Thank God for the LCPC.With the support of Faye Hill and all staff members, a little over six years ago they helped me make the best decision of my life.It has not been a easy road to travel but with the continued love and support from LCPC I can now stand alone and look back with no regrets.God blessed me with triplet boys.Jaylyn,Javaun,and Javion are truly one of a kind and heaven sent.Please always remember children are our blessings from God!
contd...i advocate choice, which means abortion or motherhood, and help to women who choose either, because neither path is easy... planned parenthood and crisis pregnancy although both biased both try and help women (dont argue im trying to reconcile here) we on both sides of this argument should stop the propaganda and get down to the core of the issue...the women because both sides are fighting (at least to an extent) for them.........
i am about as prochoice as can be, ppl on your side of the argument always demonize planned parenthood, and people on our side always demonize crisis pregnancy centres....now i will say if you guys (prolifers) want to provide women with help and services, i find no complaint in that, as long as women are still allowed to make an informed choice legally, than i have no problem with things like this...if all it took was kindness for them not to hav an abortion, than that wasnt their real choice
Also, how much do centers help with finances? The one girl said that gave her a few clothes and some diapers, not to mention a bible. Yeah. Big help. The clothes will last a few months, the diapers a week at most, and how the hell is a bible going to help, unless you can pull something and sell it for a hugely inflated price on Ebay?
I said many do. I didn't say all do. The ones I've had experience with do. Why don't you PM me instead of debating on YouTube? You must know who I am.
Like I said. Women who don't want to abort are the ones who get PAS. It's in your best interest to support things that offer alternatives to abortion.
CPCs usually provide clothes for baby from birth to 2or4 years of age depending on the center. Clothes are given in sets and usually quite a few outfits are given at a time. Clients are able to pick out outfits themselves - shopping for free! Maternity clothes are also offered in the same fashion. Diapers are usually provided on a biweekly or monthly basis. See more
The centers usually also provide classes such as cooking, first aid, parenting, and job resume building/work related classes that help clients too. The Bible, for most people who actually try to read and understand it, is most helpful in times of stress and provides comfort. If you don't agree, that's ok but don't diss the people who do benefit from a relationship with God.
"It's fully formed at 10 weeks" is meant to give the impression that the fetus is fully formed AND functioning. Obviously, a real doctor would say that while it is fully formed, it is not fully functional (as far as the brain is concerned, far from it).
It doesn't say fully functional. It says fully formed. Just like a bunch of pregnancy care sites say.
Doctors have talked to me about it, and NONE have said, "But it's not fully functional." They have said it's fully formed. Two of them I know for sure are pro-choice.
Lyme, "Post-abortion syndrome" has been disproven, so cut it.
The "crisis pregnancy centers" are named so that WOMEN WHO ARE PREGNANT WILL SEE THE NAME AND GO THERE. THEN they get fed propaganda. People don't tend to do research when in an unwanted pregnancy that they feel is a crisis.
Not according to religious tolerance. It happens in women who didn't want to abort but did. So you cut it. You obviously don't know anyone who has it. I do.
And on "not using the centers" if I don't like them: You don't like it when people tell you not to have an abortion if you're against it. YOU would take action against abortion. So why can't I take action when someone decides to tell women that "babies" are fully formed after 10 weeks and that God will help you with your financial struggles, knowing that they're all lies to guilt women into "choosing life?" You wouldn't tolerate that crap, and neither will I.
I must have missed where it says God will help you with your financial struggles. I saw how they said they'd give you supplies, and many centers really do help with finances.
If someone was telling me to have an abortion I'd say, "That's not for me." That would be the end of it. They're presenting one solution to pregnancy. They think it will help. I don't agree. That's that.
If they start lying and using pictures of 24 week old fetuses and say it's 10 weeks, I'll call it. But they aren't.
Lyme, you can have as many pro-life places set up as you want. My only problem is that the ones in existence tend to spread misinformation and guilt-trip women into doing what they want. It isn't my my best interest to allow people to spread propaganda on either side.
Guilt trip? Those parts are the abortion recovery for PAS. It does happen, with women who don't really want to abort but do because they feel they have no choice.
It's not misinformation to say, "It's fully formed at 10 weeks." Because according to embryology, it is. It's not fully functioning, but it is fully formed.
It has all the organs. Doctors will say it's fully formed. It just needs to grow. Like I said, they're not showing a picture of later stage and saying it's 10 weeks. There isn't a deception.
The prolife places spread misinformation and guilt tip women, obviously you've never been to Planned parenthood clinics. They overcharge, provide crappy care for the women who seek their services, barely go over the physical risks, let along pain aspect of an abortion, will do abortions (which are usually painful/uncomfortable) for clients w/o anesthetic because it costs too much to provide for free...and, oh, where is their care for if you pick an option that's not an abortion?
Alright, all of you people badmouthing this? Don't use it. You'd think that pro-choice people would like this because now the only people aborting would be the people who actually want it, and aren't likely to regret it, thus pushing up the PAS numbers up. If you want to keep the image that abortion doesn't hurt women, then let these places support women who don't want abortions but feel they have no other choice. It's in your own interest to support these places.
Some clothes, a few diapers, and a bible. Hooray. Wonderful. I bet you could pay for giving birth and a few years of childcare by making some weird vague discovery in it and selling the bible on Ebay.
Seriously, that's not "help." That's "Keep it! Your god wants you to reproduce! We don't care that you have to pay for giving birth and child care! We're going to give you a few things that won't last long, and then you're on your own!"
I was thinking about not having a baby because I was worrying about financially providing for it.
Thank god the pregnancy crisis center came in my life! I was given a pair of clothes, a few diapers, and a bible. Can you believe that a stranger at the center told me that God loved me?
I'm not sure how knowing that God loves me pays my bills, but I have found that the bible is a fabulous make-shift set of baby wipes! Those thin crinkly pages makes my baby's butt feel so divine!
I was thinking about not having a baby because I was worrying about financially providing for it.
Thank god the pregnancy crisis center came in my life! I was given a pair of clothes, a few diapers, and a bible. Can you believe that a stranger at the center told me that God loved me?
I'm not sure how knowing that God loves me pays my bills, but I have found that the bible is a fabulous make-shift set of baby wipes! Those thin crinkly pages makes my baby's butt feel so divine!
Setar, the verse you have in mind is Genesis 2:3. Paraphrased, God gave Adam his first breath and he became a living soul. Before then Adam wasn't Adam, he was just a soulless shell. A fetus is the same way, as you don't take your first breath until birth.
Fully formed baby at 10 weeks? There's a reason pregnancy lasts an average of nine months, lady.
Look, I'm sorry that woman felt like she had no choice when she got an abortion, and I'm sorry that she felt misinformed, but a "baby" is not fully developed at 10 weeks, and the heart does not start beating by the 4th week either.
I'm sick of all this propaganda portraying women who get abortions as immature, uninformed, young girls who feel like they have no choice. They want people to be "well-informed," yet I see very little truth coming out of the pro-life side.
^Exactly. There's another line in Jeremiah, but one must remember Jeremiah was a prophet. He's quite special in his regard. I think Genesis 2 says that Adam's soul came with the breath of life - first breath.
BZZTWRONG! Read: "If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. "And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth . . ."--Ex. 21:22-25
The bible orders the death penalty for murder of a human being, but not for the expulsion of a fetus.
BZZTWRONG! Read: "If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. "And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth . . ."--Ex. 21:22-25
The bible orders the death penalty for murder of a human being, but not for the expulsion of a fetus.
BZZTWRONG! Read: "If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. "And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth . . ."--Ex. 21:22-25
The bible orders the death penalty for murder of a human being, but not for the expulsion of a fetus.
Terrific my ass. "Crisis pregnancy centres" misinform and misrepresent. This is why you go to an OB/GYN when pregnant, because they KNOW what they're doing. These people just want to push their agenda, be happy that the oh-so-fucking-precious fetus is going to be born, then quit caring and move onto the next fetus.
Thank God for the LCPC.With the support of Faye Hill and all staff members, a little over six years ago they helped me make the best decision of my life.It has not been a easy road to travel but with the continued love and support from LCPC I can now stand alone and look back with no regrets.God blessed me with triplet boys.Jaylyn,Javaun,and Javion are truly one of a kind and heaven sent.Please always remember children are our blessings from God!
Yliana7848 5 months ago
god is a cunt
he gives women babies so they can abort them
just for laughs
MykeOkslong 1 year ago
ya'll need to google crisis pregnancy center watch
cpcwatch . org
landcmg 3 years ago
contd...i advocate choice, which means abortion or motherhood, and help to women who choose either, because neither path is easy... planned parenthood and crisis pregnancy although both biased both try and help women (dont argue im trying to reconcile here) we on both sides of this argument should stop the propaganda and get down to the core of the issue...the women because both sides are fighting (at least to an extent) for them.........
shruberz 3 years ago
i am about as prochoice as can be, ppl on your side of the argument always demonize planned parenthood, and people on our side always demonize crisis pregnancy centres....now i will say if you guys (prolifers) want to provide women with help and services, i find no complaint in that, as long as women are still allowed to make an informed choice legally, than i have no problem with things like this...if all it took was kindness for them not to hav an abortion, than that wasnt their real choice
shruberz 3 years ago
Check out The Campaign For Life in America. We support Crisis Pregnancy Care Center. Thank you!!
CampaignForLife 4 years ago
Forgiveness?
No one needs to be forgiven for an abortion.
However, there's a lot of people who should be seeking forgiveness after guilting women into choices they don't want - either way. =\
Metachronism 4 years ago
Also, how much do centers help with finances? The one girl said that gave her a few clothes and some diapers, not to mention a bible. Yeah. Big help. The clothes will last a few months, the diapers a week at most, and how the hell is a bible going to help, unless you can pull something and sell it for a hugely inflated price on Ebay?
Setar 4 years ago
I said many do. I didn't say all do. The ones I've had experience with do. Why don't you PM me instead of debating on YouTube? You must know who I am.
Like I said. Women who don't want to abort are the ones who get PAS. It's in your best interest to support things that offer alternatives to abortion.
Lymeladyish 4 years ago
CPCs usually provide clothes for baby from birth to 2or4 years of age depending on the center. Clothes are given in sets and usually quite a few outfits are given at a time. Clients are able to pick out outfits themselves - shopping for free! Maternity clothes are also offered in the same fashion. Diapers are usually provided on a biweekly or monthly basis. See more
Zephaniah31617 4 years ago
The centers usually also provide classes such as cooking, first aid, parenting, and job resume building/work related classes that help clients too. The Bible, for most people who actually try to read and understand it, is most helpful in times of stress and provides comfort. If you don't agree, that's ok but don't diss the people who do benefit from a relationship with God.
Zephaniah31617 4 years ago
"It's fully formed at 10 weeks" is meant to give the impression that the fetus is fully formed AND functioning. Obviously, a real doctor would say that while it is fully formed, it is not fully functional (as far as the brain is concerned, far from it).
I'll finish up next comment. Damn limit.
Setar 4 years ago
It doesn't say fully functional. It says fully formed. Just like a bunch of pregnancy care sites say.
Doctors have talked to me about it, and NONE have said, "But it's not fully functional." They have said it's fully formed. Two of them I know for sure are pro-choice.
Lymeladyish 4 years ago
Lyme, "Post-abortion syndrome" has been disproven, so cut it.
The "crisis pregnancy centers" are named so that WOMEN WHO ARE PREGNANT WILL SEE THE NAME AND GO THERE. THEN they get fed propaganda. People don't tend to do research when in an unwanted pregnancy that they feel is a crisis.
More next comment, due to the limit.
Setar 4 years ago
Not according to religious tolerance. It happens in women who didn't want to abort but did. So you cut it. You obviously don't know anyone who has it. I do.
Lymeladyish 4 years ago
And on "not using the centers" if I don't like them: You don't like it when people tell you not to have an abortion if you're against it. YOU would take action against abortion. So why can't I take action when someone decides to tell women that "babies" are fully formed after 10 weeks and that God will help you with your financial struggles, knowing that they're all lies to guilt women into "choosing life?" You wouldn't tolerate that crap, and neither will I.
CriminalPossession 4 years ago
I must have missed where it says God will help you with your financial struggles. I saw how they said they'd give you supplies, and many centers really do help with finances.
If someone was telling me to have an abortion I'd say, "That's not for me." That would be the end of it. They're presenting one solution to pregnancy. They think it will help. I don't agree. That's that.
If they start lying and using pictures of 24 week old fetuses and say it's 10 weeks, I'll call it. But they aren't.
Lymeladyish 4 years ago
Lyme, you can have as many pro-life places set up as you want. My only problem is that the ones in existence tend to spread misinformation and guilt-trip women into doing what they want. It isn't my my best interest to allow people to spread propaganda on either side.
CriminalPossession 4 years ago
Guilt trip? Those parts are the abortion recovery for PAS. It does happen, with women who don't really want to abort but do because they feel they have no choice.
It's not misinformation to say, "It's fully formed at 10 weeks." Because according to embryology, it is. It's not fully functioning, but it is fully formed.
Lymeladyish 4 years ago
A 10 week old fetus looks more like a deformed penis than a baby. Not what I'd call fully formed.
CriminalPossession 4 years ago
It has all the organs. Doctors will say it's fully formed. It just needs to grow. Like I said, they're not showing a picture of later stage and saying it's 10 weeks. There isn't a deception.
Lymeladyish 4 years ago
The prolife places spread misinformation and guilt tip women, obviously you've never been to Planned parenthood clinics. They overcharge, provide crappy care for the women who seek their services, barely go over the physical risks, let along pain aspect of an abortion, will do abortions (which are usually painful/uncomfortable) for clients w/o anesthetic because it costs too much to provide for free...and, oh, where is their care for if you pick an option that's not an abortion?
Zephaniah31617 4 years ago
Alright, all of you people badmouthing this? Don't use it. You'd think that pro-choice people would like this because now the only people aborting would be the people who actually want it, and aren't likely to regret it, thus pushing up the PAS numbers up. If you want to keep the image that abortion doesn't hurt women, then let these places support women who don't want abortions but feel they have no other choice. It's in your own interest to support these places.
Lymeladyish 4 years ago
Some clothes, a few diapers, and a bible. Hooray. Wonderful. I bet you could pay for giving birth and a few years of childcare by making some weird vague discovery in it and selling the bible on Ebay.
Seriously, that's not "help." That's "Keep it! Your god wants you to reproduce! We don't care that you have to pay for giving birth and child care! We're going to give you a few things that won't last long, and then you're on your own!"
Setar 4 years ago
I was thinking about not having a baby because I was worrying about financially providing for it.
Thank god the pregnancy crisis center came in my life! I was given a pair of clothes, a few diapers, and a bible. Can you believe that a stranger at the center told me that God loved me?
I'm not sure how knowing that God loves me pays my bills, but I have found that the bible is a fabulous make-shift set of baby wipes! Those thin crinkly pages makes my baby's butt feel so divine!
gottagrip 4 years ago
I was thinking about not having a baby because I was worrying about financially providing for it.
Thank god the pregnancy crisis center came in my life! I was given a pair of clothes, a few diapers, and a bible. Can you believe that a stranger at the center told me that God loved me?
I'm not sure how knowing that God loves me pays my bills, but I have found that the bible is a fabulous make-shift set of baby wipes! Those thin crinkly pages makes my baby's butt feel so divine!
gottagrip 4 years ago
Bull.
mefornow 4 years ago
Setar, the verse you have in mind is Genesis 2:3. Paraphrased, God gave Adam his first breath and he became a living soul. Before then Adam wasn't Adam, he was just a soulless shell. A fetus is the same way, as you don't take your first breath until birth.
Fully formed baby at 10 weeks? There's a reason pregnancy lasts an average of nine months, lady.
CriminalPossession 4 years ago
Look, I'm sorry that woman felt like she had no choice when she got an abortion, and I'm sorry that she felt misinformed, but a "baby" is not fully developed at 10 weeks, and the heart does not start beating by the 4th week either.
I'm sick of all this propaganda portraying women who get abortions as immature, uninformed, young girls who feel like they have no choice. They want people to be "well-informed," yet I see very little truth coming out of the pro-life side.
FreeWil 4 years ago
^Exactly. There's another line in Jeremiah, but one must remember Jeremiah was a prophet. He's quite special in his regard. I think Genesis 2 says that Adam's soul came with the breath of life - first breath.
Setar 4 years ago
BZZTWRONG! Read: "If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. "And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth . . ."--Ex. 21:22-25
The bible orders the death penalty for murder of a human being, but not for the expulsion of a fetus.
daria319 4 years ago
BZZTWRONG! Read: "If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. "And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth . . ."--Ex. 21:22-25
The bible orders the death penalty for murder of a human being, but not for the expulsion of a fetus.
daria319 4 years ago
BZZTWRONG! Read: "If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. "And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth . . ."--Ex. 21:22-25
The bible orders the death penalty for murder of a human being, but not for the expulsion of a fetus.
daria319 4 years ago
Terrific my ass. "Crisis pregnancy centres" misinform and misrepresent. This is why you go to an OB/GYN when pregnant, because they KNOW what they're doing. These people just want to push their agenda, be happy that the oh-so-fucking-precious fetus is going to be born, then quit caring and move onto the next fetus.
Setar 4 years ago
a little cheesy but its still something that ppl should hear
heidilou2010 5 years ago
Beautiful...
NatalieMillerMK 5 years ago