fiendishly difficult but RV made it even more so by adding his upward ornamentations at the end. Why would he add something that would give him trouble? This is a masterful and powerful performance,technically and musically. Do you know of a better version?

[rosetheatre]

I have to agree. The thickness nad maturity if RV's voice is amazing....furthermore, he sings Pucini an Verdie and Rossini and,EVERTHING.

WOW.

[danbar73]

Quite amazing indeed! What is more amazing to me is - after all these mature, dramatic Mozart and Rossini roles, fifteen years of Verdi and other heavy stuff - Ramon Vargas will be singing a role he did twenty five years ago : Don Ottavio in Mozart's Don Giovanni at Covent Garden in September. That will really show extraordinary technique of lightening and brightening his voice from the very robust and dark here, and singing soft, long legato lines with the flexibility of a much younger singer.

[agnellodei]

Strained

[ddevicente]

I think this is great, the original edition from the Munich 1781 premiere that wasn't done by Gedda, Domingo, et al., since he is lighter than Domingo he can move his voice around the coloratura. It is quite spot on and we shouldn't be overly critical on something this difficult.

[tamalesytortas]

esto es belleza, paisano, una mas a tu favor

[nebel82]

I really like Ramon Vargas

LAst week i watched La Boheme from MET live inside a cinema theater, its also HD.

He has a great voice and is a great actor.

[jaiba12]

IDOLOO!!!

[g4thz]

I don't know... this is honestly what I expected of Vargas: mostly good, with some intonation difficulty, somewhat a lack of mobility to the voice, and general straining as the tessitura peaks.

[danbar73]

You have a serious hearing problem. Get tested and use some hearing aids, You are missing a lot obviously. Vargas' ferocious florid singing almost killed Neptune. This is the best performance of the role by any tenor bar none, past or present. We may never hear this sound from any other tenor delivered with such technical mastery and passion. I wish that one day you will have the unique pleasure of hearing hearing this performance in an undistorted manner. Good luck!

[ilkertenor]

he has no intonation problems and he is singign with perfect technique!

[tamalesytortas]

que increible, es un maestrazo, tiene todo

Paisano eres el mejor

It can't get better than this

[cdyexhibit]

Does it really get any better than this? Actually, as an owner of this DVD, I can say that it does: the transfer quality of this audio is rather poor, and Vargas's voice is even better than evidenced here. I can't think of a single singer that I'd like to hear sing Idomeneo live more than Vargas.

[frenchyfrench]

Because of youtube Vargas gets a great consideration. Good news ! I guess we can put Ramon as one of the best tenor ever. Late but not too late. I also think that people start or will start to be bored of the sexy way to listen singers...So Vargas will be one of the best tenor...of the past...

[danbar73]

Despite efforts by various entities to generously promote young skinny singers with pretty boy looks at the expense of truly gifted singers who are not worried about putting on a few pounds, and despite shameful attempts by these upstarts and their fans to discredit Vargas' enormous talent and his physical appearance, it is Vargas who is continually developing and growing in stature as a unique and complete vocal artist in a class by himself, and a real credit to the world of opera.

[302MarkVII]

Wow, watching this has made me gain new admiration for Vargas. Bravo!!!!!! Oh and your comment has opened my eyes, reminds me about how Jussi Bjorling gets little recognition sometimes because he is non-latin tenor.

[danbar73]

I'm not quite sure what to make of your comment. The first half about admiration for Vargas sounds sincere, but the second half about Bjoerling getting little recognition because he was non-latin is something else. The entire opera world loves Bjoerling, myself included, and it has nothing to do with his Swedish origins. Likewise, I admire Vargas' artistry, not because of his latin background but because of the beauty of his voice, musical intelligence, elegant singing style, and modesty.

[ilFactotum]

Vargas is incredible! Not only are his voice and phrasing gorgeous, he also sings the more difficult Vienna version of the aria, which not even Pavarotti and Domingo dared sing; amazingly enough Ben Heppner does.

[Operaphile]

Cool!! I didn't know that! I have the Pav version because it was reissued cheaply - I couldn't decide which version to go for before that - Rolfe Johnson or Domingo or Pav? Any suggestions? I do like the pav recording because it includes such a wonderful lineup - Nucci, Gruberova, Baltsa, and Popp!!!

[danbar73]

If you are not bothered by the production, this DVD is a must have. The cast, chorus, orchestra and conductor are all excellent. Harteros, Kozena and Siurina compare favorably with the ladies you mentioned. With due respect to the tenors you mentioned, one feels that the role of Idomeneo perfectly suits the strengths of Vargas. He has the ideal weight, color, power and beauty of the voice fit for a king; total command of the virtuosic writing, fiery passion, musicality and ability to act as well

[KIDZAMORA]

Excelente Ramón Vargas, lastima que en México son muy pocas las personas que saben que tenemos excelentes TENORES, y por eso deben ir a buscar suerte a otras tierras, sobre todo a EUROPA

[BeauTenor]

Hammy, kind of awkward acting, but what GREAT singing. This type of florid music is what made me love him in the first place.

[dinacarina88]

Bravo Vargas! what an ugly production.

[seckkk]

ure english is sucks

[marianoruidoso]

Buenisimoooo de qué año es esta producción?

[jradetzky]

@marianoruidoso 2006

[puxex]

Aun canta rossini??

[Rogemarin]

Ramon es un grande!!!. En este papel es insuperable!!!.

[shun78shun78]

wonderfulll!!! Bravo Vargas!!

[loresol]

GRANDE GRANDE!! MIL GRACIAS!!

[JuanDiegooooo]

Looks like Neptuno is coming from Pirates of the Caribbean !!! However, Vargas doesn't really look like Johnny Depp :-((

[taillia]

I have heard Vargas in Idomeneo in Paris (december 2006). A great moment!

[marcothetenor]

Senor muchas gracias por compartirnos este tremendo video del maestro Vargas, como comentario el 'non cessa!!!' tremendo pero en 'minaciar' se escucha mal un saliente de la orquesta, ageno a Ramon. Ramon tu magia es única!!!