Pregnant In Prison: ACLU case protects access to medical care

[BrianDWalker3445]

diarhia ? ewww

[sinnomngrl418]

rwstoney is correct across the board.Addiction IS A DISEASE.It has been classified that way by The AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION,who arent exactly known to be a bunch of freewheeling hippies.A disease has to meet specific criteria,and addiction meets all of them.Would a diabetic be denied Insulin in jail? What happened here IS criminal,and all those involved should be held accountable.

[nannamom1]

In answer to your question. Yes she was an addict but she was in recovery and taking a medication to help her manage that addiction. The jail withheld that medication from her and that is what caused her withdrawal. Without that medication she would loose her baby. She was not abusing drugs any longer, she was in treatment.

[luvingram61]

bottom line,she was denied her medication, that officer scares me!

[lovajj]

This women is a joke.If she really cared abut her baby she would not have done drugs.Yes she should be charged with endangering a newborn fetus.Sounds like she wants to get money for her habit.

[LEONLOVINIT]

Also "rwstoney", a complaint in this type of civil action only contains information given by the plaintiff and contains allegations that will be proven or disproven in court. The "facts" as presented in court may or may not uphold her allegations. I would take the statement with a grain of salt given the fact that the allegations are coming from the mouth of a known drug addict. People like her, are the reason people like me will continue to have gainfull employment.

[rwstoney]

@LEONLOVINIT - My opinion is based mostly on the statements, referenced in the complaint, made by Dr. Kenneth Cairns. He is not a "known drug addict." "Probable Cause" as to whether or not the actions of the defendants in this civil case rise to the level of being criminal does not need to be determined only from testimony given in court.

It is deeply disturbing that a member of the law enforcement community would even use the phrase "People like her."

[LEONLOVINIT]

As in any civil action this is a "he said she said" situation. If the jail withheld medication at the advice of the facilities medical professional then no, they're not liable. All detetention facilities have a policy manual that is to be followed. If in this case it wasn't, well then heads should roll. It's easy to sit in rightious indignation when presented with one opinion on what the facts are in a case. We as a society must be held accountable for our actions both civilian and professional.

[LEONLOVINIT]

This however is but the opinion of a lowely public servant who deals with the worst of society so that others can sleep a little safer at night. I love my work and do feel for the people who have gone the route that this young lady has. Empathy I feel, sympathy I do not.

[LEONLOVINIT]

And one last comment.. the plaintiff will likely win this case on paper as it is a proven fact that insurance companies do not have the stamina to fight a drawn out court case. Their Attorney will likely recommend a settlement to avoid a long and expensive court battle.

[beefygoblin]

The fact they actualy had to pull her out, means there was little denial of the withholding of said drug, and she was undergoing treatment. Meaning she is no more a drug addict than George Bush jr is (as a former booze user, sure it's legal, but it's no less addictive...hence his recovery story).

Just becouse your an addict doesn't mean you don't have rights. Don't be a schmuck.

[LEONLOVINIT]

I personally arrested this girl on Fail to Appear warrants 3 times. She was incarcerated for believing that she was above the rules the rest of us have to live by. She didn't believe she had to see a Judge so she didn't. That is called "Contempt of Court" and that it is a "crime". She also nade a concious decision to do drugs the first time. So exactly why should I have sympathy for her?

[xXxSweetxXxLolitaxXx]

@LEONLOVINIT Even if you have no sympathy for her, at least show some emotion for her unborn child at the time. By not giving the mother the medication she needed, they could have caused her to miscarry.

[reallifeism]

This chick is, was and will always be a drug addict. Prior to this child her other children were born drug addicts. However she was never charged for endangering her children. Further she is trying to kick a drug habit while pregnant with her sixth child. Get real nobody gets sentenced to jail for a traffic citation. She obviously habitually puts a middle finger up to obeying the laws. Poor choice for plaintiff ACLU! I hope CPS takes your kids from you!

[XXXphukitXXX]

Withdrawls for what? If she was a druggy, then that is her own fault. She didn't think of that when becoming pregnant. But I do feel if it was withdrawls, we should of gave her the proper meds to help her, but technically its her own damn fault. Putting her child at risk, she should also be help accountable for that as well. To put harm on your unborn child is her own fault. She should be charged with endangering a unborn fetus. But no, I don't know the specifics of this story. Correct me here.

[fireincarnation2]

They really didn't care if her or her baby died in jail there, all over a traffic citation? It's amazing the crimes you can die for in jail.

[dudefromgermany]

fat chicks are gay

[nannamom1]

Weather she was pregnant or not. Medication should never be withheld just because your in jail.

Addicts have a right to proper medical treatment, and if they have a prescription from their doctor it should be given to them.

[selis88rn]

What does being fat have to do with anything? What they did was wrong. With drawl is dangerous for anyone. Especially a pregnant women.

[dudefromgermany]

she is a FAT ASS

[rwstoney]

I've read the complaint for this case. I think each of the defendants should also be charged criminally. In addition, Dr. Irwin should be investigated by the Medical board to see if he should lose his license to practice medicine.