My iMac is as slow as a Windows and the OS crashes as much as Windows. But I didn't betrayed Windows. I hated Apple and I hate Apple even more now that I have one of their "wonderful products"... Seriously, ALL my Apple products are gifts from people who know I like computers. But I like WINDOWS COMPUTERS and I curse Apple for its interface that limits users capacities and for all the trend it has now that makes people think Apple makes the best computers in the world. Because they don't.
Macs don't crash ,this was an application crash.The only time a Mac crashes is when you have a bad hard drive ,ram ,or motherboard.PCs crash all the time from viruses,spyware,hackers.There is a difference.
@bobbyz23 then they crash.. it's like saying "a car doesn't crash unless it runs into something".. WELL NO DUH! Your 1st and 3rd sentence contradict each other. And PCs dont crash" all the time" from those. And thinking a Mac can't get a virus is HILARIOUS. Ignorant apple user..
@adiokidoable I've been using Macs for the last 7 years not one virus or reinstall caused by a crash.I'm not knocking PCs because i still own and use one,but as far as stability and security ill stick to a Mac.Also, im far from being ignorant i repair Macs and PCs so i cant be too dumb ,if you can afford it,buy a Mac ,and experience it,before you call someone you don't know an ignorant Apple user.
@adiokidoable By PCs i'm referring to windows but PCs is just a personal computer,but in this age the computer world labels windows computers,Pcs, and Apple Pcs Macs,no big deal.
@bobbyz23 A software crash is, by definition, a condition by which the software ceases to be able to continue proper execution. That is a crash. Perhaps you are thinking of an OS crash, in which case you still have the grey screen of death (the OSX kernel equivalent of Windows' BSOD) though admittedly more rare since Apple supports a more narrow range of hardware (thereby dodging a lot of hardware/driver issues that are the main cause for BSODs).
@I'm talking about both software and OS crash,all computers freeze/crash , Windows from my experience freeze/crash more often.Thats why you don't see the music/movie industry using Windows computers.They gray screen of death is prevalent but not as often,and is usually caused by bad hard drives ,or memory.In widows 90% of the time the crash,freeze,blue screen of death is caused by Viruses,Maleware,Spyware the list goes on.
@bobbyz23 You might want to study the music and movie industry a bit closer. I actually work in it as a designer/compositor and high-end productions aren't made on iMovies and not even that often on Final Cut Pro: they're made in packages like Avid DS and Fusion (Linux/Win). Lower end studios also tend to favor scalable hardware, since if you are a music/video professional, you'd realize it's pretty easy to bounce across operating systems.
@stinky472I'm not in the music/movie industry,im a computer tech i do repairs on both windows and macs.I've used all the major OS i still use Windows 7 daily ,but i have had a better experience with OSX.I just like the user friendy ,security and stablization of OSX.
@bobbyz23 ... and that, at the end of the day, it's about meeting budget, and scalable hardware is just downright cheaper and we need all the horsepower we can get when we're putting together composites at IMAX HD res. Sorry to burst your bubble but if you don't believe me, read up on Eyeon Fusion's list of projects. As for music, it's a bit more divided. Why do you think almost all DAWs offer both Win and Mac versions? It's because they're making tidy profits on both.
@bobbyz23 As for your list of malware, if you're so knee deep in spyware and viruses, BSODs, you might want to 1. stop downloading random things without a virus scanner. 2. invest in better hardware, since BSODs, like GSODs on OSX, are generally caused by kernel panics resulting from hardware failures (Apple is a good and closed hardware manufacturer and OS provider, they do avoid hardware issues better). Or stick to the Mac which I think is a perfectly legitimate choice for security.
@bobbyz23 Just to clarify, I'm not going to disagree that OSX is a good product, and Apple a decent (though slightly pricey) computer builder. There are definitely fewer security leaks on OSX and definitely fewer naughty developers seeking to exploit them. But on the other hand, when an OSX application crashes, it often does so in an unrecoverable way. That's worth noting in fairness, but the main thing I want to rectify are the movie/video editing myths since I work in that industry.
safari is a mac ??? this is only application but system is very stability. first wer of applications (x.0 or beta) getting so often crash this is normal, but my system didnt crach even if I had ver .1 ... in Windows crashing was popular while u're working on computer too long time without restart
This isn't a Mac crashing. You know what happens when a Mac crashes? Both CPU fans die, system overheats, computer is newly out of warranty. Happened on my 2006 MacBook Pro.
@markthema3 My mid 2007 MBP technically crashed three times along the same lines. I replaced the logic board twice myself. At that point it wasn't worth it anymore. It's sitting in a laptop bag with a practically new battery and power supply I just got last summer. :(
The original poster is right about his contention that Safari is a core application and should not crash on Apple hardware. Using Fagfox I would say that once a month FF stops and restarts itself, but it's also not a core application and has no idea what I have on my system.
@SenorCajones As much as I like Macs, Apple programmers aren't infallible and immune to logic and other various programming errors, regardless if they made the hardware or not. Programmers are human and mistakes are made and bugs will happen.
True, but Apple takes great steps to say otherwise, while bashing their competitors.I would at least expect Apple to meet the same level as their contemporaries, but history has shown (and continues to show)that Apple is the most flawed of them all. Bragging about "200 new features" in every new micro-update of their OS isn't going to hide the fact that OSX is a hacker's dream come true, and it won't erase the stain of Safari being crowned the world's most insecure browser.
@MaestroDraven Computers are all the same... I've had every OS I've ever used crash on me. Every Windows version, OS/2, Linux, BeOS, Mac OS, FreeBSD... I can't say I've had Solaris crash on me but I've had very limited use of it. I used PC's and Windows since the early 90's. I used a Macbook Pro as my primary system running OS X for the past 4.5 years and preferred it, but all the same major issues exist in OS X as they do on Windows. It's all the same hardware with the same faults.
Very correct. And I totally agree. It's not Apple's products I have a problem with. It's Apple's smug arrogance at claiming to be something they clearly are not.
@vabello That is a kernel panic. All that "gray screen of death" rarely comes up when your Mac is not responding and it starts to overheat a lot. It is not a big deal because you just restart in safe mode and if it doesn't happen again, restart and update your software.The only time it is dangerous is if it happens regularly. Then you may need new hardware or possibly a replacement computer.
@yoshisports01010 restart and update... So kernel panics mean you should update? What a great way of alerting the user. Hey, they need to update, give 'em a kernel panic and lose their work for the last three hours...so they do it now.
@SenorCajones No, if you have a kernel panic, which honestly is not a big deal. Sometimes rebooting allows you not to get it again. If a kernel panic does not occur then just make sure everything is updated and then you're fine. There are both hardware and software kernel panics on Mac.
@yoshisports01010 Yes, I'm very familiar with kernel panics on various operating systems. Years ago I had Mac OS X 10.4.x kernel panic on me several dozen times for months on end on a brand new Macbook Pro. Nothing was wrong with the hardware. It was a bug in the driver for the wireless card of the Macbook Pro. It could be triggered by talking to certain access points while using encryption and on battery. It was finally fixed in an update. This is my definition of a Mac crashing. Not an app....
@vabello Yeah, that can happen to. however, when I had my two kernel panics about 2 months ago on Lion, I was using Google Chrome and my Mac was overheating and nothing was responsive at all. The app itself wouldn't crash. Because of the overheating of my hard drive from using Google Chrome, my Mac crashed twice. I know you're not saying I am wrong and it seems we are reaching an agreement, but that is what happened to me. My point is that kernel panics can occur from more than 1 problem.
@yoshisports01010 Oh of course. The number one reason for an entire operating system to crash is due hardware faults. I was just pointing out that I had the most crashes of Mac OS X due to a driver bug. That was just my own personal experience.
@vabello Okay then. I'm curious to know if you are still using the same MacBook Pro that had the hardware bug. I have a MacBook with 2 GB RAM, 250 GB Hard Drive space, 2.26 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo. I used to have a Windows 98 desktop and it crashes from a virus. Then, my grandma was able to bring hers in to let us use it. Then, my mom messed it up and it crashed.
I have owned both for many years, lately a Macbook Pro and multiple either home built machines or Dell Laptops. Many of the things that I disliked about each one have been addressed over the years, but my largest annoyance goes to the Mac user that preaches or belittles those that are not willing to pay twice as much for the same thing. Also, the "I'm a Mac" commercials were so inaccurate that Apple should have been forced to release a statement of disclosure. MS never sunk that low.
APPLE CRASH TO >>>>BUT NOT SO FAST LIKE WINDOWS SHIT >>>I DON"T REMOVE THE WINDOWS BECOUSE I NEED TO WORK IN FL STUDIO 10 >>>and we know this softwere don't work on apple
Thats not a crash. That's like if your windows internet explorer is not responding you would choose to end program now. But it's not anywhere near a crash.
@MrThatdylan I'd revise that to lower/middle-end video editing. High-end productions often use software like Eyeon Fusion (Windows/Linux only) and require very scalable hardware (maximum bang for the buck, not exactly an Apple strength). As for scripting, OSX is arguably better: you got things like Python built in and immediately accessible from the Terminal but that's true of Linux as well.
macs crash all the time macs crash all the time macs crash all the time macs crash all the time macs crash all the time macs crash all the time macs crash all the time macs crash all the time macs crash all the time macs crash all the time macs crash all the time macs crash all the time
Thats not a crash. Hey at least the program quit. A real fail is when your in a hurry out the door and your pc browser locks, halting every other program currently running, even slowing down the task manager. Cars honking outside and no program response in sight. Something quirks on a mac, it disappears. Out of sight, out of mind.
as shitty as vista is i've yet to have the os completely crash yes programs but never the system and i leave it on 24/7 unless it requires a restart for new drivers etc . i've had explorer become so slow that i've needed to close it and restart it but if you have any intelligence you know how to restart it with task manager
you douche bag, everyone who is sane has said it, 1 your mac never crashed, safari did and 2 as a windows user and builder of PC's for many years before going to mac, Mac is far superior and the fail rate in far less. I do get problems sometimes, but compared to windows its 1%.....i can live with that, even if you cant.
Safari quit, HOLY F*CKING F*CK SAFARI JUST F*CKING QUIT! SON OF A BI*CH I HAVE TO RESTART THE APPLICATION? HOLY SH*T! I CANT BELIEVE I HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS BULL F*CK A*S SH*T FROM APPLE. dude calm down, even windows crashes sometimes XD
Mac fans: stop comparing old Windows Xp PCs that are 8 years old with brand new Macs... Windows 7 was very stable and showed many improvements even with the beta. Windows 8 is going to top that with the new secure boot manager, overhauled clean UI/Kernal, and an awesome 10 second boot time. It's gonna take dos support out of the picture and make it a super secure/stable OS.
It's called a KERNEL PANIC! The kernel does panic, and the system reboots unexpectedly. After this happens, you piss your pants, cry, and when you get better, call someone like me to remedy the situation. Learn about PCs please.
Apple themselves say that applications have the same chance of crashing on OSX as they do on Windows, the difference being that they don't take the entire system with them, which is all too common with Windows.
@gcalvanetten Smart one... starting with windows 2000, you had no need to restart your computer when a app crashes, no need for the crash to take the entire system with it. Any thing before Windows 2000 is oudated and unstable and shouldn't be unfairly compared to a new mac.
@gcalvanetten Hm. I've had some applications crash in wondows for sure. But nothing that ever took the entire system down. And I've had some big programs crash. After Effects, Premiere Pro, 3DS Max, just to name a few. But not a one of them has ever affected the ENTIRE OS.
Then again, I run a well maintained and clean computer.
@gcalvanetten You're deluded. Totally. The opposite is true. I've been working with Macs and PC's since 1998 and most of the problems now are with Macs. Earlier it was about even. Now it's macs doing things that are just freaky, like having problems with a DVD because it has a speck of dust on it. Meanwhile a DVD that looks like it was sandpapered plays flawlessly in a Windows machine. Same with Pshop, crashes with a 12 mb file...windows version edits it in three minutes.
The only time I had a BSOD was when my dad dropped a cable in the pond and the fuse blew. I restarted the system twice after power was back and the second time Win XP ran normally. That was the only time in 8 years.
Also, Macs don't take advantage of page files. This means whenever a Mac runs out of usable ram, it can't borrow from the Hard Drive/SSD, it will crash.
@DsiWiiReview hey, take in the fact that my bitchin awesome Imac has massive amounts of RAM and 1 Terabyte of overall memory, that's going to take pretty much every application I have PLUS SOME to crash
@lgmmrm You mean that massive 4-6gb average??? In order to get that massive amount of ram you have to spend 3 times the amount on a mac than a pc with the same amount of ram. but in the end, the value of a Pc will always beat mac.
I'm sick of Mac fanboys that don't know anything. All computers get viruses, no matter how well the security is worked on. Hackers are so much smarter than the retards at Apple that they could take down any security patch they give them. Microsoft is forced to release patches all the time because they hold around 90% of the market, therefore, they get viruses more often. Its plain and simple. All computers will get viruses.
@DsiWiiReview Not completely true. All computers are POTENTIALLY susceptible to viruses and malware. But as of right now, there are no real viruses that OS X is vulnerable to. That is not to say that won't change tomorrow.
@noblejeanz the reason for that is you guys don't get superuser access, which most people get on windows xp, so when you guys do something stupid it doesn't affect your mac completely, however, if you did have superuser access it'd be different this is why you guys are limited, think about this way, you guys are retards playing with safety scissors without blades, of course you won't get hurt, meanwhile us linux and windows users are using machetes(about 90% of windows users shouldn't)
@GalvanizeTheBody In Windows 7, there is User Account Control (UAC). If used correctly, it would protect PC users from the effects of Malware (Malicious Software - includes viruses). But since PC users want everything so easy, they just don't take the time to create a Standard User Account. Instead they use an Administrator Account. In Windows, the first account created by the user is an Administrator Account. It is part of the Administrator Group.
@Ominorvas Crackers write script into viruses that grant it root access without user input. You think that a cracker is going to get you to DL a virus and then include instructions to help the normie to grant it root?? Common sense truly does prevail!
@Ominorvas Oh... Well I run a couple Linux Distro's on my VMware 8.0.1. also. I have Ubuntu Satanic Edition, Mac 10.7.2( I know, not Linux), Slackware(which was a bitch to set up), and Backtrack 5. Honestly, Mac was the one that stumped me, I had to Google it and eventually just looked up a Youtube video. What a pain in the ass Mac is though. I prefer Linux over Mac all day!
@DsiWiiReview thats why I hav AVG on my PC, Mac, and Linux. even though linux has viruses that have been patched, I dont believe them. So yeah every PC I have has an antivirus, until I use my own (making it for mac)...its ok, I already made like 5 viruses for mac.
That doesn't mean that your computer was safe from malware. I think that's what he meant: OS X had and certainly still has huge security leaks through which one might push malicious code. It's just that professional malware authors don't care so much about the Mac market.
Therefore your protection isn't ensured by Apple's programmers but by Apple's low market share.
@DsiWiiReview All computers get viruses, true. There just isn't many viruses for macintosh based computers, why would there be? after all, most of the market runs windows. The hackers do it for the money.
@macbookfan33 The hackers do it for the money? Who pays them? Apple? And neither my computer, nor any that I've administered has EVER gotten a virus or malware...and no, I don't use any special software for that result.
@beutler99 same here! there have never been any problems with my windows, while I know a guy who has an iMac that crashed while doing some video editing..
Yup, the Mac didn't crash, only safari did. At least Safari crashed and saved me a lot of time instead of IE which will just wait at a error and wait and wait and wait and wait. My Mac crashed on me once while I was rendering a Final Cut project in HD. It was my trusty PowerBook G4 and it overheated to about 110 degrees celsius causing a kernel panic and emergency shutdown. It survived.
One application crashed, and the rest of the system was fine. So basically you've just proven the point of people saying macs rarely/never (although you can never say never) crash.
Macs themselves can crash, but this is what we call a rare occurance. the application message is usually due to a code conflict in said application and not necessarily to do with OS X itself. though OS X carries the app in question and runs it, the flaw in this case "safari" can be generated due to a plugin environment error, scripting error, etc. OOh.... what fun. lol
> 5 kernel panics since, one of which I was only running Pages.
Also, to the maker of this video, you're just as bad as the Mac fanboys who yell "WINDOWS SUX IT BLUSCREENS SO OFTEN"
The bluescreens are usually caused by a faulty driver, or something YOU added on that is failing. If I plug the exhaust on my car and it craps out, the car wasn't at fault for anything more than trusting the user has a brain. Windows does this, OS X doesn't. That's the difference. :)
@PeyRuoSong When the kernel fuck's up on a mac and it does happen it does not boot. The boot cd say's we cannot repair the HD back up your files and re-install mac :|... But yeah this is a app crash, you are right on that. On windows you can just repair the file that stop's it from booting... Rare on a mac to crash but it does happen.
@PeyRuoSong I had 2 system crashes on my mac in school, if I could make photos or a video of this (it isn't allowed, 'cause our teacher LOVE macs for live) i will try it. (sry for bad english)
All the dislikes are Mac users! Mac's in fact do crash! I remember using a Mac Classic in high school, all it was used for (by many students) was to type a Claris Works document, save to floppy, and print on another Mac Classic connected to a printer. And I couldn't count (maybe 60 times) that the Claris Works program would crash, and I'd love a 20 page typed report of some sort.
@talldude123 You're talking about a Mac Classic. The Mac Classic is, by far, much different than current Macs which run OSX. Just because you had a bad experience with a Mac back in high school, does not mean that current Macs much later down the line are as unstable.
Now, Macs are computers. And computers do crash, regardless of what system they are running. The important thing is how often it crashes, and that is what determines its reliability.
@the0real0realitykid Aside from crashing, Mac's are extremely overpriced. Everybody knows you can get a better spec PC for the same price as a Macbook Pro.
THE MAC DID NOT CRASH, SAFARI DID
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ole4961 1 day ago
Every people eat, but i eat less than Homer Simpson.
PeSTimE01 1 day ago
everything is going to crash at some point, but mac does it a lot less than every thing else.
EmilJohnsenCOD 1 week ago
@EmilJohnsenCOD *cough* Linux *cough cough*
MrVijfhoek 6 days ago
@EmilJohnsenCOD i agree, even the best computer will crash and die.
matthew65536 5 days ago
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my 2011 iMac crashes as hell especially with 10.7.3 update and i havent got a single crash with 2 years of windows 7
Vo0oOo0oV 2 weeks ago
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Vo0oOo0oV 2 weeks ago
mac sucks
YouMadXdevel 2 weeks ago
video = fail
CommitToFocus 2 weeks ago 2
My iMac is as slow as a Windows and the OS crashes as much as Windows. But I didn't betrayed Windows. I hated Apple and I hate Apple even more now that I have one of their "wonderful products"... Seriously, ALL my Apple products are gifts from people who know I like computers. But I like WINDOWS COMPUTERS and I curse Apple for its interface that limits users capacities and for all the trend it has now that makes people think Apple makes the best computers in the world. Because they don't.
thecameraguy12345678 3 weeks ago
To Mac Owners: All Mechanial Instruments Need Temporary Repair ;)
Brawler1100 3 weeks ago
Macs don't crash ,this was an application crash.The only time a Mac crashes is when you have a bad hard drive ,ram ,or motherboard.PCs crash all the time from viruses,spyware,hackers.There is a difference.
bobbyz23 3 weeks ago
@bobbyz23 then they crash.. it's like saying "a car doesn't crash unless it runs into something".. WELL NO DUH! Your 1st and 3rd sentence contradict each other. And PCs dont crash" all the time" from those. And thinking a Mac can't get a virus is HILARIOUS. Ignorant apple user..
adiokidoable 3 weeks ago
@adiokidoable I've been using Macs for the last 7 years not one virus or reinstall caused by a crash.I'm not knocking PCs because i still own and use one,but as far as stability and security ill stick to a Mac.Also, im far from being ignorant i repair Macs and PCs so i cant be too dumb ,if you can afford it,buy a Mac ,and experience it,before you call someone you don't know an ignorant Apple user.
bobbyz23 3 weeks ago
@adiokidoable By PCs i'm referring to windows but PCs is just a personal computer,but in this age the computer world labels windows computers,Pcs, and Apple Pcs Macs,no big deal.
bobbyz23 3 weeks ago
@bobbyz23 A software crash is, by definition, a condition by which the software ceases to be able to continue proper execution. That is a crash. Perhaps you are thinking of an OS crash, in which case you still have the grey screen of death (the OSX kernel equivalent of Windows' BSOD) though admittedly more rare since Apple supports a more narrow range of hardware (thereby dodging a lot of hardware/driver issues that are the main cause for BSODs).
stinky472 1 week ago
@I'm talking about both software and OS crash,all computers freeze/crash , Windows from my experience freeze/crash more often.Thats why you don't see the music/movie industry using Windows computers.They gray screen of death is prevalent but not as often,and is usually caused by bad hard drives ,or memory.In widows 90% of the time the crash,freeze,blue screen of death is caused by Viruses,Maleware,Spyware the list goes on.
bobbyz23 1 week ago
@bobbyz23 You might want to study the music and movie industry a bit closer. I actually work in it as a designer/compositor and high-end productions aren't made on iMovies and not even that often on Final Cut Pro: they're made in packages like Avid DS and Fusion (Linux/Win). Lower end studios also tend to favor scalable hardware, since if you are a music/video professional, you'd realize it's pretty easy to bounce across operating systems.
stinky472 1 week ago
@stinky472I'm not in the music/movie industry,im a computer tech i do repairs on both windows and macs.I've used all the major OS i still use Windows 7 daily ,but i have had a better experience with OSX.I just like the user friendy ,security and stablization of OSX.
bobbyz23 1 week ago
@bobbyz23 ... and that, at the end of the day, it's about meeting budget, and scalable hardware is just downright cheaper and we need all the horsepower we can get when we're putting together composites at IMAX HD res. Sorry to burst your bubble but if you don't believe me, read up on Eyeon Fusion's list of projects. As for music, it's a bit more divided. Why do you think almost all DAWs offer both Win and Mac versions? It's because they're making tidy profits on both.
stinky472 1 week ago
@bobbyz23 As for your list of malware, if you're so knee deep in spyware and viruses, BSODs, you might want to 1. stop downloading random things without a virus scanner. 2. invest in better hardware, since BSODs, like GSODs on OSX, are generally caused by kernel panics resulting from hardware failures (Apple is a good and closed hardware manufacturer and OS provider, they do avoid hardware issues better). Or stick to the Mac which I think is a perfectly legitimate choice for security.
stinky472 1 week ago
@stinky472 Thats it ,i can go on any website and not worry about getting a virus ,thus no downtime downloading drivers,software ,etc.Simple
bobbyz23 1 week ago
@bobbyz23 Just to clarify, I'm not going to disagree that OSX is a good product, and Apple a decent (though slightly pricey) computer builder. There are definitely fewer security leaks on OSX and definitely fewer naughty developers seeking to exploit them. But on the other hand, when an OSX application crashes, it often does so in an unrecoverable way. That's worth noting in fairness, but the main thing I want to rectify are the movie/video editing myths since I work in that industry.
stinky472 1 week ago
Well... the Macintosh Laptop did NOT crash, it was an application crash. It will happen on every system.
vidaction 3 weeks ago
hey on my mac imovie does that almost every day
Theapplecat100 4 weeks ago 2
your video....fail
DarthMufin 1 month ago
safari is a mac ??? this is only application but system is very stability. first wer of applications (x.0 or beta) getting so often crash this is normal, but my system didnt crach even if I had ver .1 ... in Windows crashing was popular while u're working on computer too long time without restart
apaczpl1 1 month ago
......at least it opens right back up when you click "Relaunch"
jjphel 1 month ago
macs dont crash 0482307402 times a day not for ever
MyVash12349 1 month ago
This isn't a Mac crashing. You know what happens when a Mac crashes? Both CPU fans die, system overheats, computer is newly out of warranty. Happened on my 2006 MacBook Pro.
markthema3 1 month ago
@markthema3 My mid 2007 MBP technically crashed three times along the same lines. I replaced the logic board twice myself. At that point it wasn't worth it anymore. It's sitting in a laptop bag with a practically new battery and power supply I just got last summer. :(
vabello 1 month ago
The original poster is right about his contention that Safari is a core application and should not crash on Apple hardware. Using Fagfox I would say that once a month FF stops and restarts itself, but it's also not a core application and has no idea what I have on my system.
SenorCajones 1 month ago 2
@SenorCajones As much as I like Macs, Apple programmers aren't infallible and immune to logic and other various programming errors, regardless if they made the hardware or not. Programmers are human and mistakes are made and bugs will happen.
vabello 1 month ago
@vabello very true
Discofreestyle 1 month ago
@vabello
True, but Apple takes great steps to say otherwise, while bashing their competitors.I would at least expect Apple to meet the same level as their contemporaries, but history has shown (and continues to show)that Apple is the most flawed of them all. Bragging about "200 new features" in every new micro-update of their OS isn't going to hide the fact that OSX is a hacker's dream come true, and it won't erase the stain of Safari being crowned the world's most insecure browser.
MaestroDraven 1 month ago
@MaestroDraven Computers are all the same... I've had every OS I've ever used crash on me. Every Windows version, OS/2, Linux, BeOS, Mac OS, FreeBSD... I can't say I've had Solaris crash on me but I've had very limited use of it. I used PC's and Windows since the early 90's. I used a Macbook Pro as my primary system running OS X for the past 4.5 years and preferred it, but all the same major issues exist in OS X as they do on Windows. It's all the same hardware with the same faults.
vabello 1 month ago
@vabello
Very correct. And I totally agree. It's not Apple's products I have a problem with. It's Apple's smug arrogance at claiming to be something they clearly are not.
MaestroDraven 1 month ago
If that's what you call a Mac crashing, you've obviously never experienced the gray screen of death in all of it's glorious languages.
vabello 1 month ago
@vabello That is a kernel panic. All that "gray screen of death" rarely comes up when your Mac is not responding and it starts to overheat a lot. It is not a big deal because you just restart in safe mode and if it doesn't happen again, restart and update your software.The only time it is dangerous is if it happens regularly. Then you may need new hardware or possibly a replacement computer.
yoshisports01010 1 month ago
@yoshisports01010 restart and update... So kernel panics mean you should update? What a great way of alerting the user. Hey, they need to update, give 'em a kernel panic and lose their work for the last three hours...so they do it now.
SenorCajones 1 month ago
@SenorCajones No, if you have a kernel panic, which honestly is not a big deal. Sometimes rebooting allows you not to get it again. If a kernel panic does not occur then just make sure everything is updated and then you're fine. There are both hardware and software kernel panics on Mac.
yoshisports01010 1 month ago
@yoshisports01010 Yes, I'm very familiar with kernel panics on various operating systems. Years ago I had Mac OS X 10.4.x kernel panic on me several dozen times for months on end on a brand new Macbook Pro. Nothing was wrong with the hardware. It was a bug in the driver for the wireless card of the Macbook Pro. It could be triggered by talking to certain access points while using encryption and on battery. It was finally fixed in an update. This is my definition of a Mac crashing. Not an app....
vabello 1 month ago
@vabello Yeah, that can happen to. however, when I had my two kernel panics about 2 months ago on Lion, I was using Google Chrome and my Mac was overheating and nothing was responsive at all. The app itself wouldn't crash. Because of the overheating of my hard drive from using Google Chrome, my Mac crashed twice. I know you're not saying I am wrong and it seems we are reaching an agreement, but that is what happened to me. My point is that kernel panics can occur from more than 1 problem.
yoshisports01010 1 month ago
@yoshisports01010 Oh of course. The number one reason for an entire operating system to crash is due hardware faults. I was just pointing out that I had the most crashes of Mac OS X due to a driver bug. That was just my own personal experience.
vabello 1 month ago
@vabello Okay then. I'm curious to know if you are still using the same MacBook Pro that had the hardware bug. I have a MacBook with 2 GB RAM, 250 GB Hard Drive space, 2.26 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo. I used to have a Windows 98 desktop and it crashes from a virus. Then, my grandma was able to bring hers in to let us use it. Then, my mom messed it up and it crashed.
yoshisports01010 1 month ago
@vabello *too. Sorry.
yoshisports01010 1 month ago
@vabello Totally true. Many times.
SenorCajones 1 month ago
did you use a real error, or did you just created it in applescript
Mifas100 1 month ago
mac>windows same thing it depends on custom shit
Wiiplayer451 1 month ago
I have owned both for many years, lately a Macbook Pro and multiple either home built machines or Dell Laptops. Many of the things that I disliked about each one have been addressed over the years, but my largest annoyance goes to the Mac user that preaches or belittles those that are not willing to pay twice as much for the same thing. Also, the "I'm a Mac" commercials were so inaccurate that Apple should have been forced to release a statement of disclosure. MS never sunk that low.
rsh0763 1 month ago
APPLE CRASH TO >>>>BUT NOT SO FAST LIKE WINDOWS SHIT >>>I DON"T REMOVE THE WINDOWS BECOUSE I NEED TO WORK IN FL STUDIO 10 >>>and we know this softwere don't work on apple
MsGrandHustler 1 month ago
Thats not a crash. That's like if your windows internet explorer is not responding you would choose to end program now. But it's not anywhere near a crash.
PurpleFurryFox77 1 month ago
ALL computers get viruses
the only thing is almost nobody makes viruses for macs.
if everyone would make viruses for macs instead of windows then windows sucks
all computers are great for some things
apple:video editing
windows:games,scripting
linux:IDK
MrThatdylan 2 months ago
@MrThatdylan I'd revise that to lower/middle-end video editing. High-end productions often use software like Eyeon Fusion (Windows/Linux only) and require very scalable hardware (maximum bang for the buck, not exactly an Apple strength). As for scripting, OSX is arguably better: you got things like Python built in and immediately accessible from the Terminal but that's true of Linux as well.
stinky472 1 week ago
APPLE FAIL, MAC FAIL, MICROSOFT WIN
NIKOenigmaFAN 2 months ago
@NIKOenigmaFAN I think you got that switched around by mistake. You see it's Microsoft fail, Apple win, Mac win. You had it backwards.
PurpleFurryFox77 1 month ago
my mac crashes every now and then. When it does it just goes to the shutdown screen and restarts.
R3TRI8UTI0N 2 months ago
But huh what my PC does this all the time huh what hmm.
TrainorJon 2 months ago
noles900 2 months ago
@noles900 dont forget windows xp, since vista is better.
NullDeveloper 2 months ago
:| that doesent count
Rybcclubpenguinvideo 2 months ago
Sounds like this guy had a stroke or something. macs dont crash macs dont crash mac dont crash
TheBertMan11 2 months ago
I have an apple and it crashes and gets viruses all the time
smokyboom 2 months ago
Thats not a crash. Hey at least the program quit. A real fail is when your in a hurry out the door and your pc browser locks, halting every other program currently running, even slowing down the task manager. Cars honking outside and no program response in sight. Something quirks on a mac, it disappears. Out of sight, out of mind.
TokoGT 2 months ago
Application Fail! Dont OS
wegawoox 2 months ago
Appletards = Fail! i feel dirty saying this part... Windows FTW! :D
BigDirtyBasterd 2 months ago
as shitty as vista is i've yet to have the os completely crash yes programs but never the system and i leave it on 24/7 unless it requires a restart for new drivers etc . i've had explorer become so slow that i've needed to close it and restart it but if you have any intelligence you know how to restart it with task manager
cblazer 2 months ago
you douche bag, everyone who is sane has said it, 1 your mac never crashed, safari did and 2 as a windows user and builder of PC's for many years before going to mac, Mac is far superior and the fail rate in far less. I do get problems sometimes, but compared to windows its 1%.....i can live with that, even if you cant.
willmcgphoto 2 months ago
Even though you didn't crash a PC could smoke a mac mkay
dyl98dyl 2 months ago
Then download Firefox or Chrome idiot
ShadowHunter702 2 months ago
Safari quit, HOLY F*CKING F*CK SAFARI JUST F*CKING QUIT! SON OF A BI*CH I HAVE TO RESTART THE APPLICATION? HOLY SH*T! I CANT BELIEVE I HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS BULL F*CK A*S SH*T FROM APPLE. dude calm down, even windows crashes sometimes XD
TheGodOfBlocks 2 months ago
@TheGodOfBlocks noob
KiwiZap 2 months ago
Safari is an application. Running too much on it can cause it to crash every (not) so often
stewbot47000 2 months ago
Mac fans: stop comparing old Windows Xp PCs that are 8 years old with brand new Macs... Windows 7 was very stable and showed many improvements even with the beta. Windows 8 is going to top that with the new secure boot manager, overhauled clean UI/Kernal, and an awesome 10 second boot time. It's gonna take dos support out of the picture and make it a super secure/stable OS.
DsiWiiReview 2 months ago
It's called a KERNEL PANIC! The kernel does panic, and the system reboots unexpectedly. After this happens, you piss your pants, cry, and when you get better, call someone like me to remedy the situation. Learn about PCs please.
jonvincent12 2 months ago
Where's this crash exactly?
invalidgeneration 2 months ago
The error reads that OS X is not affected. So the Mac hasn't crashed.
Kernel panics DO occur on Macs... about as often as BSODs occur in Windows XP. Which is "rarely". Or Win7, despite its bugs...
Thermodynamic 2 months ago
Apple themselves say that applications have the same chance of crashing on OSX as they do on Windows, the difference being that they don't take the entire system with them, which is all too common with Windows.
gcalvanetten 2 months ago 17
@gcalvanetten Smart one... starting with windows 2000, you had no need to restart your computer when a app crashes, no need for the crash to take the entire system with it. Any thing before Windows 2000 is oudated and unstable and shouldn't be unfairly compared to a new mac.
DsiWiiReview 2 months ago
@gcalvanetten Hm. I've had some applications crash in wondows for sure. But nothing that ever took the entire system down. And I've had some big programs crash. After Effects, Premiere Pro, 3DS Max, just to name a few. But not a one of them has ever affected the ENTIRE OS.
Then again, I run a well maintained and clean computer.
AndrewDeLong 1 month ago
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SenorCajones 1 month ago
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@gcalvanetten You're deluded. Totally. The opposite is true. I've been working with Macs and PC's since 1998 and most of the problems now are with Macs. Earlier it was about even. Now it's macs doing things that are just freaky, like having problems with a DVD because it has a speck of dust on it. Meanwhile a DVD that looks like it was sandpapered plays flawlessly in a Windows machine. Same with Pshop, crashes with a 12 mb file...windows version edits it in three minutes.
SenorCajones 1 month ago
@gcalvanetten
The only time I had a BSOD was when my dad dropped a cable in the pond and the fuse blew. I restarted the system twice after power was back and the second time Win XP ran normally. That was the only time in 8 years.
Steamer15hp 1 month ago in playlist Weitere Videos von iAlfred34
It doesn't have to be an OS to crash.
Ishcoa 2 months ago
The application crashed NOT the computer you MORON
djg093 2 months ago
>Browser quits
GUISE MAC FAGS ARE STUPID MY COMPUTER CRASHED.
shepherdserenity 2 months ago
hey, what did you expect when you spent your life savings on a white plastic sheet with a fruit on it. pc is better (in my opinion)
GodlikeGaming4life 3 months ago
macs do crash but only like 2% of the time.
Simplename64 3 months ago
Macs do crash macs do Crash Macs Do Crash Macs Do Crash
nhking4 3 months ago
Also, Macs don't take advantage of page files. This means whenever a Mac runs out of usable ram, it can't borrow from the Hard Drive/SSD, it will crash.
DsiWiiReview 3 months ago
@DsiWiiReview hey, take in the fact that my bitchin awesome Imac has massive amounts of RAM and 1 Terabyte of overall memory, that's going to take pretty much every application I have PLUS SOME to crash
lgmmrm 2 months ago
@lgmmrm You mean that massive 4-6gb average??? In order to get that massive amount of ram you have to spend 3 times the amount on a mac than a pc with the same amount of ram. but in the end, the value of a Pc will always beat mac.
DsiWiiReview 2 months ago
I'm sick of Mac fanboys that don't know anything. All computers get viruses, no matter how well the security is worked on. Hackers are so much smarter than the retards at Apple that they could take down any security patch they give them. Microsoft is forced to release patches all the time because they hold around 90% of the market, therefore, they get viruses more often. Its plain and simple. All computers will get viruses.
DsiWiiReview 3 months ago 38
@DsiWiiReview Not completely true. All computers are POTENTIALLY susceptible to viruses and malware. But as of right now, there are no real viruses that OS X is vulnerable to. That is not to say that won't change tomorrow.
mynewromantica 3 months ago
@DsiWiiReview Don't start attacking Apple. It's the user's fault if they get a virus. 100% of the time. Apple users are still safer though.
Also, hackers are not the people who make viruses.
In regard to the video, everything crashes once in a while. Get used to it. It is impossible to handle every single error when writing code.
UnoriginalUsername06 2 months ago
@DsiWiiReview sure! Pc's get more viruses... another reason for buying a mac! :D
weichtierchen 2 months ago
@DsiWiiReview Tell those bitches >:D. SUCK MY BLUESCREEN OF DEATH!
Transformersprime217 2 months ago
@DsiWiiReview Yes, they could, but there isn't any virus for apple yet. Show me one. Some experiments of malware, but no virus.
noblejeanz 2 months ago
@noblejeanz the reason for that is you guys don't get superuser access, which most people get on windows xp, so when you guys do something stupid it doesn't affect your mac completely, however, if you did have superuser access it'd be different this is why you guys are limited, think about this way, you guys are retards playing with safety scissors without blades, of course you won't get hurt, meanwhile us linux and windows users are using machetes(about 90% of windows users shouldn't)
GalvanizeTheBody 2 months ago
@GalvanizeTheBody In Windows 7, there is User Account Control (UAC). If used correctly, it would protect PC users from the effects of Malware (Malicious Software - includes viruses). But since PC users want everything so easy, they just don't take the time to create a Standard User Account. Instead they use an Administrator Account. In Windows, the first account created by the user is an Administrator Account. It is part of the Administrator Group.
tmarrero12341 2 months ago
@DsiWiiReview cause there smart to have a lot of patches so while pc guys will get frustrated on how many viruses they get and switch to mac
iventhegreat1 2 months ago
@DsiWiiReview Exactly.
Boundings 2 months ago
@DsiWiiReview Wait... Wait for it... UBUNTU!
Ominorvas 2 months ago
@Ominorvas lol, but it still has the potential of viruses, its just not common.
DsiWiiReview 2 months ago
@DsiWiiReview Sure, you can get a virus. It won't do anything, unless you directly give it root access. Common sense prevails!
Ominorvas 2 months ago
@Ominorvas Crackers write script into viruses that grant it root access without user input. You think that a cracker is going to get you to DL a virus and then include instructions to help the normie to grant it root?? Common sense truly does prevail!
burnrider2001 2 months ago
@burnrider2001 Ah. Well I've not used ubuntu for years anyhow. Too little compatability for games ;(
Ominorvas 2 months ago
@Ominorvas Just check out videos of hackers pwning Macs at Defcon. It can be done.
burnrider2001 1 month ago
@burnrider2001 I'm not talking about macs though, I was talking about Linux :p.
Macs are easy.
Ominorvas 1 month ago
@Ominorvas Oh... Well I run a couple Linux Distro's on my VMware 8.0.1. also. I have Ubuntu Satanic Edition, Mac 10.7.2( I know, not Linux), Slackware(which was a bitch to set up), and Backtrack 5. Honestly, Mac was the one that stumped me, I had to Google it and eventually just looked up a Youtube video. What a pain in the ass Mac is though. I prefer Linux over Mac all day!
burnrider2001 1 month ago
@DsiWiiReview thats why I hav AVG on my PC, Mac, and Linux. even though linux has viruses that have been patched, I dont believe them. So yeah every PC I have has an antivirus, until I use my own (making it for mac)...its ok, I already made like 5 viruses for mac.
NullDeveloper 2 months ago
@DsiWiiReview Yes but there aren't any well known viruses for Mac.
desenagrator 1 month ago
@DsiWiiReview
apart from Linux, itn has very very very few viruses in existance
so... no it does not
i have been using it for 1 1/2 years with virus protection and have not gotten 1 single virus
ZTrasher 1 month ago
@ZTrasher
That doesn't mean that your computer was safe from malware. I think that's what he meant: OS X had and certainly still has huge security leaks through which one might push malicious code. It's just that professional malware authors don't care so much about the Mac market.
Therefore your protection isn't ensured by Apple's programmers but by Apple's low market share.
generischernutzer 1 month ago
@DsiWiiReview All computers get viruses, true. There just isn't many viruses for macintosh based computers, why would there be? after all, most of the market runs windows. The hackers do it for the money.
macbookfan33 1 month ago
@macbookfan33 The hackers do it for the money? Who pays them? Apple? And neither my computer, nor any that I've administered has EVER gotten a virus or malware...and no, I don't use any special software for that result.
SenorCajones 1 month ago
@SenorCajones Your credit card information that you've entered on a gazillion sites is where they get their paycheck.
markthema3 1 month ago
Mac OS doesn't crash because it doesn't do shit
XBLChubbySkunk 3 months ago
clap clap clap you are such a genius...
alejandrosantos3 3 months ago
I've never had windows crash I have free av and I download many untrusted files
beutler99 3 months ago
@beutler99 Then you sir have a windows soilder on your hands
Roxen1462 3 months ago
@beutler99 same here! there have never been any problems with my windows, while I know a guy who has an iMac that crashed while doing some video editing..
TheSteini96 3 months ago
Look I use windows and I honestly like them better but I agree that that doesn't count as a crash
beutler99 3 months ago
Macs don't crash, but some applications do.
Dumbass.
TNTMinister 3 months ago
I think that this film is your biggest lie :D Of course they do and windows rules that's all i wanna say to people.
SuperMendax 3 months ago
Yup, the Mac didn't crash, only safari did. At least Safari crashed and saved me a lot of time instead of IE which will just wait at a error and wait and wait and wait and wait. My Mac crashed on me once while I was rendering a Final Cut project in HD. It was my trusty PowerBook G4 and it overheated to about 110 degrees celsius causing a kernel panic and emergency shutdown. It survived.
86123maxxi 3 months ago
All operating systems with graphical user interfaces crash or have applications that crash, whether it be Windows, Linux or Mac etc.
MarrkDaviid 3 months ago
261 people are Fucking Gay Mac lovers fan boys
Abrahandsome3200 3 months ago
But the it was SAFARI, thats an program from Apple!!! At my PC the Internet Explorer doesn´t crash!!!
TheHIROs09 3 months ago
One application crashed, and the rest of the system was fine. So basically you've just proven the point of people saying macs rarely/never (although you can never say never) crash.
limetang 3 months ago
Macs themselves can crash, but this is what we call a rare occurance. the application message is usually due to a code conflict in said application and not necessarily to do with OS X itself. though OS X carries the app in question and runs it, the flaw in this case "safari" can be generated due to a plugin environment error, scripting error, etc. OOh.... what fun. lol
turningbytouch 3 months ago
The computer didn't crash. Macs DO NOT CRASH. Sometimes Safari just quits unexpectedly. NOT A CRASH.
wacky757 3 months ago
@ItsAggieTime The old Apples didn't have power switches, and keyboard power buttons weren't effective back in the days :P
izlude2 3 months ago
Um. The computer is perfectly fine? Get a life, windows user.
shiamecreaters 3 months ago
Damn, you who uploaded this is an idiot. The application crashed douche. Stop hating on Mac.
Nonsequitor415 3 months ago
you dont fail you dont fail you dont fail, oohw wait you just did!
Shriv 3 months ago
it didn't crash.. It "quit"
I HATE APPLE!!!
THEY'RE OVERPRICED!!!
Treyzania 3 months ago
too dumb to use mac
nukex1989 3 months ago
I remember you actually had to "unplug" the Mac when it crashed xD System 6, I love you... bwahahahaha.
izlude2 3 months ago
So stupid ! Second line tells everything!
deew1988 3 months ago
Read the 2nd sentence!!
"Mac OS X and other applications are not affected."
iAlfred34 failed.
spore637 3 months ago 55
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epikppl101 3 months ago
Funny how you chose not to read the second line of the popup box.
savas1212 3 months ago 2
> Buy new MBP15 a month ago
> 5 kernel panics since, one of which I was only running Pages.
Also, to the maker of this video, you're just as bad as the Mac fanboys who yell "WINDOWS SUX IT BLUSCREENS SO OFTEN"
The bluescreens are usually caused by a faulty driver, or something YOU added on that is failing. If I plug the exhaust on my car and it craps out, the car wasn't at fault for anything more than trusting the user has a brain. Windows does this, OS X doesn't. That's the difference. :)
whyhellodar 3 months ago
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programmasters 3 months ago
Every computer will eventually crash, macs and windows tend to last long, depending on the model.
BlackOfTheWest 3 months ago
I have had my PC for a year, and it hasn't crashed once.
I went on a apple computer at my friends house and it froze up completely.
lovesthecity3 3 months ago
Lol of course they crash, they're computers. Computers crash. What's so difficult to comprehend here? (coming from BOTH a Mac and PC user)
kippis05 3 months ago
Lmao, this guy has a funny voice. I was laughing from beginning to the end of this video!
albokid52 3 months ago
MACS DON'T CRASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hammerrox1 3 months ago
that's no crash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hammerrox1 3 months ago
MACS DO CRASH
XtremeConnor 3 months ago
Apple iNdoctrination
t1czer 3 months ago
and internet explorer for windows doesn't crash? Gtfo youtube twat
Deeharok 3 months ago
a crash is a kernel panic this not u noob
kylepohsib 3 months ago
It's an application crash not a kernel panic (System Crash)
PeyRuoSong 3 months ago 44
@PeyRuoSong When the kernel fuck's up on a mac and it does happen it does not boot. The boot cd say's we cannot repair the HD back up your files and re-install mac :|... But yeah this is a app crash, you are right on that. On windows you can just repair the file that stop's it from booting... Rare on a mac to crash but it does happen.
curemymind 3 months ago
@PeyRuoSong I had 2 system crashes on my mac in school, if I could make photos or a video of this (it isn't allowed, 'cause our teacher LOVE macs for live) i will try it. (sry for bad english)
BlackCookie1000 3 months ago
@PeyRuoSong so macs dont crash,they just panic,much like the user
Gmc42082 2 months ago
MAXDUNTKRASHMAXDUNTKRASHMAXDUNTCRASH,
Rehanandalex 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
you are a fucking idiot.
Themightyfinder1 3 months ago
All OS crash, its how that particular system handles the crash, that makes it special :)
GinoBrand5 3 months ago
I have Lion and no problem at all. iMac 27" Intel Core i5
Buzz135 3 months ago
All the dislikes are Mac users! Mac's in fact do crash! I remember using a Mac Classic in high school, all it was used for (by many students) was to type a Claris Works document, save to floppy, and print on another Mac Classic connected to a printer. And I couldn't count (maybe 60 times) that the Claris Works program would crash, and I'd love a 20 page typed report of some sort.
talldude123 3 months ago
@talldude123 You're talking about a Mac Classic. The Mac Classic is, by far, much different than current Macs which run OSX. Just because you had a bad experience with a Mac back in high school, does not mean that current Macs much later down the line are as unstable.
Now, Macs are computers. And computers do crash, regardless of what system they are running. The important thing is how often it crashes, and that is what determines its reliability.
the0real0realitykid 3 months ago
@the0real0realitykid Aside from crashing, Mac's are extremely overpriced. Everybody knows you can get a better spec PC for the same price as a Macbook Pro.
talldude123 3 months ago
Maybe cuz you shut Safari down?
10newsrox 3 months ago
You wanna talk about fail? You just showed that you don't even know what crashing is. Ouch.
imapieface 3 months ago
crappy MAC ! BSD RULES !
mptrax 3 months ago