This is how to wire a house! - This Old House clip

[PilotVBall]

American electrical systems are substandard. That's garbage. Europeans do it best and with less drama.

[kieranmullen2]

@PilotVBall Examples?

[serpentineflame]

wth?



[LaserBeam002]

This vid has absolutely nothing to do with the average homeowner. 

[rickcain2320]

Is this guy planning to run a marijuana grow operation in his house? 400 amps!?!

[MendingMedia]

Aren't we now using CAT6?

[smcphee1000]

i have 2 words flood incurence

[bilzup]

Those MCB's look shit

[mnskeeter]

@bilzup Especially since they knew it was going to be on TV.

[NeoQuello]

wow.. what i really like about this show is they actually focus on the renovation and show you how its done.. unlike the other shows.. which is full of drama and moody bitches arguing and shit...

[zzpianoman]

@NeoQuello Unfortunately, even TOH nowadays has resorted to this format. I miss the old days when they actually showed you how to do plumbing, electrical, carpentry. Now it's all focusing on lifestyle, trips to factories and other annoying crap.

[easterlingderek34]

Wow they still have space in that Breaker Box. I did a 400 amp in an 5000 heated house and we used every last breaker spaces and then after that to finish the house we had to had another meter and 200 amp box. We ran Bose Speakers in it.

[smrio]

interviewer sounds kind of sarcastic...if i were there i'd knock him out to make sure he's working ok.

[OlympusHeavyCavalry]

I have always liked this old house. I find it interesting what happens with the whole project.

[FourCoughs]

No on/off switch? Shhhees...

[wjf1692]

real technical

[src438]

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[SINISTERxONER]

That's a whole Crestron system, very expensive. But it is very common to have automation such as this in higher end houses. I've been doing the same stuff for 8 years. I'm doing it right now in fact, in Huntington Beach.

[ljromo]

@SINISTERxONER Yeap Crestron it is, clx-2dim8 modules, and PAC2 processor, have you had any issue with PAC2's stopped responding randomly?

[JDK1981]

yeah must be nice to be a rich douchbag XD, ROFL ! its like they only have 40000000000000 dimmer cpu panel, rofl i got a dimmer switch and im still not to lazy to touch it. I HOPE WATER FLOODS HIS BASEMENT ! XD

[JDK1981]

yeah must be nice to be a rich douchbag XD, ROFL ! its like they only have 40000000000000 dimmer cpu panel, rofl i got a dimmer switch and im still not to lazy to touch it.

[JDK1981]

yeah must be nice to be a rich douchbag XD

[tamiasthechipmunk]

Overkill!!

[evilfreethinker]

Rich bastards...

[JOSEBELJOR]

The "BOILA" LOL

[NETWizzJbirk]

Wait until they try to put 80 different compact fluorescents into this house with 80 different dimmers

[migraine516]

Soooooo... George is a billionaire ?

[mikesavad]

i remember when this old house used some poor guy, he helped, people said stuff and it was done. this is a bit much, i would love to see the rest of the house. i imagine the white houses basement looks something like this.

[graverobber35]

OMG , a whole room for electrical systems. Just wait a year until all that shit starts to fail. George will need a full-time electrician to maintain those systems.

This Old House gets a lot of materials donated for advertisements. No REAL homeowner would have any of this in a house. Too costly and too much maintenance.

[Gizmologist09]

@graverobber35 You might want to Google home theaters. This actually is quite common. I worked on one in St. Louis that was about 1 million. These folks spend 2-3,000. for EACH recliner in the theater.

[d44102]

I have 2 words for all this flood insurance

[CJurasin]

Wow......this must have cost that homeowner a BUNDLE!!! Hmmmm....... I wonder how much that home is worth now that the housing market TANKED and the economy now has has COLLAPSED!!!

Poor guy, I'll bet he's now UPSIDE DOWN in his mortgage!!

[mikesound87]

what is the show number?

[keepntyme]

George has vinyl records ??? I Think Not, He Has GOLD Records!!! Only the best for George. George do you have any single daughters???

[biped19]

You would think that these "smart" rich people add the good sense of taking some of that house's energy requirements off the grid.

[griffgriff100]

Two words: holy f**k. 6 fricken miles of cable!?!?! That's what I want my house to have. What season was this? I want to watch the rest of it now.

[vjmeht]

This was from the 25th Anniversary season of TOH where they did their biggest remodel job and presumably most expensive. The owner was some dude name George who was in the biomedical industry, not sure if he still had a mortgage on the house but he must have made a fortune to pay for the upgrade and renovation. I liked this season but I didn't care for the homeowner George, he was like the typical math genius, socially irritating and beligerant. At times very rude to the TOH crew.

[pentium3000]

Holy Fuck :O

[SeberHusky]

This must be Bill Gate's house? lol

[tripjet999]

Meanwhile, other Americans are starving.

[Davidbzm01]

yeah sure. who can afford that set up.. wtf

[TheJoseph313]

Who owns this freakin house!!??

[pitchyellow]

simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. all these electronics then a crappy cheap amp *NAD* in the rack. no audiophile put their amps in the basement, period.

[702dirtrider]

@pitchyellow , as well as there running slow cat 5 ethernet cable as well, with all that money why not run the latest stuff

[maddynguyen]

@702dirtrider not running but plugging & playing. This is OLD house by current std.

[81minuten]

@702dirtrider cat 5 and cat 6 dont difer in sprrd

[crazedgunmanvideo]

@81minuten Cat5 is typically 100Mbps or less; Cat5e is 1Gbps or less; Cat6 is 1Gbps or less. There's a difference in -maximum- throughput, if weighed side-by-side ceteris paribus.

[dancebossdotcom]

Is this all in one house, Geez!!!!

[hornstra1]

So where is the candle and the matches??

[fragglesparky]

jaysus who lives in that house,some ball of cables in that basement,would like to work on a job like that though you would learn alot

[boomster999]

The video in this is a joke! Waste of fricken money! One word boys!!! HDMI!!! Audio video all in high definition!

[elijah5791]

@boomster999 Haha! You have no idea what you're talking about!

First, HDMI is limited to around 50' without amps. Second, HDMI has nothing to do with speakers, automation, lighting control, or 90% of what this client was installing. Third, for video distribution HDMI cables are about the worst possible choice, in terms of price and complexity.

Now, was it a waste of money? Well, that is relative, but I promise you that to achieve what this client wanted, wiring like this is essential!

[sincitylocal702]

only a real idiot measures wiring in a house in miles... stupid ass

[elijah5791]

@sincitylocal702 Would you prefer measuring in kilometers? Meters? Feet? Inches?

How else do you quantify the total amount of wiring being pulled in the home? I suppose you'd prefer him to say, "There's 12,000 ft. of Cat5e, 6,000 ft. of RG6, 10,000 ft. of 8AWG, 9,000 ft. of 22 AWG..." or something like that?

Yeah, I prefer, "...over six miles of wire in this house..." It's just more dramatic!

[sincitylocal702]

i think this is absolutely retarded. power conditioners and lighting control systems in a house? dumb as f$*#. and a dimmer panel?. he is just probably too lazy to get up off his fat ass to turn on the switch. the only things that are actually relevant is the audio visual system for the tv and sound system. the fact that the thermostat is tied in with it too isnt too shabby. yeah what ever happened to wifi?? but wow. what a waste of money.. MORON. i hope it burns down

[elijah5791]

@sincitylocal702 You may think it's retarded, but it's actually very common in high-end homes.

If you have the money to afford a premium A/V system (i.e. NOT Big Box store stuff), you better believe that power conditioning is essential to delivering on the system's potential.

The lighting control wasn't only for the A/V system, but for the whole house. We install these systems, and our clients realize enormous energy and cost savings over time. Green in more ways than one!

[flatlander1007]

WTF. Wanna bet this house in in foreclosure by now.

[linagee]

Hard to believe they needed all of this funny business before there were things like Insteon. (Nowadays, why would you do all of that extra wiring when you can just use wireless switching? If it's just as reliable - and the technology HAS gotten there - no need to do all that remodeling.)

[tonyteb]

harmonics

[FreezEntertainment]

i dream about this every night, i never thought it could come true.

[vuetube]

Ahh Gnu Englanders "this is a balanced powah transformah". Don't you love that the Public Broadcasting Show is called This OLD house, but you'd have to be rich to pay for ANY project I've ever seen them do out there. Some of these people's permits and historical society fees cost more than many people's homes.

Love the projects, none the less!

[ScorpionLilMizz]

Wow!!!

[RandallFlaggNY]

I need a Kleenex....

[strongbad73]

to bad none of us will ever be able to afford any of this. thanks for making me feel like im working my ass off for nothing.

[fragglesparky]

what type of house are they wiring the white house

[deluxedookie]

kevin o'conner is a dip shit  didnet even know wat a coxial or cat5 was lol, wrong show for him.

[gumby511]

it is an informative show. He has to present the show as if he is is coming from the views point of view and ask dumb ed down questions. Have you never seen the show before?

[5cottee]

2:21 - 2:23

Presenter "So is there some sort of intelligent brain that works those"

The electrician is like yea *pfft* of course :/

[TravelBeam]

Rewiring a concrete wall house is a totally different adventure in endurance for the homeowner. check out REWIRING on TravelBeam channel.

[Goofus5453]

To bad the houseing market has fell all to hell, i wired house's from 2001 till 2009 full speed and it then crashed, laid off.

[ClassicElectricNJ]

That'd be great to get see this stuff for real. The audio/ video system specifically.

[hoppes9]

This old billionaire's house. Sheesh.

[HappyDiscoDeath]

@hoppes9 no kidding. houses like this with full media and the prefab houses are filled with the latest in high-tech, but they're insanely expensive at half a mil or more.

[uuusmar]

@hoppes9 Yup exactly.....I worked for a "B" for a couple years....he bought a big old awesome house and had it remodeled....and the electric/AV looked just like this video.

[nYcLiveWire1]

sick work ,, my hats off to the boys good job

[TheOldCrankyWorkshop]

This was in 2005 or so, if I remember right; I wonder how much of that stuff is obsolete now.

The customer is *not* always right.

[mightie1]

with the current momentum of wireless technology all of those cat 5s and speaker wires would become obsolete relatively soon. If they want to stay wired they can also go the HDMI 1.4 route which is soon coming out; it will carry audio, video and internet all in one.

[elijah5791]

@mightie1 First, wireless technology is very limited in bandwidth, and far more so than hardwire. Cat5e already EXCEEDS the limits of WiFi, so it's faster, more secure, and definitely NOT becoming obsolete very soon.

Second, with so many devices going wireless you're ending up with to much noise in homes for devices to function reliably; so wires are always preferable.

Third, HDMI 1.4 is limited to 50' without amps, and is wholly unsuited for what this client was wanting.

[studpuppy69]

Watch out for copper thieves...

[sonofpregnant]

Too many wires. big electrical hazzard

[jimmywilkes]

wow

[biglak]

i hope the install a smoke detector down there

[mdcorreia]

This home owner must have millions to waste. No need for all that stuff, a waste of money!

[PatchKitSmall]

lol not a waste to him, apparently.

[scoobydog411]

why does the guy asking the questions do all the talking ?

[timberfeller6]

All that b.s.- just to listen to a scratchy old LP! What a pathetic joke...

[manofmusicx]

that make up looked like shit

[SkyFitsHeaven24]

I remember seeing this a few years back. It was one of those "moderne" homes originally built in the 1950's. This particular home has more wiring than any other they did on This Old House.

Definitely overkill though and a total waste of materials. Nowadays everything has gone wireless, at least for data transmission, and most people have cell phones so those multimedia systems are already obsolete.

[proaudiohd]

@SkyFitsHeaven24 - since when do cell phones make home theaters obsolete? If anything, flat screen TV's and surround sound are even more common now than 2005. As is home networking with a rack in the basement.. Wireless is convenient but it's not as fast, reliable, or secure as wired. This installation is still very current, and desired.

[ottlmr]

i love this show so much i never miss it

[borissh86]

i want to see upstairs after all that complicated wiring.....

is there a follow up...with how they finished?

[MondoBeno]

I've worked in home renovation, but I'd never do the electric work if I weren't a licensed electrician. You can't afford to mess up when it comes to electricity.

[wallasky]

Who in the world would own a house that requires this kind of electrical set-up?

[mellowmark1]

Someone with plenty of money.

[electricalron]

Usually we call them, "customers"

[deejaynrgky]

their methods of installation and kit used is so different from how we do things in the uk, i cant beleive they run seperate cabels from the distributions boards to every single outlet, thats insane, and a big waste of materials.

[telmnstr]

This is *NOT* common in the US. Most American homes will have 6+ outlets and possible light circuits on a single 110/120 breaker. They had to run single runs for each light in order to use those dimmers. It would be more efficient in materials if the dimmers were closer to the fixtures and just run the data line to each dimmer pack.

[raursf]

Even though it's not common in US installations like this, I've seen many other common instalations in US, much less complex than this one shown in the video, and there's still a waste of materials comparing to how stuff is done in Australia, Europe, South America and other parts of the world.

[MultiTalentedMan]

Agreed

[raursf]

Not only in UK, but in most parts of the world! I'm not those types of people that hate americans, I'm just saying that they waste too much materials with no actual need for it. It's a waste of copper, metal, wood, plastics, it's a waste of everything! I'm from Brazil and have seen how electrical stuff is done in UK and other parts of the world and it's similar to how we do here, but completly different from what they do in US and things are as safe. So much complexity, more thing to go wrong

[OlegKostoglatov]

Most houses are not wired that way, this place is completely over the top by anyone's standards. The typical house will have one 200 amp circuit breaker panel with an assortment of single and double throw breakers for the various branch circuits. A typical branch circuit would be 120 volts, with a 15 amp circuit breaker, using 14 gauge wire that would power up to 12 outlets, light fixtures, or a combination of both. So there may be 20 to 25 branch circuits on a 200 amp panel in a typical house.

[Tibeal]

where's Norm ?!

[jc1305us]

I believe this is from a mid century modern hoise in Cambridge MA. The owner's name is George Mabry, and man did he go ALL out. Not an expense was spared.

[bedfordpreneur]

If a home owner knows they're going to be in the house for the rest of their lives, it's worth it to make the house exactly like they want it.

[tkeosaksith]

"we have the refrigeratah, the ey handlah, and the Boilah"...ahaha I love this show!

[jmr1068204]

lol, yeah, that's awesome. I like how Norm and the other guy pronounce "drawers" as "draws". XD

[CCrossfan]

Boilah

[doublearon86]

wow! thats crazy

[nrhbmw]

this is crazy!!!

[willo890]

I dont think that the Db was to Ip2x ipxxb or ip4x also the earth clamp was not bs 951, there was no grommits in the backboxes, askin for the cable to be shorted tut tut!!

[rgsgww]

They forgot to use conduit to the data jacks for easy pulling of new wires

[mortson978]

I love this show

[chompychomps]

Wow, spend all that on the ultimate media center and only pull 2 cat5 cables! I imagine this episode is a bit old because there should be several cat 6 or 7 for today's bandwidth needs.

[realfolkblues12]

I think they put 2 per plate. 1 plate per room. but maybe i'm wrong.

[chompychomps]

I guess I just think that is a lot of investment for just cat 5 cables. It must be an easy pull, but I can't see how in that place.

[Shutitup18]

I love this show; the guys are professionals and turn not so-good looking houses into very beautiful ones. I enjoyed the part where they renovated that house in Washington; really showed all of their expertise at bringing back a house from the dead.

[mifan93]

i just watched this episode a few days ago...i watched the final epsode of this farm house today....

[mrmouse00]

this old house never ever ever uses metal conduit. its so easy for the electricians to run the wire. like the other comment, god help you if put a nail in the wall, you are likely to put a hole right through the romex.

[OlegKostoglatov]

That's part of the electrical code too, the romex cable has to be a certain number of inches away from the inside of the studs. If it isn't then a metal plate must be installed on the stud to prevent someone from running a screw through the cable.

[sirlepto]

It's a fairly easy renovation because it is MN wiring (no metalic conduit)so there is no protection for the wires anywhere inside the walls, it may not need it because after renovations are done nobody touches a wall for many years. The dimming system is remote because there is a large load (many bulbs) per dimmer and a normal dimmer cannot handle it plus it's remote controled.

[AJuner78]

absolutely pathetic.

god forbid you have a short somewhere.

I miss the original shows with Bob Vila making normal sized homes livable. Bringing them into the 1970s & 80's.

How rediculous an ego one must have to waste that much material.

Ohh, Ohh, technology changed.

Now what?

[rgsgww]

that "conditioning" transformer scares me...i bet you the people will not be home when those windings overheat and short

[jem1985]

Thats what circuit breakers are for mate...

[jggazzola]

its ovously a mansion

[jabemer]

may be one of those with bomb shelter

[jabemer]

are you shure all those panels are from a old house

[zigcat123]

:this old house needs help

[williamschad9]

I love this show as well, I never miss one of there shows. I love to watch them work on houses, as I love building things and working with tools.

This show rocks

[SorthNarolina]

they release the "ask this old house on dvd" but i haven't found any of the actual renovations on dvd, those would absolutly make my day

[chingonm1]

I love this show, is f'n awsome

[picoliter]

Ha! "Rich nerd's wet dream."

This Old House has been all about big and expensive for years now. When's the last time you saw the homeowners actually pick up a hammer and DO something?

[SorthNarolina]

it can take away some of the charm, but they do some awsome feats, and i love seeing them use the latest hardware to do it too, one this house i believe they did an 25,000 dollar irrigation job too!

[rwoodward1031]

yeah yeah thats kick ass but will it clean up that messy basement

[rgsgww]

huh lets see forget some good grounding...maybe a powerfull surge that kills some upss...not a good scene

[jmgp1970]

George what? Bush?

[Jasoniscool1]

bugger me.

[jameskap]

400AMPS1!!! what are they running there. meth labs?

[rgsgww]

hey ma house has 6 wires coming in 400 amps total and all i run is 2 air condition units, 3 furnaces, 2 water heaters, 1 dryer, 1 oven, 1 range, extra air condition connections 1 extra dryer plug, entertainment center, lots of lights.

[Yahwho]

What are they going to do when the basement floods? Read books by candlelight?

[reallygreatlife]

i like ice cream

[f15x28isback]

Interesting stuff

[phoneman1957]

One good thunderstorm or flood and George better have good insurance.

[ManuelHung]

George needs to be dragged into the street and lit on fire....

[orangestick2000]

this doesnt tell anything about how to wire a house.80% of this this video is all about LOW VOLTAGE! POST A REAL VIDEO ABOUT 240 volt! GOODNITE

[hbsharkman]

sweet, i cant wait to watch this conclusion.

[shadowhawk22]

Incredible. I'd really like to see all this in action. It would be cool to see the setup before, and then show the outcome, with all the nice electric specifications.

[theurge]

I know there were some follow-up episodes to this one, but I never had a chance to dvr them... This particular episode was on DIY a couple weekends ago, so there is a good chance they will replay them.

[potatomato]

Nerd check:

Superman 3. Name the scene.

[mkduncan38024]

CAT5?!?!? Great place to go cheap guys LOL

[Animavoro]

Cat 5 (presumably he meant Cat 5e) is not really going cheap, it is the standard for Ethernet cables. Although Cat 6 would theoretically yield better performance, even on a local network maxing out 1000BASE-T is unlikely.

[mkduncan38024]

Presumably BAH. "maxing out 1000BASE-T is unlikely" Yeah it sure is unlikely to hit 1000 megabit when your network is running at 100 megabit. Skip Cat6, I was thinking fiber optic. Welcome to the 90's man.

[Animavoro]

What the fuck? You don't know shit about Ethernet or Fiber Optics.

[rgsgww]

just wait till cat 5 is gone and he will have a shitty house

[f15x28isback]

What's wrong with that?

[Pardisx]

Multiplx you are an idiot

[Vizeary]

Too much cable almost everywhere..

Stop saying 'fake' all the time, that's just plain lame.

[lawsonfulton]

nice