I'd say last true M3 was E92, last true M5 E60. Yes the F10 must be awesome car too, but they are turbocharged. Naturally aspirated high-revving engines has always been the idea if M-cars. Nowdays they've gone...
@vaporazor -_- last true m car was the e46........ not the e92... because of the big v8 m3 were ment to have the straight sixs but the m division and bmw dont know what they want thats how the e92 was born... the last m5 was the e39...... the next m5 had the v10 or 12 i forget but the new 2012 m5 is like a v12 i think lol.... i still forget but not a true m..... i know cuz i work for bmw in germany and i own a e30 m3
@killaspot read ur facts, the new M5 is a V8 Twin Turbo, how isnt it a true M Car? The E39 had a V8 5,0L the M5 originally came with a Straight 6 as well but had to get more power as Jaguar and Mercedes started bringing out their sport versions with over 400 HP so BMW had to get bigger. How you expect a straight six to compete with a 6.2L V8 from AMG?? BMW have the Technology but when it comes down to it they do it to compete in the market.
@CFGERProductions stop lying mate.... my uncles w163 ml 55 amg has 347hp, weighs 2,3 tons and accelerates from0-100 in 6.7s. so you're saying that your fathers diesel faster, although it is weaker, a lot more heavier and (if it is the g-class) much less aerodynamic, can do the sprint in3,9s???? stop lying kiddie........cuz otherwise my 320ci would beat a bugatti veyron......and i'll give you a tip....if you want to lie, study more physics at your class........
I used to own a M3 too and it was really fast!!! I loved my M3 but the only problem was the SMG transmission. The SMG kept breaking down even after replacing the whole transmission!!
GUYS!! If you are going to buy a M3, AVOID ONE WITH A SMG TRANSMISSIOM!!!!
BUY A M3 WITH A STICK SHIFT TRANSMISSION. Smg gave me so much headache... I'm speaking from my experience.
@Bischlarbo69 I agree - I used to own an E46 M3 manual it was the dogs bollox. The g/f is pregnant so I'm driving a (gay) automatic, still BMW though naturally
How muchg seconds is that till 100 kp/h? Because my fathers Mercedes is 2,8 tons heavy and has a giant 305 HP dieselmotor, which gets the 100 kp/h in 3,9 seconds
@CFGERProductions And I bet your father wasn't even in a hurry, that's just his regular driving, when going to work in the morning. If you were driving, it would probably be even faster!
@ernix911 it's the oil temerature, not the water temperature. Many cars don't have a oil temperature gauge, but it's important, because the oil should have 100-110° before you press the pedal to the metal...
@JohnyAngelo what i can see from is engine temp meter is that it stand in the middle. the one you see under his rev counter is a oil temp. witch at a 100 degrees centigrade is at normal temp.
I have an E46 330i and the only performance item I have is the Signature Motoring performance CAI for about $160. The performance kit adds around 13.5HP on the dyno, sounds freaking great, and installs in under 30 minutes. Highly recommended.
-13.5 HP increase
-Lifetime filter
-SOUND AWESOME
-30 min. install time
Aside from the power gain, the SOUND is amazing at higher RPM but sounds normal in regular driving. I’m thinking about added high-flow exhaust next.
About the same till 124mph (200km/h) but then the M5 pulls ahead due to more torque, the diff and more power. The E39 has more tuning potential if you don't go with a turbo, but slap on a HPF kit and the M3 would be extremely fast. That said turbo'ing it would take away from the beauty of it, it wouldn't feel the same. The E39 M5 I've seen tuned to ~480whp without FI, the Ascari A10 uses the block from the E39 and makes ~600hp, that said the block is where the similarities end.
Very nice car this. I remember when it was launched in 2001, I was only a 9 year old boy. I used to be so excited every time I caught a glimpse of those flared arches, 18 inch alloys and 4 exhaust pipes. The old naturally aspirated I6 sounded fantastic imho. However I've never been in one for real. I've got an uncle who had one of these in the past and he said it sounded horrible and rough. He said under acceleration it sounded like a part had fallen off it, because of the artificial exhaust.
@existtm lol, i know lets compare 5.0L mustang to an E46 M3...and that would make more sense would'nt it?
Considering the e46 m3 is 9 years old it is still an incredibly quick car even for todays stands. My M doesn't miss a heartbeat and it still remians in top condition.
The M3 CSL did a 7:50 lap time around the Nürburgring. I dont see any Mustangs on there do you?
The fully loaded CSL did a 7:22 lap time which beat the Nissan GT-R Spec-V and the Toyota Supra (Blitz tuned) both 500-600bhp!
I love my 328i. Only mod is a Signature Motoring performance intake kit. They run around $170 and add up to 9HP in the E46 323/325/328 and up to 13.9HP in the 330. That's about $17/per extra HP... A good value for the extra oomph. General HP increases are shown:
I never get these M3 vs (insert quick kid car here) debates. If you are only looking at the M3's horsepower and drag times, you're missing out on a lot of what the M3 is about...this little thing called "driver connection". Not to mention the M3 can do 150mph without shaking all over the highway like its having a seizure. M3 = filet mignon...Evo = Arby's
@schmagu100 The m3 e30 evo was a great car, i have driven only the original e30 M3 and it was great, really loved it, and most of that essence is in the E46 M3, flat 6 engine, really good handling, a bit dangerous though in the e30 but great fun if you know what you are doing, manual gearbox, and nothing except your skill to keep you out of the hedges. And unlike the e90 M3 in which you can choose a million settings for the car, the old one's had just one setting, the right one !
@MDIVISIONRULES Too much technology in it, i don't want a computer to drive MY car. And just look at it, it's way too flashy, an M car should be subtle, only a real car fan should recognize the power which lies under the skin. Look at the CSL, very subtle exterior modifications, you might mistake it for a normal 3 series if you don't pay attention, while the GTS in all internet pictures is bright orange and has a huge spoiler on it, just like all the riced civic's.
@Animalm0ther It's about tradition, about who you are, the straight 6 engine made BMW famous, it gave it an identity, the V8 just made it another fast car.
@holmansmashbros it's a drivers car, it more simple and more fun to drive, in the end it has a much better feel. Unlike the e60 m5 which has 7 settings for the gearbox and much more useless shit, i want to drive my car, not spend the day setting it up. And another major thing the m5 is a 4 door saloon, it's a very good 4 door saloon, but it's aprox. 300 kg heavier than this. Drive them both and you will see what i mean, and when i say drive i don't mean race them on the highway
@sashaalx03 still the m5 is just plain scary fast. it will go over 200 mph delimited. it also is a drivers car. as long as it is in m-mode. and honestly i don't see how this m3 could be more fun. i mean 500hp, f1 trannie. smoking gallardos. thats pretty damn fun if you ask me. i also just prefer 4 door saloons.
@sashaalx03 I would say it's the fourth to last, the M5/M6 and E90 M3 were the last three. The last M cars (for now at least, I hope not forever) with manual transmissions, high reving NA engines, lots of power up top, not a lot of torque down low, bespoke engines, and involving to drive.
@karlmalone11 I think he is referring to the last Naturally Aspirated inline 6 M engine made. Which for many BMW purists is the true soul of BMW mpower stemming from the original M1
@TheArfdog the E36 was the most flawed M3,and that's the opinion of most car magazines! The E46 M3 is equal to the legendary E30,as well as the E60 M5 was the best M5 ever according to most car magazines.Having not driven these cars,i suggest you be more hesitant before making a comment
@TheArfdog you never drove e92 m3 or newer didnt ya? you're talking rubbish man.. the new ones are just as hardcore as the old ones.. You just must know how to drive them
@soldierx345 Because it weighs 3400 lbs. And it wasn't that powerful. 333 hp. The C5 of the same period had 350 NA hp. And the LS1 (450 lb) was lighter than the S54 (470 lb). How does that work??
@NarishmaJr Lol, you're the one that brought up engines and HP/L. But ok since we established that the C5 engine is more efficient, we can now change subjects from engine to car.
@TheArfdog so the 1M, the E92, E46, E60 and the new F10 is not a proper M car? waw you must have driven all of these cars to come up with such a solution...NOT
@TheArfdog No! Last true M3 is the current E92 and the last true M5 was the E60. M cars abide by three criteria: they have to be lightweight, uncorrupted, and be a manual. That's a quote from Kay Segler, the president; granted he said that before the silly X6/X5m came out. If you look at the direction M cars are going (forced induction i.e corrupted power, permanent DCT, added weight, legions of electronics) you'll hopefully see that the E60 and E92 are TRUELY the last M cars.
uhh, anyone caught the temp gauge increasing LOL!!!!
ElsHouse 1 week ago
@ElsHouse It's the oil temp gauge, it is perfectly normal to rise after such hard acceleration...
fylarxos 4 days ago
a stock fiat coupe 20vt is the same
hgortermarof 3 weeks ago
the last true bmw.....
machinejet 3 weeks ago
ANYONE NOTICE THE TEMPERATURE GAUGE !!!!!???
fransizcocuk 1 month ago 6
@fransizcocuk the gauge is really nice :) my lada's gauge much worse :D
RCSiberia 1 month ago
@fransizcocuk
Controlled thermostat. Isn't meant to maintain a constant temp. Under certain conditions the temp is increased. Ask BMW.
MoronAntidote 1 week ago
My vette c6 ls3 464Hp owned every M BMW which I ve ever met.
lorddziub 1 month ago
Why can't the M just be a bad@ss version of the standard models? Oh wait, that is what the M intended to be.
Dodat69 1 month ago
F10 > E46
MercedesFUN1 2 months ago 2
e24
Zatoksykowany 2 months ago
Man I don't give a fuck how fast this car is! Bmw's get the worst qualtiy ratings on the road!
posvibration21 2 months ago
@posvibration21 compared to what? and by what criteria>\?
chimpzahoy 2 months ago
I'd say last true M3 was E92, last true M5 E60. Yes the F10 must be awesome car too, but they are turbocharged. Naturally aspirated high-revving engines has always been the idea if M-cars. Nowdays they've gone...
vaporazor 2 months ago
@vaporazor -_- last true m car was the e46........ not the e92... because of the big v8 m3 were ment to have the straight sixs but the m division and bmw dont know what they want thats how the e92 was born... the last m5 was the e39...... the next m5 had the v10 or 12 i forget but the new 2012 m5 is like a v12 i think lol.... i still forget but not a true m..... i know cuz i work for bmw in germany and i own a e30 m3
killaspot 2 months ago
@killaspot read ur facts, the new M5 is a V8 Twin Turbo, how isnt it a true M Car? The E39 had a V8 5,0L the M5 originally came with a Straight 6 as well but had to get more power as Jaguar and Mercedes started bringing out their sport versions with over 400 HP so BMW had to get bigger. How you expect a straight six to compete with a 6.2L V8 from AMG?? BMW have the Technology but when it comes down to it they do it to compete in the market.
keno88 1 month ago
@CFGERProductions stop lying mate.... my uncles w163 ml 55 amg has 347hp, weighs 2,3 tons and accelerates from0-100 in 6.7s. so you're saying that your fathers diesel faster, although it is weaker, a lot more heavier and (if it is the g-class) much less aerodynamic, can do the sprint in3,9s???? stop lying kiddie........cuz otherwise my 320ci would beat a bugatti veyron......and i'll give you a tip....if you want to lie, study more physics at your class........
deathspeeed 3 months ago
M5 E39 is faster .
RaoulEmilian 3 months ago 2
@RaoulEmilian e39 best m5 man imo that and the e28 m5 sexy asss cars!
killaspot 2 months ago
I used to own a M3 too and it was really fast!!! I loved my M3 but the only problem was the SMG transmission. The SMG kept breaking down even after replacing the whole transmission!!
GUYS!! If you are going to buy a M3, AVOID ONE WITH A SMG TRANSMISSIOM!!!!
BUY A M3 WITH A STICK SHIFT TRANSMISSION. Smg gave me so much headache... I'm speaking from my experience.
057gnb3316sef6 3 months ago
@057gnb3316sef6 Plus performance cars with an automanual transmission are kinda gay, especially if you have the option of a proper manual.
Bischlarbo69 2 months ago
@Bischlarbo69
I agree with you, but when I bought a M3 for the first time I chose a M3 with the SMG tranny
because I was interested in 2 pedal manual transmisson=(Whatever it's called)
AND IT WAS A MAJOR DISAPPOINTMENT!!!
Next time when I buy a M3, I will 100% choose a manual one.
057gnb3316sef6 2 months ago
@Bischlarbo69 I agree - I used to own an E46 M3 manual it was the dogs bollox. The g/f is pregnant so I'm driving a (gay) automatic, still BMW though naturally
jmcooney2000 2 months ago
Look at the coolant temps lol.
FordGuy100 3 months ago
How muchg seconds is that till 100 kp/h? Because my fathers Mercedes is 2,8 tons heavy and has a giant 305 HP dieselmotor, which gets the 100 kp/h in 3,9 seconds
CFGERProductions 4 months ago
@CFGERProductions, that's definitely not true cause max what BMW M3 can do is 4,7 s. Though, her engine is more powerful.
PAPASTRATOS777 4 months ago
@CFGERProductions And I bet your father wasn't even in a hurry, that's just his regular driving, when going to work in the morning. If you were driving, it would probably be even faster!
mistreku 3 months ago
Laaaaannnnngweilig,so ne lahme Krücke.............BMW hald xD
fliecha85 4 months ago
m= fastest letter in the world
lespaul9836 4 months ago
My 116i is faster lol ;)
2010vernon 4 months ago
M is the best letter in the alphabet...yee
BassmanCDL 4 months ago 2
all that bullshit about "the last real m-car"... M is and stays number one dude FUCK YEAH
niqqppin 4 months ago
4.7 sec to 100...fucking nice car. love it
Testokrieger88 5 months ago
shut up you gimp last true 3 was e46
burnsman248 5 months ago 26
@burnsman248 e30
SipINick 2 months ago
@burnsman248 last true m3 was a e46??? thats pretty dumb man the e46 lost its feel, i think the true m3 is the e36 not 46......... i had both
datejebam 2 months ago
@datejebam ya but i get where hes coming form tho. it was the last of the strait 6.
MiniIsle 2 months ago
@burnsman248 Haha! True.
LEGENDPURGE 1 month ago
hahahahahah
LbUSbL-ThfE
looperos 5 months ago
temperature arrow is faster than the speedmeter :)
vladimir198211 5 months ago
C'mon guys, how can a ~5sec to 100 and ~18sec to 200 be slow? I believe the 300km/h speedo is giving you the illusion of slowness ;)
gokhanasan 5 months ago
219km/h ;)
JonaszJump 5 months ago
crikey I thought the M3 was supposed to be fast??? :-/
STUEYTTS 5 months ago
Have you had the clutch delay valve removed?
blobslosak 5 months ago in playlist M3 Divers
I think corvette c5 is faster
ersPokkeroYfanny 5 months ago
Huh! Not fast, really.
EJ205T 6 months ago
what the hack with your engine temperature?
ernix911 6 months ago
@ernix911 it's the oil temerature, not the water temperature. Many cars don't have a oil temperature gauge, but it's important, because the oil should have 100-110° before you press the pedal to the metal...
warri0r92 6 months ago
@warri0r92
Aaa. Now I remembered, my old Audi 80 GTE used to have oil temeprature gauge. Ahhh, I'm idiot. :)
ernix911 6 months ago
temp ??
Tacik69 6 months ago
RS>M
mada9898 6 months ago
First and only M3 was a E30 :-))) I agree with E39 M5 like a last true Motorsport car from BMW :-)
kappricek 6 months ago
look at the temperature gauge!
cibo 6 months ago 2
the Mercedes Benz c63 - M3 Killer!
MrZadeeh 6 months ago
@MrZadeeh In a straight line yes. Everywhere else no
SilentSlayer90 6 months ago
sound=instant cream
Moldamin111 6 months ago
@TheArfdog yeah,, M3 E36 is BEAST. ///M Power!
TheRavensArk 6 months ago
Watch the oil temperature level ... :)
wug1229 6 months ago
Fuck yes!
M3 rules
FuckinMetal3694 6 months ago
Oil temp - funny =))
Stefan0767772242 7 months ago
my friend beat that M3 with a sohc 1.5 civic
Thomsonicus 7 months ago
@Thomsonicus my friend beat your mum in the face
auron2301 6 months ago
LOL at engine temp. you should do something about it :D
JohnyAngelo 7 months ago
@JohnyAngelo what i can see from is engine temp meter is that it stand in the middle. the one you see under his rev counter is a oil temp. witch at a 100 degrees centigrade is at normal temp.
SRDsports 7 months ago
@SRDsports Oh,, my bad. It's oil temp, then it's quite alright.
JohnyAngelo 7 months ago
what you say ??? the last true m3 was the e30 m3 google it noob
fluch70 7 months ago
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I have an E46 330i and the only performance item I have is the Signature Motoring performance CAI for about $160. The performance kit adds around 13.5HP on the dyno, sounds freaking great, and installs in under 30 minutes. Highly recommended.
-13.5 HP increase
-Lifetime filter
-SOUND AWESOME
-30 min. install time
Aside from the power gain, the SOUND is amazing at higher RPM but sounds normal in regular driving. I’m thinking about added high-flow exhaust next.
BMWPOWER4U 7 months ago
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LOL watchin the temperature gauge go up that fast.
ttmaggebo 7 months ago
LOL to watchin the temperature gaugr go up that fast.
ttmaggebo 7 months ago
look temperature rising from 90-110 :)
ivanzl89 8 months ago
@ivanzl89 i think you'll realize tht is the temp. gauge for engine oil, if it didn't rise with this sort of revving, the gauge should be at fault =]
volante8657 8 months ago
@volante8657 ok, my mistake :)
ivanzl89 8 months ago
Can someone buy me one of these please.
lucrativeelfmongrel 9 months ago
which is faster e46 m3 or e39 m5??
ILoveBarcaNumberOne 9 months ago
About the same till 124mph (200km/h) but then the M5 pulls ahead due to more torque, the diff and more power. The E39 has more tuning potential if you don't go with a turbo, but slap on a HPF kit and the M3 would be extremely fast. That said turbo'ing it would take away from the beauty of it, it wouldn't feel the same. The E39 M5 I've seen tuned to ~480whp without FI, the Ascari A10 uses the block from the E39 and makes ~600hp, that said the block is where the similarities end.
princepersia1 7 months ago
E46 is to slow for an expensive car.
Henkbestcar 9 months ago
finally some1 that could also afford a camera after buying the bmw ! goodjob man
xXxDarkyLightxXx 10 months ago 142
Why are you two arguing over two BMW M powered cars? Shouldn't we be ranting on about some other car maker?
soulsick410 10 months ago 2
FULL
Hubert89AA 10 months ago
Hmmm irgenwie zu langsam für ein M3
19Harun80 10 months ago
irgend wie ist der m3 schwach wen ich die anderen vergleiche
kucevokoj19 10 months ago
bin heute in einem M3 E46 mit gefahren. Einfach nur Geil !!!!
DritfInfantry34 10 months ago
look how the engine is getting hoter and hoter !!
IS49VAS 10 months ago
@IS49VAS FYI, It's The Oil Temperature ... FAIL
ChiDyBoy22 10 months ago
@ChiDyBoy22 hahahah =)) i made such a big mistake :D sorry.
IS49VAS 10 months ago
Kühlflüssigkeit nachschauen über 100 grad nicht gut!!!
woifmcblack 10 months ago
@woifmcblack Das ist die Öltemperatur. Und die ist optimal.
Atomameise93 10 months ago
220 km/h 23sec impressionnant
42HUS 10 months ago
e46 m3 is awesome..
SP33DADD1CT 11 months ago
Is this the M3 3.2L or the 4.0 V8? It sounds like a straight six if ur telling me..
AlexZandero 1 year ago
@AlexZandero the old has (this one) 3.2 straight six,e90,e92 has 4 litre v8
Ouwtlawzzz 1 year ago
@Ouwtlawzzz Ah ok thanks for clearing that up ;)
I really dont think BMW would deliver this modern car with the old E36 3.0 286hp engine ;P
AlexZandero 1 year ago
Great shifting
chessimate 1 year ago
The E36 //M3 Is Better For Me :)
furkanspider 1 year ago
Very nice car this. I remember when it was launched in 2001, I was only a 9 year old boy. I used to be so excited every time I caught a glimpse of those flared arches, 18 inch alloys and 4 exhaust pipes. The old naturally aspirated I6 sounded fantastic imho. However I've never been in one for real. I've got an uncle who had one of these in the past and he said it sounded horrible and rough. He said under acceleration it sounded like a part had fallen off it, because of the artificial exhaust.
KBNASTAT92 1 year ago
ahhhh BMW - the ultimate driving Machine!
Ouwtlawzzz 1 year ago
great quality!
MrWislak1906 1 year ago
lol very slow
Schmoller123 1 year ago
this is really slow.. check out mustang GT :))
existtm 1 year ago
@existtm
Yeh, until you hit the first corner !
ihathome 1 year ago
@existtm Watch the M3 E92, or the M5 E60, M series whoops every mustang there is bud:)
kaankoc58 1 year ago
@existtm lol, i know lets compare 5.0L mustang to an E46 M3...and that would make more sense would'nt it?
Considering the e46 m3 is 9 years old it is still an incredibly quick car even for todays stands. My M doesn't miss a heartbeat and it still remians in top condition.
The M3 CSL did a 7:50 lap time around the Nürburgring. I dont see any Mustangs on there do you?
The fully loaded CSL did a 7:22 lap time which beat the Nissan GT-R Spec-V and the Toyota Supra (Blitz tuned) both 500-600bhp!
snapfreak 1 year ago
24 Audi RS4 fans !!!
Gamerx05 1 year ago
why doenst your shift light work?
Aaroenz0r 1 year ago
lol lame
Milchenx3 1 year ago
good lord that car is high revving..
Devic13 1 year ago
Autonmatic
EmilianClarinet 1 year ago
M3 E46 BEST M3!
Mid974 1 year ago
This M3 is better than the E92 M3.
057gnb3316sef6 1 year ago
or a alpina b3s ;)
cmon89Jarhead89cmon 1 year ago
I love the sound of that engine, I think I prefer it to the V8. Although that's a pretty awesome engine.
lucrativeelfmongrel 1 year ago
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I love my 328i. Only mod is a Signature Motoring performance intake kit. They run around $170 and add up to 9HP in the E46 323/325/328 and up to 13.9HP in the 330. That's about $17/per extra HP... A good value for the extra oomph. General HP increases are shown:
E30 series: 6.0-13.4hp gain
E36 series: 5.5-12hp gain
E46 series: 6.0-13.9hp gain
E92 series: 8.5+ hp gain
Z3/Z4 (all): 5.5-13.9hp gain
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BMWPOWER4U 1 year ago
zero to 100 KM/hr in 5 sec
mmarmash 1 year ago
8k redline thats fuckin fast lol
tomcatdcn 1 year ago
Way overated.... not that fast...
guyd37 1 year ago
@guyd37 yup
witdak 1 year ago
I never get these M3 vs (insert quick kid car here) debates. If you are only looking at the M3's horsepower and drag times, you're missing out on a lot of what the M3 is about...this little thing called "driver connection". Not to mention the M3 can do 150mph without shaking all over the highway like its having a seizure. M3 = filet mignon...Evo = Arby's
PasseFuture 1 year ago 2
@PasseFuture couldnt put it any better
iknowcarsbetterthanu 1 year ago
all that in less than 1km 044044 :D:D:D
pro999evo999 1 year ago
The last true M car....
sashaalx03 1 year ago 156
@sashaalx03 So is the E39 M5
NikolaAU 1 year ago
@sashaalx03 no the only true M car was the first^^ the m3 e30 evo ;D
schmagu100 1 year ago
@schmagu100 now that mate, is a true car.
youngb1ood 1 year ago
@schmagu100 The m3 e30 evo was a great car, i have driven only the original e30 M3 and it was great, really loved it, and most of that essence is in the E46 M3, flat 6 engine, really good handling, a bit dangerous though in the e30 but great fun if you know what you are doing, manual gearbox, and nothing except your skill to keep you out of the hedges. And unlike the e90 M3 in which you can choose a million settings for the car, the old one's had just one setting, the right one !
sashaalx03 1 year ago
@sashaalx03 i feel you ! it's the last one that bmw did!
all the new ones are just not bmw , they dont have that bmw aura.
i see audi is getting the picture that bmw did in the past
musikstefan 1 year ago
@sashaalx03 What about BMW M3 GTS?
MDIVISIONRULES 1 year ago
@MDIVISIONRULES Too much technology in it, i don't want a computer to drive MY car. And just look at it, it's way too flashy, an M car should be subtle, only a real car fan should recognize the power which lies under the skin. Look at the CSL, very subtle exterior modifications, you might mistake it for a normal 3 series if you don't pay attention, while the GTS in all internet pictures is bright orange and has a huge spoiler on it, just like all the riced civic's.
sashaalx03 1 year ago
@sashaalx03 ok,it's not so understated.But everyone who has driven one says that it is equally good to a CSL
MDIVISIONRULES 1 year ago
@MDIVISIONRULES As a driving machine, i am sure it is even better, but as a car i'd take the CSL everyday.
sashaalx03 1 year ago
@sashaalx03 what, an M3 cant have a v8 that revs just as high?
Animalm0ther 1 year ago
@Animalm0ther It's about tradition, about who you are, the straight 6 engine made BMW famous, it gave it an identity, the V8 just made it another fast car.
sashaalx03 1 year ago 2
@sashaalx03 e60 m5 hello?? best car ever. will smoke this shit
holmansmashbros 1 year ago
@sashaalx03 Not last, there's the Z4 M Coupe after it, same engine and very beautiful in my opinion !
rosenrot77 1 year ago
@sashaalx03 are you joking? the e60 m5 is the best and truest m car ever. smoke this POS
holmansmashbros 10 months ago
@holmansmashbros The e46 is slower but better, speed isn't everything
sashaalx03 10 months ago
@sashaalx03 how is this better. please explain.
holmansmashbros 10 months ago
@holmansmashbros it's a drivers car, it more simple and more fun to drive, in the end it has a much better feel. Unlike the e60 m5 which has 7 settings for the gearbox and much more useless shit, i want to drive my car, not spend the day setting it up. And another major thing the m5 is a 4 door saloon, it's a very good 4 door saloon, but it's aprox. 300 kg heavier than this. Drive them both and you will see what i mean, and when i say drive i don't mean race them on the highway
sashaalx03 10 months ago
@sashaalx03 still the m5 is just plain scary fast. it will go over 200 mph delimited. it also is a drivers car. as long as it is in m-mode. and honestly i don't see how this m3 could be more fun. i mean 500hp, f1 trannie. smoking gallardos. thats pretty damn fun if you ask me. i also just prefer 4 door saloons.
holmansmashbros 10 months ago
@sashaalx03 I would say it's the fourth to last, the M5/M6 and E90 M3 were the last three. The last M cars (for now at least, I hope not forever) with manual transmissions, high reving NA engines, lots of power up top, not a lot of torque down low, bespoke engines, and involving to drive.
audiman25 10 months ago
@sashaalx03 e92 m3 is most definitely a true M car
karlmalone11 9 months ago
@karlmalone11 I think he is referring to the last Naturally Aspirated inline 6 M engine made. Which for many BMW purists is the true soul of BMW mpower stemming from the original M1
FliegenKlappen 9 months ago
@FliegenKlappen ahh ok yeah, that makes sense
karlmalone11 9 months ago
@sashaalx03
E46 are the best m3 ever madee, i enjoy my e92 335is also
ReadComment 9 months ago
@sashaalx03 I agree but how about the new 1-series M coupe. Straight six engine so it`s like going back to basics.
obiska92 9 months ago
@obiska92 I think the last true M car will be the last one to use an NA engine.
inurkiewicz 9 months ago
@inurkiewicz Ok, fair point .
obiska92 9 months ago
@sashaalx03 What do you mean?
angrybirdzguitar 9 months ago
@sashaalx03 No, last true M car was the E39 M5. Last true M3 was the E36.
TheArfdog 8 months ago 18
@TheArfdog well not the U.S spec M3, that was garb
69mrbrightside691 8 months ago
Jealous
yingko06 7 months ago
@TheArfdog you are so right about E39M and E36 M the E46 M3 is not impressive that just my opinion
ap2f224ever 7 months ago
@TheArfdog the E36 was the most flawed M3,and that's the opinion of most car magazines! The E46 M3 is equal to the legendary E30,as well as the E60 M5 was the best M5 ever according to most car magazines.Having not driven these cars,i suggest you be more hesitant before making a comment
MDIVISIONRULES 6 months ago
@MDIVISIONRULES I've driven the M- E30, E36, E46 and E39.
TheArfdog 6 months ago
@TheArfdog The E36 was the last true M3? How so? My personal favourite is the E34 M5. What a machine..
mikey380sx 6 months ago
@TheArfdog what the hell are you talking about? have you driven both?
MrDodobmw 6 months ago
@TheArfdog you never drove e92 m3 or newer didnt ya? you're talking rubbish man.. the new ones are just as hardcore as the old ones.. You just must know how to drive them
queenzortje 6 months ago
@TheArfdog why?
LilProveInn 5 months ago
@TheArfdog how can you say the most powerful naturally aspirated engine of the time was not a real M car? (E46)
soldierx345 5 months ago
@soldierx345 Because it weighs 3400 lbs. And it wasn't that powerful. 333 hp. The C5 of the same period had 350 NA hp. And the LS1 (450 lb) was lighter than the S54 (470 lb). How does that work??
TheArfdog 5 months ago
@TheArfdog maybe it was most powerful 6 cylinder, and why does the weight make it not an M
soldierx345 5 months ago
@TheArfdog The corvette is a 5,7l v8 with 350hp = 61,4hp/l
And now over to the M3, 3,2l 343hp = 107,18hp/l
And the CSL version has a bit over 112hp/l
Thats A LOT more power...
NarishmaJr 4 days ago
@NarishmaJr 3.2L engine = 470 lb, 343 hp. 5.7L engine = 450 lb, 350 hp. Corvette engine has a higher power/weight ratio. Why does hp/L matter again?
TheArfdog 3 days ago
@TheArfdog Yeah thats a difference of 20lbs, thats nothing at all.
We can compare pwr/wght ratio if you want, but lets take the entire weight of the car.
Corvette 3245lb
M3 csl 3050lb, now lets see what that gives us:
Corvette - 240bhp/tonne
M3 CSL - 260bhp/tonne
(standard M3 - 216bhp/tonne, thats not too bad either)
NarishmaJr 2 days ago
@NarishmaJr Lol, you're the one that brought up engines and HP/L. But ok since we established that the C5 engine is more efficient, we can now change subjects from engine to car.
M3 CSL (3.2L) - 260 hp/tonne - 1/4 mile @ 104 mph
C5 (5.7L) - 240 hp/tonne - 1/4 @ 110 mph
And let's not talk about price...
TheArfdog 2 days ago
@TheArfdog Im not the one who brought up engines. But anyways.
The reason for a higher 1/4 time is that the 5,7l engine has a lot more torq..
C5 - 495Nm
M3 - 365Nm
Want to talk about laptimes? (Nürnberg)
C5 - 7:56
M3 CSL 7:50
NarishmaJr 2 days ago
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@TheArfdog Im not the one who brought up engines. But anyways.
The reason for a higher 1/4 time is that the 5,7l engine has a lot more torq..
C5 - 495Nm
M3 - 365Nm
Want to talk about laptimes? (Nürnberg)
C5 - 7:56
M3 CSL 7:50
NarishmaJr 2 days ago
@TheArfdog M3 - 8,5hp/lb
C5 - 9,3hp/lb
NarishmaJr 2 days ago
@TheArfdog so the 1M, the E92, E46, E60 and the new F10 is not a proper M car? waw you must have driven all of these cars to come up with such a solution...NOT
shobin05 4 months ago 32
@shobin05 Nope they all feel like bullshit.
TheArfdog 4 months ago
@TheArfdog
Why, because you haven't driven one since ?
nielsboex 4 months ago
@TheArfdog No! Last true M3 is the current E92 and the last true M5 was the E60. M cars abide by three criteria: they have to be lightweight, uncorrupted, and be a manual. That's a quote from Kay Segler, the president; granted he said that before the silly X6/X5m came out. If you look at the direction M cars are going (forced induction i.e corrupted power, permanent DCT, added weight, legions of electronics) you'll hopefully see that the E60 and E92 are TRUELY the last M cars.
ellisfreedman 4 months ago
@ellisfreedman e60 has sequential gearbox not manual
3dule 4 months ago
@3dule Uhh no, you're wrong. It has the option of either a sequential gearbox or a manual. The sequential is actually additional
SnizzFizz 4 months ago
@3dule U.S got the option of a manual because we are the biggest market for the M5.
ellisfreedman 4 months ago
@ellisfreedman last true m3 was e30. No guidance at all.
wbi007 1 month ago
@TheArfdog Have you driven a new M3? If so, you wouldn't call an E36 the last true M.
ThePantyDroper 3 months ago
@sashaalx03 why u say that?
sinjeet1 7 months ago
shit ^^
0DJmind0 1 year ago
slow
cjw1018 1 year ago
COOL! I want this car too :D
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