Tridentine Mass

[kierondublin]

Glad to hear you are planning to become a Catholic. Hopefully you will come to know the beauty of this ancient rite of Mass so that when you are in countries which speak other languages, you will be able to attend a Mass which you will understand and which will be exactly the same as the one celebrated at home.

[Somespatanwarrior]

I am currently a catechumen with the church and honestly I am glad the mass is as it is. If I were to have walked into the church with latin being spoken and the priests back to the congregation I fear I may have felt out of place and alienated. With vernacular languages for the mass it feels much more umm idk welcoming I guess.

[tnucasisusej]

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[SanLUZARDO]

This Mass best represents our Catholic identity. How often in the Novus Ordo Mass do you hear Latin, Gregorian Chant and have the prayers in the fullest expression. Take a minute, google the differences and as a Catholic you will see what happened. Which would you really prefer? Be objective. Request a Tridentine Mass in at least one slot for Sundays. Get a Missal, the beautiful English is right alongside the Latin. Be part of our history.

[AndreasAntoniusMaria]

I have uploaded 2 full Tridentine masses on my channel. From the bassilica of Saint Agnes, Amsterdam the Netherlands (Holland). Served by 3 priests of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter.

[theophilusgonzales]

Very Solemn. Long Live the Roman Catholic Church and death to all False religions!

[evilunixuser1]

This is so different from what I grew up seeing. What a mistake they made changing the mass!

[Glldas]

Beautiful. 

[SuperRay1111]

I hope Cardinal Rosales will celebrate it too on the main altar on Manila Cathedral

[diafod]

@SuperRay1111 i went to my first Latin Mass two months ago and i completely agree with u guys. it inspires people to be holy unlike any other rite. there is actually a line at confession! u have to come in half hr early to get in, and its 90% young people! i believe that if brought back the cafeteria Catholics would go to Protestant churches where they belong and then we could make room for true Catholics!

[shreve99]

@diafod You are so right!  The Roman Catholic Church could once again be filled with...ROMAN CATHOLICS!

[FolkMusicFanatic]

@shotayez: I agree. The novus ordo is a protestant masonic mass. Funny coincidence that we carry the masonic term novus ordo in the Holy Church.

[shotayez]

Traditional mass isthe true mass, not Vatican 2 and their norvus order thing

[FAJALOU]

Why is the Consecration removed?

[hhold]

What church in Dublin holds Tridentine Mass on a regular babsis?

[kierondublin]

@hhold Mass in the extraordinary form is celebrated in St Kevin's Church, Harrington Street, Dublin 8, every day.

[WahreChristin]

"sic enim dilexit Deus mundum ut Filium suum unigenitum daret ut omnis qui credit in eum non pereat sed habeat vitam aeternam" (Joh.3,16)

[ChristainPatriot01]

Gloria Tibi Domine.:)

[HonoriousIV]

'Let the little children come unto me'. - Jesus, circa 31 AD

[wjweigand]

Starting with AUNPM

[dacatholicbandorgan]

Ironicly this video was posted in the day the Moto Propio "Summorum Pontificum" was released.

[Azarien]

OMG, what was that? ;-)

[Eskadron22]

Thank you, for that quote! How sobering the truth can be.

[summaphile]

Who made an erroneous argument? To whom did you address your statement?

[christianvs1]

Hey chaps! Do get your terminology right... if they are using the Missal of John XXIII (1962) as per the instructions of Summorum Pontificum, this is NOT the Tridentine Mass. A Tridentine Mass is that of the Missal of Pope St Pius V, 1570. In this video, the Extraordinary Form of the ONE Roman Rite (see Summorum Pontificum). One cannot use the 1570 Missal and be in communion wih Rome..

[summaphile]

Of course, one can't be in union with the heretics of Rome if one attends a true and valid mass said by the 1570 missal. The Summorum Pontificum is invalid anyway, since Ratzinger doesn't qualify under "Cum Ex Apostolatus Officio", sec. 6, part iii. Only, the True and valid Latin Tridentine Mass of Pope St. Pius V should be said for all perpetuity. No changes allowed by any others. Ratzinger is a heretic, and the JXXIII mass, indult mass, or false 1962 tridentine mass is blasphemous.

[ranranshi]

A God who can be served in only one way is no God!

[edae13]

What's with the beach at the start?

[mindspring57]

This is obviously a home movie, and apparently someone used the camera at the beach, and then went to church.

[edae13]

Are you mad or what?

[mindspring57]

No, I am not mad, but my comment seems like a reasonable explanation of what happened. Do you have a better explanation?

[edae13]

No I was being funny. Relax really

[kierondublin]

You're right. It was a holiday in Portugal. There's me with my baby son at the time in the foreground. Then I shot the Mass video on the same camera and my editing was rubbish!

[kierondublin]

@edae13 I was on holiday in Portugal with my family and edited it badly!!

[batatinhos]

Claro! Portugal é que é pa! ; )

[catholicpeter]

Whether in english or latin, the beauty of this mass is etheral and graces the celebrants with complete spiritual peace and comfort. To watch this mass, carries the soul to a place like heaven for a few minutes, before returning to the cold darkness.

The clutch of modernism and its sister heresies is a sad and unfortunate weight on our world today.

[Raven0065]

2 Tim 1: 13-14: Keep as your pattern the sound teaching you have heard from me, in the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus. With the help of the Holy Spirit who dwells in us, look after that precious thing given in trust. Cling to the True Church, founded on Peter, watered by the blood of 50000 martyrs, guided by the H.S, led by 250+ popes, eternally supported by Christ's promise. I pray She will survive the onslaught. Stay strong remnant. Pax Christi.

[matt3i6]

Oh Raven - "If anyone adds anything to them (my Words), God will add to him the plagues described in this book." Revelation 22:18

The true church isn't founded on Peter (a sinful man) JESUS IS THE ROCK. Go back to Luke 5:8 what's Peter's reaction when he realizes just who Jesus is? "Go away from me, Lord; I am a sinful man!"

Christ is the head of the church and it's founded solely and only on Him. (Colossians 1:18)

[Raven0065]

You are ignorant of the Truth, like many. You separate yourself from Him when you exist outside the Catholic Church. If you persist in your ignorance you ramain in heresy and cannot be saved.

[summaphile]

Read the encyclical "Quo Primum" and then, tell me how the novus ordo missae could possibly be valid. Go by dogma from the popes that upheld it. Not by some heretic sitting on the Chair of St. Peter masquerading as the true Vicar of Christ. For heavens sake, remember Galatians 1:8, and tell me how he can violate "Communicatio in Sacris" and "Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus" ? Ratzinger is an Anti-pope outside of the Mystical Body of Christ so how can he be head of something he is not a part?

[joel6575]

GreekOrthodoxy,It's people like you that lay the barrier to unity . how do you expect people that worship the same christian God as you to react? Can't you learn from the Church Fathers? What has chritian humility taught you? If you want to play with fire then you have met your match with the Traditionalists.You've met your match....

[DanVilAl]

He has no Christian humility. Have you seen his videos? He's even wearing a mask.

That's not even Christian.

[lobox47]

the true catholicism has a true mass

The greek orthodox church is schismatic and heretic!!!!

[lukamamatoto]

No it is not, its the sister church of the catholic church, the lung of the East.. Remember bless those who curse you

[etspiritusancti]

beautiful

[KAMIKAZR]

I need a true answer from a Catholic who is a Traditionalist, yet at the same time, does not get angry with me about this:

Is it a sin to defend a priest who says the New Mass, that I truly care about? He and I are like kin, and he is so sweet.

Some Traditionalists have already said that I am offically excommunicated, because of my defending this priest. I need a true answer.

[S5L80]

Well, if your priest-friend is orthodox and remains faithful and true to the teachings of the Church, then he should not be condemned. Though I prefer the Extraordinary (Tridentine) form of the Roman Rite, I hold that the Ordinary (Novus Ordo) Form of the Roman Rite is also valid, mainly because it has been promulgated and supported by the Papacy, and satisfies the needs of a valid sacrament. All that is needed to be a valid Mass are valid form, matter, and intention.

[S5L80]

Matter being a validly ordained priest consecrating pure wheat bread with no additives (unleavened in west, leavened in east) and pure grape wine mixed with water. Intention is that that valid priest intends on turning the bread and wine into the Precious Body and Blood of Jesus Christ. Form, the basic form of a Mass is simply the Words of Institution.

The Novus Ordo is licit because it is promulgated by the Pope.

I am a Traditionalist IN UNION with Rome.

[Priztoz]

way to go, good job. I also share your point of view.

[vgvip245]

I understand you've been taught this. Please read "Orthodoxy" by Bishop Kallistos. You will clearly see that even the Orthodox bishops call the Roman church the "Rock that does not sway", compared to the EO bishops that "sway".

So please, so some reading - hence the use of the word - ignorant.

Come out of the bubble you live in and you will clearly see the Light.

God bless.

[vgvip245]

ignorant

[GreekOrthodoxy]

Heretics.

[jaxjagsman]

really? i seem to recall most heresies being endorsed by eastern bishops ...

[HonoriousIV]

How does an excommunicate think to try a catholic?

[HonoriousIV]

Its a little ironic that such a charge that we catholics are heretics is laid to us by a schismatic!

[GreekOrthodoxy]

It's a little ironic that you chose to use the name Pope (Honorious) who was condemned six times by ecumenical councils as a heretic. Schism is from the Church, not from a see or Rome. Rome fell into schism from the Church a thousand years ago.

[DanVilAl]

Fanatic ignorant. =)

[DanVilAl]

For the one who put me a thumb down, I was talking about GreekOrthodoxy, not about this venerable mass. =)

[MTLFAN11]

What arrogance to change that which had been in effect for 1500 years. I hope that with the return of the Traditional Mass all Catholics DEMAND that their Chruch performs the traditional latin rite. The only way to effect this change is not to rant about the validity of the new mass and create confusion and doubt amongst those who know no different i.e under 50. but to reintroduce them to tradition, to THE MASS. Together, and only together can we effect change.

[dermie12]

we are getting it praise be

[frbjoern]

@MTLFAN11 I am sure you mean well but the sacred and holy Tridentine form of the Mass is not performed, it is celebrated!! Otherwise your comment is very important and thought provoking.Let us not forget, the most important thing or all of us is where do we stand before our blessed Lord Jesus. Until we are in a right relationship with Him, the sacred liturgy would be a mute issue.

[MTLFAN11]

@frbjoern Yes, it is celebrated you are correct. Poor choice of words on my part. BTW the correct term is "moot', not "mute".

[frbjoern]

@MTLFAN11 Oops! of course you are correct: "moot" issue!

Anyway I wish you and yours a peaceful and happy feast of the Nativity of our Lord Jesus Christ!

[MTLFAN11]

@frbjoern same to you and yours....Pax

[StSimonMartyr]

"I am a priest who for over ten years collaborated in a work that became a notable harm to the Catholic Faith.

I wish now to apologize before God and the Church and to renounce decisively my personal sharing in that damaging project.

I am speaking of translating the new post-Vatican II Latin liturgy into the English language, when I was a member of the Advisory Board of the (I.C.E.L.)."

It waters down the doctrine that the Eucharist is a true Sacrifice."

Fr Stephen Somerville 1-19-2005.

[StPeterTheRock]

Oh how I wish the Latin Mass was back, everywhere!!!

[sebreathnach]

I believe in One Holy Roman Catholic And Apostolic Church founded by the PisoCaesars and Titus Flavius Vespasian!

[rpgabc123]

Why is there no seventh candle for this Solemn High Mass? Since he is the ordinary of this diocese he is privileged to use the seventh candle for this Mass.

[milan1302]

Because it's Lent.

[DanVilAl]

Because it was on Lent.

[extc0please]

like hornay!!

[unterland]

As a deist, I'm fairly suspicious of organized religion in general; however, this service is very beautiful, and if the people involved felt they were being cheated by hearing it in Latin, I think they'd either go to a more mainstream church or become protestants.

[rpgabc123]

I can tell you, that I have gone to numerous Traditional Latin Mass and the pews are flourishing with people, unlike your typical Novus Ordo Church.

[rpgabc123]

Nice Mass! However, there are two things I can spot directly that should be corrected. His Grace should be holding the Ciborium with the thumb and the index finger closed, the Sacred Host should only be held with the thumb and for fingers. The Deacon should also be holding the paten during the "Ecce Agnus Dei"

[lovableccentric]

Hahaha, it's so funny how this video starts on the beach with Wham playing in the background then quickly cuts to a pontifical Mass.

[abddfrthg]

The New Mass does not manifest Faith in the Real Presence of our Lord-the Traditional Mass manifests it unmistakably! Not to mention that Six Protestant ministers collaborated in making up the New Mass. Less conversions and a decrease of seminarians since the start of the New Mass. The New Mass is such as to facilitate profanations of the Holy Eucharist, which occur with a frequency unheard of with the Traditional Mass. These are just a few reasons why Catholics should attend the Latin Mass.

[abddfrthg]

A "referential" novus ordo mass were usually if not all done by good priests who also longed to say the Latin Mass but the majority of bishops kept a lid on that. Now that any priest can do so without obtaining permission, I highly recommend the Latin Mass! It is centered on God and doews not invite abuse!

[abddfrthg]

No one is claiming that the Roman Catholics are the only Catholics. I, myself have attended several Byzantine Churches for Divine Liturgy. Although, very beautiful, Modernism has crept in there also. Maybe not all.The Tridentine Latin Mass has no room for modernistic inventions, and the Priests who are loyal to this tradional Mass, are true lovers of Christ and want all Glory and Honor given to Almighty God and show it by their reverence in how they say the Mass.

[Catholicteen15]

True. There are, I belive, 23 eastern rites of Catholicisim and one western or latin rite, which is the Roman Church. Allthough they seem seprate, they all are a part of the 1 Catholic Church. All rites have Bishops and clergy with true apostolic sucsession and all submit themselves to the Roman Pontiff. The communion recived at any of the rites is the same Eucharist.

[Catholicteen15]

As for modernisim, sadly it seems the Novus Ordo mass in the Latin rite has been the primary breeding ground for modern liturgy. Thats why I prefer the Tridentine mass. Although theres nothing wrong with a reverantly done N.O. mass, like mentioned by the person i'm replying to, the Tridentine mass doesn't leave room for modernistic inventions.

[abddfrthg]

Beautiful! This is the TRUE MASS..How Blessed we Catholics are! Give God the Honor & Glory which He so Rightly Deserves! Only through this Reverent, Holy and "True" Mass is this done!

[JohnPaulParks]

The Tridentine Mass is the traditional liturgy of the Roman Rite. There are four other principal rites of the Universal Church, and the Tridentine Mass has never been used in them. For example, the Byzantine Rite uses the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom, which is older than Tridentine, and has been described as "the closest thing to heaven on earth." Use of the Tridentine Mass is not essential to being a Catholic, and Roman Catholics are not the only Catholics.

[SzelestWschWiatru]

What's that beach doin' at the beginning?

[Nielsng]

Haha yeah lol, must have been a holiday video.

[kierondublin]

I filmed the Mass on the end of a video of my family on holiday in Portugal. Sorry about that!

[gattetto]

Simply beautiful.

[StatueSmasher]

Martin Luther got excommunicated for translating the Bible into the common tongue, Hitler was never excommunicated from the RC. If It was not for Luther you would still have your Bible in Latin to this day. The only reason the RC had to have it in English was because Luther let the cat out of the bag.

You see the Devil dose not want you to read the Bible at all and that's why the RC had suppressed it for centuries and to this day the Vatican dose not encourage you to read it and you don't.

[Catholicteen15]

Hmm...I'm assuming by the name "Statue smasher" and your comments about Catholicisim that your one of those people who would rather dedicate their entire life to destroying the church Our Lord established than praying to Our Lord.

[Catholicteen15]

Martin Luther got excommunicated because he got radical in his teachings to the point were he was a heretic.

[Catholicteen15]

#1 The Catholic church has never, NEVER discouraged reading the Bible. We read it at church every day and most people read it at home as well. We may not read it as much as protestants/evangelicals/funda­mentalist do but thats because unlike non-Catholic christians, we prefer to worship God, not some book.

[Catholicteen15]

#2 Is having the Bible in latin nessecarily a bad thing. Oh, God forbid someone actually learn a second language once in awhile! <<(sarcasim) Besides, the latin Bible is the true accurate one, unlike some. (cough) (cough) king james version (cough)

On a lighter note, i love the roman rite mass. I'm glad to see Church Hierarchy performing it. Maybe someday it'll be the liturgical norm.

[StatueSmasher]

What God? Catholics worship a small piece of round cookie called a "host" and eat their God at Mass. The Bible is not just some ordinary "book" it is the written word of God. A true Christians will worship Jesus in spirit and truth and will obide in the written word of God. Jesus is the "Word", ie the Bible, the "Word" made Flesh.

[Catholicteen15]

(sigh) It looks like years of your poor Bible interpretations and broken theology has led you into steryotypicalisim of the True Church. First of all, it's only a "host" until it is concecrated, then it's the Body of Christ. And the reason Catholics "eat their God" is because Our Lord commanded us to. Everything we do is from the Bible. And yes, I can use the Bible to prove my religion true.

[StatueSmasher]

There is absolutely no mention in the Bible of the clean precision unbroken sun shaped "Hosts" with the inscription IHS that is handed out at Mass. At our lord's supper Jesus broke the bread and handed out BROKEN pieces of bread to all the disciples representing his broken body, he also passed around the cup representing his blood that was shed, one rarely gets the cup at mass, and the priest seems to be the only person privileged.

[Catholicteen15]

Our Lord used unleavened bread and wine and so do we. The wafers are made of unleavened bread, the reason we make them so precisley is because since they will soon become the Body of Christ then should be made to look as perfect as possible, just as Christ is perfect. and BTW at each mass their is a large wafer than can be broken called a loaf, it is broken (Just as Jesus broke the bread). Also, i've never seen a wafer with IHS on it. All the one's i've seen had crosses.

[StatueSmasher]

Its true about the bread being unleavened this is to represent no yeast as yeast is impure, the wine is also to be unfermented many churches violate this. IHS goes back to the 17th & 18th century. We use the one "loaf" and pass it around each taking a piece off it, the wine is also passed around, As a former Catholic I would have only had the cup at private family services. It should be a at all services.

[Catholicteen15]

I'll agree with you that I feel that all people should drink from the main chalice used in the Concecration, but theirs just 1 problem. They can make it with 1 chalice if its a small parish, but you can't fill a chalice with enough of the Blood of Christ for an entire cathedral. Thats why more than one chalice is used at mass.

[StatueSmasher]

Our lords supper dose not have to be celebrated at every service, we may only have it every second or third week, there are times myself when I do not feel worthy of participating, such when I feel I am not right with God, and have sin im my life.

[Catholicteen15]

I'm not sure how it is at your church. In Catholicisim, one is only required to recive communion once a year, but Catholics are encouraged to recive it as often as possible since reciveing the Body of Christ is kinda like pouring gasoline on the fire of a persons faith. As for not being right with God, thats what confession is for.

[StatueSmasher]

In our church it is up to the individual and there is no rules on when and how often one would take it.

When I participate in it I would pause for prayer for a few minutes and think back to my former life, ie dealing in drugs and living a bad life and thank jesus for delivering me from all that wickedness.

By taking the bread and wine it reminds me of what Christ has done for my personal life by sacraficing his broken body and blood on the cross.

[Catholicteen15]

As for worthyness, to put it simply nobody is ever worthy of reciving the Body of Christ (which is why in the mass we say "Lord, I am not worthy to recive you, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed" {Thats if you go to the Novus Ordo mass})

[StatueSmasher]

In our church one would have to be a professed Christian before one would take the bread and wine otherwise it would be a meaningless ritual. I would also refuse to take it if I felt i was not right with God, ie I had sin in my life. I would have to confess it out and get right with god before I would feel worthy of participating.

[Catholicteen15]

Also, I wouldn't talk too accusivley about the propers of communion considering your church prolly uses grape juice instead of wine for communion, if your church does communion at all.

[StatueSmasher]

And what about Hitler? was he not radical enough? ?

[Catholicteen15]

First of all, was Hitler even Catholic? Second of all, how the heck would you know who the Church excommunicates or doesn't?

[StatueSmasher]

Hitler was raised in a Catholic family. He went to Catholic schools and served as an altar boy in the Catholic Church. He considered himself a Catholic until the day he died. In 1941 he told Gerhard Engel, one of his generals: "I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so." In fact, Hitler was never excommunicated from the Catholic Church, and Mein Kampf was not placed on the Church's Index of Forbidden Books

[GrumpyOldTroll]

The Pope didn't need to excommunicate Hitler for a simple reason: Hitler had excommunicated himself well before he was famous by omitting to fulfil the Easter Communion, as he ceased to practise the Faith that he no longer believed once he left home.

[vint7107]

actually the vatican came out with an encyclical in about the mid 1930s condemning the entire Nazi party. they condemned them before any nation did....GO ROME!!!

[StatueSmasher]

Not so much destroying it but EXPOSING it! The Roman Catholic religion is just an evil pagan cult dressed in the words and names found in the Bible. There is Nothing in rhe Bible about Popes, Nuns, Confessions to a priest, holy water, statue worshiping, eating sun shaped wafers, extreme unction, etc. BTW I am an EX Catholic and If I had my way I would "smash" all standing images.

[Catholicteen15]

It's sad to see people that were once Catholic leave the Church Jesus established because of the lies and misconceptions the devil spreads, may you someday come back to your home.

[StatueSmasher]

In fact Jesus said the quite oposite, he said take the narrow road, touch no unclean thing, "Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities" Reveltion 18.

[GrumpyOldTroll]

As for the doctrine of the Real Presence in the Eucharist, I recommend that you read prayerfully John vi, especially verses 51--66. "I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. ... Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. ... For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed."

[StatueSmasher]

I dont think this docterine holds water according to Acts 17 vs 24.

"The God who made the world and everything in it, He who is Lord of heaven and earth, DOSE NOT LIVE IN SHRINES MADE BY HUMAN HANDS, NOR IS HE SERVED BY HUMAN HANDS, as though He needed anything; since He Himself gives to all mortals life and breath, and all things". Acts 17: 24

[twentymilz]

"Dwelleth not in temples"... God is not contained in temples; so as to "need" them for his dwelling, or any other uses, as the heathens imagined.

Further, the Divinely inspired author here is talking of pagan idols and pagan temples...he is not talking about Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament, which is explicitly described in John 6, the last supper accounts of the synoptic Gospels, 1 Corinthinians 11, etc.

[bklynbroker]

you are prime example of why we need better catechizing. you know so little about the church you were brought up in and have let other folks tell you lies about it. i will pray for you.

[StatueSmasher]

If Jesus had any thing to do with the consecration at mass it would taste like blood, but it DOSENT! It just tastes like ordinary supermarket wine.

a priest is just an ordinary man dressed up in a religious costume with seven years training of religious rituals and tradition. The Bible says it all, "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth". 2 Timothy 2vs7

[bklynbroker]

"I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you" (John 6:53)

My brother or sister, is Christ a liar? Its called a Mystery of the Faith. just like Jesus' conception and resurrection are mysteries. Look up transubstantiation.

[StatueSmasher]

Jesus used metaphores, Do you believe he turns himself into a "door" when he states, "I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture". John 10vs9

Likewise why should I believe that he turns himself into a loaf of bread at mass.

[bklynbroker]

He also used parables. the bible, both old and new testamenst, use metaphor, parable and are sometime literal. You have to ask yourself WHY would he be using a metaphor here. usually when speaking with his disciples he was straigh forward with other he used metaphor and parables. he is also the Word made flesh, was that a metaphor?

[bklynbroker]

Of course a priest is just an ordinary man. The disciples and the apostles were "ordinary men" but they were given an extraordinary mission by Christ to convert the world to Him. A priest, and ordinary man, has the same mission and this mission has been handed down unbroken through the ages from them to present day priests.

[StatueSmasher]

The desciples never attempted to change bread and wine into human body parts, something only God is capable of doing. When I participate in our lords supper, I remember what Christ has done for me by shedding his body and blood for my sins on the cross, nothing more than that.

[bklynbroker]

I can only help you so far. the rest is up to Christ to open your heart, but if you think we are talking about body parts here you are missing the point of what Jesus said.

And yes the Disciples, Apostles and Early Church fathers all prayed the Mass and understood the Eucharist (the loaf of bread as you day) as Christ's body as Catholics do today that's where it comes from....

[StatueSmasher]

You dont "break bread" as the scriptures command, instead it is passed around in precision unbroken disks. Only the priest breaks his bit, as for the wine ("Blood" as you call it), the priest drinks it all himself!!!

[bklynbroker]

Its called Sacred Tradition. Funny how people criticize the mass when its what all christians did for almost 1600 years. and what we as Catholics, the Church begun by Christ, still do today.

[StatueSmasher]

No, read the Acts, Early Christians broke bread, they held strict accordace to the letters (Epistles and Gospels)passed around, ie Acts. Ie Baptism was by Full immersion, it was a symbol of solidarity one gave after repenting and recieving the Holy Spirit from Christ. Sprinkling babies means absolutly nothing and only gets a babies head wet!.

[StatueSmasher]

Wrong, the mass was a pagan ritual invented by the Catholic Church after Constantine founded the cult. Jesus has absolutly nothing got to do with the mass, if he did, we would be tasting actual flesh & blood at the consecration but we dont!

[bklynbroker]

You are so wrong sir. Constantine did not start the Church, Christ did and the Mass is certainly no "pagan" ritual but one used by the very first Christians...

[bklynbroker]

This following was written in 155 AD by st. Justin (130 years before Constantine was born!):

On the day we call the day of the sun, all who dwell in the city or country gather in the same place.

The memoirs of the apostles and the writings of the prophets are read, as much as time permits.

[bklynbroker]

When the reader has finished, he who presides over those gathered admonishes and challenges them to imitate these beautiful things.

Then we all rise together and offer prayers* for ourselves . . .and for all others, wherever they may be, so that we may be found righteous by our life and actions, and faithful to the commandments, so as to obtain eternal salvation.

[bklynbroker]

When the prayers are concluded we exchange the kiss.

Then someone brings bread and a cup of water and wine mixed together to him who presides over the brethren.

He takes them and offers praise and glory to the Father of the universe, through the name of the Son and of the Holy

Spirit and for a considerable time he gives thanks (in Greek: eucharistian) that we have been judged worthy of these gifts.

[bklynbroker]

When he has concluded the prayers and thanksgivings, all present give voice to an acclamation by saying: 'Amen.'

When he who presides has given thanks and the people have responded, those whom we call deacons give to those present the "eucharisted" bread, wine and water and take them to those who are absent."

[bklynbroker]

That Mass described is pretty much the same one we as Catholics celebrate today! So yes we are celebrating as the first Christians did and I pray that someday God opens your heart to understanding.

[hitokiridx6993]

Very true indeed! =)

[WDWHolidays]

Why do you evangelical's hate so much?

[herakles120]

once a catholic, now a protestant, tomorrow a muslim?

[twentymilz]

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[twentymilz]

Answered (demolished) at catholic dot com

[PoisontheHoney]

Amazing...finally a Bishop gets the guts to go up and be a Catholic. However, what was with the beach scene at the beginning.

[kierondublin]

Er, whoops! It's my first video posting. That scene of the Archbishop was shot on the end of a video of a family holiday in Portugal!!