@SiNgLe4everq8 incorrect, i believe first attempt was 4x4, and the second was with traction control. ie, center diff was locked, but no lsd or lockers. as the video clearly states
Very nice, this system looks like it works very well for a scenario like this where you'd basically have a wheel off the ground with no traction. I would personally disable the ESP in the snow or flat terrain though because if you were going into a turn and lost traction it would try and straighten you out which, in a turn, will just make you understeer off the road. I'd rather have a controlled drift then understeer. I have an 01 Grand so we dont get any of this fancy traction stuffs ;)
IF you have 4wd it doesn't mean that your all wheels will push the car. why? because it has differential and if you want to know what's a differential and how it works search youtube.
hey man i got a 99 4.7 grand cherokee with quadra trac ll and when i try some light climbing ..i hear a weird clunck coming from my front end .,.i think the transfer case.... even in 4 low. do u have the same problem? has 115xxx miles on it. its some sort of traction control?? or its messed up.....thanks man
torque goes to the weel that has less resentice so really its not 4wd its 2 weel drive one weel on each axel get a locker system and even amont torque will go to all 4 weels having TRUE 4x4
With the Quadra-Drive II system, you don't need the traction control so much :P
Good video, though. Very good to show the effectiveness of traction control when off roading. Some systems don't work this well when at slow speeds like this.
@SandCommander does that also work on an o6 commander? if so, is it the button with the car with the lines behind it, because i thought that was traction control
In Jeeps, ABS is used for multiple tasks, such as: Break alert (worn pads), ESP (when equiped), Standard traction control, Quadra-Drive (when equiped), and some other i cant recall right now. Deactivate as shown in the manual
@SandCommander Actually, torque was equal between the two tires. Torque was zero. Nothing to push back, so no torque. May sound wrong, but it's right. LSD's and lockers are what unequally divide torque, not an open differential.
@SandCommander i think you meant to say the left front right? the right front tire was on concrete and had traction. The left front was the one spinning with no traction
It has open front and rear differentials. So when one rear and one front tire looses traction, it doesnt move. But traction control brakes slipping tires, when the torque goes on those tires which have traction, and car moves. :)
Quarda Drive 2 has Eaton ELSD's. Which are electronically controlled LSD's, that can move all the power from side to side. It's like traction control, but it's located inside the differential, and it's quicker, doesn't waste brakes. Still not as good as proper manually lockable diff. But anyway very good and easy system.
Acutally that is wrong. The current Quadra Drive II in the 05-10 Jeeps does have the Eaton ELSD's but they lock fully when either axle senses slip for up to 90 seconds or more. They act like lockers but you don't have to engage them. The computer does it for you.
@lightyearmodels Exactly. But still, manually lockable diff, like in Wrangler Rubicon, is winner. Because, you can engage the locker before you get in trouble. Automatic locker has always a little reaction time and the driver does not have full control over it, like with manual lockers. Automatic lockers are good, but nowhere near as good as manual lockers, like in the rubicon wrangler.
It's really a matter of opinion. Do a search for Quadra Drive II and watch the video of the guy takin his 05 Cherokee up the waterfall. The computer engages the lockers so fast you never feel any slip.
Still not totally correct. They engage at the slightest slip...so fast that you the driver will never know they were not on in an off road situation. Meaning you will not loose traction as they engage. Further more they fully lock for up to 90 seconds after sensing slip and can stay fully locked if the conditions need it. The Eaton ELSD's are in fact fully lockable limited slips.
@LovePontiac yes the vehicle is 4wd, look up "how do differentials work" on youtube. there is an old video from the 40's or 50's that explains differentials perfectly. When you understand how differentials work you will understand why this vehicle couldnt climb at the begining. later in the video the dirver activated the traction control, but on older vehicles you could lock the differentials manually so that all 4 wheels moved at the same rate.
Some people just don't understand how 4WD works.. nice vid btw:)
Mylovelycars 4 months ago
first attmept 2WD
the secode 4WD
SiNgLe4everq8 10 months ago
@SiNgLe4everq8 incorrect, i believe first attempt was 4x4, and the second was with traction control. ie, center diff was locked, but no lsd or lockers. as the video clearly states
shomb1989 4 months ago
Very nice, this system looks like it works very well for a scenario like this where you'd basically have a wheel off the ground with no traction. I would personally disable the ESP in the snow or flat terrain though because if you were going into a turn and lost traction it would try and straighten you out which, in a turn, will just make you understeer off the road. I'd rather have a controlled drift then understeer. I have an 01 Grand so we dont get any of this fancy traction stuffs ;)
CompCrasher86 11 months ago
Lock your dif bro
gvnvehco 1 year ago
99% don't understand how a 4WD works.
IF you have 4wd it doesn't mean that your all wheels will push the car. why? because it has differential and if you want to know what's a differential and how it works search youtube.
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hey man i got a 99 4.7 grand cherokee with quadra trac ll and when i try some light climbing ..i hear a weird clunck coming from my front end .,.i think the transfer case.... even in 4 low. do u have the same problem? has 115xxx miles on it. its some sort of traction control?? or its messed up.....thanks man
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5rban707 1 year ago
torque goes to the weel that has less resentice so really its not 4wd its 2 weel drive one weel on each axel get a locker system and even amont torque will go to all 4 weels having TRUE 4x4
wifebeater756 1 year ago
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F0ckUtoob 2 years ago
GOD DAMN That is one steep climb it just made...
Great demo showing it pushing all the power to the front passenger, then easing on it to keep the grip.
codyxcaution 2 years ago
i love the commander
BaseballPitcher43 2 years ago 9
Dodge/Jeep>ford,gm
MPLSTORM 2 years ago 7
With the Quadra-Drive II system, you don't need the traction control so much :P
Good video, though. Very good to show the effectiveness of traction control when off roading. Some systems don't work this well when at slow speeds like this.
sgtcht92 2 years ago
whats the deal with the abs? i got 06 commander sport.
lacking balls offroad. cant even send dirt flying! should i remove the abs fuse?
ROSCOANDBOPPERS 2 years ago
Its the ESP and Traction Control System that prevents the wheel spinning.
You should turn off the ESP by pressing the ESP button for 5 secs until "ESP OFF" is displayed in the dash.
SandCommander 2 years ago
@SandCommander does that also work on an o6 commander? if so, is it the button with the car with the lines behind it, because i thought that was traction control
jsachse1996 7 months ago
DONT!!
In Jeeps, ABS is used for multiple tasks, such as: Break alert (worn pads), ESP (when equiped), Standard traction control, Quadra-Drive (when equiped), and some other i cant recall right now. Deactivate as shown in the manual
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saturbo1107 3 years ago
traction control is the best things done for off-roading- old days we used to push the car to its limits to do what today cars do easily.
yamenad 3 years ago
I don't understand why it couldnt get up in the first part. This is 4wd right? Shouldn't the front wheels have been able to pull it up?
LovePontiac 3 years ago
The front right tire has no traction and all the torque going to the front axle was going to it.
SandCommander 3 years ago
@SandCommander Actually, torque was equal between the two tires. Torque was zero. Nothing to push back, so no torque. May sound wrong, but it's right. LSD's and lockers are what unequally divide torque, not an open differential.
d21gtr 1 year ago
@SandCommander i think you meant to say the left front right? the right front tire was on concrete and had traction. The left front was the one spinning with no traction
sirtubemaster 11 months ago
It has open front and rear differentials. So when one rear and one front tire looses traction, it doesnt move. But traction control brakes slipping tires, when the torque goes on those tires which have traction, and car moves. :)
offfiman 2 years ago
I don`t get it. The Quadra Trac II system should have automatic lockers in the front and rear but they don`t seem to work well.
Airox2009 2 years ago
Quarda Drive 2 has Eaton ELSD's. Which are electronically controlled LSD's, that can move all the power from side to side. It's like traction control, but it's located inside the differential, and it's quicker, doesn't waste brakes. Still not as good as proper manually lockable diff. But anyway very good and easy system.
Quarda Track 2 does not have these diffs. :)
offfiman 2 years ago
@offfiman
Acutally that is wrong. The current Quadra Drive II in the 05-10 Jeeps does have the Eaton ELSD's but they lock fully when either axle senses slip for up to 90 seconds or more. They act like lockers but you don't have to engage them. The computer does it for you.
lightyearmodels 2 years ago
@lightyearmodels Exactly. But still, manually lockable diff, like in Wrangler Rubicon, is winner. Because, you can engage the locker before you get in trouble. Automatic locker has always a little reaction time and the driver does not have full control over it, like with manual lockers. Automatic lockers are good, but nowhere near as good as manual lockers, like in the rubicon wrangler.
offfiman 2 years ago
@offfiman
It's really a matter of opinion. Do a search for Quadra Drive II and watch the video of the guy takin his 05 Cherokee up the waterfall. The computer engages the lockers so fast you never feel any slip.
lightyearmodels 2 years ago
@offfiman
Still not totally correct. They engage at the slightest slip...so fast that you the driver will never know they were not on in an off road situation. Meaning you will not loose traction as they engage. Further more they fully lock for up to 90 seconds after sensing slip and can stay fully locked if the conditions need it. The Eaton ELSD's are in fact fully lockable limited slips.
lightyearmodels 2 years ago
@lightyearmodels
wait so when the Eatons LSD's engage, thay stay enaged? no 2 tire fire back to 1 tire fire?
TheJeepWheeler 1 year ago
@TheJeepWheeler
Yes they stay engaged up to 90 seconds or until the computer can sense that no slippage is taking place. They act like normal lockers.
lightyearmodels 1 year ago
@lightyearmodels
sooo basically an electronic engagin locker
TheJeepWheeler 1 year ago
@LovePontiac yes the vehicle is 4wd, look up "how do differentials work" on youtube. there is an old video from the 40's or 50's that explains differentials perfectly. When you understand how differentials work you will understand why this vehicle couldnt climb at the begining. later in the video the dirver activated the traction control, but on older vehicles you could lock the differentials manually so that all 4 wheels moved at the same rate.
killerkowalczyk 1 year ago
@LovePontiac with an open front differential all of the power was going to the left wheel which had no traction
ngkful 1 year ago
@LovePontiac Open Diff.
bestposted 1 year ago
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morito12345678 3 years ago
notr bad for a tc system,wonder if the one in are expedition works as well
rangerover06sc 3 years ago