Slandering Falun Gong Part 1

[positivitymaster]

everyone would know... They'd have it on their news channels same as how they defamed iraq during 911

[positivitymaster]

interesting how you try to disinform Deuszxable. You say we make up "sad" stories of how we WERE persecuted in China. Well guess what, i have seen the scars from the torture, and even the psychological effects of the abuse in the FD people i know. So why do you try to say it with quotes - "sad" huh? U R A liar. Its so well known the CCP lies about how they treat prisoners. Especially FD's! I suppose u claim they never killed a single FD right! If USA wanted to use FD to defame China everyone..

[saint666]

they shouldnt banned this book, what they should of done what is publish reports and articles ridiculing and disproving this in large quantities and drown out the book. So basically learn from the americans on dealing with anti government propaganda.But you dont really need to try all that hard to disprove something that says you can cure cancer doing their exercises.

[positivitymaster]

The book harms nobody! Why get rid of a book? Why do you and so many spread lies like this about falun dafa? Because China pays you to lie, or you actually believe the disinformation yourself about us kind people. The staged self burning incident has so many contradictions and lies its not funny, but i guess you would rather believe the CCP is not an evil government, or no? All Gov's are evil, ALL!

[charliezhu01]

A predicting long novel, "yellow diaster". Hahaha, there are even people believing trash of this kind. Are we living in 2XX or 20XX.?

[roundeyeddevil1488]

Let's see, practice Falun Gong and get tortured by Chinese government?..... or DON'T practice Falun Gong and DON'Tget tortured by the Chinese government? Such tough decision to make.....

[Supenmanu]

The Christians faced the same decision. The jews faced the same decision. Funny isn't it? The roman empire was so powerfull - and maybe it would still be here today. You know why it's gone? They thought they where so powerfull, so superior and wanted to controll everyone and everything. So they couldn't even tolerate a few good people with righteous faith. But in trying to destroy christians - they precisly destroyed themselves.

[saint666]

but china is still here, i think chinese value culture and ethnic identity more that religious blind faith. for some reason for thousands of years in china religion never made it to the same status that it had in other culture and the funny thing is that china survived and the others didnt. China is the culture and the people,the government is just what represents the people at the time.If it no longer benefits the people to have such a government it will be changed,but in the end china stays.

[Deuszxable]

You know, the U.S. always grab any chance to make China look bad. Quickly used propaganda to turn the entire event into "communist China prosecute Falung Gong 'spiritual movement' ". It has been the "standard" story in the west ever since.

[Deuszxable]

And now with Falung Gong leader evacuated to the U.S., CIA has been funding them. Falung Gong has its own free newspaper in the U.S., all fund were from the U.S. government. They make up stories such as 70 million Chinese died because of the government blah blah blah etc. And all the "sad" stories of how they were prosecuted in China.

[Supenmanu]

heared that before... i think it was a rumor from about 70 years ago...

Of course it was a different group back than

But the "rumors" where quite similar...

[Deuszxable]

70 years ago Falun Gong didn't even exist.

[S1587915G]

70 years ago the CCP didn't exist either.

China will live on, but the CCP will GO. The longest a Chinese dynasty ever lasted is about 400 years, and already the bloody communist regime's got cracks all over.

[Deuszxable]

CCP will never live on eternally, I agree with that, but they'll surely adopt other ideologies if China achieves developed status. CCP is much different from Communism.

[positivitymaster]

Actually the 70 000000 figure came from others 1st not falun dafa. Its a factual statistic. About the all funding comming from the cia, that is bs because we never needed funding from anyone, we have jobs and support our work ourselves. Dont forget in china alone 100 000000 F dafa practitioners existed, and that was way back in 1999. In other countries there are also millions, like as if we need funding from a government! Where did you hear all such lies? Communist china websites? Mega disinfo!

[Deuszxable]

70 million have died, but not because of the government, it was because of Mao. You guys should research the CCP more closely than just simply critisizing them. You don't want to hear the fact that Falun Gong media sources get funding from the NED, which is a direct branch from the CIA, you can check any declassified document you can find about this. If you want to know more, check out:

Washington is playing a deeper game with China

P.S.: this was not written by a CCP member.

[Jerrod001H]

@Supenmanu

This makes since to me. I Live in Colorado & I looked for something like Falun Gong to help me find the meaning of life when I was very suisidal. After Studying Falun Gong I no longer wanted to Comite Suicide & decided to try to live & Cultivate Truth-Kindness-Tolerance.

To my surprise Falun Gong Healed my Scoliosis to the point I can walk & work full time. I have mead minimum wage at McDonalds for almost 5 years but as I study & Practice I find myself a better person & happier

[stillrob420]

china has over a billion people, if a billion people cant handle their govt thats sad.

[deedee1067]

Freedom, Democracy and Human Rights for China !

[monkeyfishninja]

Another one of Master Li's fabulous quotes. This came from one of his 2007 speeches and don't tell me that it's Communist propaganda.

"It is okay to be a corrupt official in China. Afterall, they are taking money from the Communists!"

You are saying that Falun Gong is a moral organization?

[lynbrody]

I went to Falun Dafa . org and looked at the only two articles for 2007 that Master Li gave. I searched your phrase in both texts and came up with nothing. I then searched the word Communist and nothing. The teachings of Master Li are free and available in their entirety at the above website. I will look in other articles. Next time copy and paste from the above address and give the exact teaching you are quoting from so we can understand your concern and help with any mis-understandings.

[monkeyfishninja]

Really?

It's true that non-believers are sinners according to the Christian doctrine. Do you know what is the label for a person who claims to be a god?

A devil.

[Supenmanu]

hmmm... really? "Chairman Mao's raidiance brightens everything it shines on", "Father is dear to us mother is dear to us, but no one is so close to us as Chairman Mao" "One word in Chairman Mao's book is like 10.000 ordinary words" "Chairman Mao is the savior of the people" "Thanks to the '3 represents' my doughter gave birth to such a cheerfull son" "Thanks to the '3 represents' we had such a great hearvest this year"... shall i go on?

[lynbrody]

Actually Jesus said if you had faith the size of a Mustard seed, you could move mountains. He even got his disciple to walk on the water. Jesus was laughed at and scorned, he was tortured, his persecutors often asked him to use his powers and stop the persecution. He healed many people and performed many miracles but he was here to take the sins of the World. He asked for people to not judge one another and to be tolerant instead of eye for an eye.

[monkeyfishninja]

Here is something to think about:

Master Li (founder of Falun Gong) is the second person in history (John Lennon being the first, who was somewhat worthy of the title) to claim that he was bigger than Jesus. He openly stated in a Chinese lecture that Jesus and Siddhartha were "minor gods" in the "Pantheon of Gods" and that he was the "Master Buddha of the Universe."

Did you notice that he left out Muhammad and Allah? I wonder why...

[Supenmanu]

isn't it strange that you are the one who is saying that? You left out yet another group of people: jews, and Christians as well. Both the Nazis and the Roman empire claimed that they would claim to be higher than their God(s) and that they would be a cult trying to exploit people etc. It's a pretty effective way to de-value someone...

[Adamovic11]

Everybody in the world now know that FG is good :-)But I thing the CCP didnt gain to much favor in the hearts of the people..

[lynbrody]

"Zhuan Falun" (The main Falun Gong book) Read it it is free and will answer all your Falun "gong questions. google Zhuan Falun book.

[d7vtydoj]

China peoples are good,China Communist is evil

[falungonggong]

f**kg damn Li is just a stupid man, eat and shit everyday like us, talking about a "Damn wheel" can be planted into our belly, at this era of time? Shit him and also you, all the low mentality followers.

[tadhor]

fuck Communist regime.Religion is individual's right.State shouldn't dictate,ban or imposs any religion on the people,like communist tried to impose it's own communist Lama in Tibet but no one accept that.Communist have no very long life now.They will go soon like USSR

[weissman2000]

Do you understand the Chinese language, at all?

[blitz64]

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[mklooking]

Before Falun Gong was formally banned in China, I've met guys that practise Falun Gong, these people believe that practising Falun Gong makes them invincible, they don't need to see a doctor when they are sick, Falun Gong has the power to cure themselves, and belived that they will become immortals and gods when practising Falun Gong. The Falun Gong teachings are very different from Buddhism or Taosim, it is a very self-centered and superstitious cult.

[mklooking]

Falun gong is an evil cult that promote superstitious beliefs, Li Hongzhi manipulates and controls the minds of Falun Gong members through propaganda.

[theatheisthand]

did the girl's head just blow up after her skull got overheated?

[budefu]

logical fallacy at 6:12. death by persecution/total practitioners can't be compared to total death/total population.

psh, miraculous healing effect.

[shoegooguru]

Falun Gong, if left alone can find it's course. It is the persecution that must explain itself; that is evil.

[youon99]

5. FLG members first send private messages to the objectors individually, if they can't persuade them, then they send warning emails and virus to them.

6. FLG modifies the public statements by adding/ deleting the specific words, and even reverse the meaning from the media / presses like BBC, CNN, China media etc.

7. They keep backbiting CCP, but they have no tiny contribution to the China community at all

8. Most of the FLG supporters are not from the source - China, they stay in oversea.

[Supenmanu]

man... am i glad that you told me that. Now whenever someone i know get's arrested for practicing Falun Gong i will know that he is trying to fool me and ignore it.

[sivadwerdna]

shut up.

[youon99]

Falun Gong tactics:

1. FLG label everyone who object them are brainwashed by CCP and worked for CCP

2. FLG delete objectors comments in their own FLG makeup videos in Youtube

3. They copy / paste the anti CCP statement from the FLG resources like Epoch time , fd of FLG etc.

4. When their points are not convincing enough, they drag every unrelated China historical harsh matters to strengthen their points.

[youon99]

The Falun Gong allegation has been discredited:

- Both US State Department and long time Chinese dissident Harry Wu conducted undercover investigations and found the key allegation not credible

- The report written by Mr. Kilgour was reviewed and discredited by US Congressional researchers Thomas Lum and Emma Ashburn

Shame on you, Mr. Kilgour.

[Supenmanu]

Maybe you should read that report BEFORE dissmissing it? What you are refering to was a a guided tour in a single, ordinary chinese hospital to which staff from the american embassy was invited. Harry Wu wasn't even present, nor was the US state departement. And it is actually adressed in the very report you trying to dissmiss. Besides this isn't about the organ harvesting, it's about the prejudces that made it possible.

[youon99]

Not a Single Sujiatun Death Is In Falun Gong's Case List

Here's what Falun Gong propaganda outlet clearwiscom said, nealy 3,000 disciples were presecuted to death.

Do you see the problem? Not a single death is from Sujiatun.

[youon99]

So where does this leave Epoch Times NY's allegation that 6,000 where kept in a concentration camp in Sujiatun, and 4,000 were subjected to vivisection?

IMHO Falun Gong is their own worst enemy. Why don't they just stick with the truth and go with these alleged cases and build them up with facts, rather than fabricating sensational allegation?

[Supenmanu]

suppose Ausschwitz would not yet have been liberated. How would you know who died there? Only from the Guards themselves, right? No other person could simply walk out and tell you the names of the people killed - and the guards aren't gonna tell you the names.

[banzaidawan]

Hey People: Go read some Chinese history and the role of cults throughout China's history. Start by a Google search on "White Lotus sect." That will explain it.

[Supenmanu]

yeah sure... why evaluate people individualy, when you can de-value them categoraly?

[Supenmanu]

German? How the heck did you come up with the idea that any of this has anything to do with Germany?

[fomiz]

haha

[calebeurope02]

Typical german propaganda machine against certain country and showing us the German media is the most evil organisations without any freedom of speech and truth but full of lies and prejustice.

[Blacktiefilms]

communism ist ein Utopischer Traum