This sell in the black church. You have a church full of women who most don't have a man. The gay man, as many have shared with me is the man their looking for. He usually intelligent, well-groomed, sensitive, attractive, excellent with children, ect, but there's no sexual attraction. TRUTH.
Mankind enjoys sin so much that weve been practicing disobedience, rebellion, disrespect toward the Lord so long, when someone tells us the truth of God, we call is judging/condemning. When the Word already judged our sin, we condemn ourselves by our choices, actions, and lack of self-control. Which is a Fruit of the Spirit we rarely exercise, because we live by world standard that says, our sin is who we are and there is nothing to be delivered from. A lie from the pit. Hell enlarges..
@teresadallen Marriage isn't always the best option for certain people. That's why Paul also says I rather you be like myself. Being able to sustain yourself and control such urges from overtaking you. Not to defend McClurkin's all, but because he fell in this decade he can not speak the truth. Now if he is a practicing fornicator he should sit down and let God work on him. Is his testimony after he fornicated. Then why hold it against him. If God doesn't. If he truly repented and turned away.
The man is preaching the truth, sometimes we convict our very self, yes at times we have to preach until we ourselves get it right. preachers are not perfect, I am not upholding his wrong, but the word of God has a way of exposing even the most imperfect person, to help us to see whether we walk according to the straight and narrow. Homosexuality is a demonic force infiltrated mainly in Churches although in Church they are not of the Church, try to make what's wrong, right. bad ex. 4 children
What Donnie does is between him & God. Sure we can have our opinions but at the end of the day we really have NO IDEA. Most of us end up having to repent again for the same sins, am I wrong? We as Christians ought to know that. Nonetheless, no matter what his position is with God right now; this message is the Truth. GB!
I appreciate Donnie McCurklin standing up for the truth, and the fact that he has his own experience it makes his message that more powerful. Someitme the truth hurts, but it is still right. I pray that the Lord will use him and some of the homosexuals male and female will look up to God and allow him to save them and deliver them and keep them. HE (God) Jesus is able.
You were born gay?? We were all born in sin, and most times we all have a certain sin that we struggle with more than others. Some murder, some rape, some lie and some steal. If you're born that is it ok to stay that way? We're born in sin and shaped in iniquity, but are we not called out of sin??? If not then all murderers, rapists, and child molesters should walk free without guilt and in acceptance because they too were born that way. ALL OF US have to stop making excuses.
Gay people aren't trying to take over the world and destroy the mind of young people. That's absurd. We're normal human beings and I didn't choose my life. God made me and I know that to be true.
@tytheeman20 If God made gay people gay than why did God say that mankind shall not lie with manking it is a abomination?? Come on wake up and stop letting satan play with your mind.
@mrtheoneandonly83 Have a fucking seat dumbass... READ MATTHEW 23:13; 15; 23-24. THEN READ MATTHEW 22:36-40... all of you are nothing but hyprocitical pharisees in the eyes of JESUS. He didn't speak badly about gay people but he sure despise people like you so-called Christians.
@tytheeman20 You ought to be ashamed of yourself quote God's word and the cusing like a sailor Read James 3:11 you durty ol faggot REPENT and while you are there read lev 18:22 and 20:13 and before you call me anything read st Matt 7:1-2 look who is the stinking ol hyprocrit now!!
@mrtheoneandonly83 fuck you - thats the kind of hate that Im talking about and all of you no good bitches think like that...you cant even follow Jesus' first commandments and that is to love your neighbor like yourself. You ignorant fucks will not be getting into heaven as you oh so wish...since you believe in the bible so much...Jesus said you think you're better than the rest and think you are in favor with God but your judgemental ass will be the first to go to hell. Bitch Bye.
@tytheeman20 You are a stuburn sinner repent or go to hell. You're not saved, insualting me and then talking about God. Jesus would never do or say half the thing then you talk about love.
@mrtheoneandonly83 You are a stubborn sinner and a Pharisee. Repent or meet the wrath of Jesus Christ who despises people like you. You can't tell me whether I'm saved or not, it has nothing to do with you or what you know. You got a problem with me, take it up with Jesus. Talk to my butt, I just farted in your face.
@tytheeman20 You make me laugh LMBO. Don't you see or understang? I called you a sinner and you hate it, fair enough, but yet you call me a sinner and tell me that Christ despises people like me. Who gace you the right to call me everything but a child of God? Sinner man I am going to talk to God about you.
@mrtheoneandonly83 You got a problem with me, take it up with Jesus. That's what I want you to do. Then maybe he'll give you the true meaning of what he said back then. Thank you!
@tytheeman20 I agree with part of your comment. But you know I'm not the only one to preach the truth, there some preacher, teacher, evangelists, apostles and prohets that will stand up for holiness.
@mrtheoneandonly83 I'm sorry but none of you are holy or know what God will favor when it comes to judging one sin over the other. Jesus said that himself, if you read the Bible correctly. That's the MAIN reason why Jesus says not to judge others. Thank you. P.S. Gay people are born. Thank you again.
@tytheeman20 And another thing what is with all that speak to the bottom stuff? Paul tells us we should let no filthy communication come out of our mouth, I feel very sorry for you I really do. SMH
@tytheeman20 I seen a few trying to talk to you about the lifestyle that you live. If I may ask you said that if God wanted you to be straight he would have changed you a long time ago. Well there is a thing he has given us called free will. It doesn't make do anything if we don't want to do it. God did make you and I in his image. Understanding that that the image of God has no flaws, but we as people do. We also can make decisions good or bad, right or wrong in our lives.
@tytheeman20 You say that you have asked God to remove somethings in your life. Did you pray it in the name of Jesus/ Also after you prayed that he would take somethings away did you do your part? I am guilty of this myself at times. I will ask God can you help me (ex. to not be lazy, but the first thing I do is hop on the Xbox360) LOL I put myself in a situation where it was more condusive to me being lazy than productive. We want change, but we have to make changes as God does the changing.
@tytheeman20 My aim is not to bash you. Being what isn't considered normal to the masses is hard that I know. Jesus wasn't mainstream either he actually step on a lot of toes because he was different. I just hope that if you really want to get closer to Christ. I pray that you be bold enough to not give up even if yourself tells you to, old friends, family and whomever. I learned when a person is determined nothing stops them, Especially when it comes to feeling the love of God personally.
@deacon21206 Homosexuality is a “those people over” there sin. You can rile against them with out abandon, because you'll never be one of them. You'll never be sexually attracted to another man, so you can judge them without ever facing the possibility of being judged by your own set of standards. Some think they're better than gays, because they will NEVER be amongst their sinning ranks. They have that power, and they will exploit that power to make themselves feel better. It's not a lifestyle.
@tytheeman20 That same statement could be made for anyone with an addiction. No one sin is greater or lesser. I would be a fool to be content with being a heterosexual liar, fornicator, or whatever. I have not walked in your shoes. Those I cannot fit, but you have never walked in mine neither. I speak to you as myself not a majority. My standard is low compared to the standard I have to aim for. The bar was set mighty high. I have no time to gloat to make myself feel better.
@tytheeman20 That same statement could be made for anyone with an addiction. No one sin is greater or lesser. I would be a fool to be content with being a heterosexual liar, fornicator, or whatever. I have not walked in your shoes. Those I cannot fit, but you have never walked in mine neither. I speak to you as myself not a majority. My standard is low compared to the standard I have to aim for. The bar was set mighty high. I have no time to gloat to make myself feel better.
@tytheeman20@tytheeman20 That same statement could be made for anyone with an addiction. No one sin is greater or lesser. I would be a fool to be content with being a heterosexual liar, fornicator, or whatever. I have not walked in your shoes. Those I cannot fit, but you have never walked in mine neither. I speak to you as myself not a majority. My standard is low compared to the standard I have to aim for. The bar was set mighty high. I have no time to gloat to make myself feel better.
No it wasn't a phase I was actually with women. And please apprise me of how the sexuality of a woman is different of that of a man? This debate is about a lot of things. But I ask you do you want to be gay? Because If you don't want to be gay and still find yourself attracted to the same sex GOD can cure that? But if you don't want to change then you probably wont pray about changing? Do you have faith that GOD can deliver you from ANYTHING?
@1ladylike Ummm because of what I've been through, there have been many times where I asked God why am I gay and I didn't want to be gay. I have any thought about taking my life because of how despised being gay is within the black community especially. I know I will never take my own life but there are times where I am reduced to thinking about it because of the way I have been treated in the past. I never show it in public. I realize now that I love myself and other ppl don't have a clue.
@tytheeman20 Well if you have faith that GOD can change you and you want to be changed then you have to seek the kingdom of righteousness. As your journey witrh GOD Matures I pray that he remove the things of your heart that are not to his liking. That is all. I'm studying the word..lol
@1ladylike Thank you. I pray that God will restore your mind and heart to his liking as well - and guide you to the truth. I thank God for where he has brought me today as I am.
@1ladylike ......continuously saying I chose to be a gay abomination and hoodlum or whatever they want to call it is very offensive to me. That's all. Have a great day! I'm cooking...lol
@1ladylike You are not gay as you said. You said you "Bi-Curious" ... not even bisexual or something concrete. The sexuality of a woman is not like the sexuality of a man. We are completely different. Some people, men and women, do go through a phase where they may be attracted to the same sex, this is a part of the broad spectrum. Sexuality is not always one or the other. Society likes definitions and our society is heteronormative - favoring heterosexuality. Ppl born different are outcasts...
@1ladylike That does not mean that those people who have been born different are WRONG and an ABOMINATION. There are people born with both genitalia, intersex or hermaphroditic people. Our society says, NO, we need to choose what sex our children are even though they were born that way. While that is a physical example, sexual orientation is something innately wired in the brain and developed in the womb. People who keep saying it is a choice are highly misguided and uneducated.
@1ladylike The church objects to it because of it's perceived notion that all gay people are promiscuous and low-lifes which is not the case at all. I have good values and morals and live my life in a way that makes God appreciate me. I have a bright future because I accept myself and I fight for other people's equality and mine. I graduated college two weeks ago, I have my bachelor's degree on my wall and work in the legal field. I'm a normal person like everyone else and....
@1ladylike If using the Bible to explain medical issues was the only credible thing as you say, then we would not have the vast amount of helpful medicines and cures for so many of our illnesses and diseases. It just does not make sense. Sexual orientation is not a choice. This is the problem with using religion to define everything. It's not rational at all.
So when the angels from heaven visited Lot did the men of sodom surround his house and demand that the angels come out because they wished to lay with them? Did lot not offer his daughters to these men and they refused because they wanted to lay with the angels( who were men) instead of his daughtes
For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; there you go the original King James Version does not use the word homosexuality but it still means the same thing
@1ladylike You see, I do know GOD and have my personal relationship with him. He accepts me for who I am and gives me the courage and strength to endure everything in this society. There will hell to pay for those that demean my life and try to disparage me. God is LOVE, not to be used to discriminate and persecute and despise others for who they are. Psalm 129: THEY HAVE GREATLY OPPRESSED ME FROM MY YOUTH, BUT THEY HAVE NOT GAINED VICTORY OVER ME. And that's all I have to say.
@1ladylike You see, I do know GOD and have my personal relationship with him. He accepts me for who I am and gives me the courage and strength to endure everything in this society. There will hell to pay for those that demean my life and try to disparage me. God is LOVE, not to be used to discriminate and persecute and despise others for who they are. Psalm 129: THEY HAVE GREATLY OPPRESSED ME FROM MY YOUTH, BUT THEY HAVE NOT GAINED VICTORY OVER ME. And that's all I have to say.
Maybe I shouldn't have called you a dumbass. Just ignorant ass fool maybe. Sorry. As long as you're under the smokescreen of the black church's historic propaganda against gay people, don't come to me with your beliefs. We wouldn't be where we are as a black people if it wasn't for the gay black men and women who fought alongside the rest for equality while having to hide who they were, be repressed and be denied their own full personhood and respect. Donnie could be bisexual. This is an excuse.
@tytheeman20 There is no propaganda against gay people. True Christians accept people for who they are let "he who is without sin cast the first stone" I'm not judging you for being gay I just know that its a choice. I can see that you think that there is nothing wrong with being gay right? You love who you love. What does it matter as long as you love eachother? Are you gay because you Love your partner or are you gay because you are sexually attracted to the opposite sex? Sex or Love?
@1ladylike Well, your conclusion that it is a choice is based on the Biblical interpretation of people who have a history of blatant attack on gay people. Early Christianity did not speak of homosexuality as this massive sin that will doom you from all the love that God has given us. Hell was not something that existed in early Christianity. These things were created several centuries after the death of Jesus Christ for politics and the purpose of FEAR.
@tytheeman20 Real Christians do not have a blatant attack on gay people and yes Early Christianity did speak of homosexuality...... Sodom and Gamora. Its evident that you choose the parts of the bible that you want to obide by and not only that you take what you do want and interpet them how you want them to work as well. You have alot of spiritual growing to do I pray that you correct the error of your ways
@1ladylike Sodom and the cities round about it had fallen into fornication; which meant anything from prostitution to lewd sexual acts such as rape. The cities back then didn’t like foreigners that much, so foreigners were often vexed. Male and female foreigners were raped. Also, kings would take a male foreigners wife, then kill the husband. The traveler also had the fear of robbery when traveling in foreign lands. Sodom was condemned because of the inhospitality & vileness shown to the Angels
@tytheeman20 Sodom and Gomorrah was NOT about homosexuality but RAPE and INHOSPITALITY. The conduct displayed in Sodom was not loving relationship at all between people of the same sex.
@tytheeman20 Donnie is saying that being gay is a choice, and it is. And he is merely trying to explain that homosexuality is something that GOD can deliver you from.
@1ladylike Hey Dumbass...being gay is not a choice. I didn't choose it and am trying to educate ignorant folks like yourself. Obviously, you truly need help understanding. If you can tell me the exact time when you consciously made the choice to be attracted to men, then you'll have some credibility. But then again, you would be lying because you didn't make that choice. If you're attracted to men naturally and society wants to force your life with a woman...how could you live life in peace?
@tytheeman20 Well actually I made the choice to be straight because at one point in my life I was bi-curiou s but I changed my wayaEZE: 18:30 " Therefore I judge you O house of Isreal, every one according to his ways, saith the LOrd GOD. REpent and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin. Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed and make you a new heart and a new spirit for why will you die O house of Isreal."s.
@1ladylike MATT 22:38: Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and GREATEST COMMANDMENT. And THE SECOND IS like it: ‘LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF. All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments. ROM 14:13:Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother’s way. Sexuality has a broad spectrum and is not something you choose.
@1ladylike The Bible is what your religion teaches. There are hundreds of religions that have existed and have influenced society. All credible, independent medical and psychological organizations have concluded that homosexuality and sexual orientation is not something you can choose and not likely to be changed. You being bi-curious is not a definition of homosexuality. You can choose not have relations with the same sex but that does not change your NATURAL INCLINATION AND ATTRACTION.
@1ladylike I can choose to write with my left hand even though I am naturally right-handed. I can choose to wear green contact lenses while I was born with brown eyes. I can choose to marry a woman and have children because I have that ability to reproduce. But I was born attracted to men & I should not BE FORCED to live a life which I am NOT INCLINED AND PROGRAMMED TO LIVE. God did not say homosexuality is wrong after a period where it was essential for humans to reproduce. Jesus never said it.
for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine. Yeah its in there
@1ladylike That Bible quote you just gave is a version of the BIBLE that was re-written with the word HOMOSEXUAL in it. Are you seriously trying to quote something that was obviously changed by someone who wanted the word homosexual in the Bible. You need to wake up and see reality for what it is. The word homosexual was never in the original scriptures and early scriptures.
If you renew your mind and completely submit to god then you wont be that way. Why is that I can turn away from it and no longer have any desire to be with a woman but you cant?
As a Christian I do believe there are other ways to handle homosexuality. Instead of preaching against it and showing hatred towards the gays, Show love. That's all they asked for was to be loved
@bradleysubershow As a christian, a lot of times it's not gonna be what we believe but what the Authority, the blue print which is the word of God says, and homosexuality in that same word is an abomination, those ppl if they stay in that state their headed for hell...it's out of love, it's being preached so they can know what the God of heaven and earth has to say on the subject n not the indoctrination they've been fed that justifies their lifestyles so they then have a decision to make(cont
@bradleysubershow As a christian, a lot of times it's not gonna be what we believe but what the Authority, the blue print which is the word of God says, and homosexuality in that same word is an abomination, those ppl if they stay in that state their headed for hell...it's out of love, it's being preached so they can know what the God of heaven and earth has to say on the subject n not the indoctrination they've been fed that justifies their lifestyles so they then have a decision to make..
@bradleysubershow cuz truth is, a lotta homosexuals are deceived in one way or another, n if they can't hear the truth in the house of God, then where? definitely not in the world,n they've been in that lifestyle for so long that hey, it must be right, n the sad thing is they believe God is on their side, yes he's loves them as we should but he hates their sin so we should,i give that some preachers bash them but there's Pastors whose hearts weeps for them what we
@bonifyGTgal I agree and then I disagree To me alot of judgement is thrown upon homosexuals especially from those who have been "delivered." I was told don't forget where you come from
@bradleysubershow "i was told don't forget where u come from" Now u see it's wordly cliches like that, man's philosophy so to speak that are used as a defense or justification for sin, not saying there's not any philosophical truth out thr, but a whole lot of them sound pretty deep or maybe it does apply to our lives in a sense..
@bradleysubershow but if we look closely we'll see it's in total contrast to what the word of God commands a lotta times, u see when we surrender our lives to Christ we're suppose to take on that new identity n let go of our old one, "He said any man in me is a new creation old things pass away n all things become new" ppl that have been delivered thr eyes r now open to the deceptions n sin that ensnared them for quite some time,
@bradleysubershowso seeing someone else in a sinful lifestyle especially one they can relate too i know first hand i wanna share the gospel with them help them to see their sin cuz many ppl really think thr ok becuz the world says it fine but i try to show em what God has to say on the topic, n showing them thr lifestyle is wrong, is that me being judgemental by pointing out the stuff in someone's life that can send to hell,
@bradleysubershow N.B im not justifyin those that go abt it in the wrong way i know thr out thr, but should we hold on to our lifestyle after coming to the knowledge of the truth despite............when we do that its like we're tryin to get back at that person, it's like im gonna show u! type of mentality u know, as oppose to us tryin to line up our lives to the word of God...xxx nuff luv!!
@bradleysubershow gotta remember is we know the true ppl of God by their fruits..."All they want is love", they have that, it's cuz God loved thats why he gave his son, now that death that Christ suffered was for one,our deliverance, n if love is all that's required n no deliverance then that makes his suffering a big mistake by God cuz the blood the washing n cleansing wasn't needed...With love..xxx
You know its funny how God can forgive and forget our past sins.. but we can't! Yes this man has made his made his mistakes but sin is still sin! Homosexuality is still sin! Always has been! Always will be! And its going to be a sad day when we stand before God on judgement day and all these Homosexuals and lesbians are sent to burn in hell because no one had the guts to tell them that what they were doing was wrong! So Bro. Donnie I thank God that speak out against homosexuality!
@godschld18 are u serious...we get told were wrong from early on....clearly ya'll don't get it,it aint something u can turn off when u get ready...donnie is still a gay when his butt gets exposed all ya'll gonna look real stupid...gullable behind church people and then ya'll wonder why HIV is INCREASING in the black community
@pm222444 That's true he's using religion wrongfully the bible never condemns homosexuality it's how people used the act of intercourse with same gender sex in ancient times., It was used to worship false / Idol GOD's, Rape and cult prostitution... I can't believe how so many people are mix up in the head about the subject I just think that people just want to lean toward the're own understand are the just can't read
@Tommy4503 The bible condemns all practices contrary to God, but offers the chance of salvation and forgiveness. When one is sincere. We as people try to make God politically correct and that's just not possible. There is no way to be a Christian and a practicing homosexual. Same as there is no be Christian and a practicing murderer, thief, fornicator, or liar. Doesn't matter homosexual or heterosexual sin is sin. None of those Jesus Christ like characteristics. If your goal is to be like Christ
@deacon21206 I agree with you in 20% of what your saying... However the rest of what you saying is your own beliefs against what the bible. 1. The bible never talk about homosexual people it talk about the misuses sexual intercourse rather it heterosexual sex or homosexual sex., Sex regardless of gender was designed to be between two loving people that shared a connection mind, body & soul. anything outside of that is a sin. When you read of sexual sins in the bible its always ritually wrong.
@Tommy4503 speak about it and sex is between the only bible ordained union. Not just loving people. Why? Because the individual interpretation of love amongst people varies. Sex is a gift to a married couple consisting of a man and a woman also bible. Not just to loving people as you put it. When you read about sins and even sinful desires in the bible you get a full meaning. In the bible it doesn't say thou shalt not be gay. But sinful lifestyles period regardless of sex or preference.
@deacon21206 I can do this all day but won't the bible used man and women as an example.. If a man wanted to take on the responsibilities of a wife and family then those laws apply to him... We where not called homosexuals we where called eunuchs and no not just castrated men but homosexuals as we know it to day, do your research. homosexuality is not a practice is what we are... Why would GOD create something just to condemn it. LOL., LOL., Stop condemning in the name of GOD its a sin
@Tommy4503 LOL I know what a eunuch is and are. They were not gay. When they were eunuchs for God. They were set aside as an individual sexually pure for the use of God. That has nothing and had nothing to do with a sexual preference. No man can take the position of a wife that's not the natural order intended. LOL A man's role and a woman's role are specific. I speak not on the matter of job and family providing, but in balance and in leadership of a family. Those can't be swapped.
@deacon21206 I agree with you in 20% of what your saying... However the rest of what you saying is your own beliefs against what the bible. 1. The bible never talk about homosexual people it talk about the misuses sexual intercourse rather it heterosexual sex or homosexual sex., Sex regardless of gender was designed to be between two loving people that shared a connection mind, body & soul. anything outside of that is a sin. When you read of sexual sins in the bible its always ritually wrong.
@Tommy4503 A man can't fill the shows of woman because they know not how to be a woman in her position as a woman. Neither a woman can be a man in his position. That's why it was instituted one for another. Not to be rude, but someone has distorted your viewing of the word of God. Again I can point you to some scriptures and explain them if you like, but what you are saying only is an attempt to justify what God doesn't ordain. No where can you find an example of marriage lawful minus woman.
@deacon21206 LOL., You can't point me to anything I don't know your wasting your time.... But throw them at me and I'll break them down word for word as to what these writer's poets, philosophers were trying to say remember the KJV is a bad translations of the HEBREW bible.. The Vatican instituted those add-in longtime ago to condemn homosexuality because it once threaten Romes civilization so they thought. Do your research honey and get back to men but I will break down those strip for you?
@Tommy4503 Since you study you would know that the new testament wasn't written in Hebrew at all. Just the only the old testament is originally Hebrew. You have yet to answer my question of contrary lifestyles. What about Romans, what about the punishment of the tribe of Benjamin, what about in ordinate affections, what about the analogy of Christ , marriage, and the church, None of those ring a bell since you are one that studies.
@deacon21206 2. The word homosexual was a interdiction to the bible until 1946. It not that the bible didn't address sex gender sex but the bible addressed the issues because people was using all type of sex acts wrongfully. For you to insinuate that same gender love is a sin is a misunderstand or a belief of your own.. And another thing I not a Christian nor any other religion I believe in GOD the SON and the HOLY SPRITE. CHRISTIANITY & other religions are man made...
@Tommy4503 Well Christianity is Christ made. Hence the word Christian. the bible speaks on it I can show you where easily,but you would just deny it as my own interpretation. I can show you people in the bible who were punished because of the desire and not the act being committed, but again you would deny. So simply I will say this if you believe in God, Holy Spirit, and Jesus your goal is to please him right and be like him right. If true is God gay, a liar, a fornicator, and etc...
@Tommy4503 Well Christianity is Christ made. Hence the word Christian. the bible speaks on it I can show you where easily,but you would just deny it as my own interpretation. I can show you people in the bible who were punished because of the desire and not the act being committed, but again you would deny. So simply I will say this if you believe in God, Holy Spirit, and Jesus your goal is to please him right and be like him right. If true is God gay, a liar, a fornicator, and etc...
@deacon21206 2. The word homosexual was a interdiction to the bible until 1946. It not that the bible didn't address sex gender sex but the bible addressed the issues because people was using all type of sex acts wrongfully. For you to insinuate that same gender love is a sin is a misunderstand or a belief of your own.. And another thing I not a Christian nor any other religion I believe in GOD the SON and the HOLY SPRITE. CHRISTIANITY & other religions are man made...
@deacon21206 2. The word homosexual was a interdiction to the bible until 1946. It not that the bible didn't address sex gender sex but the bible addressed the issues because people was using all type of sex acts wrongfully. For you to insinuate that same gender love is a sin is a misunderstand or a belief of your own.. And another thing I not a Christian nor any other religion I believe in GOD the SON and the HOLY SPRITE. CHRISTIANITY & other religions are man made...
@deacon21206 You can't feed that B.S to me I know my history and clearly understand the bible. The only verses the deserve any mention is Leviticus 18:22 And the Sodom story.... So let see; Leviticus is laws wrote be Jews for Jews so if your Jewish then you can live by those laws.. Sodom wasn't a story about homosexuals man made that story about homosexuals. Attempted rape against Angles wasn't why the city was destroyed read the full story and the others do deserve any mention... Ask me why?
@Tommy4503 Well if you read and know your history. I can't be one that follows only the Law if I believe in Jesus. Law following Jews do not believe the Messiah has come. You can't say that the whole bible and each part isn't worthy to be used. It says the whole thing can be used. The story of Sodom isn't the only one. The new testament speaks on it. Old testament besides Leviticus mentions it. I see you have been learned to defend, but I come not to bash so what do you defend. We can talk bible
@deacon21206 Not saying that at all what people do is they read the bible and get it confused with what GOD say's and man laws that was somewhat OK with GOD but laws and words that GOD never spoke of nor address GOD let some men write the law but it make me upset when people say GOD said and when GOD step down from his thorn and became JESUS those law was meaninglessness I keep GOD ten commandments and in nowhere does it so thy shell not be homosexual/eunuch...
@deacon21206 Not saying that at all what people do is they read the bible and get it confused with what GOD say's and man laws that was somewhat OK with GOD but laws and words that GOD never spoke of nor address GOD let some men write the law but it make me upset when people say GOD said and when GOD step down from his thorn and became JESUS those law was meaninglessness I keep GOD ten commandments and in nowhere does it so thy shell not be homosexual/eunuch...
@deacon21206 Not saying that at all what people do is they read the bible and get it confused with what GOD say's and man laws that was somewhat OK with GOD but laws and words that GOD never spoke of nor address GOD let some men write the law but it make me upset when people say GOD said and when GOD step down from his thorn and became JESUS those law was meaninglessness I keep GOD ten commandments and in nowhere does it so thy shell not be homosexual/eunuch...
@Tommy4503 Okay I speak for myself not people again. They have nothing to do of our conversation. Eunuch and homosexual are not the same thing by far. Paul was a eunuch. He abstained from sex. As well did Jesus. Concerning the Law you speak of Jesus said himself what the two greatest commandments were didn't he? Again I accept the bible in its entirety not just to what supports my cause or point. Again there is nothing that permits contrary actions to what God stated is that not true?
@deacon21206 GOD said the he'll build a wall in honor of eunuch men that where born that was are made themselves Eunuch men for the heaven shakes.... Originally there were only men in the beginning., There is a beginning and ending to everything it wired that other laws in the bible besides GOD's laws condemn homosexuals something is so odd about that and you can't even wrap you finger around that mainly because you don't want to...
@Tommy4503 There were not men in the beginning there was a man in the beginning. Not men in the beginning lets clear that up and God's law condemns sin. All sin period not just sexual sins, liars, thieves, murderers, and so forth none of what I have been stating is homosexual specific in the least which gave you no ammunition to throw at me. The reason why you answer none of the questions I ask you is because they require true answers you don't want admit to which you do have that right not to.
@deacon21206 You can't feed that B.S to me I know my history and clearly understand the bible. The only verses the deserve any mention is Leviticus 18:22 And the Sodom story.... So let see; Leviticus is laws wrote be Jews for Jews so if your Jewish then you can live by those laws.. Sodom wasn't a story about homosexuals man made that story about homosexuals. Attempted rape against Angles wasn't why the city was destroyed read the full story and the others do deserve any mention... Ask me why?
@Tommy4503 If you want me to show you other scriptures. I sure can for you and explain them, but again I say you will write it off because you are programed to ignore what you don't want to hear. That mentality is what gets us to where we are now. Afraid of whatever opposes what we want to believe.
@deacon21206 You can't feed that B.S to me I know my history and clearly understand the bible. The only verses the deserve any mention is Leviticus 18:22 And the Sodom story.... So let see; Leviticus is laws wrote be Jews for Jews so if your Jewish then you can live by those laws.. Sodom wasn't a story about homosexuals man made that story about homosexuals. Attempted rape against Angles wasn't why the city was destroyed read the full story and the others do deserve any mention... Ask me why?
@deacon21206 You can't feed that B.S to me I know my history and clearly understand the bible. The only verses the deserve any mention is Leviticus 18:22 And the Sodom story.... So let see; Leviticus is laws wrote be Jews for Jews so if your Jewish then you can live by those laws.. Sodom wasn't a story about homosexuals man made that story about homosexuals. Attempted rape against Angles wasn't why the city was destroyed read the full story and the others do deserve any mention... Ask me why?
I know damn well Donnie ain't hollering about somebody gay ... and he was the biggest fucking Lady on Sunday's Best!!!! SMFH!!!! it's ashame how some gays get so tied up in church that they wanna bash they own kind. Donnie booboo, yu gay yo damn Self. Point Blank!!
I hear people accusing this preacher of not being real and that he is living a lie that is very judgemental well what I say to that is if you got proof bring it if not please take this advise and obey the word of God and turn from sin what he is saying is true don't misquote scripture and try to make this sin okay and remember this homosexuality is not in the kingdom of God you may find it in the church building but never in the kingdom of God remember romans ch.1 makes it clear
Donnie may not be acting on it but he is still a gay man not having gay sex? One when two men bond in a physical & sexual way it can't be broken unlike two females two females can be broken unless they are hard core no dick.. Two men gay, bi, straight turn gay, Once you had dick your going to always go back for more its a connect unlike any other connection on earth it's just right no matter how many people tell you it not.. I know Donnie still sit alone and thinks about men it's in his nature
Many of us are captivated and moved only by emotions...we can do all of this high talk and we even tell the truth but continue to live as filty dogs...Stop talking it and live it! Our people (especially us in the cogic) have mastered the art of "telling the truth" or "making it plain" or just talking "raw" LOL! but a lot of us are yet doing our own thing! HELP US LORD!!
Donnie McClurkin is an idiot! A pentecostal, flaming, idiot. How dare he! But what can you say!?!? When you've been brainwashed, you can't help yourself. The Christian church is a cult...it has always been and will always be. I born and raised in the place. And I know. If the law were to investigate the Black Church they will discover the same abuses as the Catholic Church. The truth is, no one really know for a fact about anything. It's all BS and speculation. Good job Donnie, idiot!
Being delivered from Homosexuality is like being delivered from being black.He is just being celibant.If a person is truly delivered then they have not need to throw it up in peoples faces because people will naturally see that they are delivered.
@liftimyall That true and I feel so bad for making that statement because there are so many gay men and women that's married to the opposite sex and have kids. Look at Eddie Long and so many other men and women that are married with kids and having secret affairs because they are unhappy and lying about who they really are? There nothing wrong with being GAY he just should be honest with himself
@liftimyall I feel so bad for making that statement because there are so many gay men and women that's married to the opposite sex and have kids. Look at Eddie Long and so many other men and women that are married with kids and having secret affairs because they are unhappy and lying about who they really are? There nothing wrong with being GAY he just should be honest with himself
@teresadallen just because it was this decade doesnt mean that the man is still doing it right? i dont understand why you even mentioned him having a child. He said that it was wrong and thats the main point. Im not validating the pre-marital child. its not right. But that still doesnt mean that his words on here are true.and just like God lets your "yesterday" sins be forgiven AND forgotten when you ask, do the same for others. I wouldnt have even mentioned what happed a decade ago.
McClurkin states that he has been delivered, who I are U to say that he hasn't unless u have witness him do other wise, remember U doubters, the same God that U claimed that has saved U can also do the same for Donnie and others for God shows no favortism toward any one, because one is married or unmarried proves absolutely nothing these days, we all know that, so instead worrying about some ones elses salavation, we need to make sure that we are saved, instead of trying to hurt others.
@ SEFYH Donnie Mclurkin is not GAY! and you should be ashamed of yourself for saying that! you need to stop Judging people. and ask God to forgive you!
no let me set the record straight it is a process for God to change you and guess what.God is a mighty God and its not right for you to be judgin him and God is workin on him still
iF DONNIE SO DELIVERED...WHERE AND WHO'S HIS WOMAN....YALL CAN SIT HERE AND GET CAUGHT UP IN EMOTION ALL U WANT...UNTIL I SEE A MARRIAGE WITH A WOMAN,HE STILL GAY AND YALL DEEP CHRISTIANS KNOW WHY I'M GOIN THERE.......I'M LISTENING
@Jaycarl32 actually NO!...but the point i was proving,all the gay church men i know that claim they delivered....i never see them with a woman,only amongst other gay men......the church is full of married gay man ,so i guess that was a dumb comment on my part,lol
@sylviacalhoun lol, Well I wouldn't call it dumb, I would say ignorant.. I think this sitaution with Homosexuality and Lesbianism will never be brought under subjection... In the end I think it's just about your "true' revelation with Christ... I feel you though, a little lol. You can only hang with that crowd either to shwocase your testimony and to be a light or to flirt with it and still play...
@Jaycarl32 actually NO!...but the point i was proving,all the gay church men i know that claim they delivered....i never see them with a woman,only amongst other gay men......the church is full of married gay man ,so i guess that was a dumb comment on my part,lol
This sell in the black church. You have a church full of women who most don't have a man. The gay man, as many have shared with me is the man their looking for. He usually intelligent, well-groomed, sensitive, attractive, excellent with children, ect, but there's no sexual attraction. TRUTH.
Zowyla 4 months ago 2
Mankind enjoys sin so much that weve been practicing disobedience, rebellion, disrespect toward the Lord so long, when someone tells us the truth of God, we call is judging/condemning. When the Word already judged our sin, we condemn ourselves by our choices, actions, and lack of self-control. Which is a Fruit of the Spirit we rarely exercise, because we live by world standard that says, our sin is who we are and there is nothing to be delivered from. A lie from the pit. Hell enlarges..
suenelson1024 4 months ago
@teresadallen Marriage isn't always the best option for certain people. That's why Paul also says I rather you be like myself. Being able to sustain yourself and control such urges from overtaking you. Not to defend McClurkin's all, but because he fell in this decade he can not speak the truth. Now if he is a practicing fornicator he should sit down and let God work on him. Is his testimony after he fornicated. Then why hold it against him. If God doesn't. If he truly repented and turned away.
deacon21206 4 months ago
The man is preaching the truth, sometimes we convict our very self, yes at times we have to preach until we ourselves get it right. preachers are not perfect, I am not upholding his wrong, but the word of God has a way of exposing even the most imperfect person, to help us to see whether we walk according to the straight and narrow. Homosexuality is a demonic force infiltrated mainly in Churches although in Church they are not of the Church, try to make what's wrong, right. bad ex. 4 children
peacemaker203 4 months ago
What Donnie does is between him & God. Sure we can have our opinions but at the end of the day we really have NO IDEA. Most of us end up having to repent again for the same sins, am I wrong? We as Christians ought to know that. Nonetheless, no matter what his position is with God right now; this message is the Truth. GB!
SoulfulCommute 5 months ago
I appreciate Donnie McCurklin standing up for the truth, and the fact that he has his own experience it makes his message that more powerful. Someitme the truth hurts, but it is still right. I pray that the Lord will use him and some of the homosexuals male and female will look up to God and allow him to save them and deliver them and keep them. HE (God) Jesus is able.
davisw36 6 months ago
You were born gay?? We were all born in sin, and most times we all have a certain sin that we struggle with more than others. Some murder, some rape, some lie and some steal. If you're born that is it ok to stay that way? We're born in sin and shaped in iniquity, but are we not called out of sin??? If not then all murderers, rapists, and child molesters should walk free without guilt and in acceptance because they too were born that way. ALL OF US have to stop making excuses.
heiressheiress 6 months ago
@heiressheiress Good point there. LOL you better preach that one.
deacon21206 4 months ago
Gay people aren't trying to take over the world and destroy the mind of young people. That's absurd. We're normal human beings and I didn't choose my life. God made me and I know that to be true.
tytheeman20 6 months ago
@tytheeman20 If God made gay people gay than why did God say that mankind shall not lie with manking it is a abomination?? Come on wake up and stop letting satan play with your mind.
mrtheoneandonly83 6 months ago
@mrtheoneandonly83 Have a fucking seat dumbass... READ MATTHEW 23:13; 15; 23-24. THEN READ MATTHEW 22:36-40... all of you are nothing but hyprocitical pharisees in the eyes of JESUS. He didn't speak badly about gay people but he sure despise people like you so-called Christians.
tytheeman20 6 months ago
@tytheeman20 You ought to be ashamed of yourself quote God's word and the cusing like a sailor Read James 3:11 you durty ol faggot REPENT and while you are there read lev 18:22 and 20:13 and before you call me anything read st Matt 7:1-2 look who is the stinking ol hyprocrit now!!
mrtheoneandonly83 6 months ago
@mrtheoneandonly83 fuck you - thats the kind of hate that Im talking about and all of you no good bitches think like that...you cant even follow Jesus' first commandments and that is to love your neighbor like yourself. You ignorant fucks will not be getting into heaven as you oh so wish...since you believe in the bible so much...Jesus said you think you're better than the rest and think you are in favor with God but your judgemental ass will be the first to go to hell. Bitch Bye.
tytheeman20 6 months ago
@tytheeman20 You are a stuburn sinner repent or go to hell. You're not saved, insualting me and then talking about God. Jesus would never do or say half the thing then you talk about love.
mrtheoneandonly83 5 months ago
@mrtheoneandonly83 You are a stubborn sinner and a Pharisee. Repent or meet the wrath of Jesus Christ who despises people like you. You can't tell me whether I'm saved or not, it has nothing to do with you or what you know. You got a problem with me, take it up with Jesus. Talk to my butt, I just farted in your face.
tytheeman20 5 months ago
@tytheeman20 You make me laugh LMBO. Don't you see or understang? I called you a sinner and you hate it, fair enough, but yet you call me a sinner and tell me that Christ despises people like me. Who gace you the right to call me everything but a child of God? Sinner man I am going to talk to God about you.
mrtheoneandonly83 5 months ago
@mrtheoneandonly83 You got a problem with me, take it up with Jesus. That's what I want you to do. Then maybe he'll give you the true meaning of what he said back then. Thank you!
tytheeman20 5 months ago
@tytheeman20 I love everyone even you, but if it's wrong I'm gonna preach against it.
mrtheoneandonly83 5 months ago
@mrtheoneandonly83 Have fun! You'll have to preach it until you die because we're born everyday.
tytheeman20 5 months ago
@tytheeman20 I agree with part of your comment. But you know I'm not the only one to preach the truth, there some preacher, teacher, evangelists, apostles and prohets that will stand up for holiness.
mrtheoneandonly83 5 months ago
@mrtheoneandonly83 I'm sorry but none of you are holy or know what God will favor when it comes to judging one sin over the other. Jesus said that himself, if you read the Bible correctly. That's the MAIN reason why Jesus says not to judge others. Thank you. P.S. Gay people are born. Thank you again.
tytheeman20 5 months ago
@tytheeman20 And another thing what is with all that speak to the bottom stuff? Paul tells us we should let no filthy communication come out of our mouth, I feel very sorry for you I really do. SMH
mrtheoneandonly83 5 months ago
@tytheeman20 I seen a few trying to talk to you about the lifestyle that you live. If I may ask you said that if God wanted you to be straight he would have changed you a long time ago. Well there is a thing he has given us called free will. It doesn't make do anything if we don't want to do it. God did make you and I in his image. Understanding that that the image of God has no flaws, but we as people do. We also can make decisions good or bad, right or wrong in our lives.
deacon21206 4 months ago
@tytheeman20 You say that you have asked God to remove somethings in your life. Did you pray it in the name of Jesus/ Also after you prayed that he would take somethings away did you do your part? I am guilty of this myself at times. I will ask God can you help me (ex. to not be lazy, but the first thing I do is hop on the Xbox360) LOL I put myself in a situation where it was more condusive to me being lazy than productive. We want change, but we have to make changes as God does the changing.
deacon21206 4 months ago
@tytheeman20 My aim is not to bash you. Being what isn't considered normal to the masses is hard that I know. Jesus wasn't mainstream either he actually step on a lot of toes because he was different. I just hope that if you really want to get closer to Christ. I pray that you be bold enough to not give up even if yourself tells you to, old friends, family and whomever. I learned when a person is determined nothing stops them, Especially when it comes to feeling the love of God personally.
deacon21206 4 months ago
@deacon21206 Homosexuality is a “those people over” there sin. You can rile against them with out abandon, because you'll never be one of them. You'll never be sexually attracted to another man, so you can judge them without ever facing the possibility of being judged by your own set of standards. Some think they're better than gays, because they will NEVER be amongst their sinning ranks. They have that power, and they will exploit that power to make themselves feel better. It's not a lifestyle.
tytheeman20 4 months ago
@tytheeman20 That same statement could be made for anyone with an addiction. No one sin is greater or lesser. I would be a fool to be content with being a heterosexual liar, fornicator, or whatever. I have not walked in your shoes. Those I cannot fit, but you have never walked in mine neither. I speak to you as myself not a majority. My standard is low compared to the standard I have to aim for. The bar was set mighty high. I have no time to gloat to make myself feel better.
deacon21206 4 months ago
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@tytheeman20 That same statement could be made for anyone with an addiction. No one sin is greater or lesser. I would be a fool to be content with being a heterosexual liar, fornicator, or whatever. I have not walked in your shoes. Those I cannot fit, but you have never walked in mine neither. I speak to you as myself not a majority. My standard is low compared to the standard I have to aim for. The bar was set mighty high. I have no time to gloat to make myself feel better.
deacon21206 4 months ago
@tytheeman20 @tytheeman20 That same statement could be made for anyone with an addiction. No one sin is greater or lesser. I would be a fool to be content with being a heterosexual liar, fornicator, or whatever. I have not walked in your shoes. Those I cannot fit, but you have never walked in mine neither. I speak to you as myself not a majority. My standard is low compared to the standard I have to aim for. The bar was set mighty high. I have no time to gloat to make myself feel better.
deacon21206 4 months ago
No it wasn't a phase I was actually with women. And please apprise me of how the sexuality of a woman is different of that of a man? This debate is about a lot of things. But I ask you do you want to be gay? Because If you don't want to be gay and still find yourself attracted to the same sex GOD can cure that? But if you don't want to change then you probably wont pray about changing? Do you have faith that GOD can deliver you from ANYTHING?
1ladylike 6 months ago
@1ladylike Ummm because of what I've been through, there have been many times where I asked God why am I gay and I didn't want to be gay. I have any thought about taking my life because of how despised being gay is within the black community especially. I know I will never take my own life but there are times where I am reduced to thinking about it because of the way I have been treated in the past. I never show it in public. I realize now that I love myself and other ppl don't have a clue.
tytheeman20 6 months ago
@tytheeman20 Well if you have faith that GOD can change you and you want to be changed then you have to seek the kingdom of righteousness. As your journey witrh GOD Matures I pray that he remove the things of your heart that are not to his liking. That is all. I'm studying the word..lol
1ladylike 6 months ago
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tytheeman20 6 months ago
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@1ladylike Thank you. I pray that God will restore your mind and heart to his liking as well - and guide you to the truth. I thank God for where he has brought me today as I am.
tytheeman20 6 months ago
I did not mean to call nut that was supposed to be NOW
1ladylike 6 months ago
@1ladylike I'm 22 years old, if God wanted to change me and make me straight he would've a long time ago....
tytheeman20 6 months ago
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tytheeman20 6 months ago
@1ladylike ......continuously saying I chose to be a gay abomination and hoodlum or whatever they want to call it is very offensive to me. That's all. Have a great day! I'm cooking...lol
tytheeman20 6 months ago
My question still remains unanswered: Why is it that I can turn away from that lifestyle and you cannot?
1ladylike 6 months ago
@1ladylike You are not gay as you said. You said you "Bi-Curious" ... not even bisexual or something concrete. The sexuality of a woman is not like the sexuality of a man. We are completely different. Some people, men and women, do go through a phase where they may be attracted to the same sex, this is a part of the broad spectrum. Sexuality is not always one or the other. Society likes definitions and our society is heteronormative - favoring heterosexuality. Ppl born different are outcasts...
tytheeman20 6 months ago
@1ladylike That does not mean that those people who have been born different are WRONG and an ABOMINATION. There are people born with both genitalia, intersex or hermaphroditic people. Our society says, NO, we need to choose what sex our children are even though they were born that way. While that is a physical example, sexual orientation is something innately wired in the brain and developed in the womb. People who keep saying it is a choice are highly misguided and uneducated.
tytheeman20 6 months ago
@1ladylike The church objects to it because of it's perceived notion that all gay people are promiscuous and low-lifes which is not the case at all. I have good values and morals and live my life in a way that makes God appreciate me. I have a bright future because I accept myself and I fight for other people's equality and mine. I graduated college two weeks ago, I have my bachelor's degree on my wall and work in the legal field. I'm a normal person like everyone else and....
tytheeman20 6 months ago
Good for you nut you still have a very long way to go as we all do
1ladylike 6 months ago
@1ladylike If using the Bible to explain medical issues was the only credible thing as you say, then we would not have the vast amount of helpful medicines and cures for so many of our illnesses and diseases. It just does not make sense. Sexual orientation is not a choice. This is the problem with using religion to define everything. It's not rational at all.
tytheeman20 6 months ago
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tytheeman20 6 months ago
So when the angels from heaven visited Lot did the men of sodom surround his house and demand that the angels come out because they wished to lay with them? Did lot not offer his daughters to these men and they refused because they wanted to lay with the angels( who were men) instead of his daughtes
1ladylike 6 months ago
For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; there you go the original King James Version does not use the word homosexuality but it still means the same thing
1ladylike 6 months ago
@1ladylike You see, I do know GOD and have my personal relationship with him. He accepts me for who I am and gives me the courage and strength to endure everything in this society. There will hell to pay for those that demean my life and try to disparage me. God is LOVE, not to be used to discriminate and persecute and despise others for who they are. Psalm 129: THEY HAVE GREATLY OPPRESSED ME FROM MY YOUTH, BUT THEY HAVE NOT GAINED VICTORY OVER ME. And that's all I have to say.
tytheeman20 6 months ago
@1ladylike You see, I do know GOD and have my personal relationship with him. He accepts me for who I am and gives me the courage and strength to endure everything in this society. There will hell to pay for those that demean my life and try to disparage me. God is LOVE, not to be used to discriminate and persecute and despise others for who they are. Psalm 129: THEY HAVE GREATLY OPPRESSED ME FROM MY YOUTH, BUT THEY HAVE NOT GAINED VICTORY OVER ME. And that's all I have to say.
tytheeman20 6 months ago
Its not nessicarily about the word its about the meaning behind the word.
1ladylike 6 months ago
Maybe I shouldn't have called you a dumbass. Just ignorant ass fool maybe. Sorry. As long as you're under the smokescreen of the black church's historic propaganda against gay people, don't come to me with your beliefs. We wouldn't be where we are as a black people if it wasn't for the gay black men and women who fought alongside the rest for equality while having to hide who they were, be repressed and be denied their own full personhood and respect. Donnie could be bisexual. This is an excuse.
tytheeman20 6 months ago
@tytheeman20 There is no propaganda against gay people. True Christians accept people for who they are let "he who is without sin cast the first stone" I'm not judging you for being gay I just know that its a choice. I can see that you think that there is nothing wrong with being gay right? You love who you love. What does it matter as long as you love eachother? Are you gay because you Love your partner or are you gay because you are sexually attracted to the opposite sex? Sex or Love?
1ladylike 6 months ago
@1ladylike Well, your conclusion that it is a choice is based on the Biblical interpretation of people who have a history of blatant attack on gay people. Early Christianity did not speak of homosexuality as this massive sin that will doom you from all the love that God has given us. Hell was not something that existed in early Christianity. These things were created several centuries after the death of Jesus Christ for politics and the purpose of FEAR.
tytheeman20 6 months ago
@tytheeman20 Real Christians do not have a blatant attack on gay people and yes Early Christianity did speak of homosexuality...... Sodom and Gamora. Its evident that you choose the parts of the bible that you want to obide by and not only that you take what you do want and interpet them how you want them to work as well. You have alot of spiritual growing to do I pray that you correct the error of your ways
1ladylike 6 months ago
@1ladylike Sodom and the cities round about it had fallen into fornication; which meant anything from prostitution to lewd sexual acts such as rape. The cities back then didn’t like foreigners that much, so foreigners were often vexed. Male and female foreigners were raped. Also, kings would take a male foreigners wife, then kill the husband. The traveler also had the fear of robbery when traveling in foreign lands. Sodom was condemned because of the inhospitality & vileness shown to the Angels
tytheeman20 6 months ago
@tytheeman20 Sodom and Gomorrah was NOT about homosexuality but RAPE and INHOSPITALITY. The conduct displayed in Sodom was not loving relationship at all between people of the same sex.
tytheeman20 6 months ago
Donnie is gay and he can shout all he wants to and it won't change.
tytheeman20 7 months ago
@tytheeman20 Donnie is saying that being gay is a choice, and it is. And he is merely trying to explain that homosexuality is something that GOD can deliver you from.
1ladylike 6 months ago
@1ladylike Hey Dumbass...being gay is not a choice. I didn't choose it and am trying to educate ignorant folks like yourself. Obviously, you truly need help understanding. If you can tell me the exact time when you consciously made the choice to be attracted to men, then you'll have some credibility. But then again, you would be lying because you didn't make that choice. If you're attracted to men naturally and society wants to force your life with a woman...how could you live life in peace?
tytheeman20 6 months ago
@tytheeman20 Well actually I made the choice to be straight because at one point in my life I was bi-curiou s but I changed my wayaEZE: 18:30 " Therefore I judge you O house of Isreal, every one according to his ways, saith the LOrd GOD. REpent and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin. Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed and make you a new heart and a new spirit for why will you die O house of Isreal."s.
1ladylike 6 months ago
@tytheeman20 There is the credibility that you so desperately need. Scripture is the only thing that holds any merit.
1ladylike 6 months ago
@1ladylike MATT 22:38: Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and GREATEST COMMANDMENT. And THE SECOND IS like it: ‘LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF. All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments. ROM 14:13:Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother’s way. Sexuality has a broad spectrum and is not something you choose.
tytheeman20 6 months ago
@1ladylike The Bible is what your religion teaches. There are hundreds of religions that have existed and have influenced society. All credible, independent medical and psychological organizations have concluded that homosexuality and sexual orientation is not something you can choose and not likely to be changed. You being bi-curious is not a definition of homosexuality. You can choose not have relations with the same sex but that does not change your NATURAL INCLINATION AND ATTRACTION.
tytheeman20 6 months ago
@tytheeman20 Medical and psychological organizations have been trying to contradict the bible for a long time.
1ladylike 6 months ago
@1ladylike I can choose to write with my left hand even though I am naturally right-handed. I can choose to wear green contact lenses while I was born with brown eyes. I can choose to marry a woman and have children because I have that ability to reproduce. But I was born attracted to men & I should not BE FORCED to live a life which I am NOT INCLINED AND PROGRAMMED TO LIVE. God did not say homosexuality is wrong after a period where it was essential for humans to reproduce. Jesus never said it.
tytheeman20 6 months ago
@tytheeman20 1 Timothy 1:10
for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine. Yeah its in there
1ladylike 6 months ago
@1ladylike That Bible quote you just gave is a version of the BIBLE that was re-written with the word HOMOSEXUAL in it. Are you seriously trying to quote something that was obviously changed by someone who wanted the word homosexual in the Bible. You need to wake up and see reality for what it is. The word homosexual was never in the original scriptures and early scriptures.
tytheeman20 6 months ago
If you renew your mind and completely submit to god then you wont be that way. Why is that I can turn away from it and no longer have any desire to be with a woman but you cant?
1ladylike 6 months ago
let God do the judging u shut ur mouth.. Donnie is still gay inhis heart.. this is all clouds to barr it..he is better of leanibg to God.
victrus06 9 months ago
is he still preaching this garbage? he should just hang himself i have No respect for this human being at all.....sick sick human being
MsDeandrea 10 months ago
As a Christian I do believe there are other ways to handle homosexuality. Instead of preaching against it and showing hatred towards the gays, Show love. That's all they asked for was to be loved
bradleysubershow 11 months ago
@bradleysubershow As a christian, a lot of times it's not gonna be what we believe but what the Authority, the blue print which is the word of God says, and homosexuality in that same word is an abomination, those ppl if they stay in that state their headed for hell...it's out of love, it's being preached so they can know what the God of heaven and earth has to say on the subject n not the indoctrination they've been fed that justifies their lifestyles so they then have a decision to make(cont
bonifyGTgal 10 months ago
@bradleysubershow As a christian, a lot of times it's not gonna be what we believe but what the Authority, the blue print which is the word of God says, and homosexuality in that same word is an abomination, those ppl if they stay in that state their headed for hell...it's out of love, it's being preached so they can know what the God of heaven and earth has to say on the subject n not the indoctrination they've been fed that justifies their lifestyles so they then have a decision to make..
bonifyGTgal 10 months ago
@bradleysubershow cuz truth is, a lotta homosexuals are deceived in one way or another, n if they can't hear the truth in the house of God, then where? definitely not in the world,n they've been in that lifestyle for so long that hey, it must be right, n the sad thing is they believe God is on their side, yes he's loves them as we should but he hates their sin so we should,i give that some preachers bash them but there's Pastors whose hearts weeps for them what we
bonifyGTgal 10 months ago
@bonifyGTgal I agree and then I disagree To me alot of judgement is thrown upon homosexuals especially from those who have been "delivered." I was told don't forget where you come from
bradleysubershow 10 months ago
@bradleysubershow "i was told don't forget where u come from" Now u see it's wordly cliches like that, man's philosophy so to speak that are used as a defense or justification for sin, not saying there's not any philosophical truth out thr, but a whole lot of them sound pretty deep or maybe it does apply to our lives in a sense..
bonifyGTgal 9 months ago
@bradleysubershow but if we look closely we'll see it's in total contrast to what the word of God commands a lotta times, u see when we surrender our lives to Christ we're suppose to take on that new identity n let go of our old one, "He said any man in me is a new creation old things pass away n all things become new" ppl that have been delivered thr eyes r now open to the deceptions n sin that ensnared them for quite some time,
bonifyGTgal 9 months ago
@bradleysubershowso seeing someone else in a sinful lifestyle especially one they can relate too i know first hand i wanna share the gospel with them help them to see their sin cuz many ppl really think thr ok becuz the world says it fine but i try to show em what God has to say on the topic, n showing them thr lifestyle is wrong, is that me being judgemental by pointing out the stuff in someone's life that can send to hell,
bonifyGTgal 9 months ago
@bradleysubershow N.B im not justifyin those that go abt it in the wrong way i know thr out thr, but should we hold on to our lifestyle after coming to the knowledge of the truth despite............when we do that its like we're tryin to get back at that person, it's like im gonna show u! type of mentality u know, as oppose to us tryin to line up our lives to the word of God...xxx nuff luv!!
bonifyGTgal 9 months ago
@bradleysubershow gotta remember is we know the true ppl of God by their fruits..."All they want is love", they have that, it's cuz God loved thats why he gave his son, now that death that Christ suffered was for one,our deliverance, n if love is all that's required n no deliverance then that makes his suffering a big mistake by God cuz the blood the washing n cleansing wasn't needed...With love..xxx
bonifyGTgal 10 months ago
You know its funny how God can forgive and forget our past sins.. but we can't! Yes this man has made his made his mistakes but sin is still sin! Homosexuality is still sin! Always has been! Always will be! And its going to be a sad day when we stand before God on judgement day and all these Homosexuals and lesbians are sent to burn in hell because no one had the guts to tell them that what they were doing was wrong! So Bro. Donnie I thank God that speak out against homosexuality!
godschld18 11 months ago
@godschld18 are u serious...we get told were wrong from early on....clearly ya'll don't get it,it aint something u can turn off when u get ready...donnie is still a gay when his butt gets exposed all ya'll gonna look real stupid...gullable behind church people and then ya'll wonder why HIV is INCREASING in the black community
baldwinvillage 11 months ago
there was no holy spirit in that place, how can he be if that entire room was filled with hatered towards gays.
FunkypuppySA 1 year ago
Incompetent homophobe using religion to demonize those already vulnerable to hatred and persecution.
pm222444 1 year ago 2
@pm222444 That's true he's using religion wrongfully the bible never condemns homosexuality it's how people used the act of intercourse with same gender sex in ancient times., It was used to worship false / Idol GOD's, Rape and cult prostitution... I can't believe how so many people are mix up in the head about the subject I just think that people just want to lean toward the're own understand are the just can't read
Tommy4503 5 months ago
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deacon21206 4 months ago
@Tommy4503 The bible condemns all practices contrary to God, but offers the chance of salvation and forgiveness. When one is sincere. We as people try to make God politically correct and that's just not possible. There is no way to be a Christian and a practicing homosexual. Same as there is no be Christian and a practicing murderer, thief, fornicator, or liar. Doesn't matter homosexual or heterosexual sin is sin. None of those Jesus Christ like characteristics. If your goal is to be like Christ
deacon21206 4 months ago
@deacon21206 I agree with you in 20% of what your saying... However the rest of what you saying is your own beliefs against what the bible. 1. The bible never talk about homosexual people it talk about the misuses sexual intercourse rather it heterosexual sex or homosexual sex., Sex regardless of gender was designed to be between two loving people that shared a connection mind, body & soul. anything outside of that is a sin. When you read of sexual sins in the bible its always ritually wrong.
Tommy4503 4 months ago
@Tommy4503 speak about it and sex is between the only bible ordained union. Not just loving people. Why? Because the individual interpretation of love amongst people varies. Sex is a gift to a married couple consisting of a man and a woman also bible. Not just to loving people as you put it. When you read about sins and even sinful desires in the bible you get a full meaning. In the bible it doesn't say thou shalt not be gay. But sinful lifestyles period regardless of sex or preference.
deacon21206 4 months ago
@deacon21206 I can do this all day but won't the bible used man and women as an example.. If a man wanted to take on the responsibilities of a wife and family then those laws apply to him... We where not called homosexuals we where called eunuchs and no not just castrated men but homosexuals as we know it to day, do your research. homosexuality is not a practice is what we are... Why would GOD create something just to condemn it. LOL., LOL., Stop condemning in the name of GOD its a sin
Tommy4503 4 months ago
@Tommy4503 LOL I know what a eunuch is and are. They were not gay. When they were eunuchs for God. They were set aside as an individual sexually pure for the use of God. That has nothing and had nothing to do with a sexual preference. No man can take the position of a wife that's not the natural order intended. LOL A man's role and a woman's role are specific. I speak not on the matter of job and family providing, but in balance and in leadership of a family. Those can't be swapped.
deacon21206 4 months ago
@deacon21206 I agree with you in 20% of what your saying... However the rest of what you saying is your own beliefs against what the bible. 1. The bible never talk about homosexual people it talk about the misuses sexual intercourse rather it heterosexual sex or homosexual sex., Sex regardless of gender was designed to be between two loving people that shared a connection mind, body & soul. anything outside of that is a sin. When you read of sexual sins in the bible its always ritually wrong.
Tommy4503 4 months ago
@Tommy4503 A man can't fill the shows of woman because they know not how to be a woman in her position as a woman. Neither a woman can be a man in his position. That's why it was instituted one for another. Not to be rude, but someone has distorted your viewing of the word of God. Again I can point you to some scriptures and explain them if you like, but what you are saying only is an attempt to justify what God doesn't ordain. No where can you find an example of marriage lawful minus woman.
deacon21206 4 months ago
@deacon21206 LOL., You can't point me to anything I don't know your wasting your time.... But throw them at me and I'll break them down word for word as to what these writer's poets, philosophers were trying to say remember the KJV is a bad translations of the HEBREW bible.. The Vatican instituted those add-in longtime ago to condemn homosexuality because it once threaten Romes civilization so they thought. Do your research honey and get back to men but I will break down those strip for you?
Tommy4503 4 months ago
@Tommy4503 Since you study you would know that the new testament wasn't written in Hebrew at all. Just the only the old testament is originally Hebrew. You have yet to answer my question of contrary lifestyles. What about Romans, what about the punishment of the tribe of Benjamin, what about in ordinate affections, what about the analogy of Christ , marriage, and the church, None of those ring a bell since you are one that studies.
deacon21206 4 months ago
@deacon21206 2. The word homosexual was a interdiction to the bible until 1946. It not that the bible didn't address sex gender sex but the bible addressed the issues because people was using all type of sex acts wrongfully. For you to insinuate that same gender love is a sin is a misunderstand or a belief of your own.. And another thing I not a Christian nor any other religion I believe in GOD the SON and the HOLY SPRITE. CHRISTIANITY & other religions are man made...
Tommy4503 4 months ago
@Tommy4503 Well Christianity is Christ made. Hence the word Christian. the bible speaks on it I can show you where easily,but you would just deny it as my own interpretation. I can show you people in the bible who were punished because of the desire and not the act being committed, but again you would deny. So simply I will say this if you believe in God, Holy Spirit, and Jesus your goal is to please him right and be like him right. If true is God gay, a liar, a fornicator, and etc...
deacon21206 4 months ago
@Tommy4503 Well Christianity is Christ made. Hence the word Christian. the bible speaks on it I can show you where easily,but you would just deny it as my own interpretation. I can show you people in the bible who were punished because of the desire and not the act being committed, but again you would deny. So simply I will say this if you believe in God, Holy Spirit, and Jesus your goal is to please him right and be like him right. If true is God gay, a liar, a fornicator, and etc...
deacon21206 4 months ago
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@deacon21206 2. The word homosexual was a interdiction to the bible until 1946. It not that the bible didn't address sex gender sex but the bible addressed the issues because people was using all type of sex acts wrongfully. For you to insinuate that same gender love is a sin is a misunderstand or a belief of your own.. And another thing I not a Christian nor any other religion I believe in GOD the SON and the HOLY SPRITE. CHRISTIANITY & other religions are man made...
Tommy4503 4 months ago
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@deacon21206 2. The word homosexual was a interdiction to the bible until 1946. It not that the bible didn't address sex gender sex but the bible addressed the issues because people was using all type of sex acts wrongfully. For you to insinuate that same gender love is a sin is a misunderstand or a belief of your own.. And another thing I not a Christian nor any other religion I believe in GOD the SON and the HOLY SPRITE. CHRISTIANITY & other religions are man made...
Tommy4503 4 months ago
@deacon21206 You can't feed that B.S to me I know my history and clearly understand the bible. The only verses the deserve any mention is Leviticus 18:22 And the Sodom story.... So let see; Leviticus is laws wrote be Jews for Jews so if your Jewish then you can live by those laws.. Sodom wasn't a story about homosexuals man made that story about homosexuals. Attempted rape against Angles wasn't why the city was destroyed read the full story and the others do deserve any mention... Ask me why?
Tommy4503 4 months ago
@Tommy4503 Well if you read and know your history. I can't be one that follows only the Law if I believe in Jesus. Law following Jews do not believe the Messiah has come. You can't say that the whole bible and each part isn't worthy to be used. It says the whole thing can be used. The story of Sodom isn't the only one. The new testament speaks on it. Old testament besides Leviticus mentions it. I see you have been learned to defend, but I come not to bash so what do you defend. We can talk bible
deacon21206 4 months ago
@deacon21206 Not saying that at all what people do is they read the bible and get it confused with what GOD say's and man laws that was somewhat OK with GOD but laws and words that GOD never spoke of nor address GOD let some men write the law but it make me upset when people say GOD said and when GOD step down from his thorn and became JESUS those law was meaninglessness I keep GOD ten commandments and in nowhere does it so thy shell not be homosexual/eunuch...
Tommy4503 4 months ago
@deacon21206 Not saying that at all what people do is they read the bible and get it confused with what GOD say's and man laws that was somewhat OK with GOD but laws and words that GOD never spoke of nor address GOD let some men write the law but it make me upset when people say GOD said and when GOD step down from his thorn and became JESUS those law was meaninglessness I keep GOD ten commandments and in nowhere does it so thy shell not be homosexual/eunuch...
Tommy4503 4 months ago
@deacon21206 Not saying that at all what people do is they read the bible and get it confused with what GOD say's and man laws that was somewhat OK with GOD but laws and words that GOD never spoke of nor address GOD let some men write the law but it make me upset when people say GOD said and when GOD step down from his thorn and became JESUS those law was meaninglessness I keep GOD ten commandments and in nowhere does it so thy shell not be homosexual/eunuch...
Tommy4503 4 months ago
@Tommy4503 Okay I speak for myself not people again. They have nothing to do of our conversation. Eunuch and homosexual are not the same thing by far. Paul was a eunuch. He abstained from sex. As well did Jesus. Concerning the Law you speak of Jesus said himself what the two greatest commandments were didn't he? Again I accept the bible in its entirety not just to what supports my cause or point. Again there is nothing that permits contrary actions to what God stated is that not true?
deacon21206 4 months ago
@deacon21206 GOD said the he'll build a wall in honor of eunuch men that where born that was are made themselves Eunuch men for the heaven shakes.... Originally there were only men in the beginning., There is a beginning and ending to everything it wired that other laws in the bible besides GOD's laws condemn homosexuals something is so odd about that and you can't even wrap you finger around that mainly because you don't want to...
Tommy4503 4 months ago
@Tommy4503 There were not men in the beginning there was a man in the beginning. Not men in the beginning lets clear that up and God's law condemns sin. All sin period not just sexual sins, liars, thieves, murderers, and so forth none of what I have been stating is homosexual specific in the least which gave you no ammunition to throw at me. The reason why you answer none of the questions I ask you is because they require true answers you don't want admit to which you do have that right not to.
deacon21206 4 months ago
@deacon21206 You can't feed that B.S to me I know my history and clearly understand the bible. The only verses the deserve any mention is Leviticus 18:22 And the Sodom story.... So let see; Leviticus is laws wrote be Jews for Jews so if your Jewish then you can live by those laws.. Sodom wasn't a story about homosexuals man made that story about homosexuals. Attempted rape against Angles wasn't why the city was destroyed read the full story and the others do deserve any mention... Ask me why?
Tommy4503 4 months ago
@Tommy4503 If you want me to show you other scriptures. I sure can for you and explain them, but again I say you will write it off because you are programed to ignore what you don't want to hear. That mentality is what gets us to where we are now. Afraid of whatever opposes what we want to believe.
deacon21206 4 months ago
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@deacon21206 You can't feed that B.S to me I know my history and clearly understand the bible. The only verses the deserve any mention is Leviticus 18:22 And the Sodom story.... So let see; Leviticus is laws wrote be Jews for Jews so if your Jewish then you can live by those laws.. Sodom wasn't a story about homosexuals man made that story about homosexuals. Attempted rape against Angles wasn't why the city was destroyed read the full story and the others do deserve any mention... Ask me why?
Tommy4503 4 months ago
@deacon21206 You can't feed that B.S to me I know my history and clearly understand the bible. The only verses the deserve any mention is Leviticus 18:22 And the Sodom story.... So let see; Leviticus is laws wrote be Jews for Jews so if your Jewish then you can live by those laws.. Sodom wasn't a story about homosexuals man made that story about homosexuals. Attempted rape against Angles wasn't why the city was destroyed read the full story and the others do deserve any mention... Ask me why?
Tommy4503 4 months ago
I know damn well Donnie ain't hollering about somebody gay ... and he was the biggest fucking Lady on Sunday's Best!!!! SMFH!!!! it's ashame how some gays get so tied up in church that they wanna bash they own kind. Donnie booboo, yu gay yo damn Self. Point Blank!!
2008capricorn 1 year ago
I hear people accusing this preacher of not being real and that he is living a lie that is very judgemental well what I say to that is if you got proof bring it if not please take this advise and obey the word of God and turn from sin what he is saying is true don't misquote scripture and try to make this sin okay and remember this homosexuality is not in the kingdom of God you may find it in the church building but never in the kingdom of God remember romans ch.1 makes it clear
WEATHER44 1 year ago
Donnie may not be acting on it but he is still a gay man not having gay sex? One when two men bond in a physical & sexual way it can't be broken unlike two females two females can be broken unless they are hard core no dick.. Two men gay, bi, straight turn gay, Once you had dick your going to always go back for more its a connect unlike any other connection on earth it's just right no matter how many people tell you it not.. I know Donnie still sit alone and thinks about men it's in his nature
Tommy4503 1 year ago
Many of us are captivated and moved only by emotions...we can do all of this high talk and we even tell the truth but continue to live as filty dogs...Stop talking it and live it! Our people (especially us in the cogic) have mastered the art of "telling the truth" or "making it plain" or just talking "raw" LOL! but a lot of us are yet doing our own thing! HELP US LORD!!
psalmistdon 1 year ago
Donnie McClurkin is an idiot! A pentecostal, flaming, idiot. How dare he! But what can you say!?!? When you've been brainwashed, you can't help yourself. The Christian church is a cult...it has always been and will always be. I born and raised in the place. And I know. If the law were to investigate the Black Church they will discover the same abuses as the Catholic Church. The truth is, no one really know for a fact about anything. It's all BS and speculation. Good job Donnie, idiot!
jackandcoke420 1 year ago
Being delivered from Homosexuality is like being delivered from being black.He is just being celibant.If a person is truly delivered then they have not need to throw it up in peoples faces because people will naturally see that they are delivered.
lee77004 1 year ago
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Tommy4503 1 year ago
@Tommy4503 Absolutely nothing. Donnie McClurkin has a son. I'm married but I don't have children.
liftimyall 1 year ago
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Tommy4503 1 year ago
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@liftimyall That true and I feel so bad for making that statement because there are so many gay men and women that's married to the opposite sex and have kids. Look at Eddie Long and so many other men and women that are married with kids and having secret affairs because they are unhappy and lying about who they really are? There nothing wrong with being GAY he just should be honest with himself
Tommy4503 1 year ago
@liftimyall I feel so bad for making that statement because there are so many gay men and women that's married to the opposite sex and have kids. Look at Eddie Long and so many other men and women that are married with kids and having secret affairs because they are unhappy and lying about who they really are? There nothing wrong with being GAY he just should be honest with himself
Tommy4503 1 year ago
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eddie long is not a gay man, he is an ignorant man.
1souleagle 1 year ago
THIS IS A JOKE!!!
leolove 1 year ago
donnie is a living testimony to this, Who knows better then he dose AMEN PREACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SuperNewhorizon 1 year ago
PREACH IT
brauliocontreras0483 1 year ago
@teresadallen just because it was this decade doesnt mean that the man is still doing it right? i dont understand why you even mentioned him having a child. He said that it was wrong and thats the main point. Im not validating the pre-marital child. its not right. But that still doesnt mean that his words on here are true.and just like God lets your "yesterday" sins be forgiven AND forgotten when you ask, do the same for others. I wouldnt have even mentioned what happed a decade ago.
angelrj2005 1 year ago
McClurkin states that he has been delivered, who I are U to say that he hasn't unless u have witness him do other wise, remember U doubters, the same God that U claimed that has saved U can also do the same for Donnie and others for God shows no favortism toward any one, because one is married or unmarried proves absolutely nothing these days, we all know that, so instead worrying about some ones elses salavation, we need to make sure that we are saved, instead of trying to hurt others.
shadhom 1 year ago
@ SEFYH Donnie Mclurkin is not GAY! and you should be ashamed of yourself for saying that! you need to stop Judging people. and ask God to forgive you!
MsAnnointed247 1 year ago
Donnie Mcclurkin is GAY and so is over the men in that audience!
SEFYH 1 year ago
no let me set the record straight it is a process for God to change you and guess what.God is a mighty God and its not right for you to be judgin him and God is workin on him still
ChosenByJesus16 1 year ago
i don't know if i really wanna go there....i could say so much about this, but i won't....
jayeraye 1 year ago
iF DONNIE SO DELIVERED...WHERE AND WHO'S HIS WOMAN....YALL CAN SIT HERE AND GET CAUGHT UP IN EMOTION ALL U WANT...UNTIL I SEE A MARRIAGE WITH A WOMAN,HE STILL GAY AND YALL DEEP CHRISTIANS KNOW WHY I'M GOIN THERE.......I'M LISTENING
sylviacalhoun 1 year ago
@sylviacalhoun i know why you're going there....I could elaborate but it would be borderline judgemental so i won't...
jayeraye 1 year ago
@sylviacalhoun You need a woman to be classified as straight?
Jaycarl32 1 year ago
@Jaycarl32 actually NO!...but the point i was proving,all the gay church men i know that claim they delivered....i never see them with a woman,only amongst other gay men......the church is full of married gay man ,so i guess that was a dumb comment on my part,lol
sylviacalhoun 1 year ago
@sylviacalhoun lol, Well I wouldn't call it dumb, I would say ignorant.. I think this sitaution with Homosexuality and Lesbianism will never be brought under subjection... In the end I think it's just about your "true' revelation with Christ... I feel you though, a little lol. You can only hang with that crowd either to shwocase your testimony and to be a light or to flirt with it and still play...
Jaycarl32 1 year ago
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@Jaycarl32 actually NO!...but the point i was proving,all the gay church men i know that claim they delivered....i never see them with a woman,only amongst other gay men......the church is full of married gay man ,so i guess that was a dumb comment on my part,lol
sylviacalhoun 1 year ago
GOD is speaking!!! The anointing is so heavy on this clip! I watched it live the day of and the Lord ministered to me!
octaviusjames 2 years ago
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I was there standing in the choir stand......the Holy Ghost was in that place so heavy it was crazy!! and evverything he talking bout is the TRUTH
iMiNLOVELYKKCRAZii 2 years ago
i was there standing in the choir stand......the Holy Ghost was in that place so heavy it was crazy!! and evverything he talking bout is the TRUTH
iMiNLOVELYKKCRAZii 2 years ago
me 2
mzamn92 2 years ago