What is the big deal? If there was anyone else on drums this would not be Pelican. If you would like to listen to a band that isn't Pelican, scroll up for the search bar please.
something is wrong with this picture. some of you take the time to critique the drummer, yet he seems to be the reason why you are watching/listening to this video. are you searching for flaws in an artist that has mastered his profession with such simplicity? you need to keep searching, because i feel that you're looking in the wrong place. take lars, for instance...i can't rate him, because his mouth cancels out anything he does on the drums. but i've heard of him.
Ok just heard about this band and as it is I'm not into instrumental bands....but I can at least recognize good music. But this.....WTF is this....i was waiting for the "oh shit" moment......they sound like some one ran in to a Thai Orphanage and mowed the place down with shit oozing guns. one word......Asstastic
My second favorite band. I just got the hoodie with their latest album artwork on it. It's quite something. Better purchase one only 2x large and small left. Anyway, i desperately would like them to be my number one but i can never seem to shake off porcupine tree. They're my fav post band. Although my top ten is 90% post rock lol.
got to try anyways! For an interest check out from my videos our band Dali and its song Woods. Its an old live demo made in rush for an interview we had. Just when we got things rolling our band member had to go to army and everyone had stuff going here and there. even though the quality it gives a hint of the bands hard and somewhat simple sound. now were among the living again and will soon blow the hell off the earth
the drummer's really improved on their most recent album, but...I in a way, I wish he hadn't ...I know plenty don't agree but I really enjoy the "rawness" of his playing...
@ObeseChess Tell me about it, mate. He's much more technically proficient on the most recent album, but the production polish has smoothed the edge off far too much...
How is it people think they can judge how good a musician these guys are from a youtube clip??? They are playin ONE song, probably partyin and havin fun, not sittn down doin their best to impress you tossers. Sad.
If you like Pelican you should check out the band ATOMIS you can download their song Maelstrom for free at this link: atomis.bandcamp. com obviously no spaces.
they are better musicians than you think, it may not sound so technical to you but everything they do is with purpose, they are trying to exude a certain sound.
@Fezetec Listen to Russian Circles, Its very similar to this kind of music and they SERIOUSLY have one of the best drummers in the world, soooo beautiful. Listen to Melee by Russian circles and you will know what i mean.
@85matt85 My first comment was filled with irony. I am actually listening to Russian Circles right now, and its alright. I can here some music in there, and they are miles ahead of this Pelican-shit.
@Fezetec This is absolutely awesome, for you to say the drummer is "the problem" goes to show you know absolutely nothing about any conceivable genre of music. The drummer is very skillfully controlling the pace of the song, if you've ever listened to this album even a noob like yourself would be able to tell the subtle changes/differences in pace, which are deliberate. The fact that he is doing this live with such a great deal of nuance and control makes your opinion completely invalid mate.
@sturtpot Never get the irony you big numnut... If you didnt understand, the whole band sucks, not just the drummer. Im sorry for you that you listen to this shit
And btw, ofc I can hear the drummer trying to pace his playing according to the pace of the song, but that doesnt mean that he doesnt suck at it...
@Fezetec I really did laugh out loud when you called me a numnut, it's an awesome word. I haven't heard that since I was back at school.
Unfortunately you fail again when you say that the whole band suck because there's nothing in this video that demonstrates that the're nothing but a tight unit both live and recorded.
I feel sorry for you that you will never ever appreciate their music as they give you a great musical experience, you're pathetic "irony" only reinforces the fact you are a noob
definitely the best instrumental metal band. instrumental music is different than music with a front man or vocalist the entire time. It is to be interpreted with your eyes closed. as if in a drone zone dream.
Yes, pelicans drummer does slow down and speed up. Yes, he's not the greatest drummer I've ever heard. But as far as I'm concerned thats fucking perfect. This band wouldn't have the same effect if they were really tight and on time to the millisecond. They're supposed to be a bit loose. A bit groovy. Get into it :]
I love this song, Pelican, and all the music they create. But I fucking don't like their drummer. He can't keep time worth dick; he speeds up, slows down, and just generally doesn't do things a good drummer should. If they replace him, they'd be unstoppable.
@fishyellis I beg to differ. Pelicans mouths are massive and deep....Pelicans sound is...fucking..gaping and massive :P fits perfectly as far as i can tell.
well that's not what people (at least not me) think of when they/I think of pelicans. It just doesn't sound right and if u have to think about it...idk. haha it's a good thought tho ;P
What the fuck is with (i)argueing...they are just a band..people making music...the fact that you compete bands in your head makes me really mad. Thye are being creative..writing good music...flow...something to listen to....now what are you doing? Coming here to watch them then criticizing.....wow throw a hot towel over your shoulder and call it a good game broski, while you make your way out to give the team some butt slaps, remember that everyone noticed you missed all your shots.
pelican and isis are the best bands to see live dude..check out my isis vids from a couple weeks ago...i didnt have enough camera mem. to record pelican but they were amazing..for little guys they whoop ass on there gibsons
The problem I had with both of their lives shows last week was that it was TOO loud. The human ear can only take so much. Both bands are very musically complex and intricate, but you lose that detail when the volume is up so loud that you can really only make out the rhythm.
I listen to community and student radio, its just I have to sift through shit like this to get to the good stuff. If it weren't for this crap, listening out for good ecclectic or experimental would be easier. You're just conforming to like minded others who will listen to ANY alternative to payola and consider it good. That's just not thinking for yourself. Guess what, there's bad top 40 music and there's bad indie. Just live in a bohemian city and you'll see.
if you cant handle hearing the occasional song you dont like maybe you shouldnt be listening to the radio idiot. and anyways why would you find the video if you didnt like them after hearing them on the radio. and to say that he is "conforming to like minded others" blah blah blah, wow, what kind of dipshit know-it-all says that. you do realize the same can be said about you and your taste for student RADIO, of all things, and the other shit you mentioned?
Chill dude, all I'm saying is you're a poser "faggot" with no taste in music who yaks with douchebag friends at cafes smoking cigarettes on the porch, is that so wrong?
yes your student/community radio is equal to pop radio, popular music. i do not let others decide what i listen to, no one ever told me about this band and im glad i found such great musicians. i like this and many other people like these jams. if you don,t the bite it you scum
It's not MY student radio dude, I didn't say I listen to it religiously. This Pelican shit plays on student and community radio, you just called your music pop. Come on, you're a fanatic like the rest admit it.
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Yeah but do you even play a fucking instrument? Because if you played guitar for a week you would find that these fuckers are easy shit and don't really invent any new sounds, there's a thousand bands just like them. They love distortion. You're just one of many dudes that are like "Yeah, gimme more of that shit 'rock on', yeah" but you don't even understand basic rock music. You and I both know you're part of a grunge metal fan base clique just admit it. I mean what other music do you like?
why yes i do play the guitar, and can play a bit of the drums. yes this band does have some easy music. but it doesnt have to be so intricate that you cant understand whats going on to be good music. its the WHOLE composition of the song that makes their songs so great. and to throw in some bands that i am into, it goes from a wide range. one minute ill listen to slayer then the next david bowie and then to some eazy e and back to some classic five stair steps. i listen to it all.
you're a fucking idiot, who cares if this band is "easy as shit", people don't care about how hard it is to play. it sounds good. you're one of those "my taste in music is the best" nerdy faggots that thinks they're so smart and their music is above the rest for whatever reason. music isnt a fucking competition. if it sounds good, its good music.
Yeah, but this recording is nothing like their live shows at all. I saw them in Dallas on Wed, May 20th, and it was awesome. their sound live is above studio quality.
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Never seen én live, but i can tell you this much; Best live band you can evere experience live is Voodoo Glow Skulls. Nevermind their albums and all that - Live they are brutal, fun, exceptional.
so brutal, the lead singer of this band is the audience yelling and growling at the shows, very healing, get the chills, and visual stuff for that ass bioch
Well I suppose you could start there, but their self-titled EP is (in my opinion) where you need to begin grasping Pelican's mastery. Without that first EP, Australasia might be too much for the average listener to appreciate. (Not trying to be elitist, but seriously Pelican *can* be an acquired taste.) Live, however, they will utterly ruin almost all other bands for you.
you made me laugh because you can't be serious about pelican being poop. maybe this non mainstream metal rock isnt your taste and you like crap on the radio.
Putting words into my mouth because I don't really care for Pelican is why I'm laughing. Hi, my name is "crap on the radio," thank you very much. Hell, Rob Halford loves Pelican and I love Halford. It's just an opinion, that's all.
it's hard for something to be overrated when the critics don't even bother rating it. Educate yourself you ignorant twat. Pelican is probably better than the shit you listen to.
it's true. the drummer isn't that great. when you listen to the music though, none of them are doing anything super spectacular. however, they still know how to write really smooth flowing songs, and they still know how to get an emotion out with their music.
they aren't brilliant musicians, but they are brilliant artists.
@BrendanAlborough You're saying they write easy to play but rhythmically challenging music because they aren't brilliant musicians? In my opinion, before you become a composer, you are a musician. And for a band to write music with complex harmonies and rhythms that hardly any other metal bands utilize certainly takes a deal of experimentation with their given instrument.
This band is awesome live. I've seen them four times and they had my ears ringing every time. Also, the venue was very small AND I was in front by the amps!
he sneaks in cool rifts that you have to hear like several times to catch. Like he does a high hat splash thing then two snare hits thats pretty cool that i thought was really different
word, i dont understand the hate on their drummer at all. he keeps tempo, sets a nice groove, and does some cool shit from time to time. this music is too sludgy for faster aggressive drumming. one of the few exceptions might be torche.
I'm strange... I hate constant repetition in music (obvious in hip-hop/techno/pop songs.. UGH)... yet I have no problem listening to Pelican and other post-rock/metal acts... meh
You'd be surprised how many flashy drummers can't get the basics right. This guy is very precise. He does his job, and he can be very skilled/fast/flashy as well. It's all about the feel, not how hard it is to play it!
i agree 100%. been trying to get a drummer for my band for ages now. we want someone similar to pelicans drummer. all i get is a bunch of tools who want to be the next chris pennie or some shit going off tempo all the time doing odd time signatures. chillll!
if you understand the music, then you can tell its all in the creation of the song, not how many notes you can hit or your long black hair. go listen to your blink182 nursery rimes..
Actually, Herweg is one of the best drummers ever. His drumming is organic, versatile, polyrhythmic and completely anti-mainstream. Anyone not recognising that knows shit about drumming and music in general. I can prove that on an abacus.
completely "anti-mainstream". LOL - what a joke. doens't matter what fucking stream it's in - good drumming is good drumming. this guy is OK in THIS video. maybe he's better but, surely you can't expect people to believe from THIS VIDEO, that he's even in the LEAGUE of some of what u call "mainstream" drummers lol.
Uh particularly on this song the drumming is supposed to slow and simple. There are songs though that do showcase the drummers talent, which don't be mistakened he does have, But on this song its just a lot of cymbals and bass drum.
His drumming is actually completely inorganic. Several observers thought they were hearing a drum machine. He is a decent timekeeper, but he has zero sense of dynamics. He plays in his own world, with complete disregard for the direction the rest of the band is moving in. Comparing him to Dave from Russian Circles is pointless, as Dave is a showy virtuoso. Instead, listen to some Red Sparowes records and see how David Clifford (and formerly Dana Berkowitz) held the sound together with fluidity.
I spoke to the drummer from Pelican last night and I was talking to him about people saying he's a crap drummer. He says he knows he's not flashy; that's the whole point. Pelican isn't about the drums, it's all about the riffs. He doesn't want to detract from them. I personally think his playing suits the song, which is the most important thing.
I can't say I agree with that philosophy. They're lacking the more common vocalist; a good drummer with technical skill is a necessity. I think he's more than adequate in complimenting his companions, but is the man intentionally holding back?
No. Pelican is awesome, but the drummer is one of the guitarist's brother, and if it wasn't for that I think they would have a better drummer and be a better band.
Nope, they're an instrumental band. Brilliant sounds. Particularly liking 'Spaceship Broken - Parts Needed' Check it out if you've not heard it before.
Watching this video was the last nail in the coffin. Pelican, you're a great band, but you really need to find yourselves a new drummer before you can really live up to your potential.
This is what typical new death metal fans, or even "Musical snobbs" (as I like to call them )will hate experimental bands like Sunn O))), Portal, Axis Of Perdition ect. Because as it is with film, if something is different it's looked down upon. I compaire films like Eraserhead are looked down upon by film snobs.
Music is about having fun and expressing your vision through notes (fast or slow). Some people get it, some people don't.
the ppl that study music theories for years, will all ways know what will work. this is what m theories is all about! but this kind of ppl prefer to play more complicated music, and they mostly appreciated by other musician. and this is whats genre like prog and jazz are all about. and pelican is not experimental, in the post metal there are enough band to call it a genre. most of the pelican is prog not metal. so its expected for metal heads not to like it.
its to complicated to explain in a comment, there is a nice site named Progarchives read about math rock, post rock and post metal, read it in this order. post rock came out from math, the main difference is the drumming, and post metal is basically a post rock with heavy vocal and power chords.well its not exactly like this, there are more differences, but that's why i gave you the "link" :)good examples are ..
i know all those bands, but i'm not really interested in knowing which styles they are, i just think it's good music.. Isis is more like sludge metal though, in my opinion :)
you lost the point, the point is that its prog. does the genre matters? ye because if you like pelican, then you probably will like Isis witch is in the same genre. i get bored really easily, and i all ways look for new bands.
ps
there is a connection between sludge and post metal.
Bands want to have their own identity and in order to do that you need to experiment or look further back into their favourite bands' influences. Bands like Black Sabbath, Led Zepplin, Kiss, Pentagram, Iron Maiden, Misfits, The Accused, Ramones, Motorhead are all simple but they influenced metal and need to be studied in order to accomplish creating your own unique style.
Music should not be a compition. I feel a lot of newer Death Metal fans should realize that. They will say Cannibal Corpse is the best band but they hate Possessed because they are too simple. But I can gaurentee if you listen to a simple song from bands like Bolt Thrower, Autopsy, or even early rock or punk bands they will remember it all day instead of a typical Suffocation song that blasts the whole way through.
I look at it this way. Music is an expression and an art form. There are some musicians who can study music for years and yet never really know what makes certain music work. A lot of Death Metal fans (well newer Death metal fans) are very restricted into what they listen to. They feel if a band plays 300bpm and a million notes a song it's "Brootal" but as far as memorability or thought put into it....none what so ever.
What is the big deal? If there was anyone else on drums this would not be Pelican. If you would like to listen to a band that isn't Pelican, scroll up for the search bar please.
Side note, guitarist goes all out. Very cool.
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something is wrong with this picture. some of you take the time to critique the drummer, yet he seems to be the reason why you are watching/listening to this video. are you searching for flaws in an artist that has mastered his profession with such simplicity? you need to keep searching, because i feel that you're looking in the wrong place. take lars, for instance...i can't rate him, because his mouth cancels out anything he does on the drums. but i've heard of him.
jacklazzell 4 weeks ago
i personally could not picture this band with a different drummer.
jacklazzell 2 months ago
Ok just heard about this band and as it is I'm not into instrumental bands....but I can at least recognize good music. But this.....WTF is this....i was waiting for the "oh shit" moment......they sound like some one ran in to a Thai Orphanage and mowed the place down with shit oozing guns. one word......Asstastic
chuckcassady 5 months ago
My second favorite band. I just got the hoodie with their latest album artwork on it. It's quite something. Better purchase one only 2x large and small left. Anyway, i desperately would like them to be my number one but i can never seem to shake off porcupine tree. They're my fav post band. Although my top ten is 90% post rock lol.
greedbrigand 5 months ago
Not a fan they got me beat talent wise but i just cant get into these guys
Calibanstrain 6 months ago
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got to try anyways! For an interest check out from my videos our band Dali and its song Woods. Its an old live demo made in rush for an interview we had. Just when we got things rolling our band member had to go to army and everyone had stuff going here and there. even though the quality it gives a hint of the bands hard and somewhat simple sound. now were among the living again and will soon blow the hell off the earth
Hedon11 7 months ago
Am I a complete philistine for not hating the drummer?
I think he's perfectly ok.
gomperhooblet 8 months ago
KICKING ASSES!
GoGeR030 10 months ago
the drummer's really improved on their most recent album, but...I in a way, I wish he hadn't ...I know plenty don't agree but I really enjoy the "rawness" of his playing...
MrGuntherthecat 10 months ago
@MrGuntherthecat I hate how the drums are mixed on the new one.
ObeseChess 8 months ago
@ObeseChess Tell me about it, mate. He's much more technically proficient on the most recent album, but the production polish has smoothed the edge off far too much...
MrGuntherthecat 6 months ago
THIS SHIT IS TIGHT THATS WHAT KIND OF MUSIC I LOVE PLAYING WHEN I MESS AROUND ON MY GUITAR. so sick
y890x 10 months ago
i couldn't imagine playing this kind of music in broad daylight. that would be so weird to me.
castrovania 10 months ago
How is it people think they can judge how good a musician these guys are from a youtube clip??? They are playin ONE song, probably partyin and havin fun, not sittn down doin their best to impress you tossers. Sad.
JPCODE 1 year ago 12
If you like Pelican you should check out the band ATOMIS you can download their song Maelstrom for free at this link: atomis.bandcamp. com obviously no spaces.
Merrylin 1 year ago
they are better musicians than you think, it may not sound so technical to you but everything they do is with purpose, they are trying to exude a certain sound.
Sabsterino 1 year ago 4
a keservit
doukissa11 1 year ago
Ye, the drummer is the problem...
Fezetec 1 year ago
@Fezetec Listen to Russian Circles, Its very similar to this kind of music and they SERIOUSLY have one of the best drummers in the world, soooo beautiful. Listen to Melee by Russian circles and you will know what i mean.
85matt85 1 year ago
@85matt85 My first comment was filled with irony. I am actually listening to Russian Circles right now, and its alright. I can here some music in there, and they are miles ahead of this Pelican-shit.
Fezetec 1 year ago
@Fezetec This is absolutely awesome, for you to say the drummer is "the problem" goes to show you know absolutely nothing about any conceivable genre of music. The drummer is very skillfully controlling the pace of the song, if you've ever listened to this album even a noob like yourself would be able to tell the subtle changes/differences in pace, which are deliberate. The fact that he is doing this live with such a great deal of nuance and control makes your opinion completely invalid mate.
sturtpot 11 months ago
@sturtpot Never get the irony you big numnut... If you didnt understand, the whole band sucks, not just the drummer. Im sorry for you that you listen to this shit
And btw, ofc I can hear the drummer trying to pace his playing according to the pace of the song, but that doesnt mean that he doesnt suck at it...
Fezetec 11 months ago
@Fezetec I really did laugh out loud when you called me a numnut, it's an awesome word. I haven't heard that since I was back at school.
Unfortunately you fail again when you say that the whole band suck because there's nothing in this video that demonstrates that the're nothing but a tight unit both live and recorded.
I feel sorry for you that you will never ever appreciate their music as they give you a great musical experience, you're pathetic "irony" only reinforces the fact you are a noob
sturtpot 11 months ago
These guys are sick
mehtabb1 1 year ago
the whole point is engagement. they are. are you? if not, go listen to your music and get another jar of vaseline.
durgAUMurge 1 year ago
2:55 man the guitarist sure does get into it hahaha
BrutalMastodon 1 year ago
Gibson sg's are amazing
mustbejames1 1 year ago
little too obsessed with the guitarist, but other than that good shit. he DOES know how to rock out, ill give him that
mustbejames1 1 year ago
definitely the best instrumental metal band. instrumental music is different than music with a front man or vocalist the entire time. It is to be interpreted with your eyes closed. as if in a drone zone dream.
bsidearmfar 1 year ago
Amazing song, this is one of the most creative instrumental bands I know. Thumbs up
Elthiso 1 year ago
check out a band called celestial machine on my space pelican is the gods of all post metal and callisto, and isis, and cult of luna
SymbioteVocalist 1 year ago
Yes, pelicans drummer does slow down and speed up. Yes, he's not the greatest drummer I've ever heard. But as far as I'm concerned thats fucking perfect. This band wouldn't have the same effect if they were really tight and on time to the millisecond. They're supposed to be a bit loose. A bit groovy. Get into it :]
richardario 1 year ago
THIS IS SOME GOOD SHIT HERE!
whoever111 1 year ago
I love this song, Pelican, and all the music they create. But I fucking don't like their drummer. He can't keep time worth dick; he speeds up, slows down, and just generally doesn't do things a good drummer should. If they replace him, they'd be unstoppable.
thudunder 1 year ago
Pelican is very fitting for their name. You have no imagination....Pelican will crush you with riffs!
SECtennesseeSEC 1 year ago
to band members of Pelican: good stuff, but why the hell is your band name Pelican? doesn't seem to fit your style of music lol
fishyellis 2 years ago
@fishyellis I beg to differ. Pelicans mouths are massive and deep....Pelicans sound is...fucking..gaping and massive :P fits perfectly as far as i can tell.
EoinMurMur93 1 year ago
well that's not what people (at least not me) think of when they/I think of pelicans. It just doesn't sound right and if u have to think about it...idk. haha it's a good thought tho ;P
fishyellis 1 year ago
@fishyellis Doesn't matter anyway. they're fantastic!! :D
EoinMurMur93 1 year ago
@fishyellis Why not?
dyingforacup12 1 year ago
U guys own!!! : p
pwnzXXmegz 2 years ago
no i do not beileive u are hahahaha
tsisme123 2 years ago
Am I the only one that is getting this song in the left ear phone? My right one is not blown out, it works with any other video. Strange lol
LiftYourSkinnyFist 2 years ago
@liftyourskyinnyfist: the same, i think it was recorded in mono.
ok, not exactly my kind of music...
AnakinSkySkater 2 years ago
@LiftYourSkinnyFist
Me too...
Shitnames 2 years ago
change your quality to 480p. fixed the mono thing for me
0howie0 2 years ago
@0howie0
Hmmm... yeah this new option made it better, but still its not 100% on both phones :-/
But still better.
Thx for info!
Shitnames 2 years ago
@ 0howie0
sweet! :D
Marsell88 1 year ago
Great angle, terrific job getting so close.
dvilified 2 years ago
this shit is badass!
ilovemyibanez 2 years ago
guoo!!!
great fucking music!!!
look the fucking guitarist!!!
awesome!!!
yesmoncuraca 2 years ago
One of the greatest songs I've heard from these dudes.
FIXEDbyFIXER 2 years ago
What the fuck is with (i)argueing...they are just a band..people making music...the fact that you compete bands in your head makes me really mad. Thye are being creative..writing good music...flow...something to listen to....now what are you doing? Coming here to watch them then criticizing.....wow throw a hot towel over your shoulder and call it a good game broski, while you make your way out to give the team some butt slaps, remember that everyone noticed you missed all your shots.
Bottlenek6 2 years ago 21
I love cheese burritos
DrinkingIsAGoodHabit 2 years ago
i also enjoy cheese based snacks.
jonnyrocketballs69 2 years ago
lol cheese based
I also enjoy fire and earth based snacks as well
water based is too complicated imo
SequelToThePrequel 2 years ago
LOL @ whining on the noob tube
eternalease 2 years ago
if you like instro rock/metal, check out 'the fucking champs'. great band.
bentnob 2 years ago
pelican and isis are the best bands to see live dude..check out my isis vids from a couple weeks ago...i didnt have enough camera mem. to record pelican but they were amazing..for little guys they whoop ass on there gibsons
shredmaster47 2 years ago
The problem I had with both of their lives shows last week was that it was TOO loud. The human ear can only take so much. Both bands are very musically complex and intricate, but you lose that detail when the volume is up so loud that you can really only make out the rhythm.
BubbaCoop 2 years ago
check out Dosius "Nuclear American Rain Dance" if you like instrumental music
dosiusmusic 2 years ago
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These guys suck. Noise. I'd rather listen to asparagus.
thedarkcommentator 2 years ago
obviously you do not have an appreciation for great music. go listen to your radio rock
ShowNoMercy87 2 years ago
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thedarkcommentator 2 years ago
I listen to community and student radio, its just I have to sift through shit like this to get to the good stuff. If it weren't for this crap, listening out for good ecclectic or experimental would be easier. You're just conforming to like minded others who will listen to ANY alternative to payola and consider it good. That's just not thinking for yourself. Guess what, there's bad top 40 music and there's bad indie. Just live in a bohemian city and you'll see.
thedarkcommentator 2 years ago
if you cant handle hearing the occasional song you dont like maybe you shouldnt be listening to the radio idiot. and anyways why would you find the video if you didnt like them after hearing them on the radio. and to say that he is "conforming to like minded others" blah blah blah, wow, what kind of dipshit know-it-all says that. you do realize the same can be said about you and your taste for student RADIO, of all things, and the other shit you mentioned?
lucasw122333 2 years ago
Chill dude, all I'm saying is you're a poser "faggot" with no taste in music who yaks with douchebag friends at cafes smoking cigarettes on the porch, is that so wrong?
thedarkcommentator 2 years ago
......whatever dude i give up, you can't argue
lucasw122333 2 years ago
haha thats some funny shit bro!
ilovemyibanez 2 years ago
yes your student/community radio is equal to pop radio, popular music. i do not let others decide what i listen to, no one ever told me about this band and im glad i found such great musicians. i like this and many other people like these jams. if you don,t the bite it you scum
ShowNoMercy87 2 years ago
It's not MY student radio dude, I didn't say I listen to it religiously. This Pelican shit plays on student and community radio, you just called your music pop. Come on, you're a fanatic like the rest admit it.
thedarkcommentator 2 years ago
then dont listen to it. simple as that. im no fanatic, i just enjoy the good grooves
ShowNoMercy87 2 years ago
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Yeah but do you even play a fucking instrument? Because if you played guitar for a week you would find that these fuckers are easy shit and don't really invent any new sounds, there's a thousand bands just like them. They love distortion. You're just one of many dudes that are like "Yeah, gimme more of that shit 'rock on', yeah" but you don't even understand basic rock music. You and I both know you're part of a grunge metal fan base clique just admit it. I mean what other music do you like?
thedarkcommentator 2 years ago
why yes i do play the guitar, and can play a bit of the drums. yes this band does have some easy music. but it doesnt have to be so intricate that you cant understand whats going on to be good music. its the WHOLE composition of the song that makes their songs so great. and to throw in some bands that i am into, it goes from a wide range. one minute ill listen to slayer then the next david bowie and then to some eazy e and back to some classic five stair steps. i listen to it all.
ShowNoMercy87 2 years ago
you're a fucking idiot, who cares if this band is "easy as shit", people don't care about how hard it is to play. it sounds good. you're one of those "my taste in music is the best" nerdy faggots that thinks they're so smart and their music is above the rest for whatever reason. music isnt a fucking competition. if it sounds good, its good music.
lucasw122333 2 years ago
FUCK they are incredible live. Not many bands can compare to this live.
LiftYourSkinnyFist 2 years ago
Yeah, but this recording is nothing like their live shows at all. I saw them in Dallas on Wed, May 20th, and it was awesome. their sound live is above studio quality.
Just have to see 'em
Felos 2 years ago
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Never seen én live, but i can tell you this much; Best live band you can evere experience live is Voodoo Glow Skulls. Nevermind their albums and all that - Live they are brutal, fun, exceptional.
Doyubi 2 years ago
you know who else likes pelican ...... God....
they inspired him to create mars i think... or maybe it was pluto...
since even he would tell us its a rock not a planet =]
DeLGatoxXx 2 years ago
ummm... the 'lead singer' of pelican? non-existent.
andr0neee 2 years ago
he meant the lead singer IS the audience hollering at the shows. lrn2read
clickca 2 years ago
thank you.
christ. i'm a fool
andr0neee 2 years ago
sounds good
3Hygeia3 2 years ago
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for those of u who dont know who BIG BUSINESS is u should check them out you'll thank me later
EECIEI 2 years ago
so brutal, the lead singer of this band is the audience yelling and growling at the shows, very healing, get the chills, and visual stuff for that ass bioch
cobra979 3 years ago 3
I want to listen to this song more in-depth. Isn't there a studio version around?
Gretgor666 3 years ago
uh, yeah man... it's on their first album: Australasia
PinkFloydrulez 2 years ago
Well I suppose you could start there, but their self-titled EP is (in my opinion) where you need to begin grasping Pelican's mastery. Without that first EP, Australasia might be too much for the average listener to appreciate. (Not trying to be elitist, but seriously Pelican *can* be an acquired taste.) Live, however, they will utterly ruin almost all other bands for you.
Spymagicianzero 2 years ago
PELICAN FTW!!!
my favorite song and album from them
AUSTRALASIA!!!!
byyours 3 years ago
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Pelican is good, but they are boring live, they are good to listen to in your car or room, but boring live.
But that kind of goes for any instrumental band because a singer is kind of an important connection with the audience.
Still a good band though.
sceneXedge 3 years ago
redshaftedflicker please go put a dick in both of your ears and while licking a red shaft. You are Ignorant as fukk
spell125 3 years ago
wikipedia has them as SLUDGE METAL and i think its fitting. the songs are long and heavy!! pelican is cool.
dalboy83 3 years ago
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It's called over-rated instru-poop.
redshaftedflicker 3 years ago
you made me laugh because you can't be serious about pelican being poop. maybe this non mainstream metal rock isnt your taste and you like crap on the radio.
dalboy83 3 years ago
Putting words into my mouth because I don't really care for Pelican is why I'm laughing. Hi, my name is "crap on the radio," thank you very much. Hell, Rob Halford loves Pelican and I love Halford. It's just an opinion, that's all.
redshaftedflicker 3 years ago
it's hard for something to be overrated when the critics don't even bother rating it. Educate yourself you ignorant twat. Pelican is probably better than the shit you listen to.
XxSconeManxX 3 years ago
Ignorance is XxxX, xxx, XXXX, or anything with an X in front of or behind your "name."
redshaftedflicker 3 years ago 3
lol, yeah what's with the influx of these XxxxXXXXxxxxX invalids.
ParableFunction 2 years ago
post-metal, post-doom...wtf cares?
great band after all!
ThyOpiator 3 years ago
They're Post Metal people, along with Isis, Neurosis, etc.
Song rules. The riffs at the end are out of this world.
AutumnIntoSummer 3 years ago
Post-pop....yeah...
Excellent band.
IconW 3 years ago
Post metal
RobcsiMobcsi 3 years ago
Post Rock
XxSconeManxX 3 years ago
its called POST-DOOM
maplerrr 3 years ago
its uncomfortable to listen to
drummerdude3214 3 years ago
stoner doom metal?
guayo18 3 years ago
i'm pretty sure it's sludge metal.
XxSconeManxX 3 years ago 2
Post metal. Stop creating bullshit genres and just all it what it is!
WordsOfZarathustra 3 years ago
it's true. the drummer isn't that great. when you listen to the music though, none of them are doing anything super spectacular. however, they still know how to write really smooth flowing songs, and they still know how to get an emotion out with their music.
they aren't brilliant musicians, but they are brilliant artists.
BrendanAlborough 3 years ago 11
@BrendanAlborough You're saying they write easy to play but rhythmically challenging music because they aren't brilliant musicians? In my opinion, before you become a composer, you are a musician. And for a band to write music with complex harmonies and rhythms that hardly any other metal bands utilize certainly takes a deal of experimentation with their given instrument.
Tengent 1 year ago
I fucking love this band, all the great stuff about metal without the ugly vocals.
And yeah, the drummer doesn't _look_ too great, but as far as rythym goes he does a good job.
AutumnOfPsi 3 years ago 2
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the drummer is weak to say the least
dogboywonder 3 years ago
God, how irritating guitarist!!
Zeuhlfish 3 years ago
stfu eurotrash.
ParableFunction 3 years ago
This band is awesome live. I've seen them four times and they had my ears ringing every time. Also, the venue was very small AND I was in front by the amps!
spooner0099 3 years ago
they shouldn't be playing when it's still light out ^^
this is one of their best songs in my opinion.
HamsterRapingBastard 3 years ago
just saw these guys last night, utterly stunning, IMO they've made singing obsolete ;)
ten4our 3 years ago 3
i love pelicans drummer
he sneaks in cool rifts that you have to hear like several times to catch. Like he does a high hat splash thing then two snare hits thats pretty cool that i thought was really different
hawkcwg 3 years ago
word, i dont understand the hate on their drummer at all. he keeps tempo, sets a nice groove, and does some cool shit from time to time. this music is too sludgy for faster aggressive drumming. one of the few exceptions might be torche.
GNARMYroly 3 years ago
For being self taught...Larry is great..
FlongDundee 3 years ago
does anybody know where to get pelican guitar tabs. ive tried almost everywhere and i really want to play some of their songs.
killerofu12 3 years ago
Try their forums, I think some people managed to tab some songs...
redfox1160 3 years ago
On their website try the Board.
redfox1160 3 years ago
thanks alot man
killerofu12 3 years ago
no problem
redfox1160 3 years ago
I'm strange... I hate constant repetition in music (obvious in hip-hop/techno/pop songs.. UGH)... yet I have no problem listening to Pelican and other post-rock/metal acts... meh
deadpisser88 3 years ago 4
ahahah same here
GNARMYroly 3 years ago
this would be good music to play guitar to
enfurno101 3 years ago
You'd be surprised how many flashy drummers can't get the basics right. This guy is very precise. He does his job, and he can be very skilled/fast/flashy as well. It's all about the feel, not how hard it is to play it!
blackfireINSANITY 3 years ago 6
i agree 100%. been trying to get a drummer for my band for ages now. we want someone similar to pelicans drummer. all i get is a bunch of tools who want to be the next chris pennie or some shit going off tempo all the time doing odd time signatures. chillll!
GNARMYroly 3 years ago
if you understand the music, then you can tell its all in the creation of the song, not how many notes you can hit or your long black hair. go listen to your blink182 nursery rimes..
ashidar 3 years ago 5
i would kill to be the drummer in this band...its all about feel and being precise...fuck off to all the haters..
fuckwhatdoyouwant 3 years ago 7
His drumming is basic, but I like it.
neuebedeutung 3 years ago 3
Actually, Herweg is one of the best drummers ever. His drumming is organic, versatile, polyrhythmic and completely anti-mainstream. Anyone not recognising that knows shit about drumming and music in general. I can prove that on an abacus.
HikoSeijuroXIII 3 years ago
im pretty sure mike portnoy or danny carey is better than this drummer. he doesnt sound that great.
SuitOfArmor 3 years ago
nah they have diff styles its all about the music they play i think but i would say brann dailor is better than the drummers u named
rarehound 3 years ago 2
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Ummm.... actually he's not that great. I'm mainly a guitar player but I can play and write better drum lines than this guy.
SkaBassist 3 years ago
completely "anti-mainstream". LOL - what a joke. doens't matter what fucking stream it's in - good drumming is good drumming. this guy is OK in THIS video. maybe he's better but, surely you can't expect people to believe from THIS VIDEO, that he's even in the LEAGUE of some of what u call "mainstream" drummers lol.
cpenga 3 years ago
Uh particularly on this song the drumming is supposed to slow and simple. There are songs though that do showcase the drummers talent, which don't be mistakened he does have, But on this song its just a lot of cymbals and bass drum.
TheOB212 3 years ago
His drumming is actually completely inorganic. Several observers thought they were hearing a drum machine. He is a decent timekeeper, but he has zero sense of dynamics. He plays in his own world, with complete disregard for the direction the rest of the band is moving in. Comparing him to Dave from Russian Circles is pointless, as Dave is a showy virtuoso. Instead, listen to some Red Sparowes records and see how David Clifford (and formerly Dana Berkowitz) held the sound together with fluidity.
iamntbatman 3 years ago
Their hearing isn't 20/20 anymore, I guess.
HikoSeijuroXIII 3 years ago
I spoke to the drummer from Pelican last night and I was talking to him about people saying he's a crap drummer. He says he knows he's not flashy; that's the whole point. Pelican isn't about the drums, it's all about the riffs. He doesn't want to detract from them. I personally think his playing suits the song, which is the most important thing.
BlackSabbath86 3 years ago 2
I can't say I agree with that philosophy. They're lacking the more common vocalist; a good drummer with technical skill is a necessity. I think he's more than adequate in complimenting his companions, but is the man intentionally holding back?
Felos 3 years ago
It's stoner rock.
It's not suppose to be unique or technical.
It's just suppose to kickasss!!!
bloodfeastilandman 3 years ago
do they evr sing
metalheadrocker1994 3 years ago
No. Pelican is awesome, but the drummer is one of the guitarist's brother, and if it wasn't for that I think they would have a better drummer and be a better band.
limeyamos 3 years ago
you are way off dude....
FlongDundee 3 years ago
Nope, they're an instrumental band. Brilliant sounds. Particularly liking 'Spaceship Broken - Parts Needed' Check it out if you've not heard it before.
bpccad 3 years ago
no, they're too good of musicians to have to work around lyrics.
TheOB212 3 years ago 2
Watching this video was the last nail in the coffin. Pelican, you're a great band, but you really need to find yourselves a new drummer before you can really live up to your potential.
iamntbatman 3 years ago
if pelican gets a new drummer they wouldn't be pelican anymore...
PPBombersFootball 3 years ago 3
This is what typical new death metal fans, or even "Musical snobbs" (as I like to call them )will hate experimental bands like Sunn O))), Portal, Axis Of Perdition ect. Because as it is with film, if something is different it's looked down upon. I compaire films like Eraserhead are looked down upon by film snobs.
Music is about having fun and expressing your vision through notes (fast or slow). Some people get it, some people don't.
TheForgottenFlesh 3 years ago
the ppl that study music theories for years, will all ways know what will work. this is what m theories is all about! but this kind of ppl prefer to play more complicated music, and they mostly appreciated by other musician. and this is whats genre like prog and jazz are all about. and pelican is not experimental, in the post metal there are enough band to call it a genre. most of the pelican is prog not metal. so its expected for metal heads not to like it.
ps
russian circles much batter.
bluesenight 3 years ago
prog? lol
GNARMYroly 3 years ago
you need to explain your self in more details.
bluesenight 3 years ago
progessive rock
captain40ounce 3 years ago
what about it?
bluesenight 3 years ago
it's more like sludge rock/metal, not really progressive :) and he just didn't agree with the tags ;)
HamsterRapingBastard 3 years ago
do you know what a post metal/rock are?? my guess no.. post metal/rock are considered as prog sub.
bluesenight 3 years ago
no i don't actually, but post, in my opinion, still means 'after'. How can it be post rock then when this style already exists for 10 years?
HamsterRapingBastard 3 years ago
To me "post" just mean some kind of new wave of rock.
Ogorek 3 years ago
post is latin for 'after'. And it's no new kind, although, not really,,
HamsterRapingBastard 3 years ago
its to complicated to explain in a comment, there is a nice site named Progarchives read about math rock, post rock and post metal, read it in this order. post rock came out from math, the main difference is the drumming, and post metal is basically a post rock with heavy vocal and power chords.well its not exactly like this, there are more differences, but that's why i gave you the "link" :)good examples are ..
post rock: Russian circles
post metal: Isis
math rock: Minus the Bear(hate them)
bluesenight 3 years ago
i know all those bands, but i'm not really interested in knowing which styles they are, i just think it's good music.. Isis is more like sludge metal though, in my opinion :)
but yeah, you could be right :)
HamsterRapingBastard 3 years ago
you lost the point, the point is that its prog. does the genre matters? ye because if you like pelican, then you probably will like Isis witch is in the same genre. i get bored really easily, and i all ways look for new bands.
ps
there is a connection between sludge and post metal.
bluesenight 3 years ago
y, i do too, but mostly myspacing, it's easy.. And you're right, it doesn't matter, it's just great music :D
HamsterRapingBastard 3 years ago
I love your username
BottomFeeder10 3 years ago
@Ogorek What??
HarryHunston 1 year ago
@HamsterRapingBastard Your opinion doesn't matter. "Post" can mean a lot of things.
dashofchutmeg 1 year ago
Bands want to have their own identity and in order to do that you need to experiment or look further back into their favourite bands' influences. Bands like Black Sabbath, Led Zepplin, Kiss, Pentagram, Iron Maiden, Misfits, The Accused, Ramones, Motorhead are all simple but they influenced metal and need to be studied in order to accomplish creating your own unique style.
TheForgottenFlesh 3 years ago
Music should not be a compition. I feel a lot of newer Death Metal fans should realize that. They will say Cannibal Corpse is the best band but they hate Possessed because they are too simple. But I can gaurentee if you listen to a simple song from bands like Bolt Thrower, Autopsy, or even early rock or punk bands they will remember it all day instead of a typical Suffocation song that blasts the whole way through.
TheForgottenFlesh 3 years ago
I look at it this way. Music is an expression and an art form. There are some musicians who can study music for years and yet never really know what makes certain music work. A lot of Death Metal fans (well newer Death metal fans) are very restricted into what they listen to. They feel if a band plays 300bpm and a million notes a song it's "Brootal" but as far as memorability or thought put into it....none what so ever.
TheForgottenFlesh 3 years ago
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Pelican suck now, you little fucking faggot hipsters just ruin everything for everybody, don't you?
Pelican's only decent albums they ever recorded were the SELF-TITLED EP and Australasia.
Everything after that is post-rock GARBAGE. Meandering bullshit that goes nowhere.
ConiferTreez 3 years ago
best music to listen to while baked, i love the drummng its so perfect for this band might not be techbical or hard but its awsome
wrisson 3 years ago
worst drummer ever
bawsbaws04 3 years ago
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GHEY DOOM GHEY MOVES
/FAIL
tanatopraxia1 3 years ago
shut up /b/tard
jmrocker 3 years ago