Gather the bankers, the brokers, the stock speculators and put them in the Wicker Man. Their sacrifice will assure our future happiness and prosperity. Then we shall eat, drink, dance, fuck and be merry.
When we wake up to the truth of life, inspired movies will emerge and flourish again. Most movies these days are full of special effects and try to entertain instead of inspire and educate. Search "Truth Contest" in Google and click the 1st result, then open The Present and read what it says to learn the truth of life.
One of my favourite films of all time (whoever decided to remake it should be burnt in the wicker man) this and Willows song are my favourites...although saying that, this (imho) is probably one of the best film soundtracks ever...
Every time I try to watch this movie on YT, I find that some parts were taken down due to "copyright issues". Although from what I've seen this is the kind of movie worth renting for a few bucks.
The Wicker Man is not a film.It is a piece of art !. It makes you think on many different levels.
The "bad guys" are very sympathetic and enticing while the "Good guy" is a bit of a twit,and who,realistically,could resist the charms of Brit as she was here.?
Pure fantasy.
But the ending is absolutely shocking.
I don't mind a bit of paganism,but murder is still murder.
To think it would make the crops grow is silly,but that is the point,isn't it?
@neohip The whole movie is full of contrasts between christianity and the religion of the island. The sacrifice however is the only thing they both have in common. They believe that sacrificing him will save them, but he believes that because someone was sacrificed before he will be saved. Perfect Irony and mirroring. Not to mention that when he sees the wicker man he says "oh jesus!, oh god!", which seems to underline what the scene is about.
Yes.I'd already thought about the aspect,but It would be lost on the vast majority of viewers then as now!.(including me,when I first saw it nearly 30 years ago).
The older I get,the more I think this is such a brilliant contradictory and intelligent movie,but it is seemingly most infamous for showing the bottom of Britt Ekland's stand-in,and for being used as filler on a new motorway!.
And that dreadful remake seemed to entirely miss the point entirely.
@neohip I fully agree, I actually watched the remake before the original , which in a way as kinda good, because it made me enjoy the original even more and not being that disappointed with the remake. However the remake was indeed dreadful in comparison , and with no depth at all. They only kept the twist in the plot line and that's it.
@TashkentFox Quite, but I was hoping to avoid a discussion on faith and religion , which almost ever only exist because of the murder of millions of innocent human beings, and just focus on the plot of a remarkable and classic forty-year old movie!
Agree and human sacrifice they did is no different then Christians burning 'witches-pagans' at the stake..they killed 100,000s of pagans via burning to death. As he said that god of Christians is DEAD!
I think the music perfectly captures the joyous nature of most Pagan religions mixed with the disorienting, alienated feeling that Howie must have felt while the lyrics some up the almost family-like bound that Pagans have with nature.
This song is great. I saw this movie and absolutely loved it, I refuse to watch the remake since I cannot stand Nicolas Cage, and why remake something that is already perfect?
A haunting yet beautiful collaboration of harmonious voices. Why couldn't they have sung that children's song in my school? I want to go to a pagan commune now. :(
lets reimagine the world! onwards towards a postmodern pagan libertarian communist futurism (or something like that). Theory is theatre but practice is the festival!
The pagans were the Romans, who basically practiced Genocide on the Celts, who are the people that I think you mean by "pagan".
I have a personal preference for scientific empiricism balanced against moral nihilism, as well as market Anarchism, but if you don't push your stuff on me, I wont push my stuff on you.
I think that you would probably want to trade within the market place. For one it creates security by generating voluntary interrelationships based on mutual interactions. You can live as a hermit if you really want to, but it's fundamentally anti-social, and subsistence living tends to be unpleasant.
A hermit is a very honorable person, and it is one of the responsibilities of the ''priesthood'' of the ancient european paganism. They gathered full moral and experienced the complete control of their own truth. This is ofcourse irrelevant if they do not use it. These are the seekers and tellers of the runes, the secrets of nature. These co-exist with it and think over all the morals and ethics and gather them into myths of the culture. A hermit is needed for the wellbeing and growth of scoiety
Theoretically there is a system whereby everyone produces into a common store, which is then distributed equitably. These systems haven't been proven effective. They might be able to, but only on a wholly voluntary basis.
Celts were pagans too, every society was at one time in the history of their development. there is nothing innately wrong with paganism in and of itself. Many people today are practicing paganists.
It excludes all monotheistic religion that has only one God with no other aspects to him such as Judaism and Islam in adition to Christianity and no they dont fit under Paganism the way I see it defined.
For all of the "monotheistic" religions God has a complex nature. In Zoroastrianism you almost cannot tell which is God and which is Adversary. In Judaism there seems to be more going on with God than is generally interpreted. Christianity has the triune God. Islam seems to have a more modern, almost polytheistic model of God.
It sounds like you are a pantheist with just a bias against monotheists.
Pantheism is a very vague term in my opinion. Christianity could call itself pantheistic by the definition many give it. In reality, pantheism is a love of nature and all it's implications. After this definition - Christianity is a failure of a religion, which denounces this and projects a religion of a myth on how they want it to be. But it is still pantheistic. These denominations are stiffening, and we should look at the believers rather than the religion in itself imo - The culture.
Yeah, I was using it to describe belief in a pantheon of gods.
Pantheism, Pandeism, and poltheism all seem to be pretty similar notions of the universe itself being god.
I wouldn't say that Christianity was a failure of a religion, anymore than any other religion is a failure. I'm not sure what the goal is. If you mean that it's been effectively disproved. Yes, that is more or less true.
Basically I think it's best to just take the best parts of every ideology and subscribe to none.
Why subscribe to none? Why not value culture? If not, what do we do for the universe?
If Christianity is disproven or not from a modern scientific point of view or not is irrelevant - I'm talking about how its slave morals, pity for human beings and essence of degeneration this culture-virus is. It is the original to egalitarianism and the guilt complex which rules our modern joke of a culture. It loves peace, but gives war. One should love peace, and war, all in due time. That is natural.
@Jcolinsol Certainly it is a latin term used traditionally for the ones not yet in the christian congregations, but it is thus not exclusive to southern people, but has become a term for native worship of ones ancestors, nature and the gods as a form of the elements of nature. I guess you know this, but it might be enlightening to those misunderstanding your comment assuming pagan is an exclusive term for the roman communities deieties and their worshippers.
Ah, right. The word Barbarian is very interesting, as it was a pejorative term for mostly germanic and northern slavic people and an interjection for their colloquial tounges of speaking. The significance of the word though, is much like the modern word terrorist. It can be applied to anyone portraying aggression to them, and by the term pathologizing all they do. If a Gaul attacked the Romans, they considered him a witless savage, while when they conquered - They were ''virtuous''.
I remember in about 1972 or 1973 my parents sent my brother and myself to maypole and mayday festival in East Perth Western Australia.
All though only 10 at the time this festival never left my mind and didn’t know till years later it is a pagan festival.
The people were friendly and happy, which so different to Christian festivals as they always seem so miserable or is just I look at the wrong ones.
Any way I always loved my parents for sending me.
lawlers69 1 week ago
How could they turn such a good movie in someone like the Nicolas Cage's bees version. It was like covering gold with dung.
DreamVikings 6 months ago 2
@DreamVikings Damn right, they didn't need to turn the movie into what they had when it was perfect with its original face
LordEli 6 months ago
@LordEli On the other hand, we did get the sheer fail-hilarity of "oh god not the bees".
Replicaate 1 month ago
@DreamVikings Nope Cage had it coming because of his acting skills or lack there of : )
lawlers69 1 week ago
Gather the bankers, the brokers, the stock speculators and put them in the Wicker Man. Their sacrifice will assure our future happiness and prosperity. Then we shall eat, drink, dance, fuck and be merry.
DarthCipient 7 months ago 6
@DarthCipient YEAH WE ARE THE 99%
Montork 4 months ago
fuck yea.jpg
alandream 7 months ago
the circle of life and death.
wolverine37x 8 months ago 2
When we wake up to the truth of life, inspired movies will emerge and flourish again. Most movies these days are full of special effects and try to entertain instead of inspire and educate. Search "Truth Contest" in Google and click the 1st result, then open The Present and read what it says to learn the truth of life.
DemianHermann 8 months ago
This IS the song that makes me want to watch Wicker Man, awesome film..
gildan 9 months ago 2
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@gildan It is VERY recommendble movie, check it out :)
DarkQueen1995 8 months ago
Dubstep remix? I think so
ShockTactix 9 months ago
if you go and watch the original movie this scene in itself is pretty amazing... I would NOT recommend watch the remake.
Epiphethes 11 months ago
One of my favourite films of all time (whoever decided to remake it should be burnt in the wicker man) this and Willows song are my favourites...although saying that, this (imho) is probably one of the best film soundtracks ever...
seedaripper2010 11 months ago 2
Every time I try to watch this movie on YT, I find that some parts were taken down due to "copyright issues". Although from what I've seen this is the kind of movie worth renting for a few bucks.
Videot01 1 year ago
The Wicker Man is not a film.It is a piece of art !. It makes you think on many different levels.
The "bad guys" are very sympathetic and enticing while the "Good guy" is a bit of a twit,and who,realistically,could resist the charms of Brit as she was here.?
Pure fantasy.
But the ending is absolutely shocking.
I don't mind a bit of paganism,but murder is still murder.
To think it would make the crops grow is silly,but that is the point,isn't it?
neohip 1 year ago
@neohip The whole movie is full of contrasts between christianity and the religion of the island. The sacrifice however is the only thing they both have in common. They believe that sacrificing him will save them, but he believes that because someone was sacrificed before he will be saved. Perfect Irony and mirroring. Not to mention that when he sees the wicker man he says "oh jesus!, oh god!", which seems to underline what the scene is about.
tekhiun 11 months ago
@tekhiun
Yes.I'd already thought about the aspect,but It would be lost on the vast majority of viewers then as now!.(including me,when I first saw it nearly 30 years ago).
The older I get,the more I think this is such a brilliant contradictory and intelligent movie,but it is seemingly most infamous for showing the bottom of Britt Ekland's stand-in,and for being used as filler on a new motorway!.
And that dreadful remake seemed to entirely miss the point entirely.
neohip 11 months ago
@neohip I fully agree, I actually watched the remake before the original , which in a way as kinda good, because it made me enjoy the original even more and not being that disappointed with the remake. However the remake was indeed dreadful in comparison , and with no depth at all. They only kept the twist in the plot line and that's it.
tekhiun 11 months ago
@neohip It's no more silly than believing that a man who lived 2000 years ago was the son of god and came back to life three days after he died.
TashkentFox 1 month ago
@TashkentFox Quite, but I was hoping to avoid a discussion on faith and religion , which almost ever only exist because of the murder of millions of innocent human beings, and just focus on the plot of a remarkable and classic forty-year old movie!
I'm only here for the film, not the inquisition!
neohip 1 month ago
@TashkentFox
Agree and human sacrifice they did is no different then Christians burning 'witches-pagans' at the stake..they killed 100,000s of pagans via burning to death. As he said that god of Christians is DEAD!
BestLion75 1 month ago
The joy of life, and of immortality in nature, summed up in a song.
RedSoxForObama 1 year ago
Yes! Thanks for putting these up. I can't find mine.
DarthFormby 1 year ago
I think the music perfectly captures the joyous nature of most Pagan religions mixed with the disorienting, alienated feeling that Howie must have felt while the lyrics some up the almost family-like bound that Pagans have with nature.
swordhunter12 1 year ago 5
and from that grave there grew.....a trrrrreeeeeeeee
tapeduk 1 year ago 2
Just heard on jarvis cocker's radio show (L)
booshgrrl 1 year ago
This song is great. I saw this movie and absolutely loved it, I refuse to watch the remake since I cannot stand Nicolas Cage, and why remake something that is already perfect?
weiliiiiiii 1 year ago 2
dunno what it is about this song but it puts the willies up me for some reason!!
NAVRATNA11 1 year ago
Ah, the phallic symbol. :-))
AnaFitzBeaumont 2 years ago 2
Need I point out the latent yonic imagery?
Jcolinsol 2 years ago
No, you need not. :-))
AnaFitzBeaumont 2 years ago
Great Film=wonderful music score
tapeduk 2 years ago 3
wow this song is scary.I LOVE IT
mussycluves 2 years ago 3
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Gives me chills every time.
Eprosis 2 years ago
chilling song ... but its very good ... i dont know what it is but these songs attract me to them so much
UKdude90 2 years ago 3
I recommend reading 'Four Archetypes' by Carl Jung :)
BMUHTDER 2 years ago 2
That film rocks
It's religiously partially innacurate but love it all the same
gumtreewallow 2 years ago 4
Fantastic. Thank you.
goncuriel 3 years ago 4
ah wow.. speechless..what a tune on so many levels x
convexrouge 3 years ago 2
brilliant song.
thephantomplatypus 3 years ago 2
Great post.. This song is genius.
barrythegoose 3 years ago 20
A haunting yet beautiful collaboration of harmonious voices. Why couldn't they have sung that children's song in my school? I want to go to a pagan commune now. :(
Thanks for posting it.
RareHarmony 3 years ago 31
lets reimagine the world! onwards towards a postmodern pagan libertarian communist futurism (or something like that). Theory is theatre but practice is the festival!
shadowhalfcast 2 years ago
The pagans were the Romans, who basically practiced Genocide on the Celts, who are the people that I think you mean by "pagan".
I have a personal preference for scientific empiricism balanced against moral nihilism, as well as market Anarchism, but if you don't push your stuff on me, I wont push my stuff on you.
Jcolinsol 2 years ago
well as long as you don't expect me to work in your market and don't make me the subject of your scientific empiricism. ; )
shadowhalfcast 2 years ago 2
I think that you would probably want to trade within the market place. For one it creates security by generating voluntary interrelationships based on mutual interactions. You can live as a hermit if you really want to, but it's fundamentally anti-social, and subsistence living tends to be unpleasant.
Jcolinsol 2 years ago
A hermit is a very honorable person, and it is one of the responsibilities of the ''priesthood'' of the ancient european paganism. They gathered full moral and experienced the complete control of their own truth. This is ofcourse irrelevant if they do not use it. These are the seekers and tellers of the runes, the secrets of nature. These co-exist with it and think over all the morals and ethics and gather them into myths of the culture. A hermit is needed for the wellbeing and growth of scoiety
UltimatumOfFoxV 2 years ago
Your argument follows the 'enlightment' ethos, in particular the ideas of Adan Smith. Think we need some new ideas...
shadowhalfcast 2 years ago
Which argument do you mean? I am all about revolutionary ideas.
Jcolinsol 2 years ago
The so called market place, though don't fancy being a hermit either. There are other options?
shadowhalfcast 1 year ago
@shadowhalfcast
Theoretically there is a system whereby everyone produces into a common store, which is then distributed equitably. These systems haven't been proven effective. They might be able to, but only on a wholly voluntary basis.
Jcolinsol 1 year ago
Celts were pagans too, every society was at one time in the history of their development. there is nothing innately wrong with paganism in and of itself. Many people today are practicing paganists.
unfortunatebeam 2 years ago
So "pagan" is just this sort of general term for not Christian? Doesn't that render it meaningless?
It's an exclusionary term, it basically means country bumpkin.
If you are going to do some religious practice, shouldn't it BE meaningful?
Jcolinsol 2 years ago
Well to me pagan is any religion the beleives in more than one God and it in turn excludes christianity not the other way around
anguish4u 2 years ago
You are thinking of a Pantheistic religion, non?
Does your definition just exclude Christianity? Or does it exclude any mono-theistic religion? For instance, is Zoroastrianism paganistic?
Jcolinsol 2 years ago
It excludes all monotheistic religion that has only one God with no other aspects to him such as Judaism and Islam in adition to Christianity and no they dont fit under Paganism the way I see it defined.
anguish4u 2 years ago
For all of the "monotheistic" religions God has a complex nature. In Zoroastrianism you almost cannot tell which is God and which is Adversary. In Judaism there seems to be more going on with God than is generally interpreted. Christianity has the triune God. Islam seems to have a more modern, almost polytheistic model of God.
It sounds like you are a pantheist with just a bias against monotheists.
Jcolinsol 2 years ago
Pantheism is a very vague term in my opinion. Christianity could call itself pantheistic by the definition many give it. In reality, pantheism is a love of nature and all it's implications. After this definition - Christianity is a failure of a religion, which denounces this and projects a religion of a myth on how they want it to be. But it is still pantheistic. These denominations are stiffening, and we should look at the believers rather than the religion in itself imo - The culture.
UltimatumOfFoxV 2 years ago
Yeah, I was using it to describe belief in a pantheon of gods.
Pantheism, Pandeism, and poltheism all seem to be pretty similar notions of the universe itself being god.
I wouldn't say that Christianity was a failure of a religion, anymore than any other religion is a failure. I'm not sure what the goal is. If you mean that it's been effectively disproved. Yes, that is more or less true.
Basically I think it's best to just take the best parts of every ideology and subscribe to none.
Jcolinsol 2 years ago
Why subscribe to none? Why not value culture? If not, what do we do for the universe?
If Christianity is disproven or not from a modern scientific point of view or not is irrelevant - I'm talking about how its slave morals, pity for human beings and essence of degeneration this culture-virus is. It is the original to egalitarianism and the guilt complex which rules our modern joke of a culture. It loves peace, but gives war. One should love peace, and war, all in due time. That is natural.
UltimatumOfFoxV 2 years ago
@Jcolinsol Certainly it is a latin term used traditionally for the ones not yet in the christian congregations, but it is thus not exclusive to southern people, but has become a term for native worship of ones ancestors, nature and the gods as a form of the elements of nature. I guess you know this, but it might be enlightening to those misunderstanding your comment assuming pagan is an exclusive term for the roman communities deieties and their worshippers.
UltimatumOfFoxV 2 years ago
Ah, I meant exclusionary in the sense that the Romans tended to exclude other cultures, the whole "barbarians" fallacy.
Jcolinsol 2 years ago
Ah, right. The word Barbarian is very interesting, as it was a pejorative term for mostly germanic and northern slavic people and an interjection for their colloquial tounges of speaking. The significance of the word though, is much like the modern word terrorist. It can be applied to anyone portraying aggression to them, and by the term pathologizing all they do. If a Gaul attacked the Romans, they considered him a witless savage, while when they conquered - They were ''virtuous''.
UltimatumOfFoxV 2 years ago