wow... kids back then were such miserable little bastards, weren't they? if my niece does something stupid like that, i yell at her and kick her out of the room until she behaves herself. then i let her back in.
Given the fact that this is one of the first bits of true animation ever, I'd have to say that it was extremely well done. The squash and stretch and distortion looks like it was made by using a feature on photoshop. Only Winsor had to do it entirely by hand and one picture at a time.
Classic and Wonderful!! Where is this kind of imagination today? I'm so scared today for people of high intellect as we live in the age of the morons......I'd love to get my hands on a book of the collected comic strip
Somehow there is a feeling, that it's us Americans who invented Anime. Cat Felix one of the other oldest animations, just looks like where Japanese got the Sonic from.
We have started many great things: the A-bomb, Computers, Internet. You just watch and see more innovative things coming. We will dominate the world.
@meeeemay Actually you're sort-of right. Manga, and by extention anime, is derived from American cartoons. Compare the very first manga made by Osamu Tezuka (called the Godfather of Anime) to early American cartoons.
As for the other things you said... you might want to read up on your history before making such statements.
As impressive as doing these cartoons on paper was, I can think of a cartoon that's even more impressive: Humorous Phases of Funny Faces. It's the most impressive cartoon of all because it was all done on *one* chalkboard - meaning the guy who animated it had to erase and draw for every slight movement! I don't think I could ever have the patience or stamina to do that.
McCay's animation is amazing! He's turning those shapes in space and drawing his characters from all sorts of angles yet they still look solid. He's brilliant at depicting scale too. I read an old article in which McCay recommends that beginners start by drawing a cone, a cylinder and a cube for two months. "When you have learned to draw them well, you will be able to draw anything -including cartoons," he wrote.
You ever notice in history that the ideas that are laughed and scoffed the most are the ones we still use decades after the original idea? They laughed at the idea that pictures could move, yet here it is, 2010 and we still create animated works.
@KiCreativeStudio Winsor did animate a few more shorts, but I think part of it was that while he was a great animator, a lot of his work seemed more flat. Not only that, but Winsor's films don't seem to have the gags that cartoons like Felix or Mickey provided. His stuff was beautiful, but it didn't entertain, it didn't make people laugh.
The human movement is much more realistic than Disney ever could master - until "Snow White", that is. So this is pretty impressive... No spaghetti arms here.
lol crates of drawing paper. xD I think we forget what a big deal that many sequential drawings were back in the days before animated features. That's so interesting.
Thanks so much for sharing your early animation videos with us. I am reading a very good biography of Walt Disney now, he was very much familar with Windsor Macay, and all the other pioneers of cartoons when he got into it himself in 1919. It was a really fascinating time. Damn I wish I could draw
How is it that we don't have brilliant people like Winsor anymore? To think, he's what helped inspire Disney to make all of his cartoons and create some of our childhood memories.
Thank you for uploading this! Whimsical and charming. McCay's graceful drawings/animations truly embodied the zietgeist of his age. A pleasure to watch!
Imagine back then when this came out people said holy crap that's the most amazing thing ive seen in my entire life and today when the next hd film comes out people just say meh and go onto something diffirent
I LOVE THIS. It's so adorable. Idk what this movie is. But this is almost the greatest movie ever made, almost 100 years ago. OMG. I can't get over how cute that was. 0.0 AMAZINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
It's astounding to even begin to comprehend how much passion and determination McCay had in order to do so much painstakingly difficult work to make his vision into reality. If every American today had his amazing work ethic, the country would be in much better shape than it is today.
@thunderstruck665 Better shape? If everyone I knew had half this level of commitment then America would be back on top and stay there for the next 20 years.
@thunderstruck665 I can assure you, it's not due to the work ethic that your country (and other countries) is in poor shape. You have to thank the banks for that.
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This is so fuckin boring, I can't believe all we watch is this in my college animation class I mean I can appreciate the fact that it was revolutionary for its time, but that doesn't mean I should have to sit through hours of this everyday, even the Disney animations are boring ( they 'look' good), why can't my teacher show some Warner Brothers cartoons!? I think entertainment is pretty important, just because it's funny doesn't mean it's easy to do, humor is a natural skill not many people have
Dude this was during the times when there was no audio recording equipment and everything was just played in sync with a piano. If we were to go back to that age, you'll soon realize that Maccay was very skillful at what he did with just pen and paper and perhaps even more skillful than any modern day animator. Personally, I find his proportions with character animation unbelievable and how he managed to draw 4000 pages is just something not many people can do today. Show some respect noob.
First of all, you didn't even spell his name right NOOB. Second, I already acknowledged the fact that he was good for his time, if you had understood anything I said, you would've realized that I noticed what he DID for animation. However, honestly, what kind of person WANTS to watch this? I'm not JUST talking about McCay, I'm talking about all the "artsy" crap that my teacher shows our class that should be replaced with much better animators such as Bob Clampett or John K.
No...of course I didn't understand. I've seen things and there's always people falling asleep or making fun of something (good stuff) just because it's not entertaining. These guys are idiots and relating to your question... What kind of person would want to watch this? Perhaps an animator? And when you said "not JUST talking about McCay, I'm talking about all the "artsy" crap" is even worse. From a neutral stand point...stop being a baby, you're in college. The artsy crap is probably necessary.
And plus it's not about acknowedging and going "I noticed what he did". It's about understanding how skillful he was. Lets see you do something better with pen and 4000 blank sheets of paper. Everything's always easier said than done. It might sound easy just saying "4000 pages" but once you sit down and start drawing...you'll almost feel like giving up around 10 pages. 4000 is a lot! And I don't think you've acknowledged that because you want his work replaced with cheap cell animations.
Winsor McCay was called the Greatest Animator in America. Did Bob Clampett or John K get to be acknowledged that? I don't think so. Suck on that. Eat balls.
@openEYEstudios You didn't even defend your point with legitimate evidence whatsoever. The point that I am making is that great animators don't get acknowledged at all, while other artsy pieces of shit are praised so much. How many times have we seen in music where the greatest musicians are not given any credit or appreciation while bullshit like The Jonas Brothers are given so many awards and fame. Same concept here, now please give me some solid evidence, and if you can't, shut your mouth.
So you don't think entertainment matters? Obviously if someone falls asleep watching something it's because they just can't sit through how boring it is. I just don't understand why when something has some kind of low-brow humor or entertainment, it AUTOMATICALLY becomes easy to do or it's "not as good as" some boring artsy stuff. If anything, you're the one being the baby by just following what your teacher says about art.
Just because something is time consuming doesn't mean it took any skill.
Skip to 8:22 for his animation and just look at his skill and effort. Look at his attention to perspective and proportions. Not many people can do that squash and stretch at 8:49. Look at the textures on the dragon at 9:59 and how it moves in perspective. McCay had to ink in colours for each page and he inked them in very precise ways. Imagine photographing 4000 pages individually without the "peg". Look at the size of the page at 10:25. And you're saying it didn't take any skill?
I'm sure he had skill. But anyways, how about we stop discussing this already, neither of us is going to change our minds and plus I don't really care in the first place lol. (I'm not talking to you on this one) And as for everyone else who looks at an animation of sand being dragged around across the screen and makes up some random symbolization for it, just watch the episode of South Park called "I'll Never Write Again".
@DAVO360 if something is time consuming it at least took the skill of patience and perseverance, two of what i believe to be more admirable skills to have.
@DAVO360 Might be boring to people now I guess. But it says a lot about the time. I still find the ideas in this animation highly creative compared to a lot of the crap animations today (not all of them)... Whats more interesting to me is that this clip shows animation purely as a means to portray movement, story and narrative take a back-seat until many years later... but that's just my opinion on this clip. I really like Winsor McCay's explorations, but you're entitled to your opinion too. :)
Look up his name in google books in the public domain...lots of historic books to read dating back to the early 1900s...some were made for the public and some were meant for the industry.
I heard that there was one movie of a train coming toward the audience, and the audience were genuinely afraid. That was slightly earlier, but seeing an animated short from almost 100 years ago really shows how amazing this new technology was, when animation wasn't considered childish and newspaper comics were huge and very imaginative. And I also love the internet for allowing easy access to this content. Imagine trying to see this without the internet.
I've heard that the thing about people being scared by the train is a myth, people maybe thought it was amazing but there is no real history of people running out scared.
But i agree about the thing with childish animation. Nowadays, animated movies ARE for children, whatever you say people will always think that. I love short films like felix the cat(from around 1930). They are just animated movies, not childrens programs...
Winsor McCay, pioneer of the animated cartoon, AND of the "making off" as well!. It has been said that he created Gertie the dinosaur to show people that his previous movie wasn't made through life-action puppeteering, using a huge not-around-anymore animal to make his statement clear. The man was amazing: what animator would dare to animate such complicated drawings?
i love old animations. the crap that they put on tv nowadays is horrid. for example, some gay show called "Jonny Test" looks like a collection of tweened images. I wish they still did this kind of stuff.
So tired of people mixing up artistic creativity and imagination with drugs. Like a way for people without the abillity to create to take down the magic in great art.
No it's not, it's a beautiful early work of animation and you are very simple and idiotic for not seeing that, it has a very childlike and whimsical feel to it, that you have obviously lost
@gatheringleaves i have already told you im not simple or idiotic you seem to be the one that is sence i havent called you a malicious name yet while you ceep calling me them left and right, i havent lost eneything but you have apparently lost your sences though and if you want "whimsy" read a grimm brothers fairy tail or watch an early walt disney cartoon.
I believe tthat THIS should be shown in Cartoon Network and other places for children to understand where cartooning came from and how difficult it is to make it, instead of pumping them with same beaten down spidermans and superrangers, that got no meaning whatsoever.
What truly amazes me is how flawlessly he would free-hand with pen and ink. By the time I had finished the first figure, I would have smudged half the ink and gone through the better part of a bottle of cover fluid!
Thanks for posting this. I can never get enough of McCay's work.
I am completely in awe. This is one of the most fantastic things i've ever seen. 1911!!! Oh my god! There's only one explanation, Winsor McCay is a damned magician. Bravo, oh grand magician.
It's really educational to see what they went through with animations, when now we have programs like flash that we can make them so easily with. This is really cool. Thanks ^.^
This is real masterpiece....!!
voiletvelvet 1 week ago
i wish i could draw like that, he didnt even need to use a pencil outline... just pure pen!!!
TheChgz 3 weeks ago
Wow. 100 years ago.
GCWaves 4 weeks ago
Winsor McCay was just the best.
bentarthur 2 months ago
SO MANY FPS!!!!!!!! D:|
fetch300 2 months ago
Feeling so nostalgic watching this film. I love watching silent music because I love the background music. Thank you for posting!
ylfriends 2 months ago 3
sigh... 1911 seemed like just yesterday... I was only 334 years olds then! My has time gone by! :)
cutiepie316289 2 months ago 5
Could he really draw that fast, I wonder?
mcanguish1977 2 months ago
awesome
elchinolatino91 3 months ago
This blows me away, this is 100 years old.
zinglonsale 3 months ago
this is amazing
beyourpetchannel 3 months ago
whats the song at the end of the animation ?!
iRadiatedBox 3 months ago
Up Yours, Disney.
pepperminttea42 3 months ago 2
It's pretty sad that this cartoon was far more entertaining than most of the newer cartoons anymore.
toadfan64 4 months ago
THIS ANIMATION WAS DONE 100 YEARS AGO, YET IT LOOKS MORE FLUID THAN THE CRAP YOU SEE ON CARTOON NETWORK.
Shuriko 5 months ago 11
indeed the word to end sentenses
ultraAnomalocaris 5 months ago
better than the jersey shore
z0mba1 5 months ago 5
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what dose this even mean
flareon09 5 months ago
lol funny and odd n racist n idk...
yaha1313131313 6 months ago
"Now gentlemen, watch as I draw this racist doodle! That shall win me many a friend!"
Ashley963123 6 months ago
Color in 1911? what???
yelton7 6 months ago
Are they still alive?
ZurreeHD 6 months ago
@ZurreeHD assuming they were between 40-60, and this was completed in 1911, if they were still alive they'd be over 150.
Cjfagundo11 6 months ago
@Cjfagundo11 I know dude it was a failed joke.
ZurreeHD 6 months ago
@ZurreeHD McCay died in '34
WillyM79 6 months ago
I guesss they smoked weed back then too
shado1023 6 months ago
Absoluteness of American Intuitiveness
Airshot06 6 months ago
wow... kids back then were such miserable little bastards, weren't they? if my niece does something stupid like that, i yell at her and kick her out of the room until she behaves herself. then i let her back in.
abomasnow4 6 months ago
@abomasnow4 at least kids back then are not addicted to drugs or weeds...
TheKongol19 6 months ago
@TheKongol19 Right....... Kids have been addicted to drugs since humanity discovered drugs.
OriginLinear 6 months ago
@abomasnow4 you're a horrible person
Individualism101 6 months ago
this is amazing :>
B1SH1 6 months ago
Better than disneychannel.
ScrubsTheNewcomers 6 months ago
this vid is exremely hard to masterbate to....
sukresukre2 6 months ago
mustve been recorded with a iphone 2g
haskelman 6 months ago 3
so damn good...
iamlokingforchange 6 months ago
I am glad I am alive now and not back then, it is interesting to see what they made back then but compared to what we have now, it is boring.
jbear0000 6 months ago
What? the movies not in HD?
thepanman1000 6 months ago 40
page 4000! god damn! that's determination!
SilentDancer29 6 months ago 6
VSAUCE thank u!!!!!!!!!!
hasanmetube 6 months ago 57
@hasanmetube ? what
kaza12345678 4 months ago
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hasanmetube 4 months ago
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kaza12345678 4 months ago
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kaza12345678 4 months ago
Ah the awesome animation of one of the early masters Winsor McCay
I still love his work as well as gertie the dinosaur
thekid20x6 6 months ago 2
VSAUCE!!!
dowdowl 6 months ago
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hasanmetube 6 months ago
100 bucks somebody is going to say "vsauce".
xGanchanx 6 months ago
@xGanchanx yea...give me 99 and enjoy ur discount!!
hasanmetube 6 months ago
@hasanmetube Too soon my friend, too soon.
xGanchanx 6 months ago
drug doesn't help you create a great work, it only help you not to scare to create bad work.
sh3n3ng 6 months ago
For those squabbling about drug use, notice he refuses the alcohol in favor of the seltzer.
bobjfs 6 months ago
9:40: No one.... has EVER accepted ... a ROYAL invitation... in their UNDERWEAR
ff2paladin 6 months ago
Given the fact that this is one of the first bits of true animation ever, I'd have to say that it was extremely well done. The squash and stretch and distortion looks like it was made by using a feature on photoshop. Only Winsor had to do it entirely by hand and one picture at a time.
Hotshotter3000 7 months ago
Well atleast we know what happened to his assistant at 6:15. haha.
SushiLord89 7 months ago
this was befor 100 freagin years :)
msms47 7 months ago
Nossa, bom demais. Pensei que era em preto em branco, mas, depois aparecem os desenhos coloridos.
Very Cool.
doublegraphic 7 months ago
Classic and Wonderful!! Where is this kind of imagination today? I'm so scared today for people of high intellect as we live in the age of the morons......I'd love to get my hands on a book of the collected comic strip
rang3r34 8 months ago
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Somehow there is a feeling, that it's us Americans who invented Anime. Cat Felix one of the other oldest animations, just looks like where Japanese got the Sonic from.
We have started many great things: the A-bomb, Computers, Internet. You just watch and see more innovative things coming. We will dominate the world.
May God Bless America.
Felix the Cat: watch?v=sxailD4Ofq4
meeeemay 8 months ago
@meeeemay Actually you're sort-of right. Manga, and by extention anime, is derived from American cartoons. Compare the very first manga made by Osamu Tezuka (called the Godfather of Anime) to early American cartoons.
As for the other things you said... you might want to read up on your history before making such statements.
Floweramon 7 months ago
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meeeemay 8 months ago
Bravo! Bravo!
SinnerInChrist 8 months ago
His characters were very progressive, so much so that they are probable more relevant today than ever.
Also, Jesus Christ! as an artist 4000 drawings in a month is unreal I don't even know if I've done 4000 in the past 5 years!
ChrisGnosis 9 months ago
pure genius - Winsor McCay was decades ahead of his time!
dusthat 9 months ago 6
FUNNY HOW THAT isnt his sleeve
darwin89ify 9 months ago
1911 version
CookieBoxTv 10 months ago
@CookieBoxTv I specifically went to yttm(dot)tv aka Youtube time machine, just so I could watch an old video with that effect. It fits PERFECTLY!
BigFan227 10 months ago
As impressive as doing these cartoons on paper was, I can think of a cartoon that's even more impressive: Humorous Phases of Funny Faces. It's the most impressive cartoon of all because it was all done on *one* chalkboard - meaning the guy who animated it had to erase and draw for every slight movement! I don't think I could ever have the patience or stamina to do that.
MWolfL 10 months ago
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Everyone in this film are dead....
migselv16896 10 months ago
this is so cool to think that they only made cartoons 100 years ago
superunicorn65 1 year ago
Absolutely marvelous!!
sergiosacoto 1 year ago
people 100 years ago were being mind fucked
guittarman7 1 year ago
Almost 100 years ago.. o.O!!
SamKashimoto 1 year ago
McCay's animation is amazing! He's turning those shapes in space and drawing his characters from all sorts of angles yet they still look solid. He's brilliant at depicting scale too. I read an old article in which McCay recommends that beginners start by drawing a cone, a cylinder and a cube for two months. "When you have learned to draw them well, you will be able to draw anything -including cartoons," he wrote.
keeblergraham21 1 year ago 4
He COULD NOT have taken acid, LSD wasn't synthesized untill 1938.
franty 1 year ago 3
You ever notice in history that the ideas that are laughed and scoffed the most are the ones we still use decades after the original idea? They laughed at the idea that pictures could move, yet here it is, 2010 and we still create animated works.
AnimePRFury 1 year ago
What gets me is that when Winsor McCay was doing this Walt Disney was still only 10 years old!
Why didn't Winsor become a more ambitious animator?
KiCreativeStudio 1 year ago 5
@KiCreativeStudio Winsor did animate a few more shorts, but I think part of it was that while he was a great animator, a lot of his work seemed more flat. Not only that, but Winsor's films don't seem to have the gags that cartoons like Felix or Mickey provided. His stuff was beautiful, but it didn't entertain, it didn't make people laugh.
ameart26 1 year ago
The human movement is much more realistic than Disney ever could master - until "Snow White", that is. So this is pretty impressive... No spaghetti arms here.
baracine 1 year ago
Cool work!
frostare 1 year ago
I love the original fuck the Anime version they did of this.
Rodita1 1 year ago
@Rodita1 Wait a second Little Nemo in dreamland? Is this the same character?
frostare 1 year ago
@frostare Yes it is.
Rodita1 1 year ago
@Rodita1 Oops it´s "slumberland" in english, just looked it up. Thanks!
Mind blown.
frostare 1 year ago
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
MerelVoorbach 1 year ago
what a masterpiece!!!!
CherryNahme 1 year ago
awesome! although i did have to skip to the end.
RaybRay89 1 year ago
lol crates of drawing paper. xD I think we forget what a big deal that many sequential drawings were back in the days before animated features. That's so interesting.
threewhitetears 1 year ago 2
Wow that was impressive for it being from 1911, nice post!
People would come into a theater just to watch that alone I bet!
verbusen 1 year ago
Thanks so much for sharing your early animation videos with us. I am reading a very good biography of Walt Disney now, he was very much familar with Windsor Macay, and all the other pioneers of cartoons when he got into it himself in 1919. It was a really fascinating time. Damn I wish I could draw
benjaminBarr 1 year ago
How is it that we don't have brilliant people like Winsor anymore? To think, he's what helped inspire Disney to make all of his cartoons and create some of our childhood memories.
Commander204 1 year ago
@Commander204 I think John Lassetter fits that bill.
zsctg2 1 year ago
Thank you for uploading this! Whimsical and charming. McCay's graceful drawings/animations truly embodied the zietgeist of his age. A pleasure to watch!
glowghosty 1 year ago
Imagine back then when this came out people said holy crap that's the most amazing thing ive seen in my entire life and today when the next hd film comes out people just say meh and go onto something diffirent
ArchitectOfRapture 1 year ago
8:11
DoubleDutchBust 1 year ago
OMG it has colour :D
jretin 1 year ago
OMG! A true genius!!! This was done 99 years ago!!!
marsfal 1 year ago
I LOVE THIS. It's so adorable. Idk what this movie is. But this is almost the greatest movie ever made, almost 100 years ago. OMG. I can't get over how cute that was. 0.0 AMAZINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
swanceva 1 year ago
@mmmjoeybeans : Actually, before frame rates were standardized in 1926, a FR on any given film could range anywhere from 16 - 23 fps.
IKFKSwitch 1 year ago
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1960alessio 1 year ago
BOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheRussellicious 1 year ago
It's astounding to even begin to comprehend how much passion and determination McCay had in order to do so much painstakingly difficult work to make his vision into reality. If every American today had his amazing work ethic, the country would be in much better shape than it is today.
thunderstruck665 1 year ago 40
@thunderstruck665 Better shape? If everyone I knew had half this level of commitment then America would be back on top and stay there for the next 20 years.
TheLordmep 1 year ago
@thunderstruck665 I can assure you, it's not due to the work ethic that your country (and other countries) is in poor shape. You have to thank the banks for that.
Clavera 6 months ago 4
@thunderstruck665
The economic collapse had nothing to do with work ethic it had everything to do with banks being allowed to buy and sell mortgages.
JamesThWilliams 6 months ago
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This is so fuckin boring, I can't believe all we watch is this in my college animation class I mean I can appreciate the fact that it was revolutionary for its time, but that doesn't mean I should have to sit through hours of this everyday, even the Disney animations are boring ( they 'look' good), why can't my teacher show some Warner Brothers cartoons!? I think entertainment is pretty important, just because it's funny doesn't mean it's easy to do, humor is a natural skill not many people have
DAVO360 1 year ago
Dude this was during the times when there was no audio recording equipment and everything was just played in sync with a piano. If we were to go back to that age, you'll soon realize that Maccay was very skillful at what he did with just pen and paper and perhaps even more skillful than any modern day animator. Personally, I find his proportions with character animation unbelievable and how he managed to draw 4000 pages is just something not many people can do today. Show some respect noob.
openEYEstudios 1 year ago
First of all, you didn't even spell his name right NOOB. Second, I already acknowledged the fact that he was good for his time, if you had understood anything I said, you would've realized that I noticed what he DID for animation. However, honestly, what kind of person WANTS to watch this? I'm not JUST talking about McCay, I'm talking about all the "artsy" crap that my teacher shows our class that should be replaced with much better animators such as Bob Clampett or John K.
DAVO360 1 year ago
No...of course I didn't understand. I've seen things and there's always people falling asleep or making fun of something (good stuff) just because it's not entertaining. These guys are idiots and relating to your question... What kind of person would want to watch this? Perhaps an animator? And when you said "not JUST talking about McCay, I'm talking about all the "artsy" crap" is even worse. From a neutral stand point...stop being a baby, you're in college. The artsy crap is probably necessary.
openEYEstudios 1 year ago 2
And plus it's not about acknowedging and going "I noticed what he did". It's about understanding how skillful he was. Lets see you do something better with pen and 4000 blank sheets of paper. Everything's always easier said than done. It might sound easy just saying "4000 pages" but once you sit down and start drawing...you'll almost feel like giving up around 10 pages. 4000 is a lot! And I don't think you've acknowledged that because you want his work replaced with cheap cell animations.
openEYEstudios 1 year ago
Winsor McCay was called the Greatest Animator in America. Did Bob Clampett or John K get to be acknowledged that? I don't think so. Suck on that. Eat balls.
openEYEstudios 1 year ago
@openEYEstudios You didn't even defend your point with legitimate evidence whatsoever. The point that I am making is that great animators don't get acknowledged at all, while other artsy pieces of shit are praised so much. How many times have we seen in music where the greatest musicians are not given any credit or appreciation while bullshit like The Jonas Brothers are given so many awards and fame. Same concept here, now please give me some solid evidence, and if you can't, shut your mouth.
DAVO360 1 year ago
No.
openEYEstudios 1 year ago
So you don't think entertainment matters? Obviously if someone falls asleep watching something it's because they just can't sit through how boring it is. I just don't understand why when something has some kind of low-brow humor or entertainment, it AUTOMATICALLY becomes easy to do or it's "not as good as" some boring artsy stuff. If anything, you're the one being the baby by just following what your teacher says about art.
Just because something is time consuming doesn't mean it took any skill.
DAVO360 1 year ago
Skip to 8:22 for his animation and just look at his skill and effort. Look at his attention to perspective and proportions. Not many people can do that squash and stretch at 8:49. Look at the textures on the dragon at 9:59 and how it moves in perspective. McCay had to ink in colours for each page and he inked them in very precise ways. Imagine photographing 4000 pages individually without the "peg". Look at the size of the page at 10:25. And you're saying it didn't take any skill?
openEYEstudios 1 year ago
@openEYEstudios
I'm sure he had skill. But anyways, how about we stop discussing this already, neither of us is going to change our minds and plus I don't really care in the first place lol. (I'm not talking to you on this one) And as for everyone else who looks at an animation of sand being dragged around across the screen and makes up some random symbolization for it, just watch the episode of South Park called "I'll Never Write Again".
DAVO360 1 year ago
@DAVO360 if something is time consuming it at least took the skill of patience and perseverance, two of what i believe to be more admirable skills to have.
johnnytothemc 1 year ago
@DAVO360 Might be boring to people now I guess. But it says a lot about the time. I still find the ideas in this animation highly creative compared to a lot of the crap animations today (not all of them)... Whats more interesting to me is that this clip shows animation purely as a means to portray movement, story and narrative take a back-seat until many years later... but that's just my opinion on this clip. I really like Winsor McCay's explorations, but you're entitled to your opinion too. :)
BlightedArt 1 year ago 3
Look up his name in google books in the public domain...lots of historic books to read dating back to the early 1900s...some were made for the public and some were meant for the industry.
nostalgiajunkie70 1 year ago
animations at the beginning of the 20th century used a farm rate of 18 frames per second
mmmjoeybeans 1 year ago
*frame lol
mmmjoeybeans 1 year ago
McKay's animations are incredibly fluent. I wonder what framerate he uses.
Queequel 2 years ago
he animated on one's
geetarRamblin 1 year ago
Gotta love the continuity error with the hat that appears during the "how to".
dark77778 2 years ago
These are not "just" animated cartoons but animated paintings.
juliusfed 2 years ago
It must've been like MAGIC back then. Moving pictures - Imagine that.
AAMLfan 2 years ago 3
I heard that there was one movie of a train coming toward the audience, and the audience were genuinely afraid. That was slightly earlier, but seeing an animated short from almost 100 years ago really shows how amazing this new technology was, when animation wasn't considered childish and newspaper comics were huge and very imaginative. And I also love the internet for allowing easy access to this content. Imagine trying to see this without the internet.
CrazyCheeseMagee 2 years ago 27
@CrazyCheeseMagee
I've heard that the thing about people being scared by the train is a myth, people maybe thought it was amazing but there is no real history of people running out scared.
But i agree about the thing with childish animation. Nowadays, animated movies ARE for children, whatever you say people will always think that. I love short films like felix the cat(from around 1930). They are just animated movies, not childrens programs...
Singformefriend 6 months ago
Winsor McCay, pioneer of the animated cartoon, AND of the "making off" as well!. It has been said that he created Gertie the dinosaur to show people that his previous movie wasn't made through life-action puppeteering, using a huge not-around-anymore animal to make his statement clear. The man was amazing: what animator would dare to animate such complicated drawings?
Donspeekeengleesh 2 years ago 6
It just struck me how breathtaking this film must have seemed in 1911; it still is 100 years on--
Owlzindabarn 2 years ago 5
nice one...wonder if them drawings are still around..the color bit was fantastic even a 100 years later...master piece
eyewoodsay 2 years ago
wow 4000 frames :O
TheCGIMaster 2 years ago
Isn't that fat guy John Bunny?
daughterrevolution 2 years ago
yes, it is John Bunny.
sangorshop 2 years ago
wo so thats how animation started.(jaw dropping!!!!)
BonesPower 2 years ago
Una belleza
ansgarmc 2 years ago
i saw the black an white version today in class, i think i prefer it to this one...
njonesboy 2 years ago
!???
GozerGozarian 2 years ago
This is simply amazing. Thank you so much for sharing.
JoyceLaKee 2 years ago 3
Flip looks a little like Longcat when he starts moving.
FreakinSweet87 2 years ago
Dude runs out of ink fast XD
DaddyWalrusguy 2 years ago
i love old animations. the crap that they put on tv nowadays is horrid. for example, some gay show called "Jonny Test" looks like a collection of tweened images. I wish they still did this kind of stuff.
lokisprung 2 years ago 6
Breathtaking. Makes me fall in love with this art all over again.
FretNinja 2 years ago
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they missed out the bit where windsor took enough acid to come up with that crazy shit! 98 years old and fucking trippy
jsgamgee 2 years ago
Winsor McCay did not take acid to make that cartoon, he did with his plain old imagination
You're just too simple
gatheringleaves 2 years ago 86
So tired of people mixing up artistic creativity and imagination with drugs. Like a way for people without the abillity to create to take down the magic in great art.
funxstarter 2 years ago 77
@funxstarter well said well said well said
MsPuNk 10 months ago
@gatheringleaves Also taking into consideration that LSD didn't exist in the first decade of the 20's century, when Winsor made Little Nemo.
Hotshotter3000 7 months ago
@gatheringleaves im not simple, this is just retarded
thechickenhole 6 months ago
@thechickenhole
No it's not, it's a beautiful early work of animation and you are very simple and idiotic for not seeing that, it has a very childlike and whimsical feel to it, that you have obviously lost
gatheringleaves 6 months ago 2
@gatheringleaves i have already told you im not simple or idiotic you seem to be the one that is sence i havent called you a malicious name yet while you ceep calling me them left and right, i havent lost eneything but you have apparently lost your sences though and if you want "whimsy" read a grimm brothers fairy tail or watch an early walt disney cartoon.
thechickenhole 6 months ago
@thechickenhole
You obviously must not be a big fan of or understand alot about animation if you think something as fun or creative as this is retarded
gatheringleaves 6 months ago
@gatheringleaves you must not be a nice person in real life eather
thechickenhole 6 months ago
he dips his pen in ink 10 times in just the first drawing he does at the start. imagine how much he went through wow.
joryoreo 2 years ago 2
Note how he has to dip his nib in an inkwell.
DrLeavingsoon 2 years ago
A true master of his field.
zieglarf 2 years ago 3
Wow, I must say, this film is in amazing quality for being nearly 100 years old...
veemonjosh 2 years ago 7
And it will be for another 100 and more, because it's now in the National Film Registry!
SergeantLuke 2 years ago
Good god that was quality...
d34c0n 2 years ago
Amazing use of 3d rotation. If I ever do that level of 3d, I'm sticking to modern technology. That's a lot of hard work with pen and ink.
willyumsstudio 2 years ago 3
Was some of this rotoscoped? Or at least a primitive version of rotoscoping?
Branchdweller 2 years ago
Wow, the inclusion of color in 1911! That's nuts!!
Slayerofdevils 2 years ago
I believe tthat THIS should be shown in Cartoon Network and other places for children to understand where cartooning came from and how difficult it is to make it, instead of pumping them with same beaten down spidermans and superrangers, that got no meaning whatsoever.
digimaks 2 years ago 7
definition of a cartoon
im speechless
jimmybomb11 2 years ago
What truly amazes me is how flawlessly he would free-hand with pen and ink. By the time I had finished the first figure, I would have smudged half the ink and gone through the better part of a bottle of cover fluid!
Thanks for posting this. I can never get enough of McCay's work.
WelshWebb 2 years ago 3
Sweet!
Cathiina 2 years ago
i love the classics!
CrazyBoutThe10s 2 years ago
I am completely in awe. This is one of the most fantastic things i've ever seen. 1911!!! Oh my god! There's only one explanation, Winsor McCay is a damned magician. Bravo, oh grand magician.
jiggawalla 2 years ago 3
Was this the first color cartoon? The Debut of Thomas the Cat was considered the first full color cartoon.
cartoonlover2326 2 years ago
LOL at the barrels of ink and mountains drawing paper. (and the maid, and the OH NO everything fell! ROFL!)
And what raw drawing talent. IN COLOR TOO! I'm knocked over!
What a shame such Classic, Remarkable treasures must disappear...forever. T___T The horror!
AlienLeaderFan 2 years ago
flash animation isnt nearly as good as this tho there's just somthing about hand drawn animation that has more somthing i dunno lost my thoughts
SetiRabbit 2 years ago 4
I love the barrel of ink and the ton of drawing paper!
Such artistic ability AND a splendid sense of humour.
Winsor McCay, I salute you.
WillWivell 3 years ago 5
It's really educational to see what they went through with animations, when now we have programs like flash that we can make them so easily with. This is really cool. Thanks ^.^
Rathdrgnknight 3 years ago 3
Priceless. Thanks
sixletter 3 years ago
Thanks for sharing. This is priceless. I loved Mccay's work for years, and I always will.
rodrigoraulsuarez 3 years ago
richard williams described him as one of the first to try to elevate animation into an art form as opposed to a gimmick or a commercial tool
zer0se 3 years ago
Thank you for the video.
arji1982 3 years ago