I am currently watching the video, and no need to worry am not judging anything. Am completely open minded and listen to various opinions before making a decision....however there is one thing that is bothering me.....this person is talking about all the stuffs that she was exposed to and doesn't show any sign of trauma, or emotional let out...so could you please tell me if this was the first time she was giving testimony or this case went on for a longer period of time..
@CrazyShash311 You are correct that the reaction is silenced. I don't know what to believe of it myself, but I do know that sometimes people can have memories detached of feelings. However, none of the members of the audience seem surprised by what they hear. This is more puzzling to me...
@robinhoodsun Most people don't believe this because it destroys their perception of the way government operates. Their perceptions are programmed into them by the media. That is why whenever a story about the president or intelligence services is portrayed, it's almost always shown how moral and upstanding they are. The exception is when something cruel/immoral/evil is shown, then it's said to be a "rogue element" in the government that is taken out of action by the end of the movie.
@robinhoodsun We are all programmed to a certain extent. The media is called "the media" because it is in the middle or buffer between the people and the government. It's purpose is not to entertain but to program the population. Hence you get people like enVme731 making any excuse they can come up with to deny what's really going on. I've heard the excuse before "this was admitted to and stopped!". That was a show put on by the Rockefeller commission.
This is crazy talk, of course the government lies and is corrupt but this does not happen in today's government of America. Stop saying the government is criminal, protest and up-rise if you feel you know such truths.
@enVme731 Let me add that the people of this country are hypnotized daily by the government controlled media/. Americans rarely do any analytical thinking or independent research of their own. Most of the information we receive is given to us by them... CNN, your newspapers... the corrupt politicians. No one is going to rise-up against this government or the poweres that be. Operastion cable slice, garden plot, and many more programs and laws have been instituted to stop public unrests should
@enVme731 it become necessary to do so. However, like you most people are unaware that an issue exist. We're easily be distracted by family issues, the media, and our own lives to research this information. It's interesting that the government had hoped that people would think MKultra is so bizarre that it couldn't possibly exist. There is much classified information on the subject, some of which has been destroyed or white-out to keep YOU from knowing exactly what has/and will happen.
@Craverofchocolate Also media putting people through a system of automation is another topic that I do not want to get into but do believe is corrupt and people should be aware of it. Family problems though are completely different, those are real. And our government is eventually going to change, we've seen all absolute empires fall. And people are actually distracted more so by things like legalization of marijuana (pathetic) and a governor sending personal pictures to a girl (makes me sick)
@enVme731 You have yet to answer the questions I've posted as well. This government has been involved in mind control, torture and various other horrible institutions. You can read online about recent testing on american citizens. There's oklenbty of information online. I will happily add some links to NEWS sources reporting such information. Check your porofile page in 5min.
@Craverofchocolate Of course this government has been involved in mind control, in the early 50s (or 60s?) and other unwilling human experiments. Such as giving American citizens artificial blood which ended up causing the subjects to have health complications, again..this was admitted to and stopped!
@enVme731 How can you be sure that your government will change? What do you think they are doing and have done mk for? For fun? I won't respond anymore, I just urge everyone reading this to do YOUR OWN RESEARCH. You don't have to listen to me or enVme731. Become analytical, ask questions, and do your own independent research.
holy shit, wtf did i just watch??? its like a scene from the movies...our goverment is sick and twisted and i will never trust what any of them say ever again. no wonder our world is so fukd up!!!
@my4babiez NO don't listen to this, take it with a ton of salt. Our government did this 50 years ago, even admitted and apologized for it . MKUltra was actually a Nazi program, the American one was different but does not exist today. These people are conspiracists, sure our government lies and hides many things and is economically/politically corrupt but these people sitting at their computer desks are believing BS and wouldn't dare do something about it.
@enVme731 Sure it does. There are many mind-control programs, they just go under different names. How can you prove that it doesn't still happen in today's government?... Because the government told you they stopped programming so we just believe them? LOL! You already admit that this programming did exist and that the government is corrupt that should leave enough room for suspicion right there. People are still coming forward.
@enVme731 Why do you think the government test mkultra on its citizens? Why do you think they would bring nazi scientist here to implement these programs? WHy would they stop experimenting (my biggest question)? Why have most of the victims who've come forward been killed or paid off?
@Craverofchocolate I know MKUltra is not still in plan today, nor is any other mind control program. So is there like supposed to be a select group of children who are being raised perfectly to take on the future roles of the "elite" (which I strongly do and do not believe they exist but that is another topic), otherwise how would a future exist with everyone being ignorant? And do you actually know any victims or did you gain that information off some website that says Lady Gaga is Illuminati
@enVme731 You say you KNOW for a certainty that this programming still doesn';t exist, how would you know? The government has worked to conceal this information as a means of national security. There is never going to be concrete enough proof for skeptics. There are plenty of survivor blogs online telling their stories. Plenty of research in pop culture suggest that mkultra is aive and well in the entertainment industry and in your very home.
@Craverofchocolate How can you KNOW for certain that these silly testimonies and reports are legit. These ones of MKCulture in the 1950s (or 60s?) are real but it makes no sense for the government to create projects. And that research in pop culture is pure bologna, why would such "all powering" groups use symbols that the majority of people do not recognize and are taught to reject by society (which should be controlled by these groups..?), doesn't make sense.... like Lady Gaga and the "devil"
Who they are? What is their tactic and reasons of doing it?
There are several speculations, as to who they are. One is that they are NSA (National Security Agency, American), others claim them to be Jewish Intelligence agency, and even others claim them to be Russians. Their exact identity will only be exposed once they are caught. Therefore, if this is all so wide spread then why are they not caught yet? With all the technology these days?
Watch a Pre-January 8th copy of Inception. Listen closely when the actors say imagine, reality, and safe, or point pistols. You'll hear the words, Loughner, offin' her, part of the word Giffords, and much more. Some say they hear, do it.
Watch a Pre-January 8th copy of Inception. Listen closely when the actors say imagine, reality, and safe, or point pistols. You'll hear the words, Loughner, offin' her, part of the word Giffords, and much more. Some say they hear, do it.
OOH Yes, this is very true There are US as well as Canadian victims. The government are beasts! What I have been finding out would make a grown man fall to his knees and cry :..( The grown victims were children being abused.. check out China Lake ,Ca. MK-ultra child torture. You will be surprised what you will find in your search. This is not a hidden project. but it is the American people who were hidden..
This girl tried to "Kick The Hornets Nest". In the updated version of MK-ULTRA therapists are used for 1 thing, depleting funds. Torture today is so "refined" that u can go for yrs thinking u are PS & hearing voices before being finally told otherwise. Remote V2K "Voice 2 Skull" tech is the method used for sleep deprivation & to deliver "voices", burning, rapid heart. Steig Larsson died of a "heart attack"? I was doubled over 12 times with very rapid heartbeat - synthetically induced.
It's funny that you say that underwood4321, when the goverment admitted to preforming these experiments and appologized for it in 1995. These crimes that they committed where extremly immoral and it's a shame that you refuse to believe what the goverment really does behind closed doors.
@punkid138 then when youre done watch the" conspiracy of silence" by the BBC- before you deny this was a real case reported by tom brokaw known as the "cia white house callboy scandal(here on youtube actual newscast) the franklin scandal was a child sex ring that provided children to senators congressman business man etc- the childrens case was handled by two state senators from nebraska who recieved death threats from their own party one is John decamp- state senator vietnam warhero and lawyer)
Aside from the admittedly high humor value of listening to these whackjobs,babble on and on, one has to wonder what kind of idiot would actually believe the fantasies of these poor, delusional fools.
They just feed off each other, probably -- a symbiotic relationship much like pairing a sadistic loony with a masochistic loony.
I think I'll use this video in my Abnormal Psych class.
@Underwood4321 thats odd because they said the same thing about the guatemalan prisoners who claimed the CIA gave them deadly stds like syphhlis and gonorrhea in the 40s and 50s- after pressure the us govt and president obama publically apoligized and made public the records of these CIA experiments(some died others lived in pain as you can imagine) feel free to google this it was on cnn msnbc and in every paper worldwide- Google "u.s apoligizes to guatemala for experiments" delusional huh?
@Underwood4321 just wanted to add im not a holocaust denier or beleive 9--11 was an inside job etc(most conspiracies are crap but ones involving the CIA and the franklin case are well documented) but most of these CIA claims have come out to be true- theres a case where soldiers where given lsd without knowing they sued and won a case against the us govt- the french sued the us govt for allegedly spraying a french town with lsd-(no verdict) i guess the french govt must be all delusional
these are the real testimonies of MKULTRA and are the real evidence of what is going on. Cathy O'Brien and Arizona Wilder are most likely CIA agents spreading disinformation and bringing ridicule to this most disturbing activity.
Excellent series of videos on this subject Marsboy
I do not feel the experiment ended then as I know in Ireland in 1995 children were to be removed from their parents for being too intelligent and shock to be used.
We never got an answer from the Minister for children etc.
Excellent video.I have an open mind. I believe the testimonies of these survivors. I also believe there is population control going on.Whatever it takes to control the masses.Unfortunately when you mention this to some people they think your crazy.Why is it so hard to believe devious experiments go on through our government than believing the victims of the experiments? Why do we put so much trust in the government to allow us to think they couldn't be capable of these horrendous acts?
Unfortunately there`s too many narrow minded/ skeptical people out there who`s brains can`t believe this true information. These narrow minds still believe that 19 arabs did 9/11. They just find it very hard to believe that the American government would lie, cheat or steal from them. But the reality is that the American government CONSTANTLY lies and cheats. All these CIA, Mossad, FBI.. etc.. are the biggest crooks and liars on this earth & they`ll stop at nothing to make sure they keep control.
@ManFromMelbourne that is so true, they blaming muslims for the 911 and im muslim so i was pissed, the goc is also prgramming little kids so when they grow up they become famous singers, rihanna started singing when she was young, now look at her....
@ManFromMelbourne lol 19 arabs??? Is that like the game UNO??? Heck ya the govt had there hand in 911.. It's been a while since the todo..so paperworks start missing, and the grip is loosening up, people get older develop a conscience, blow the whistle on stuff.. and what I cant understand is why the govt let bin laden and his fmy get in a plane and allowed them to fly home seconds after the bombing.. all flights were suspended at that time., but away he went flying back to the middle east
The CIA, Secret Service, NSA And DHS In Particular Have Nothing To Do With Protecting The American People & Instead Everything To Do With Destroying Us & Our Freedom. The CIA in particular should be destroyed! Power tends to corrupt, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
We need to get the word out about this kind of thing. Nevermind the conspiracy theories--just look at some of the terrible things our government admits to doing to people.
"The FRANKLIN SCANDAL is the story of a nationwide pedophile ring that pandered children to a cabal of the rich and powerful. The rings pimps were a pair of Republican powerbrokers who used Boys Town as a pedophiliac reservoir, had access to the highest levels of our government, and connections to the CIA."
If other countrys do this to us Its not right to spy on them Oh america the rich its perfect get a life people If it wasnt for these tests other countrys would run us over their doing it and much more Good ole boys in NAM got their minds blown by there torture! We were unaware of these techinques Theres no crime in other countrys We have to be educated on this. Any doctor knows you can never know what the mind thinks didnt break her down much look she american shes going for the money!
We don't have the money or power they have, plus they do everything covertly and deny, deny, deny. I wonder if this has been done to the pilots of the military planes who keep spraying us with molds, bacterias, viruses, chaff, barium, and aluminum oxide. These are called chemtrails (in case you never look at the sky).
stupid goddamn americans using nazis to terrorize their own country's childeren, men and women.... someone should just break down their military government...
it's so easy to doubt, even easier to laugh and call someone a "psycho," it does take a little effort though, to do a little research. MKULTRA is a well documented historical episode which, I'm sorry to say, is only the begining.
Like "wesmantodd" say's "it's so easy to doubt, even easier to laugh and call someone a "psycho," it does take a little effort though, to do a little research. MKULTRA is a well documented historical episode which, I'm sorry to say, is only the begining." do some research knuckle head
"The Agency itself acknowledged that these tests made little scientific sense. The agents doing the monitoring were not qualified scientific observers."
Ted Kennedy commenting on the commission's findings on the Senate floor in 1977.
"The Deputy Director of the CIA revealed that over thirty universities and institutions were involved in an 'extensive testing and experimentation' program which included covert drug tests on unwitting citizens 'at all social levels, high and low, native Americans and foreign.' Several of these tests involved the administration of LSD to 'unwitting subjects in social situations.' At least one death, that of Dr. Olson, resulted from these activities."
Lizard-people? Space aliens? Talking to animals? The clip makes no mention of such nonsense. It sounds more like you're the one who needs medications adjusted, because you're clearly hallucinating.
This is testimony before congress during the 'Rockefeller Comission' during the summer of 1975 and is all a matter of public record.
The government has more refined techniques today and are using them on a lot of people, many of whom are totally unaware that this is happening to them.
"The government has more refined techniques today and are using them on a lot of people..."
For which you have not one bit of evidence -- but if it fits into your delusional frame of mind, go ahead and enjoy it. Don't let anything annoying like truth, or common sense, get in the way of your happiness.
It's been happening to me since 1986 and many others. We are trying to Congress to appeal Cointelpro & we are trying to get this in the open via many avenues.
Yeah, but unlike you most of us know the actual history of it, and don't think it's still around, run by space-alien technology from Alex Jones' lizard-people.
all i have to say is that "if there is a will there is a way" and to suggest that mind control is a complete farce seems to me more ignorant than considering these things to be possible. in fact from what ive gathered in my independent study of psychology mind control of this nature seems quite probable. Then again i may be a "gullible and simple-minded lunatic" u decide.
In other words, even though you haven't a clue how this might be done, and no evidence it was EVER done, since you think it might be possible .... we should believe it.
It doesn't work that way, except for little children and fairy tales.
Yeah, well if you believe one word that any of these lonnies say, you're even more messed up than they are. At least they have an excuse, being about three beers short of a six-pack. Of course, you might be, too, but more than likely just a gullible moron.
After wasting this much time watching a drooling mental patient recount her hallucinations and sexual fantasies, I damn sure wouldn't waste two and half HOURS of the same howling-at-the-moon fantasies narrated by bewildered paranoid fruit-loops.
The incidence of truly paranoid people who believe every "conspiracy of the week" seems to be seriously increasing. Probably just due to the high level of hatred for the current US administration. The lefties will push any loon scheme that bashes Bush, no questions asked, and since he's a huge disappointment to conservatives, he's screwed from both ends. The commies, socialists, closed-border types, zany New World Order-Black Helicopter weenies ... a unique set of strange bedfellows.
I personally believe that the current administration has pushed the CT's over the edge as well. I am not a CT, but I know that this administration had at least a small role in 9/11 and it's coverups. There is too much evidence to state that something very strange was not going on behind the scenes.
With that said, I find it funny that people cling to such "CT" or "Anti-CT" identities that they choose sides before the information is even provided. The CT's gobble up every bit of information that fits their strange delusions, while the anti-CT's refuse to even investigate the possiblity of a cover-up.
When these two polar opposites are the only voices being heard, it is impossible to come to a clear understanding on the truth, which usually lies in between CT and anti-CT.
Please watch the entire film (new version). Go to my channel, youtube.../marsboy683, click playlist, click Monarch, click play all videos, run time 2.5hrs. enjoy!
Didya know? Both Bush and John Kerry were in Skull and Bones together. Win win. Marvin Bush's company Securacom aka Stratasec was responsible for the security in the twins up to the day they fell. Prescott Bush helped the nazi's. Arnold Schwarznegger's dad is a nazi. Karl Rove's gramps, and didn't Jimmy Carter help a nazi? Rep and Dem are basically run by the same people. Novus Ordo Seclorum ain't on our money cause it's cute.
I'd like some documented facts to back up your statements, not just paranoid NWO talk passed on from word of mouth. If our government was really as smart as you claim (setting up a fail proof governmental scheme) than things like Watergate would have never happened. We would have been a dictatorship a long time ago had the American government been the evil geniuses that you claim.
So you think the gov is just too stupid for words? IN that case, it should still replaced. What's a fact to you? Something on paper? You could still dispute it. My gramps is a mason, and he ain't nice.
Don't swallow everything the gov tells the mainstream media to tell you.
You're twisting my words. I never said the government was "stupid" I simply said they weren't evil geniuses. They would have caused alot more damage by now if they were some Satanical group of people bent on suffering and world domination.
A fact to me is something that is proven via equation or sensory recording. This would most likely be documented visually (declassified reports, video tape).
I didn't mean to put words in your mouth. Are they not in control of OUR lives? Can they not fix inner cities and human trafficking? Of course they can. They've caused damage throughout the WORLD. I believe they are responsible for damn near everything. Watch this YT film-Freemason (illuminati)Who are they? Skull and Bones!! NWO- Long title.
I understand your anger at the current American administration. I feel the same sense of being let down as you do; however, I believe that America (as well as the rest of the world) has been let down by terrible leadership, negligence, and overall political failure. I don't think this is all some plan of genius proportions. Many of the people in high ranking positions aren't very smart in the first place, and that's part of the problem.
I have watched many movies on the NWO, the illuminati, Skill & Bones, 9/11, impending martial law, ect... and I find them very interesting. With that said, the facts just don't add up, and we'd be in much worse shape had these conspiracies proven to be true.
To answer your question, no the government is not in control of our lives. I am free to do more here than I can in most other nations, all while enjoying the highest rate of living. The government controls some aspects of everyday life, but all governments do.
Yes, the gov controls EVERYTHING. I don't call our women being pressured into being and dressing like hookers, marriage decline, gay corruption parades, freedom. Just a few examples.
so thats what you call being free. working for the man for the rest of your lives.then when your done throw you in a board and care home and take all the money you saved for medical bills.i feel sorry for you
If I don't want to work for "the man" I can always graduate college and work my ass off to start my own company and become "the man". People who claim that the government, or "the man" holds them back are really just making excuses for their own laziness.
It must be their own laziness that our innocent government pushes their smuggled drugs through certain communities.
Why, if we were all well off enough, who'd serve at McDonalds? Oh nermind, the gov will just get slave labor from the illegals. Being the border is still wide open and all for whatever reason.
Even the rich will tell ya you gotta be rich to get rich.
Drugs, alcohol, hookers, pornography & pedophilia were here long before 1776. Were the French & British pushing them then?
The illegals in my area are getting 10-12 bucks an hour on construction sites & paying no taxes. Not quite poverty in my book, especially w/free health care.
Nobody shoves vice down someone's throat. It's a stupid personal choice. Take some responsibility instead of blaming everything on someone else.
Yes, and they were just as immoral then as they are now.
You're right, illegals got it better than USA citizens because the gov is the one who's actually hiring them. They don't want American workers anymore.
I blame this society for allowing immorality to be it's base. Everybody else has to live here too including the children. I'm sick of symptoms being medicated instead of the problems being fixed because if you fix the problems then the corporations go kaput.
"I don't call our women being pressured into being and dressing like hookers, marriage decline, gay corruption parades, freedom"
I do. You'd prefer some sort of freedom where the govt STOPPED things you don't like? Try Iran.
You seem to have slipped so deep into paranoia that you don't even make sense. Next step: fantasizing that the CIA has been experimenting on you for years and years ....
"Are they not in control of OUR lives? Can they not fix inner cities?"
You can only believe this codswallop if you believe the govt has satanic, magical powers -- a concept completely unbelievable to anyone who has ever worked in Washington. Not just unbelievable -- laughable.
Those who swallow this drivel are so unable to cope with reality that they've invented a scapegoat upon which to blame the world's -- and their own -- imperfections.
"the government isn't smart enough to do something like this."
Exactly. Slick Willie couldn't keep a blowjob in a closet secret, with no witnesses; what are the odds of keeping a secret with many thousands in on the plot & coverup? Can you imagine the millions they'd get for book & movie rights by blowing the whistle?
No, gullible and simple-minded is thinking that the government gives a damn about lunatics like this one, or Cathy O'Brien (another even worse). Anyone who thinks this is how you recruit assassins, or that the government would go to this much trouble over it, has a serious screw loose.
A government evil enough to do this, and with this much money invested in a project, wouldn't let renegades like these wander around loose. They'd just kill them, and nobody would even notice.
Really. So how do you brainwash people into doing what you want them to do? Just...flash a few cards?
They could kill them, or they could just let them tell their stories because there's people like you, and they can't do anything about it anyway. Except tell their stories.
It's absurd that you expect me to believe that your grandfather is a mason. According to your own perspective, masons/skull and bones/government are all evil and controlling. You would not be allowed to go around telling people who is part of this evil elite group and who isn't.
My gramps is a mason. Masons are charitable out in the open so that they seem like good people. Just like you, I can go around screaming that masons are bad, but the masons will step up and make me out to be crazy. Some won't even admit they're masons. It's all about keeping the secrets. My gramps is a bully. I didn't contradict myself. He's 33rd degree. 40 or 50 some odd years of freemasonry.
If what you say is true, can you explain what his group of freemasons do? It seems to me like they're just some club that likes to think that they are superior to others, all while holding no real political (or otherwise important) power.
They worship satan, except you don't know what's really going on until a certain degree. It's a club that comes straight out of Babylon. They believe they are superior, and they are running our governements. Tony Blair is a mason. Even my grandmother brags about being friends with the congressman. And America wouldn't be one big masonic symbol if they had no say. Novus Ordo Seclorum isn't printed on our currency because it was a fun thing to do.
They just aren't that smart it seems. I guess I have always been a step ahead of my peers, and most people for that matter, in the education department. If these masons truely think that they are superior to the rest of us (which they may be to average Americans) than they are sadly mistaken.
Worshipping Satan and letting information like this leak into the general public isn't smart at all. I think they would be suprised to know just how many intellectual people are left in American amoung the average, moronic wave of idiots.
Anyone who believes this silly shit about masons worshipping satan and controlling the governments has even more screws loose than these pathetic, paranoid fruit-loops in the video.
The US was basically founded by masons, but the group is so far in decline that their average age is 70-ish, and will probably disappear in a few decades.
that's what you'll be thinking when they round up you and your family and put you in concentration camps!!!your probably the type that believes everthing they watch on tv!!!
And you're obviously one who believes everything they hear at Jumping Jesus meetings, and everything they read on loony websites that prey on the illiterate and gullible.
If it's Masons rounding people up, it'll be fun to watch them doing it in wheelchairs and walkers.
Elsewhere, if you Google around, O'Brien posts a video clip where it shows where the Evil Conspirators carved a "devil's face" into her vagina with an X-acto knife. With some imagination, you can see kind of a nose & a crooked mouth in her vaginal folds ....
Since then, I can't help snickering whenever I visit a new vagina closely, finding (so far) a bat, a cow-head and the face of Jesus -- even clearer than on those taco shells. Ruining my sex life, it is.
There was experperiments at other psych hospitals, in other areas of N. America. very subtle. told you were very sick , radiated, never to live normally. very very hideous acts. i can not talk about this fear for my life.
The wackos feed on this stuff greedily. Anyone care to bet this is some sad ex-psych ward case who thinks those doctors that listed him as paranoid schizophrenic were all CIA plotters?
Like the CIA really gives a shit about some ex-mental patient working at minimum wage somewhere, forgetting to take his Lithium.
I hope the government swipes u up off the street someday without your consent and does experiments on you. Hell, if they do, they'll probably do the world a favor.
Rather a hate-filled little response, isn't it? Does anyone who doesn't happen to agree with your point of view deserve to be tortured as these people claim?
So you had bad experiences while you were in a number of mental hospitals? But you can't talk about it? haven't you already let the cat out of the bag, and won't they be looking for you already?
ya, read how you spooks, (if you really r a spook) can cause heart attacks with no evidence and kill invisibly,, ha youd never tell the public, (no would ya, yours truly....catch me if ya can)
Like the ancient info in this film, "untraceable heart attacks" are old hat, but now they commonly test for succinylcholine chloride at autopsy. mostly doctors used it anyhow. Killing with no risk or suspicion has never been any real trick for anyone with half a brain & some creativity. God only knows how many are gotten away with every year.
It's Darwin at work - the smart killing the dumb. It's almost ... humanitarian.
In fact, I HAVE looked it up. My real point was supposed to be an inherent one, in that they would have probably taped this kind of stuff.
This would also be to clearly show what this girl is talking about... because I have a feeling her memories are very laden with fear, and could possibly distory the manner in which the processes took place.
Either way, I just want to see it taking place with my own eyes. Is that such a crime?
This isn't UFO stuff. Project MK ULTRA is a very real and recently declassified CIA mind control experiment conducted by the US government. You need to do some research before you conform to what the rest of your sheeply friends tell you and not believe all this conspiracy theory type stuff. MK ULTRA, Project Paperclip, Operation GLADIO, ABLE DANGER, look this stuff up and educate yourself.
"UFO" is a good analogy, since most of these crank conspiracy nuts are just as gullible as UFO freaks, and the crap they feed on is just as flaky. This "recently declassified" stuff was in the NY Times 30-40 years ago, but keeps getting regurgitated.
It was a waste of money, didn't work worth a damn, and only Jim Marrs-type nutjobs swallow this swill. But there are a number of them ... all very busy on YouTube.
Since UFO is a good analogy according to this post. And later in your post you admit that it did happen, what is it? Fact or fiction? Do you even know? Your own statements contradict themselves. You don't even know what's going on. WTC 7, ABLE DANGER, PROJECT PAPERCLIP, all this shit is real, but it's you that cannot grasp what is happening around you. I'm not a nut job, you're just an idiot.
There is nothing alien about UFO sightings...just something someone cannot explain. The analogy, however, was to the total gullibility of the "alien invasion" freaks and the conspiracy zombies that leap to the most bizarre conclusions to justify their preconceived delusions. Dragging up 50-year-old declassified crap, and tacking bullshit onto it, doesn't constitute actual research -- just paranoia. Perhaps it helps drown out the laughter of all the normal people.
It gives the norms POWER & CONTROL.. tis all..and theyre making more of a mess of the war... they need the gas for their car cars, theyre embarassed to take public transit. their friends might laugh at them. boo hoo.
I am currently watching the video, and no need to worry am not judging anything. Am completely open minded and listen to various opinions before making a decision....however there is one thing that is bothering me.....this person is talking about all the stuffs that she was exposed to and doesn't show any sign of trauma, or emotional let out...so could you please tell me if this was the first time she was giving testimony or this case went on for a longer period of time..
Thanks in advance
CrazyShash311 4 weeks ago
@CrazyShash311 You are correct that the reaction is silenced. I don't know what to believe of it myself, but I do know that sometimes people can have memories detached of feelings. However, none of the members of the audience seem surprised by what they hear. This is more puzzling to me...
DreamFairy0 2 weeks ago
Dr. Green was the pseudonym for the infamous Nazi Josef Mengele (angel of death) when he was secreted to the US after the war under project paperclip
PantsInTheFamily 4 months ago
why would you average people defend the government? it's a well known fact that governments aroung the world are rotten to the core.
robinhoodsun 6 months ago
@robinhoodsun Most people don't believe this because it destroys their perception of the way government operates. Their perceptions are programmed into them by the media. That is why whenever a story about the president or intelligence services is portrayed, it's almost always shown how moral and upstanding they are. The exception is when something cruel/immoral/evil is shown, then it's said to be a "rogue element" in the government that is taken out of action by the end of the movie.
bobofloblaws 5 months ago in playlist Project MKULTRA background
@bobofloblaws ~Fear is an excellent motivating factor in peoples' state of Denial.
88MPJ 3 months ago
@robinhoodsun We are all programmed to a certain extent. The media is called "the media" because it is in the middle or buffer between the people and the government. It's purpose is not to entertain but to program the population. Hence you get people like enVme731 making any excuse they can come up with to deny what's really going on. I've heard the excuse before "this was admitted to and stopped!". That was a show put on by the Rockefeller commission.
bobofloblaws 5 months ago in playlist Project MKULTRA background
This is crazy talk, of course the government lies and is corrupt but this does not happen in today's government of America. Stop saying the government is criminal, protest and up-rise if you feel you know such truths.
enVme731 8 months ago
@enVme731 Let me add that the people of this country are hypnotized daily by the government controlled media/. Americans rarely do any analytical thinking or independent research of their own. Most of the information we receive is given to us by them... CNN, your newspapers... the corrupt politicians. No one is going to rise-up against this government or the poweres that be. Operastion cable slice, garden plot, and many more programs and laws have been instituted to stop public unrests should
Craverofchocolate 7 months ago
@enVme731 it become necessary to do so. However, like you most people are unaware that an issue exist. We're easily be distracted by family issues, the media, and our own lives to research this information. It's interesting that the government had hoped that people would think MKultra is so bizarre that it couldn't possibly exist. There is much classified information on the subject, some of which has been destroyed or white-out to keep YOU from knowing exactly what has/and will happen.
Craverofchocolate 7 months ago
@Craverofchocolate Also media putting people through a system of automation is another topic that I do not want to get into but do believe is corrupt and people should be aware of it. Family problems though are completely different, those are real. And our government is eventually going to change, we've seen all absolute empires fall. And people are actually distracted more so by things like legalization of marijuana (pathetic) and a governor sending personal pictures to a girl (makes me sick)
enVme731 7 months ago
@enVme731 You have yet to answer the questions I've posted as well. This government has been involved in mind control, torture and various other horrible institutions. You can read online about recent testing on american citizens. There's oklenbty of information online. I will happily add some links to NEWS sources reporting such information. Check your porofile page in 5min.
Craverofchocolate 7 months ago
@Craverofchocolate Of course this government has been involved in mind control, in the early 50s (or 60s?) and other unwilling human experiments. Such as giving American citizens artificial blood which ended up causing the subjects to have health complications, again..this was admitted to and stopped!
enVme731 7 months ago
@enVme731 They stopped and moved onto something else.
poyner1134 4 months ago
@enVme731 How can you be sure that your government will change? What do you think they are doing and have done mk for? For fun? I won't respond anymore, I just urge everyone reading this to do YOUR OWN RESEARCH. You don't have to listen to me or enVme731. Become analytical, ask questions, and do your own independent research.
Craverofchocolate 7 months ago
@Craverofchocolate I have done tons of research, I love proving people who believe in this nonsense, wrong.
enVme731 7 months ago
@enVme731 you're an agent.
robinhoodsun 6 months ago
@enVme731 Project MK Ultra has been officially declassified. The fact that there is a testimony isn't that much of a surprise.
isaacfreeman1 6 months ago in playlist Project MKULTRA background
poor her, they won't help you, they are all in it aswell....
Daphneketje 8 months ago
holy shit, wtf did i just watch??? its like a scene from the movies...our goverment is sick and twisted and i will never trust what any of them say ever again. no wonder our world is so fukd up!!!
my4babiez 8 months ago
@my4babiez NO don't listen to this, take it with a ton of salt. Our government did this 50 years ago, even admitted and apologized for it . MKUltra was actually a Nazi program, the American one was different but does not exist today. These people are conspiracists, sure our government lies and hides many things and is economically/politically corrupt but these people sitting at their computer desks are believing BS and wouldn't dare do something about it.
enVme731 8 months ago
@enVme731 Sure it does. There are many mind-control programs, they just go under different names. How can you prove that it doesn't still happen in today's government?... Because the government told you they stopped programming so we just believe them? LOL! You already admit that this programming did exist and that the government is corrupt that should leave enough room for suspicion right there. People are still coming forward.
Craverofchocolate 7 months ago
@enVme731 Why do you think the government test mkultra on its citizens? Why do you think they would bring nazi scientist here to implement these programs? WHy would they stop experimenting (my biggest question)? Why have most of the victims who've come forward been killed or paid off?
Craverofchocolate 7 months ago
@Craverofchocolate I know MKUltra is not still in plan today, nor is any other mind control program. So is there like supposed to be a select group of children who are being raised perfectly to take on the future roles of the "elite" (which I strongly do and do not believe they exist but that is another topic), otherwise how would a future exist with everyone being ignorant? And do you actually know any victims or did you gain that information off some website that says Lady Gaga is Illuminati
enVme731 7 months ago
@enVme731 You say you KNOW for a certainty that this programming still doesn';t exist, how would you know? The government has worked to conceal this information as a means of national security. There is never going to be concrete enough proof for skeptics. There are plenty of survivor blogs online telling their stories. Plenty of research in pop culture suggest that mkultra is aive and well in the entertainment industry and in your very home.
Craverofchocolate 7 months ago
@Craverofchocolate How can you KNOW for certain that these silly testimonies and reports are legit. These ones of MKCulture in the 1950s (or 60s?) are real but it makes no sense for the government to create projects. And that research in pop culture is pure bologna, why would such "all powering" groups use symbols that the majority of people do not recognize and are taught to reject by society (which should be controlled by these groups..?), doesn't make sense.... like Lady Gaga and the "devil"
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There are several speculations, as to who they are. One is that they are NSA (National Security Agency, American), others claim them to be Jewish Intelligence agency, and even others claim them to be Russians. Their exact identity will only be exposed once they are caught. Therefore, if this is all so wide spread then why are they not caught yet? With all the technology these days?
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jamestargetedindiv 10 months ago
OOH Yes, this is very true There are US as well as Canadian victims. The government are beasts! What I have been finding out would make a grown man fall to his knees and cry :..( The grown victims were children being abused.. check out China Lake ,Ca. MK-ultra child torture. You will be surprised what you will find in your search. This is not a hidden project. but it is the American people who were hidden..
bssmart1118 1 year ago
danger0usknowledge 1 year ago
"much like pairing a sadistic loony with a masochistic loony"
That's the most accurate description of these deluded whackjobs I've seen.
FarmGirlJB 1 year ago
@FarmGirlJB This girl deluded??
I think you are trying hard to
think nice deluded things about our
CIA psychiatric wonderboys.
FarmGirl is a convenient title...
for something...
danger0usknowledge 1 year ago
It's funny that you say that underwood4321, when the goverment admitted to preforming these experiments and appologized for it in 1995. These crimes that they committed where extremly immoral and it's a shame that you refuse to believe what the goverment really does behind closed doors.
punkid138 1 year ago
@punkid138 then when youre done watch the" conspiracy of silence" by the BBC- before you deny this was a real case reported by tom brokaw known as the "cia white house callboy scandal(here on youtube actual newscast) the franklin scandal was a child sex ring that provided children to senators congressman business man etc- the childrens case was handled by two state senators from nebraska who recieved death threats from their own party one is John decamp- state senator vietnam warhero and lawyer)
salvadory 1 year ago
@salvadory this comment was meant for underwood4321 sorry- anyways if you havent seen it watch it
salvadory 1 year ago
Aside from the admittedly high humor value of listening to these whackjobs,babble on and on, one has to wonder what kind of idiot would actually believe the fantasies of these poor, delusional fools.
They just feed off each other, probably -- a symbiotic relationship much like pairing a sadistic loony with a masochistic loony.
I think I'll use this video in my Abnormal Psych class.
Underwood4321 1 year ago
@Underwood4321 use your own delussional denial in yr psych class, u may actually learn something...!
SovereignBeing 1 year ago
@Underwood4321 thats odd because they said the same thing about the guatemalan prisoners who claimed the CIA gave them deadly stds like syphhlis and gonorrhea in the 40s and 50s- after pressure the us govt and president obama publically apoligized and made public the records of these CIA experiments(some died others lived in pain as you can imagine) feel free to google this it was on cnn msnbc and in every paper worldwide- Google "u.s apoligizes to guatemala for experiments" delusional huh?
salvadory 1 year ago
@Underwood4321 just wanted to add im not a holocaust denier or beleive 9--11 was an inside job etc(most conspiracies are crap but ones involving the CIA and the franklin case are well documented) but most of these CIA claims have come out to be true- theres a case where soldiers where given lsd without knowing they sued and won a case against the us govt- the french sued the us govt for allegedly spraying a french town with lsd-(no verdict) i guess the french govt must be all delusional
salvadory 1 year ago
these are the real testimonies of MKULTRA and are the real evidence of what is going on. Cathy O'Brien and Arizona Wilder are most likely CIA agents spreading disinformation and bringing ridicule to this most disturbing activity.
Excellent series of videos on this subject Marsboy
Thank you and good luck with your channel
TyroneSandalphon 1 year ago
@TyroneSandalphon why do you say cathy and arizona are disinformation agents?
veroinuyasha 1 year ago
love you Marsboy, hope you are well,
hurchel 1 year ago
Clea Duvall clone
JamesBlaec 1 year ago
can someone tell me how these kids got taken from the parents?? I dont get it.
Hbrickhouse 1 year ago
@Hbrickhouse their parents are most likely in on it
Smiilez03 1 year ago
The nightmare does continue.
danger0usknowledge 1 year ago
Soul Rape!
brian1morin 1 year ago
Thx for the upload-sadly few vids remain and many files have been destroyed...
Giverney13 1 year ago
there you go,an example of a rebellious soul,who could not be controlled.
starclad 1 year ago
Who says this isnt still going on with advanced technologies under a different name?
ravath 1 year ago
I'm sorry but this person is crazy......
PostHuman2113 2 years ago
its in no way funny, and its not bs for the most part. its what the satanic cia nazis are all about...the many methods of mind manipulation.
DoctorSess 2 years ago
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if she has photographic memory, why does she need to read her testimony
urvil 2 years ago
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lol. bullshit.
urvil 2 years ago
@urvil prove it
rast123456789 1 year ago
multiply personality? you could argue that she IS incapable of lying. So she must be telling what she believes or is true.
DewkChronic 2 years ago
"I believe it is by the grace of God that I am still alive"
Praise God, it is.
Please people, pass this video round, let this one go viral.
realzoomy 2 years ago 5
Thank you so much for speaking up.
realzoomy 2 years ago 3
What a brave soul.
I do not feel the experiment ended then as I know in Ireland in 1995 children were to be removed from their parents for being too intelligent and shock to be used.
We never got an answer from the Minister for children etc.
LadyJustice666 2 years ago 4
There is nothing to be skeptical about when it comes to MKULTRA. The government has officially apologized for the project.
doodooworld 2 years ago
Why can't these SOB's leave the kids alone, These people that do this to children should have the same thing done to them. See how they like it.
luwdmke 2 years ago 3
Excellent video.I have an open mind. I believe the testimonies of these survivors. I also believe there is population control going on.Whatever it takes to control the masses.Unfortunately when you mention this to some people they think your crazy.Why is it so hard to believe devious experiments go on through our government than believing the victims of the experiments? Why do we put so much trust in the government to allow us to think they couldn't be capable of these horrendous acts?
imtweetydiva29 2 years ago 7
Unfortunately there`s too many narrow minded/ skeptical people out there who`s brains can`t believe this true information. These narrow minds still believe that 19 arabs did 9/11. They just find it very hard to believe that the American government would lie, cheat or steal from them. But the reality is that the American government CONSTANTLY lies and cheats. All these CIA, Mossad, FBI.. etc.. are the biggest crooks and liars on this earth & they`ll stop at nothing to make sure they keep control.
ManFromMelbourne 2 years ago 41
@ManFromMelbourne 911?? As soon as
you bring 911 into it you discredit your case.
That is always the problem with bringing
this stuff to a wider audience. Someone
always manages to bring in UFO's, 911,
chemtrails & the fringe stuff which makes
ppl do a LOL. Maybe that's the point.
danger0usknowledge 1 year ago
@ManFromMelbourne that is so true, they blaming muslims for the 911 and im muslim so i was pissed, the goc is also prgramming little kids so when they grow up they become famous singers, rihanna started singing when she was young, now look at her....
idolsinger1o1 1 year ago
@ManFromMelbourne lol 19 arabs??? Is that like the game UNO??? Heck ya the govt had there hand in 911.. It's been a while since the todo..so paperworks start missing, and the grip is loosening up, people get older develop a conscience, blow the whistle on stuff.. and what I cant understand is why the govt let bin laden and his fmy get in a plane and allowed them to fly home seconds after the bombing.. all flights were suspended at that time., but away he went flying back to the middle east
bssmart1118 1 year ago
@ManFromMelbourne and bend over for their satanic freak occult orsini masters
PixelPwner 11 months ago
The CIA, Secret Service, NSA And DHS In Particular Have Nothing To Do With Protecting The American People & Instead Everything To Do With Destroying Us & Our Freedom. The CIA in particular should be destroyed! Power tends to corrupt, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Jjjs14 2 years ago 4
We need to get the word out about this kind of thing. Nevermind the conspiracy theories--just look at some of the terrible things our government admits to doing to people.
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Tarchomraicer 3 years ago
If other countrys do this to us Its not right to spy on them Oh america the rich its perfect get a life people If it wasnt for these tests other countrys would run us over their doing it and much more Good ole boys in NAM got their minds blown by there torture! We were unaware of these techinques Theres no crime in other countrys We have to be educated on this. Any doctor knows you can never know what the mind thinks didnt break her down much look she american shes going for the money!
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9/11 was an inside job
FalseFlagAmerican 4 years ago 2
..and the people responsible for this have not been prosecuted - WHY?!?!?!
What the fuck is wrong with this country that we would allow shit like this to go on without consequence?
djjimi 4 years ago 2
We don't have the money or power they have, plus they do everything covertly and deny, deny, deny. I wonder if this has been done to the pilots of the military planes who keep spraying us with molds, bacterias, viruses, chaff, barium, and aluminum oxide. These are called chemtrails (in case you never look at the sky).
jbreezes 4 years ago 3
They won't investigate themselves, so you'll be basically barking up the wrong tree.
Elmeromero1 3 years ago 3
wow, the asian jury member (?) is actually falling asleep during the middle of the testimony! that's a small example of why this goes unnoticed.
trioptic 4 years ago 2
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xtdrift 4 years ago
stupid goddamn americans using nazis to terrorize their own country's childeren, men and women.... someone should just break down their military government...
hop1pop 4 years ago 5
The people who carry out this twisted shit need to be held accountable for their crimes.
Our country is being run by criminals.
freebird100 4 years ago 26
@freebird100 oh they will...and have already received their reward....there is definately a special place for them with the dark ones....
rolling422 4 months ago
it's so easy to doubt, even easier to laugh and call someone a "psycho," it does take a little effort though, to do a little research. MKULTRA is a well documented historical episode which, I'm sorry to say, is only the begining.
wesmantodd1974 4 years ago 3
The fat guy looks like he knows about it...
L2design 4 years ago
Thank you for posting. All the witnesses are courageous to speak up and tell the truth.
VOTE RON PAUL 2008!!!
L2design 4 years ago 2
But, hey.. what does a congressional hearing prove, anyway?
You're probably better off basing your illinformed opinions based on a six and a half minute YouTube clip. Much love, you poor sad children.
LiquidEden 4 years ago
Like "wesmantodd" say's "it's so easy to doubt, even easier to laugh and call someone a "psycho," it does take a little effort though, to do a little research. MKULTRA is a well documented historical episode which, I'm sorry to say, is only the begining." do some research knuckle head
XYZPINNER 4 years ago 3
"The Agency itself acknowledged that these tests made little scientific sense. The agents doing the monitoring were not qualified scientific observers."
Ted Kennedy commenting on the commission's findings on the Senate floor in 1977.
LiquidEden 4 years ago
"The Deputy Director of the CIA revealed that over thirty universities and institutions were involved in an 'extensive testing and experimentation' program which included covert drug tests on unwitting citizens 'at all social levels, high and low, native Americans and foreign.' Several of these tests involved the administration of LSD to 'unwitting subjects in social situations.' At least one death, that of Dr. Olson, resulted from these activities."
LiquidEden 4 years ago
Lizard-people? Space aliens? Talking to animals? The clip makes no mention of such nonsense. It sounds more like you're the one who needs medications adjusted, because you're clearly hallucinating.
This is testimony before congress during the 'Rockefeller Comission' during the summer of 1975 and is all a matter of public record.
Your ignorance truely must be bliss.
LiquidEden 4 years ago
The government has more refined techniques today and are using them on a lot of people, many of whom are totally unaware that this is happening to them.
dimajazz 4 years ago 2
"The government has more refined techniques today and are using them on a lot of people..."
For which you have not one bit of evidence -- but if it fits into your delusional frame of mind, go ahead and enjoy it. Don't let anything annoying like truth, or common sense, get in the way of your happiness.
blueshark69 4 years ago
It's been happening to me since 1986 and many others. We are trying to Congress to appeal Cointelpro & we are trying to get this in the open via many avenues.
dimajazz 4 years ago
Like your buddies who get radio messages from the Martians through the fillings in their teeth --- maybe you should try a higher dose of Lithium.
Or whatever they're giving paranoid schizophrenics these days.
HaywuudJablomie 4 years ago
It's time to get your medication adjusted, just like the demented broad on this video.
We have a homeless guy nearby who talks to the animals and used to fly a spaceship, too. Maybe he could go to your meetings?
MsgtSpook 4 years ago
never heard of MK ULTRA jack a's's?
tariqziyad 4 years ago
"never heard of MK ULTRA jack a's's?""
Yeah, but unlike you most of us know the actual history of it, and don't think it's still around, run by space-alien technology from Alex Jones' lizard-people.
ChopperSix 4 years ago
all i have to say is that "if there is a will there is a way" and to suggest that mind control is a complete farce seems to me more ignorant than considering these things to be possible. in fact from what ive gathered in my independent study of psychology mind control of this nature seems quite probable. Then again i may be a "gullible and simple-minded lunatic" u decide.
peace be with u.
paul0lostagain 4 years ago
"more ignorant than considering these things to be possible"
Even though you have not one iota of evidence, you'll believe it just because some whacked-out nut-ward escapee says it's so? Now, THAT's ignorant.
"my independent study of psychology" -- read an article in Discover, have you?
It's a farce, but it gives the feeble-minded an excuse for their babbling lack of control.
FarmGirlJB 4 years ago
In other words, even though you haven't a clue how this might be done, and no evidence it was EVER done, since you think it might be possible .... we should believe it.
It doesn't work that way, except for little children and fairy tales.
HaywuudJablomie 4 years ago
damn that girl is hardcore. a 4 year old assissin? thats crazy that really messed up her life and changed her.
shuu7777 4 years ago
Yeah, well if you believe one word that any of these lonnies say, you're even more messed up than they are. At least they have an excuse, being about three beers short of a six-pack. Of course, you might be, too, but more than likely just a gullible moron.
pilot101st 4 years ago
If you have the courage to debate any of the FACTS in my movie (2.5hrs) other than the cowardice of name calling then I am waiting...
marsboy683 4 years ago
After wasting this much time watching a drooling mental patient recount her hallucinations and sexual fantasies, I damn sure wouldn't waste two and half HOURS of the same howling-at-the-moon fantasies narrated by bewildered paranoid fruit-loops.
blaupunkt455 4 years ago
@pilot101st you were no there so your opinion is nothing
electronicmedium 1 year ago
Lmao at people really believing this woman.
What a crock of shit.
biller05 4 years ago
The incidence of truly paranoid people who believe every "conspiracy of the week" seems to be seriously increasing. Probably just due to the high level of hatred for the current US administration. The lefties will push any loon scheme that bashes Bush, no questions asked, and since he's a huge disappointment to conservatives, he's screwed from both ends. The commies, socialists, closed-border types, zany New World Order-Black Helicopter weenies ... a unique set of strange bedfellows.
MsgtSpook 4 years ago
I personally believe that the current administration has pushed the CT's over the edge as well. I am not a CT, but I know that this administration had at least a small role in 9/11 and it's coverups. There is too much evidence to state that something very strange was not going on behind the scenes.
biller05 4 years ago
A "small role" and you're not a ct? What role would that be? They just sorta had a role but not one that really mattered?
mermaidbabe 4 years ago
With that said, I find it funny that people cling to such "CT" or "Anti-CT" identities that they choose sides before the information is even provided. The CT's gobble up every bit of information that fits their strange delusions, while the anti-CT's refuse to even investigate the possiblity of a cover-up.
When these two polar opposites are the only voices being heard, it is impossible to come to a clear understanding on the truth, which usually lies in between CT and anti-CT.
biller05 4 years ago
Please watch the entire film (new version). Go to my channel, youtube.../marsboy683, click playlist, click Monarch, click play all videos, run time 2.5hrs. enjoy!
marsboy683 4 years ago
Didya know? Both Bush and John Kerry were in Skull and Bones together. Win win. Marvin Bush's company Securacom aka Stratasec was responsible for the security in the twins up to the day they fell. Prescott Bush helped the nazi's. Arnold Schwarznegger's dad is a nazi. Karl Rove's gramps, and didn't Jimmy Carter help a nazi? Rep and Dem are basically run by the same people. Novus Ordo Seclorum ain't on our money cause it's cute.
mermaidbabe 4 years ago
I'd like some documented facts to back up your statements, not just paranoid NWO talk passed on from word of mouth. If our government was really as smart as you claim (setting up a fail proof governmental scheme) than things like Watergate would have never happened. We would have been a dictatorship a long time ago had the American government been the evil geniuses that you claim.
biller05 4 years ago
So you think the gov is just too stupid for words? IN that case, it should still replaced. What's a fact to you? Something on paper? You could still dispute it. My gramps is a mason, and he ain't nice.
Don't swallow everything the gov tells the mainstream media to tell you.
mermaidbabe 4 years ago
You're twisting my words. I never said the government was "stupid" I simply said they weren't evil geniuses. They would have caused alot more damage by now if they were some Satanical group of people bent on suffering and world domination.
A fact to me is something that is proven via equation or sensory recording. This would most likely be documented visually (declassified reports, video tape).
biller05 4 years ago
I didn't mean to put words in your mouth. Are they not in control of OUR lives? Can they not fix inner cities and human trafficking? Of course they can. They've caused damage throughout the WORLD. I believe they are responsible for damn near everything. Watch this YT film-Freemason (illuminati)Who are they? Skull and Bones!! NWO- Long title.
mermaidbabe 4 years ago
I understand your anger at the current American administration. I feel the same sense of being let down as you do; however, I believe that America (as well as the rest of the world) has been let down by terrible leadership, negligence, and overall political failure. I don't think this is all some plan of genius proportions. Many of the people in high ranking positions aren't very smart in the first place, and that's part of the problem.
biller05 4 years ago
Think again. Think bigger. If they weren't smart they wouldn't be there. The devil is clever and charming.
mermaidbabe 4 years ago
I have watched many movies on the NWO, the illuminati, Skill & Bones, 9/11, impending martial law, ect... and I find them very interesting. With that said, the facts just don't add up, and we'd be in much worse shape had these conspiracies proven to be true.
biller05 4 years ago
They are certainly true and the reason for everything. I'm telling ya, I know that movie I suggested was long, but it's worth it.
mermaidbabe 4 years ago
To answer your question, no the government is not in control of our lives. I am free to do more here than I can in most other nations, all while enjoying the highest rate of living. The government controls some aspects of everyday life, but all governments do.
biller05 4 years ago
Yes, the gov controls EVERYTHING. I don't call our women being pressured into being and dressing like hookers, marriage decline, gay corruption parades, freedom. Just a few examples.
mermaidbabe 4 years ago
Everything?
I can go to college, get a good job, work my ass off to make a decent living for myself, start a family, and be a respectable, good person.
What more could one ask for?
biller05 4 years ago
so thats what you call being free. working for the man for the rest of your lives.then when your done throw you in a board and care home and take all the money you saved for medical bills.i feel sorry for you
whiteindian2007 4 years ago
If I don't want to work for "the man" I can always graduate college and work my ass off to start my own company and become "the man". People who claim that the government, or "the man" holds them back are really just making excuses for their own laziness.
biller05 4 years ago
It must be their own laziness that our innocent government pushes their smuggled drugs through certain communities.
Why, if we were all well off enough, who'd serve at McDonalds? Oh nermind, the gov will just get slave labor from the illegals. Being the border is still wide open and all for whatever reason.
Even the rich will tell ya you gotta be rich to get rich.
mermaidbabe 4 years ago
Drugs, alcohol, hookers, pornography & pedophilia were here long before 1776. Were the French & British pushing them then?
The illegals in my area are getting 10-12 bucks an hour on construction sites & paying no taxes. Not quite poverty in my book, especially w/free health care.
Nobody shoves vice down someone's throat. It's a stupid personal choice. Take some responsibility instead of blaming everything on someone else.
legalboxer 4 years ago
Yes, and they were just as immoral then as they are now.
You're right, illegals got it better than USA citizens because the gov is the one who's actually hiring them. They don't want American workers anymore.
I blame this society for allowing immorality to be it's base. Everybody else has to live here too including the children. I'm sick of symptoms being medicated instead of the problems being fixed because if you fix the problems then the corporations go kaput.
mermaidbabe 4 years ago
And they control it. Not everybody can do that.
mermaidbabe 4 years ago
"I don't call our women being pressured into being and dressing like hookers, marriage decline, gay corruption parades, freedom"
I do. You'd prefer some sort of freedom where the govt STOPPED things you don't like? Try Iran.
You seem to have slipped so deep into paranoia that you don't even make sense. Next step: fantasizing that the CIA has been experimenting on you for years and years ....
blueshark69 4 years ago
They've got your mind so twisted you think immorality should be a choice.
mermaidbabe 4 years ago
Immorality should be, and is a choice. In reality, immorality is what you make it to be.
This is what makes America great. We have the ability to decide what is "moral" and "immoral" for the most part.
I'm not sure where you were going with your comment. If immorality shouldn't be a choice, as you insisted, our country would be a dictatorship.
biller05 4 years ago
No, immorality is not what you make it to be. You cannot take something plainly evil immoral and turn it into something good, say pedophilia.
There is a difference between sinning and being corrupt.
And if America has chosen that immorality is now moral, then it's not great. It's sick.
mermaidbabe 4 years ago
"Are they not in control of OUR lives? Can they not fix inner cities?"
You can only believe this codswallop if you believe the govt has satanic, magical powers -- a concept completely unbelievable to anyone who has ever worked in Washington. Not just unbelievable -- laughable.
Those who swallow this drivel are so unable to cope with reality that they've invented a scapegoat upon which to blame the world's -- and their own -- imperfections.
The rest of us just deal with it and move on.
blueshark69 4 years ago
Certainly honey. The government has no secrets and doesn't keep us in the dark about anything!!
Bohemian Grove DOESN'T exist, oh okay.
mermaidbabe 4 years ago
Agreed.
We may agree on these points for different reasons, but it's all the same in this debate.
I personally choose to deny these points for my personaly belief in the fact that the government isn't smart enough to do something like this.
biller05 4 years ago
SO choose to remain in your ignorance? That's just silly.
mermaidbabe 4 years ago
"the government isn't smart enough to do something like this."
Exactly. Slick Willie couldn't keep a blowjob in a closet secret, with no witnesses; what are the odds of keeping a secret with many thousands in on the plot & coverup? Can you imagine the millions they'd get for book & movie rights by blowing the whistle?
Absurd.
legalboxer 4 years ago
To think they can't keep things from you is gullable and simple minded.
mermaidbabe 4 years ago
No, gullible and simple-minded is thinking that the government gives a damn about lunatics like this one, or Cathy O'Brien (another even worse). Anyone who thinks this is how you recruit assassins, or that the government would go to this much trouble over it, has a serious screw loose.
A government evil enough to do this, and with this much money invested in a project, wouldn't let renegades like these wander around loose. They'd just kill them, and nobody would even notice.
coon460305 4 years ago
Really. So how do you brainwash people into doing what you want them to do? Just...flash a few cards?
They could kill them, or they could just let them tell their stories because there's people like you, and they can't do anything about it anyway. Except tell their stories.
mermaidbabe 4 years ago
It's absurd that you expect me to believe that your grandfather is a mason. According to your own perspective, masons/skull and bones/government are all evil and controlling. You would not be allowed to go around telling people who is part of this evil elite group and who isn't.
You openly contradicted yourself.
biller05 4 years ago
My gramps is a mason. Masons are charitable out in the open so that they seem like good people. Just like you, I can go around screaming that masons are bad, but the masons will step up and make me out to be crazy. Some won't even admit they're masons. It's all about keeping the secrets. My gramps is a bully. I didn't contradict myself. He's 33rd degree. 40 or 50 some odd years of freemasonry.
mermaidbabe 4 years ago
If what you say is true, can you explain what his group of freemasons do? It seems to me like they're just some club that likes to think that they are superior to others, all while holding no real political (or otherwise important) power.
biller05 4 years ago
They worship satan, except you don't know what's really going on until a certain degree. It's a club that comes straight out of Babylon. They believe they are superior, and they are running our governements. Tony Blair is a mason. Even my grandmother brags about being friends with the congressman. And America wouldn't be one big masonic symbol if they had no say. Novus Ordo Seclorum isn't printed on our currency because it was a fun thing to do.
mermaidbabe 4 years ago
They just aren't that smart it seems. I guess I have always been a step ahead of my peers, and most people for that matter, in the education department. If these masons truely think that they are superior to the rest of us (which they may be to average Americans) than they are sadly mistaken.
biller05 4 years ago
Worshipping Satan and letting information like this leak into the general public isn't smart at all. I think they would be suprised to know just how many intellectual people are left in American amoung the average, moronic wave of idiots.
biller05 4 years ago
You wanted proof. You can't get any proofier than what's printed on our currency.
mermaidbabe 4 years ago
Anyone who believes this silly shit about masons worshipping satan and controlling the governments has even more screws loose than these pathetic, paranoid fruit-loops in the video.
The US was basically founded by masons, but the group is so far in decline that their average age is 70-ish, and will probably disappear in a few decades.
ChopperSix 4 years ago
that's what you'll be thinking when they round up you and your family and put you in concentration camps!!!your probably the type that believes everthing they watch on tv!!!
whiteindian2007 4 years ago
And you're obviously one who believes everything they hear at Jumping Jesus meetings, and everything they read on loony websites that prey on the illiterate and gullible.
If it's Masons rounding people up, it'll be fun to watch them doing it in wheelchairs and walkers.
blaupunkt455 4 years ago
These poor people. What is wrong with our government? The CIA is the true axis of evil!
jessiasu 4 years ago
Elsewhere, if you Google around, O'Brien posts a video clip where it shows where the Evil Conspirators carved a "devil's face" into her vagina with an X-acto knife. With some imagination, you can see kind of a nose & a crooked mouth in her vaginal folds ....
Since then, I can't help snickering whenever I visit a new vagina closely, finding (so far) a bat, a cow-head and the face of Jesus -- even clearer than on those taco shells. Ruining my sex life, it is.
MsgtSpook 4 years ago
they turned me into a human peanut
toonasammich 4 years ago
There was experperiments at other psych hospitals, in other areas of N. America. very subtle. told you were very sick , radiated, never to live normally. very very hideous acts. i can not talk about this fear for my life.
cincin3 4 years ago
The wackos feed on this stuff greedily. Anyone care to bet this is some sad ex-psych ward case who thinks those doctors that listed him as paranoid schizophrenic were all CIA plotters?
Like the CIA really gives a shit about some ex-mental patient working at minimum wage somewhere, forgetting to take his Lithium.
pilot101st 4 years ago
I hope the government swipes u up off the street someday without your consent and does experiments on you. Hell, if they do, they'll probably do the world a favor.
claytonicnutz 4 years ago
Rather a hate-filled little response, isn't it? Does anyone who doesn't happen to agree with your point of view deserve to be tortured as these people claim?
Sort of validates your screen name.
FarmGirlJB 4 years ago
So you had bad experiences while you were in a number of mental hospitals? But you can't talk about it? haven't you already let the cat out of the bag, and won't they be looking for you already?
have you checked your closets lately?
MsgtSpook 4 years ago
ya, read how you spooks, (if you really r a spook) can cause heart attacks with no evidence and kill invisibly,, ha youd never tell the public, (no would ya, yours truly....catch me if ya can)
cincin3 4 years ago
Like the ancient info in this film, "untraceable heart attacks" are old hat, but now they commonly test for succinylcholine chloride at autopsy. mostly doctors used it anyhow. Killing with no risk or suspicion has never been any real trick for anyone with half a brain & some creativity. God only knows how many are gotten away with every year.
It's Darwin at work - the smart killing the dumb. It's almost ... humanitarian.
MsgtSpook 4 years ago
Darwins theory the strong adapt we adapt to our envir, I guess if clim changes well adapt to that too.. sorry about the tangie...
cincin3 4 years ago
In fact, I HAVE looked it up. My real point was supposed to be an inherent one, in that they would have probably taped this kind of stuff.
This would also be to clearly show what this girl is talking about... because I have a feeling her memories are very laden with fear, and could possibly distory the manner in which the processes took place.
Either way, I just want to see it taking place with my own eyes. Is that such a crime?
tjbruin 4 years ago
It's not a conspiracy TJ it's what the CIA did.
vettesky 4 years ago
Are there any videos of these things actually happening to people? I'm anti-conspiracy theory, but this stuff sounds very "UFO" to me.
tjbruin 4 years ago
you're an idiot
gtg309v 4 years ago
This isn't UFO stuff. Project MK ULTRA is a very real and recently declassified CIA mind control experiment conducted by the US government. You need to do some research before you conform to what the rest of your sheeply friends tell you and not believe all this conspiracy theory type stuff. MK ULTRA, Project Paperclip, Operation GLADIO, ABLE DANGER, look this stuff up and educate yourself.
claytonicnutz 4 years ago
"UFO" is a good analogy, since most of these crank conspiracy nuts are just as gullible as UFO freaks, and the crap they feed on is just as flaky. This "recently declassified" stuff was in the NY Times 30-40 years ago, but keeps getting regurgitated.
It was a waste of money, didn't work worth a damn, and only Jim Marrs-type nutjobs swallow this swill. But there are a number of them ... all very busy on YouTube.
pilot101st 4 years ago
Since UFO is a good analogy according to this post. And later in your post you admit that it did happen, what is it? Fact or fiction? Do you even know? Your own statements contradict themselves. You don't even know what's going on. WTC 7, ABLE DANGER, PROJECT PAPERCLIP, all this shit is real, but it's you that cannot grasp what is happening around you. I'm not a nut job, you're just an idiot.
claytonicnutz 4 years ago
There is nothing alien about UFO sightings...just something someone cannot explain. The analogy, however, was to the total gullibility of the "alien invasion" freaks and the conspiracy zombies that leap to the most bizarre conclusions to justify their preconceived delusions. Dragging up 50-year-old declassified crap, and tacking bullshit onto it, doesn't constitute actual research -- just paranoia. Perhaps it helps drown out the laughter of all the normal people.
pilot101st 4 years ago
It gives the norms POWER & CONTROL.. tis all..and theyre making more of a mess of the war... they need the gas for their car cars, theyre embarassed to take public transit. their friends might laugh at them. boo hoo.
cincin3 4 years ago
I couldn't have said it better myself.
biller05 4 years ago
America today much reminds me of Rome during the B.C.
InformantX 4 years ago