NIST WTC 7 Report - Press Briefing 8/21/08 pt 5

[blavatsky3]

he's diffusing the argument by talking about regular thermite and not the special explosive quality of NANO-Thermite

[blavatsky3]

Government knew Corrosion inside T_win T_owers and had to Fast-Track their

de-commissioning by 2007. NYC council forbid C_ontrolled D_emolition and the people who tendered the

corrosion and de-commissioning research have destroyed all their files and had people sign

forms saying they will never talk about this as per Thomas-Scott Gordon 1989

vv vv vv dot 911oz dot c om and search Thomas Scott Gordon

[Rsd79]

@a1d4a1m5

watch part 2, the answer is thermal expansion, where their is no need to reach melting point of steel like many truthers suggest.

[alecboi84]

piece of fucking non American shit......lying to us and trying to force that bullshit to the people of the United States is a crime......If anybody believes this fucking douchebag your a traitor to our country.....WAKE UP>>>>They slaughtered our people and have gotten away with it................

[moreaudan]

I hope this guy asked to be paid in gold.

[Tsutomu6]

wow. 10 times louder... sounds alot doesn't it?

It's not new that sound is measured logarithmic...

[chaoser69er]

Larry Silverstein went on tv and said they pulled building 7...how come nobody herd the bombs in there.AND THAN shyam sunders would have you belive that thermite can not bring down the building but gasoline can and did.just use your heads people

[streakingcameraman]

Actually, your not watching, he said that the fuel lines and tanks were not the main factor. Watch this from beginning to end before you butt in. And again, Silverstein doesn't control the Fire Department, he could have told them anything and they would have told them to go straight to hell.

[blite13]

Go fire fighters for 911 truth dott org, this will show it all, go 911 research and read the testimony of firefighters and ambulance workers that heard and felt explosions

[streakingcameraman]

Oh great, your dumb ass is still here. Explosions, how many things in your common house can explode? Many. Explosions don't always equal explosives. There are many things that could explode. Crawl back in your whole and go fuck yourself.

In case anyone's wondering, I am not talking ot a person that is even the slight bit interested in the real truth. So sorry if I am coming off as an asshole, but this guy is a joke.

[blite13]

So the point would be what genius? The point is , I'll tell it to you because you are just to freakin stupid, NIST said there was no proof of explosions, when obviously there is. If it isn't explosives then tell us what it was. Instead, they go right around it and say there was no proof, so that proves they are LIARS. Figure it out you dumbass, you keep defending KNOWN LIARS WHO ARE COVERING UP MURDER. Molten metal, NIST lied about that as well, much testimony on that and they say "no proof".

[streakingcameraman]

Wow, NIST declared that there were not proof of explosions, WHY? Answer is, they were looking for reasons that brought down the towers. They didn't care what explosions happened that didn't effect the overall outcome. They have no proof, and have no reason to believe that bombs brought down the tower. Go back and hide in you hole masterbating to loose change you fucktard.

[blite13]

How can they know they had no effect on the outcome? That is just an idiotic statement, so to say it was thermal expansion because they had no proof of that either, makes more sense when there is testimony of explosions? You are to dumb to argue with, see ya.

[streakingcameraman]

Let's look at all the factors that happened. For one, the building didn't fall shortly after it was hit with debris. It was evacuated and was left to burn. Water mains were broken not allowing firefighters to actually fight the fire. Timelines, scenarios, and actual models of how it could happen have brought them to the conclusion that they had. You see, the building was gradually weakened, then it failed, end of story. Fire destroyed the building, get over it, retard.

[blite13]

Fires on a few floors, nothing to make enough heat to make it fail. Firefighters were told 3 hrs in advance that " it was coming down" back off and get out of collapse zone. Bottom line, NOTHING hot enough to make the steel give out, I know that's hard for your stupid little pea brain to rap around, but that is the TRUTH. You can't handle the truth or figure out the truth so you take PROVEN liars word for it and that's why you are just a fool. Molten metal doesn't come from office fires.

[streakingcameraman]

A few floors, stop watching LOOSE CHANGE. the fire was more intense than truthers want to admit. Yes, the firefighters were told to back off because they new the building was unstable. Steel doesn't have to melt to lose it's strenth, that's the truther, bitch. I can handle the truth, present me with real evidence and I will except it, but all you truther fail. Show me molten metal that is not aluminum, show me. That's right, none was found. NONE.

[Tardis216]

Hey cameraman, are you an engineer? well I am, and let me tell you that steel is a fine heat conducter so there are enough heatsinks in a skyscraper's steelframe to absorb the heat during a fire. That's why skyscrapers don't collapse during a fire. Does a steel bbq melt when the fire is white hot? No. Why? Because the heat is going everywhere and temperature will stay well below the point of deformation. A random fire causes random damage, right? But the WTC7 collapse was anything but random.

[streakingcameraman]

Ha, what have you designed? Monkey bars? Great, steel conducts heat, tell me, what happens when a vast part of that steel is exposed to heat? That part becomes weaker. It will not spread evenly through the steel, that's insane. Your BBQ doesn't reach the temps that fire reached. In relation to the fires, a BBQ is about equal to a match. Also, the area where the coal are in a fire is not under a load, you can deform the steel grill if you push on it. Random, it burned for hours.

[streakingcameraman]

Skyscrapers do collapse. Why do you think they fireproof them? I would hate to be in a building that you had something to do with if you think a skyscraper even compared to a bbq grill. Have you ever really worked with steel? Everyone knows that you can heat up a certain area hotter than the rest, blacksmiths have done this for years. Yes, the whole damn peice would get hot, however, that area exposed to the most heat will be hottest. How do you think a cutting torch works? IDIOT.

[Tardis216]

Obviously your not familiar with the meaning of the word heatsink. And yes I welded steel. Blowtorches reach a far higher temp. then possible in a fuel fire. Burns air plane fuel as hot as a blowtorch? No. That's why blowtorch flames are blue, and fuelflames are orange. B.t.w. you make a lot of noise, there is no need to name people names if your arguments are sound.

[streakingcameraman]

Great, I weld steel too. You missed the pun of a blowtorch. You were talking about steel instantly displacing heat. That's simply not true even in smaller fires. That was just a more drastic example. Here's another example: Build a campfire, throw a steel fence post into it, make sure it's at night so you can see, take it out, look at how the steel directly exposed to the fire, which is not as hot as you would like to think. Is glowing red. Leave it in there long enough, don't cheat.

[jizzmonger]

The "Heat Sink" argument is simply Truthers using buzzwords and talking points they have picked without having the slightest clue what they mean.

The the cross-sectional surface area of the steel in relation to the amount of surface area being heated is far to high for their to be any meaningful conduction.

"Heat Sinks" also require a temperature difference in order to actually give up heat.

[jizzmonger]

"Hey cameraman, are you an engineer? well I am, and let me tell"

Lying about being an engineer does lend anymore credence to your false statements anymore than being an actual engineer would.

[jizzmonger]

Office fires which are known to burn at 2000 degrees are plenty hot to weaken steel.

What on earth is making you say they can't?

[blite13]

Show proof there jizzy, show proof of one office fire that has produced heat of 2000 degrees. Show proof that kerosene burns at 2000 degrees.

[jizzmonger]

Proof? Why do you think that ASTM-E119 standard requires furnace temperatures of 2000 degrees during the test?

This isn't a mystery....unless you're a Truther.

[blite13]

LOl, office fires get no hotter than 600 degress C. tHIS IS A KNOWN FACT. Just because there is a test at 2000 degrees means NOTHING. Temp at 600 means the steel was getting temps of around 400, so your theory is BUNK.

[jizzmonger]

Where on earth are on you coming up with this crap?

You are either misinformed or lying.

Pick one.

[blavatsky3]

@blite13 How does NIST avoid going to jail ? Avoid answering intelligent questions? Avoid talking about the presence of iron-rich microspheres which are known by-products of nanothermite reactions which produce temperatures capable of melting steel. If a covert military substance exists capable of effecting the controlled demolition of a steel reinforced Building and it is unknown to NIST then shouldn't they be taking steps to unravel the mystery.

[JSSTyger]

"Why do you think that ASTM-E119 standard requires furnace temperatures of 2000 degrees during the test?"

Soil bearing capacity requirements for a one story building are typically around 3,000psf yet the weight carried may only be 1,000 to 1,500 psf. Concrete for column footings is around 3,000psi even though they may only be holding up a 5 ton column and a portion of a steel roof deck.

Test conditions DO NOT reflect real world conditions. They implement extreme factors of safety.

[blavatsky3]

@blite13 B_ush and F_BI admit to e_xplosives at WTC on 9 -11

so why do they refuse to look for e_xplosives makes no sense to me unless you are trying to cover something big up

[blite13]

What a crock...anyone who believes this crap is just plain STUPID.

[streakingcameraman]

Yes, a bunch of scientist are complete morons compared to the troof movement. Who is stupid again, oh yeah, troofers.

[blite13]

A bunch of scientists, yeah 3 of them, hired by the government, gee , I wonder what there story would be? DUHHH, just because they say it, doesn't mean it's true. You obviously have that flying way over your head.

[streakingcameraman]

3? What the hell are you talking about? You seriously haven't a clue what your talking about. PM hired scientist, Nist had a large group of scientist and experts, but you think that only 3 have debunked you? Oh yeah, lets believe what you believe, oh wait, there is not proof. Everything is debunked, go pray to your god, ALEX JONES. Did you hear the truthers in this video trying to fish, even when he said there were none, the guy tried to say, well would a smaller amount.....NO. LOL