HOW CAN PEPOLE DO THIS TO SOMEONE THAT SICK IN NEED OF HELP AND TO THROW DOLLER BILLS AT HIM AND BASH HIM AND SAY HES A FAKE AND COULD MAKE MORE MONEY ELESWERE WTF KINDA COUNTRY DO WE LIVE IN TODAY ITS FULL OF HATE GREED & LIES WHAT EVER HAPPEN TO THE DAYS OF BEING A STORNG COUNTRY RESPECTFUL TO ONE ANOTHER AND GIVEING A HELPING HAND TO HELP PULL UP THE FALLING I BELIEVE IN GOD AND I KNOW HOW TO RESPECT PEPOLE I DONT NEED A GROUP OF CRAZY NUTS TO TELL ME HOW TO BELIEVE OR TELL ME HOW TO ACT
@ironkatia I had to move back in with my parents and have about 3.00 in change in my pocket so stfu. You have no idea what kind of people the tea partiers are. Don't be so narrow minded and think for yourself instead of being spoonfed by the MSM.
Great Glenn Beck Show today. I'd like to see anyone actually rebut any of the info. on the show. Dems have controlled in the failing cities for ions, look at the Unions and the pyramid/ponzie schemes going on; getting rid of cops instead of opera houses, etc. Take his info. then google it ... Weather Underground is part of current system; We really do need to get Dems out of office....
@WingThaiJ If our are an conservative why not read some real stuff like Edmund Burke or some other in that tradition with his head screwed on?And you don´t like the "Elite" you wrote .But you admire TV Superstars like Beck and Wealthy Billionaire Stockbrokers on from Wall Street William Weidner,and othe Bailed Out Persons and talk about "Common Sence"!No it don´t go together WingThaiJ!
@zsylvana Unlike perhaps you I admire success. William Weidner came from a POOR family! He worked his way up the ladder through HARD WORK. When you talk about Beck, I could care less about him, I care about the information & it is researchable. I'm agnostic & can get around HIS personal religious views. People like Weidner could not reach the plateaus they've reached w/out a country that avails such Opportunity; socialism can steal inspiration, inventiveness & motivation.
..the planned economy or anything less than capitalism is not conducive to the scientific and medical discoveries achieved and reward for personal perseverance & hard work is the driving force behind invention which it should be.
It's so amazing that not 1 of Becks detractors can point to his info & say it's wrong, they only complain about him as they don't have any arguments against the content. This video is a clear examples. Beck is only saying that Jesus, if U choose to believe he was more than a man or not, did not believe in pick pocketing people and giving to others. It is the persons responsibility to donate or give, but at his/her own discretion, not the Governments who gives cheks to dead people & illegals.
As far as the congressman being called the N word; this guy KNOWS that was a lie, none of the videos where audio can be clearly heard demonstrates this, w/all the cell phones w/cam corders on them, not one person can collect the $100K offered to prove this actually happened or that racism exists in the T Party.
BECK HEADS? ROFL! I, as anyone, has ability to research his or anyone's info.. I don't trust what he says, I look it up. Abandon the homeless, feed the hungry, heel the sick?No, they are to help all of them, the question his how. This Ass thinks Jesus was some sort of Pick Pocket, justifying outright theft & allowing the Gov which notoriously wastes $ decide what to do w/the $. No, Beck advocates INDIVIDUALS choose who do donate to & how. Morons think they know better than you or I!
I've seen so many people collect phony disability claims, phony law suits, drug addicts collecting disability only to make new drug dealer contacts at rehab facilities instead of being rehabbed; working under the table, etc..The % is much higher than reported, because all of these people weren't caught & not part of national statistics & this goes on in every state in U.S.This is a form of socialism; it demotivates people, takes away inventiveness & fosters dependence, keeps votes to keep power
Fascism is right-wing, fiercely nationalist, subjectivist in philosophy, and totalitarian in practice. It is an extreme reactionary form of capitalist government. Fascism began in Italy, Germany , Spain and various other nations, starting generally in the time between the first and second world war. The origin of the term comes from the Italian word fascismo, derived from the Latin fasces (a bundle of elm or birch rods containing an ax: emblem of the Italian Fascist movement in 1919.)
The social composition of Fascist movements have historically been small capitalists, low-level bureaucrats of all stripes, with great success in rural areas, especially among farmers, peasants, and in the city, slum workers. Meanwhile, fascist leadership invariably comes to power through the sponsorship and funding of massive capitalists, without needing a revolution. These capitalists along with the top-tier leaders they create become fascism's ruling aristocracy.
@zsylvana It is not up to others to determine the potential of someone else. This is what makes America Great, it's freedom, but that doesn't mean freedom w/out reasonable regulation. A persons motivation & drive comes from w/in & in America people have the ability to achieve & invent like no where else in the world. Gov should not steal from 1 to give to others who don't have the drive & want to live off the backs of the efforts of others. What's the point...
@zsylvana what's the point in studying to take a test in the class if the teacher is going to redistribute the grades anyway? This is no different than socialism. Socialism is a sense of entitlement for doing little. People should be rewarded for what their hard work & decide who to give to as opposed to the Gov who is still sending checks to dead people & illegal aliens. A cartoon aptly depicts Ab Lincoln telling slave he is free while Obama is telling every1 "You Are Mine" All dictatorships
@WingThaiJ So what you mean if i understand your right is that :-the basis of Obama thinking, however, it does not reach? When we think of the truth of being, metaphysics is overcome and we can no longer accept the claim of metaphysics that it takes care of the fundamental involvement in "Being" and that it decisively determines all relations to beings as such?.And as long as man remains the animal rationale he is also the animal metaphysicum?And that is what Obama is intended to do?
@zsylvana sorry, U R apparently try'g to post a thought in a box that limits U to 500 characters, so what U R saying is just not getting through to me on this 1. I'm saying obama surrounded himself w/socialistic types, he apparently believes in stealing from hard workers & giving to those who did not make same choices in life. He trusts Gov to better decide what 2 do w/other people's $ instead of allowing the successful person express his own gratitude by donating $ the way he sees fit instead.
@WingThaiJ Obamo or not it´s the question concerning existence, however, is always subservient to that question which is nothing less than tho only question of thought. This question, yet to be unfolded, concerns the truth of being as the concealed ground of all. For this reason the treatise which sought to point the way back into the ground of metaphysics did not bear the title "Existence and Time," nor "Consciousness and Time," but Being and Time.Obama could not change and either Mc Bain!
@zsylvana Again, you are speaking in etherial terms 'existence', 'being' , 'metaphysics', if I am to take you seriously, then you seem to be talking about a person destined to be a certain way w/out choice, Obama is who is is, McCaine is who he is, etc... Bottom Line: I live in America, America is Capitalistic, it's what brought inventiveness & industry. People who don't like it should move to a socialistic country & leave America stay as America.
@zsylvana ...started via socialism and yes, Adolf Hitler was a socialist and I'll be damned if anyone else is going to steal from me when I put in nearly 13+++ hours per day building my own business. If I'm held down via being overtaxed & the sort, how can I get to the point where I can afford to give to whom I choose? As an author wrote, the dream of socialism is a beautiful 1, for every1 to be equal to one another, same stature & $, what of individualism & individual choices & commerce?
Where's the motivation to invent & develop so much of what was developed in America over the yrs? It seems that most who R in to socialism R not as interested in allow others realize their full potential; not interested in working hard & would rather find ways 2 steal hard earned income from others & hand them out to many who sit on their ass all day. I like having chance for American dream; this is what America provides. If U don't like the American Dream, move to a socialistic country.
@WingThaiJ Thanks!I should do read Leöf and Di Maggio!But to say about your statement about Obama education don´t you think its answers to the question concerning beings as such, and a prior conception of Being? It speaks of Being !Rember that it does not induce Being itself to speak, and not recall Being in its truth! nor does it recall truth as unconcealedness,or does it recall the nature of unconcealedness?Nature of truth always appears only form of the truth of knowledge and the truth!
@zsylvana look I'm sorry, I see you are a Chomsky fan and I'm not fan of Chomsky and there's plenty of material out there to debunk chomskyism and I'm not going to get into a debate with you about him. Smooth talking people who sound convincing w/little relation to reality. You are speaking in etherial terms in a you tube box; it doesn't work, I have no way of knowing what you are saying & perhaps u r just having fun w/your verbiage. So be it!
@WingThaiJ No i voted for Chompky neiher on Mc Bain that has fallen into the oblivion of being which has, at the same time, become and remained the fateful demand on thought in and his politic could hardly have given a clearer demonstration of the power of this oblivion of Being than it has furnished us by the somnambulistic assurance with which it has passed by the real and only question of at stake here is,
and Mc Bains series of misunderstandings of a book but our abandonment being.
I did not vote for Chompky, neither on Mc Bain, which fell into an oblivion of an undetermined insurmountable ecclesiastical component of reform that has yet to yield one part-rage of patronage to the all powerful all encompassing policies of movements of our forefathers for whom this society was based & from whom we decided to build a country, not evangelical, not partisan, not fundamental, rather, free to form a transformative figure onto the day our country marches into it's new era.
@zsylvana nothing about Obamas education, prior conception of being is an apogee thought from 19th century if you look up your Moriarty (sp?) tribulations it will clearly detail the enumeration of the classes from not only the 19th century, but so too the 20th century; from that point onward, the nature of the truth can be explicitly dissected to reveal the original meaning of socialistic growth versus a capitalistic tendency and compares that to the potential growth of invention and science.
@WingThaiJ No your wrong on that!And this,also says the Cummunists is because "we base our doctrine upon pure subjectivity" upon the i think: which is the moment in which solitary man attains to himself; a position from which it is impossible to regain solidarity with other men who exist outside of the self.The ego cannot reach them through the cogito.No Mc Bain was wrong!!A Statist!a position from which it is impossible to regain solidarity with other men who exist outside of the self!
@zsylvana In the end, America has always worked best as a Capitalist nation, great strides have been achieved and if anyone doesn't think it's fair to work hard to earn one's own success, they really need to be the one's to move to another country. Greece is no shining example of entitlement programs, they're pissed for having to retire in their 50's, a few more years than they are use to. Entitlements foster dependence and laziness and this is certainly not something we need in America
@zsylvana every dictator in history came about via Socialism; making people dependent thereby ensuring power. Obama will make illegal immigrants legal if he can because he knows he'll get their vote and therefore the power. He wants to tell Americans what has to happen w/their hard earned $ & w/enough dependent people he'll have the votes to do this = Dictatorship! Sorry, America isn't about a Free Ride; you have to work for a living.
@WingThaiJ No not all!Remember WongTy that attempt to inquire back into what conceals itself here seeks, from the point of view of dictature,and the fundament of it allways "Sontology". Therefore this attempt is called Fundamentalontologie (or fundamental ontology conservatism)! Yet this title, like any title, is soon seen to be inappropriate. From the point of view , to be sure, it says something that is correct; but precisely for that reason it is not in case of Obama!He got Elected!!
@zsylvana look you are getting into Nicolai Hartmann versus Heidegger's philosophical stuff; as far as I'm concerned phrenology is a pseudoscience. As far as I'm concerned, Americans CAN and NEED TO vote Obama out and that will be the next effect of being and metaphysical outcome.
@WingThaiJ No Hatman was wrong!He was out outranged as Economist by great Nikolas Kaldor in his famous statement: "Market equilibrium requires that Y(t) = C(t) + A(t), where consumption C(t) = cY(t) = (1-s)Y(t) and investment A(t) is as derived before so that:Y(t) = A(t)/s = (1/sq )[K(t+q ) - K(t)] and in the linear D(t), the decision to invest can be rewritten as: D(t) = (a /q )[K(t+q ) - K(t)] - d K(t)
And:D(t) = (a /q )K(t+q ) - [d + a /q ]K(t)and before, that D(t) = I(t+q ) = dK(t+q )/dt.
Keynes, John Maynard (1883-1946)Was a member of Liberal Party of England and
belived in Capitalism economic system
His most important work, The General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money (1935-36), advocated a remedy for economic recession.Read that instead if you manage to go throw it.
@WingThaiJ Thank you for reading advise,but i allready read J.M Keynes,Milton Friedman,Paul Samuelson and whole the bunch of esteemed of schoolars from Chicago Uni.to MIT and Harvard,although i teach about their work at Universities now and then.Peter G. Klein is not what i can see among the at least 2000 most respected economists so i missed him.Please give me a short review of this well hidden genius main thesis.
The point is KISS:Keep It Simple Stupid"U don't need to be a Harvard Grad 2 know Keynesian doesn't work.. I can respect one's knowledge as someone in the field, however, I have to evaluate those in the real word as opposed to the etherial. Most academicians spent their time in Universities; People like William Weidner not only taught in Univ- Bus, econo; He ran Multimill $ corps around world & knows how real life wrks & he knows Keynesian Fails & Libs have no clue how to manage other people's $
oh... and socialists should move to a socialistic country instead of trying to turn our country into something Americans don't want and should not have to put up with.
@zsylvana BTW, you could copy and paste Keynesian Economics: The Beast That Won't Die | Peter G. Klein into your YouTube search box & listen to common sense as oppose to one's perceived intellect - It's the Content, Not The economist... It's also those who live it in the Real World beyond the Black Board who see 1st hand how things work - Hence, B . Weidner..
@zsylvana copy and past search terms in youtube box and watch. Common Sense need not exist in the container of the head of an elite economist... I'd like to know how many elite economists actually personally experiences how things work in the real world first hand by running business's and/or corporations personally, establishing relationships & take into considerations that workers aren't interchangeable pieces that fit neatly into the Keynesian model, they are all individuals w/diff training.
Fascism has many different forms: the Italian fascism of Mussolini was often against Hitler’s Fascism, calling it “one hundred percent racism: Against everything and everyone: Yesterday against Christian civilization, today against Latin civilization, tomorrow, who knows, against the civilization of the whole world.” The birth of fascism in Germany was aided by Western governments, who for two decades viewed it as the ideology that would successfully crush the Soviet Union
"Here the Jew's procedure is as follows ... With infinite shrewdness he fans the need for social justice, somehow slumbering in every Aryan man, into hatred against those who have been better favored by fortune, and thus gives the struggle for the elimination of social evils a very definite philosophical stamp. He establishes the Marxist doctrine.” - Adolf Hitler. Mein Kampf. vol1. ch 11.
Social Justice = Marxism? Where do we keep hearing that? Oh yes. hahaha
HEY THIS IS SO TRUE: Obama loves Jobs, but they HATE Job Creators, so the Jobs don't come! I HAVE A BUSINESS, I WILL NOT HIRE ANYONE UNTIL I HAVE A PRESIDENT THAT INSTILLS ECONOMIC CONFIDENCE! OBAMA ADMIN IS A WASTE AND ALL OF YOU BLIND MINDLESS OBAMA CULT FOLLOWERS WON'T BE HAPPY UNTIL YOU DRIVE OUR COUNTRY INTO THE GROUND AND LET CHINA TAKE OVER!
Not only are you lying about having a business, you are obviously a menial laborer, but even if you did, than you are nothing more than an obstructionist. And by the way it is because of the foolish 'free-market' junk that all the jobs move out of the country. A 'free-market' means the lowest common denominator for workers.
The beginning of problems of this country can be traced directly back to Reagan, since him and his 'free-market' supply side junk the rich have gotten richer and the rest of the people the shaft. And again, no amount of stupid and childish use of capital letter will change the truth
1:20 - 1:27 ... NOT THROUGH GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED REDISTRIBUTION!!!!! YES! Because it's NOT charity or christian to take away from others to give to another! We should GIVE, not through compulsory means, but love unfeigned for God and our brothers and sisters! (2 Corinthians 6:1-10)
@BlackJacx12:23 it's interesting that you can hear the man so clearly, and yet other people on camera aren't heard unless that man is facing them... almost like he was wearing a mic. I also notice a distinct lack of anyone except for that man "throwing dollar bills".
@BlackJacx12:43 if they have audio or video I'm sure Brietbart is offering $100,000 for his web news site. Those fools were afraid the tea partys were violent, so instead of going in through the secure entrance, they tried to bait them to attack, walking through the crowd lauding their victory and waving their gavel. If someone did curse at them, or call them a name as they assert it was probably going both ways... But given who said it happened, probably not.
I'd like to take that dollar and shove it down that moron bastard's throat. I want all the money back from him that we spent to provide that son of a bitch free roads and free police and fire protection. What an F-tard. God I hate ditto-heads.
You missed his point. When Glenn Beck said to get away from Social Justice, he was not talking about us VOLUNTARILY helping those in need. It's when the government comes in and TAKES YOUR MONEY AGAINST YOUR WILL to give it to the poor. Jesus never said give to Ceaser and let Ceaser help the poor. He commanded us to help directly. The Bible also says if a man won't work, let him not eat. Government gives to the lazy. Social Justice as a political system is BAD.
I am so glad someone from the Christian community is pointing out the disgraceful way Beck and his followers act and behave. There was a prophecy given by Joseph Smith, the founder of the Mormon Church, called the white horse prophecy, I think in some twisted way Beck is trying to fulfill it.Google it and you can read it for yourself. I think Beck wants us under the boot of the Mormon Church.
Very disturbing. Daily for 3 hours on radio & an hour of prime time tv Beck preaches hatred, bigotry, racism, & paranoia - none of it based on facts, all of it sick twisted lies. The American people have limited access to truth & facts to counter this destructive propaganda, since 90% of the media is owned and controlled by the same multi-national, anti-American corporations that are profiting obscenely from keeping us mis-informed and angry at each other, at immigrants, at Islam, at Obama, etc.
Im a conservative. Look, our taxes will be raised b/c our premiums will all go up. That is a fact. How do you mandate an insurance company to cover more people and lower premiums. Its like having a dinner party. Lets say there are 5 people ordering out. Well that would be about $50. If 5 more people join the party, more people means more cost. But those 5 new ones cant pay for it so now those original 5 have to pay $20 a piece. It's simple simple math. Everyone who has insurance will pay more.
If private MANAGED health care works, why do countries with socialized medicine have longer life spans, lower incidents of serious diseases, and higher infant survivability rates PER CAPITA?
You wanna know who gets in between you and your doctor? Your HMO. You have a GATEKEEPER, and if you want a second opinion, but your doctor doesn't want you to, YOU DON'T GET IT!
REMEMBER, our PRIVATE health system is PRIVATE -MANAGED- care! This is coming from a former INSURANCE AGENT!
@bigfisch42 They passed the bill and guess what? My health care premiums went down 7.5 % ! And your infantile, over-simplified metaphor is just that. Lets say 5 people are at a restaurant. But instead of paying the restaurant for food they have to pay a middle man food coverage. And he has to pay shareholders and marketing agents and lobbyists. They all make tons of money but to pay for all that it costs so much that the other 6 people outside have to starve. That's what's going on now.
Beck is the next Jim Jones. I am just waiting for him to tell his brain dead audience to kil themselves even jokingly. And then see how many of them are stupid enough to do it. They already blindly follow his hitler like tirates and believe everything else he says. Good thing his audience is not that big. The rest of us with brains of our own and can think for ourselves can see right thru beck. I would say I feel sorry for anyone that listens to beck,but honestly I really don't.
glassy eyed followers are Obama followers that will follow him anywhere just to get some freebees. Even if it ruins their own future and their country. They will trade their parents for socialist freebees
I love how Fox News and Beck tell these people that their Taxes are about to be raised. How many of these dumb shit tea baggers realize that they don't make enough money to fall into the bracket that is being taxed for this.
Don't hate them, then that makes you no better. Feel sorry for them. They are ignorant yuppie scum that needs a wake up call that the world doesn't revolve around them.
Hey Pap, the idea that the Jim Jones followers willingly drank poison is a misconception. Witnesses actually said that the majority were force-fed the poison at gunpoint and then posed for the cameras. It was a mass-murder, not a mass suicide.
True, but for Pap's point that isn't really important, the analogy still stands if we think of the Beck followers as the minority who were feeding the others poison. And that is what they are; a deluded minority that is trying to feed poison to society.
What the heck is this? This is a total distortment of Becks position. Its a classic straw-man setup. Who the heck believes this crap? Unbelievable..... this is friggin stalinist... this has to stop. Expose these frauds!
Beck has been inciting violence through fear mongering, that is not a strawman, it is a fact. He did make the ridicules statements equating social justice with totalitarianism; not recognizing that the new testament has great deal of social justice ideas in it. The real fraud is Beck who wouldn't know a real fact if it were to hit him in the head. He is a demagogue and all sane people recognize that.
@Rundstedt1 Doesn't the simple fact that they are lying about calling the congressman the N word enough to show you how much crap this video is? Since when is it christian to steal from someone else and give it to who you think should have it? Christian Dictatorships? I'm not christian, but christians should have the right to decide whom they'd like to donate to, it's not up to church leaders or politicians to steal money & decide what to do with it.
The only ones lying are those that deny that the incident happened as reported here. And I don't know why you go off on the stupid 'Christian' tangent. But it is clear that; were he to have been actually real, and not the myth that it is, the character known a Jesus would be a socialist. Remember the 'eye of a needle' thing?
@Rundstedt1 you see, you have no clue whats going on then do you? Why haven't they been able to collect the $100,000 reward if this could be proven true? Oh, you didn't know about this? I guess it's because you watch the Obama Coddling Media stations who have never been so coddling to a President in our entire history. The character Jesus would not pick pocket someone to give it to someone else. He would allow a person to choose for himself! As is life, we make CHOICES-Gov isn't Jesus!
The testimony of the victims; who are eminent members of congress, and all the racist and bigoted actions of the teabaggers that WERE recorded are proof enough. If a tree falls in a forest it still makes a noise, and when teabaggers are racist, they are racist even if it didn't happen to be recorded.
How about this, why don't YOU show proof that it didn't happen. Come on, there has to be tape of the incident that shows it didn't happen, right? What a laugh, just because it didn't happen on video doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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Bla Bla Bla... Another Becktard spews some shit....
We all, as a society, have responsibilities to one another and progressive taxes are not 'theft' but part of the social contract...what IS theft is how those wealthy people gained their wealth in the first place. And since the Right-wing 'free-market' or 'trickle-down' junk, the same junk pushed by the deluded 'tea partiers', has been in prominence, we have seen the rich get richer and the rest get less of the pie.
If you don't want to contribute to the society than go off and be a hermit, don't take or use any of the things that the society has built, stay off our roads, stay out of our schools and hospitals... you want a 'free-market' and your selfish society, go move to Somalia where there is no nasty gov't to interfere with your egotistical blindness. There's the 'Free-market' at work. You can start your own business without a Gov't to interfere with you.
@Rundstedt1 people like you want our country to be a Somalia! Where the hell is your head? Do you realize that the whole Auto Fiasco was shown to have hurt auto worker jobs, not help? Go look up the inspector generals report non-conservative. Obama's admin has NO CLUE what they are doing, they are trying to run things they know nothing about, it's like the 3 stooges take over the US Gov! U R Blind to the fact that there are BETTER ways to help others that are being done & can be enhanced
@Rundstedt1 A free Market is FAR From selfish; it has to do with choosing what to do with your own money. The government can't decide what to do with it it's not their money. You and yours should move to Somalia instead of trying to turn America into Somalia. Idiots have no clue we don't have the money to sustain all of these program? Do you really need a lesson on this? You watch what happens in Greece and you sit there still glassy eyed like an Obama Cult Zombie? N
There is no such thing and never has been such a thing as a "free-market". All markets are created and will seek out regulation. A black market starts as a "free-market" but it is quickly taken over by the underworld and therefore regulated, or it is legitimized and regulated by the government. So it is not a case of IF the market is regulated, but by and for whom. Deregulation actually just pushes the regulation of the market onto the largest of the producers by default.
All markets are created and will seek out regulation. A black market starts as a "free-market" but it is quickly taken over by the underworld and therefore regulated, or it is legitimized and regulated by the government. So it is not a case of IF the market is regulated, but by and for whom. Deregulation actually just pushes the regulation of the market onto the largest, most powerful of the producers (the corporations) by default.
Everything that has happened since Clintons time and then Bush, then massively explodes by Obama which clearly he's screwing us with all of his social programs w/no means to pay for them. This is the time for balance, but Obama is going overboard.. Fiscal regulations and the such can be put in place and the public is more attune to this than ever. Much can be done, but you don't charge ahead w/reforms w/out reading/understanding, & just throw $ at everything; this admin is clearly inept
Well why is there nothing to pay for them? oh yea, Republican tax cuts to the wealthy that did nothing for the economy but create a bubble and a deficit, a needless unending war, and making it profitable with the 'free-market' to ship jobs overseas. It IS time for balance, it's time to move back to the Left and away from the Right as we have been going. If Reagan ran for office today the Republicans would be calling even him a communist.
So it is because of the very same 'free-market' principles that have been pushed on us that it becomes a 'corporate' market. A 'free-market' will naturally become a 'corporate market'. Monopolies are fostered during periods of deregulation, the record of history bears this out. It was during the Gilded Age, a historically recognized period of laissez faire gov't that fostered some of the greatest monopolies until the present great wave of deregulation.
Libertarianism is the basis of plutocracy where an unregulated market makes the wealthy and corporations, the rule supreme. History has shown that the 'free-market' junk like there was in the Gilded, age only leads to concentrations of wealth and monopoly. Libertarianism is rule by money not by the people. In every case where 'free-market' principles were instituted the gap between rich and poor increased, as did poverty and brutal oppression. Chile, Colombia, Saipan, ect.
Libertarians have trumpeted the virtues of apartheid South Africa and the Saipan garment industry because of their supposed freedom. Business is free to pay lower wages, keep its employees locked in, and destroy the environment cause that's profitable and what the market demands. Those who don't can't compete in the "market" and will be swallowed. Paul represents oligarchy at its worse, it's just so sad the so many who it would never help advocate for libertarianism.
Libertarian philosophy is simplistic and disingenuous. It is basically: "Everything the market does is good, and anything the gov't does is bad." "If there was a negative outcome to any market action it was because of gov't interference" - no matter how much twisting of history and superficial interpretations there has to be to prove it. They hypocritically separate the actions taken on behalf of those using the market and designing its rules, with those enforcing them
Libertarians believe that the only rights that really matters are property rights, that inviolate private property is the only true measure of freedom. And so if you don't have any, too bad, let them find somebody else's property to complain on. They require perfection as the only applicable standard to judge government: libertarianism, being imaginary, cannot be fairly judged to have flaws. It is the philosophy that has and is underlying the elitist dictatorships around the world
@Rundstedt1 you & those like you have a choice, as we all do. Let's take every wet dream social program that Dems want to enact & tell me in this present economic time, HOW THE HELL DO U THINK WE CAN PAY FOR ALL OF THIS? This is where all U guys escape reality! What don't U understand about NOT having the $? Dems perpetuate a lifestyle of dependence, they maintain a voting block! LET PEOPLE LEARN TO CARE FOR THEMSELVES. The one's who can't can be helped, focus shld be on hand-ups, not hand-outs
There is plenty of money in this country, it just flows into very few hands. At the minimum it's time to take it back to when it was prosperous, like in the 50s and 60s when we had a 70%+ upper marginal tax rate. Oh the horror back them, rich people were only slightly less rich and the county ran just fine. You want to be a hermit fine go ahead live you selfish life, the rest of us have a society to look after.
A 'free-market' state is a corporate fascist state where the corporations can do what they wish because there is no governmental power to restrain them. Filling the power vacuum left by eviscerated gov't they become the gov't. Libertarianism is fascist Social Darwinist rule of money, those with the most money can do whatever they wish while the working people suffer without assistance victimized by a market they cannot control.
@Rundstedt1 No, just like the libs to take things to the extreme & leave out the facts. They are not against fiscal control, or a variety of other controls, it's the degree to which the gov takes over control; it's like if you repeat things enough, cult members will believe it, like blaming Bush for the financial mess we are in. Yes, he had a major hand in it, but how convenient it is to leave out the subprimes that started during the Clinton Admin (as much as I actually liked Clinton)
You probably liked Clinton because he followed the same Neocon/Neoliberal "free-market" junk that the conservatives love. Clinton was no left-winger, he may have had liberal social views but economically he acted almost like any conservative would. And I say almost because unlike them the budget deficit went down under him, and never so with the conservatives.
Oh the conservatives claim they are for controls but those are basically eviscerated and meaningless, or just as bad, they claim that like the business can police themselves. Even the "free-market" libertarian Ayn Rand cultist Greenspan had a moment of sanity and admitted that was a mistake.
And yes we can blame Bush, but the first cause can be found with Reagan and the deregulatory craze. And it was under him and the mantra of 'de-regulation' that the Sub-primes started not as you falsely claim under Clinton. It was he that signed the Garn-St. Germain Depository Institutions Act that caused the more immediate savings and loan crises and set us on the road to this one. It was that and the later Tax Reform Act of 1986 that really started the Sub-prime market.
"For the more one looks into the origins of the current disaster, the clearer it becomes that the key wrong turn - the turn that made crisis inevitable - took place in the early 1980s, during the Reagan years.
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The immediate effect of Garn-St. Germain, as I said, was to turn the thrifts from a problem into a catastrophe. -
The S.& L. crisis has been written out of the Reagan hagiography, but the fact is that deregulation in effect gave the industry — whose deposits were federally insured — a license to gamble with taxpayers’ money, at best, or simply to loot it, at worst. By the time the government closed the books on the affair, taxpayers had lost $130 billion, back when that was a lot of money. -
But there was also a longer-term effect. Reagan-era legislative changes essentially ended New Deal restrictions on mortgage lending — restrictions that, in particular, limited the ability of families to buy homes without putting a significant amount of money down. These restrictions were put in place in the 1930s by political leaders who had just experienced a terrible financial crisis, and were trying to prevent another. -
But by 1980 the memory of the Depression had faded. Government, declared Reagan, is the problem, not the solution; the magic of the marketplace must be set free. And so the precautionary rules were scrapped.
Together with looser lending standards for other kinds of consumer credit, this led to a radical change in American behavior. -
Attacks on Reaganomics usually focus on rising inequality and fiscal irresponsibility. Indeed, Reagan ushered in an era in which a small minority grew vastly rich, while working families saw only meager gains. He also broke with longstanding rules of fiscal prudence.
On the latter point: traditionally, the US government ran significant budget deficits only in times of war or economic emergency. Federal debt as a percentage of GDP fell steadily from the end of WWII until 1980. -
But indebtedness began rising under Reagan; it fell again in the Clinton years, but resumed its rise under the Bush administration, leaving us ill prepared for the emergency now upon us.
The increase in public debt was, however, dwarfed by the rise in private debt, made possible by financial deregulation. The change in America’s financial rules was Reagan’s biggest legacy. And it’s the gift that keeps on taking". - Paul Krugman
Although it was during the end Clinton's presidency that the disastrous REPUBLICAN bill, the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, replaced the Glass-Steagall Act and the then sub-primes really took off under Bush. Clinton may have signed it, but it was a Republican bill and a de-regulatory Neocon/ Neoliberal 'free-market' one with conservative support, and it would have been passed over his Veto had he not sighed it anyway.
But I'm not here to defend the democrats, many of them are just as likely to be tainted by the same ridiculous 'free-market' junk as the Republicans but maybe to less of a degree. I may be forced to vote for them as the lesser of two evils, but I'm not really one, and would vote for the likes of at least a Bernie Sanders if I had the opportunity.
It doesn't matter where it comes form, 'free-market' economics, supply side economics, Neocon/Neoliberal economics and all that same deregulatory crap is always a disaster for all but the rich.
Deregulatory spells and laissez faire only mean greater concentrations of wealth at the top the development of corporate monopolies and more frequent crisis. The record of history bears this out. The conservatives and other 'free-marketers only want to give us another Gilded Age where there is no real middle class and the workers have no rights and live in squalor.
@Rundstedt1 This is More Crap! You truly think the middle class won't have tax heights out the ass under Obama? Do you really believe this? The middle class can acquire jobs from those who know how to run and succeed in business. If the middle class person decides he wants to run his own bus, he can learn and make the same efforts and earn wealth that he can choose what to do with to help others. Rich people have a history of charitable donations.
@WingThaiJ ~ lmao. "the middle class can acquire jobs from those who know how to run and succeed in business". you mean like the chuckleheads in the bush administration who started two wars, lost 8 million private sector jobs, sold off the public trust, and destroyed our standing in the world? obama is creating jobs, check out the statistics at the 'the bureau of labor'. so much for your rhetoric having any substantive truth.
@tomitstube The jobs created ARE GOVERNMENT JOBS AND ARE TEMPORARY! Also, Any Jobs created are TEMPORARY because the $ not from production, it's artificial. You can read stats all over the place, it's a SNAP SHOT IN TIME! Y has the unemployment rate Increased? It's OVER 10% as many stats don't count those who gave up looking. Jobs can be temporary continued until the $ runs out. In the mean time, DEBT is increasing & Bus has no confidence to hire. Bush sucked, OBAMA made him look conservative
Obama outpaced Bush and continues to do so. Increasing the Debt to help a few with jobs temporarily is not the way to go. We need LONG TERM job growth, which only occurs when business are hiring and money is earned via business production. EVERY employee who receives $ from stimulus knows it could run out at any time, their job now makes statistics look good, but only for as long as the job can last. Now debt increases; this is a bullshit way to manage.
@WingThaiJ ~ wow, so when the statistics don't fit around your false rhetoric, it must be the statistics that are wrong? bush was losing 800,000 jobs a month when obama took over. from march of 08 to jan 09 bush lost 5 million private sector jobs. obama enacted the stimulus that by nov. 09 there was job gains.
some 8 million jobs lost due to bush's failed economy. some "business man" eh?
in fact, isn't bush the "mba" president? he's the only one! ouch, that's gotta hurt.
@tomitstube Bush screwed up, what makes you think I'm a Bush fan? Obama surpassed blazed by him and if you want I'll email you the difference in their spending. The problem started during Clinton with subprimes, made regs which caused & encouraged the sale of homes to those who could not afford it. Now we have a huge deficit, so trying to pay for all these social programs at one time is just plain INSANE!! U really thing we can do this huh? I have a cottage in the woods I'd like to show you.
He's a right-winger, we shouldn't expect him to care about things like facts and statistics because reality doesn't fit his schema. Reality after all; "has a well known liberal bais" as Colbert would say - lol
@Rundstedt1 That's the best joke yet! I'm Independent, always leaned Democratic, until I WOKE UP! Your facts and stats are bogus; read the articles I posted. I'VE NEVER voted Republican and You Libs better wise up as most of the Indpendents, if not all, haven't gained a religious conviction for one side or the other and we can all see how inept the Obama Admin is and NOT to see this truly demonstrates a Religious Connection; ahh. Cult!
I see your at a loss for words! Keep up the race crap, it's actually having the opposite of the intended effect. The tea party is growing instead of people fearing the label you want to ascribe. Spend 15 hour days building a bus in this present environment when you aren't currently wealthy & tell me U wouldn't rather be the one to choose who you donate to instead of the Gov.If U R financially secure, there's nothing from stopping U or anyone from donating. Dem = Foster Dependence on others
@Rundstedt1 Let's make this simple! Look up a tea party chapter and go there yourself and see what racism is about. Take a video camera with you and see what happens. Hey, now that's a test. what do you say?
@WingThaiJ Beck once played with Hendrix!You should not confuse people your nonscence!!And Beck mad an excellent versio of "Good by Pork Pie Hat" a Charles Mingus tune!Both where colored muisicans!So WongTai your wrong!!
Hmmm I seem to remember a little racist letter just written where the teaparty leader used terms like 'colored'... no racism in the tea party? Haha, he was just stupid enough to put it in print, but it clear that he voiced what many of them feel - hahahaha
@WingThaiJ Okey "WingSongMy" !Maybee Beck had some trouble withTEA-Parties and other stronger things,but why bother!He played excellent guitar!Why all this crap about him?
Oh goodie you're going to buy me a video camera, but I still don't need to go, it's already been done and by many others. The baggers are just a silly fringe group with massive corporate sponsorship that does the bidding of the wealthy and don't even know it. Since the 'free-market' solutions have taken off during the Reagan era we have seen the rich get richer and the working class and small business suffer.
@Rundstedt1 The local tea party here has no corporate backing. Where do you come up with this stuff? You see, you won't even test out your theory yourself. Again, if you don't like the American Way, which has allowed more innovation then anywhere else, where EVERYONE has a chance to make it if they dedicate themselves and work hard, then move to Venezuela or some other country. Your a teacher? This usually means you never ran a real company. 1960 radical maybe?
@WingThaiJ As fare as i know Beck not been to Cuba!Mybee some week on pure vacation or so.But how cares?You should believe all you read "SongMyWing"!
And Rundstedt1 is a Fellow Farmer to me SongMy!Shame on you!Hard working with kids that are home schooled!!You should show him respect for his knowledge!!
@Rundstedt1 OK, find the videos and collect your $100K! Go to as many Tea Party Meetings as you can with a video camera... The only thing ever caught was a guy who, like Sherrod, was taken out of context. When you see the whole footage, the tea party members were kicking this lone asshole out telling him to get the hell out of there & he wasn't part of them, etc... Now tell me this wasn't a true conspiracy when a corp shows this video w/out including the other footage
@WingThaiJ NO "People don´t want charity,they want justice and equalty" as Tom Payne once wrote!Give your camera to Beck instead!He is a Tom Payne Fan!
@WingThaiJ Socialist Parties participate in or control governments in every country of Europe and South America. As a result, people in these countries live far better then Americans.While you worry about Socialism producing tyranny i the future, American capitalism has produced total tyranny, imperialism, chaos, unemployment, & poverty. Why do you invent a bogyman when America is a horror?
@Rundstedt1 Holy Shit, no wonder U R saying wacked out things, I C on your site U R a genuine Socialist! U talk about a planned economy,etc.Who's going to plan it, YOU? Who should the dictators of this society be? U truly think people will ultimately let someone else dictate their lives? In America, people R free to strive for dreams. NOBODY has a say in what others can or cannot accomplish. Socialism is NOT America; You like? MOVE to another country where they like this sort of thing.
There have already been tax cuts for the Middle class under Obama and this can be easily verified in many publications, there is even a calculator available to find your out your personal cut.
President Barack Obama talked a lot about economic recovery during his State of the Union address on Jan. 27, 2010, including the benefits of the economic stimulus bill passed last year.
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The stimulus, formally known as the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, included tax cuts for many Americans, Obama said.
"We cut taxes. We cut taxes for 95 percent of working families. We cut taxes for small businesses," Obama said. "We cut taxes for first-time homebuyers. We cut taxes for parents trying to care for their children. We cut taxes for 8 million Americans paying for college."
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Because the stimulus act did give that broad-based tax cut to workers, we rate Obama's statement True. - Politifact
1. "Making Work Pay" Tax Credit (Sec. 1001, Page 195). In tax years 2009 and 2010, the Making Work Pay provision will provide a refundable tax credit of 6.2 percent of earned income up to $400 for individuals and up to $800 for married taxpayers filing joint returns.
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2. Increase in the Earned Income Tax Credit (Sec. 1002, Page 198). Go to the stimulus bill for all the details, but it essentially expands this benefit for the working poor.
3. Increased Eligibility for the Refundable Portion of Child Credit (Sec. 1003, Page 199). In 2009 and 2010, families who don’t earn enough to pay income tax would be eligible to claim the $1,000 child credit.
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4. "American Opportunity" Education Tax Credit (Sec. 1004, Page 199). Increases the Hope Scholarship Credit to $2,500.
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5. Refundable First-time Home Buyer Credit. (Sec. 1006, Page 202). This extended and increased the first-time home buyer tax credit from $7,500 to $8,000
6. Temporary Suspension of Taxation of Unemployment Benefits (Sec. 1007, Page 203). This exempts from taxable gross income the first $2,400 of unemployment benefits.
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7. Tax Credits for Energy-Efficient Improvements to Existing Homes (Sec. 1121, Page 208). This provides up to a $1,500 tax credit for qualified energy efficiency improvements.
8. Sales Tax Deduction for Vehicle Purchases (Sec. 1008, Page 203). This allows people to write off state and local sales taxes related to the purchase of a new vehicle costing up to $49,500.
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9. Premium Credits for COBRA Continuation Coverage for Unemployed Workers (Sec. 6432, Page 348)
10. Economic Recovery Credits to Recipients of Social Security, SSI, Railroad Retirement and Veterans Disability Compensation Benefits (Sec. 2201, Page 336). This was a $250 payment for senior citizens, disabled veterans and disabled people living on Social Security benefits.
HOW CAN PEPOLE DO THIS TO SOMEONE THAT SICK IN NEED OF HELP AND TO THROW DOLLER BILLS AT HIM AND BASH HIM AND SAY HES A FAKE AND COULD MAKE MORE MONEY ELESWERE WTF KINDA COUNTRY DO WE LIVE IN TODAY ITS FULL OF HATE GREED & LIES WHAT EVER HAPPEN TO THE DAYS OF BEING A STORNG COUNTRY RESPECTFUL TO ONE ANOTHER AND GIVEING A HELPING HAND TO HELP PULL UP THE FALLING I BELIEVE IN GOD AND I KNOW HOW TO RESPECT PEPOLE I DONT NEED A GROUP OF CRAZY NUTS TO TELL ME HOW TO BELIEVE OR TELL ME HOW TO ACT
grizzleybearz282004 4 months ago
Its funny how the tea partiers are all middle class to rich people. they couldn't possibly understand what its really like to be poor.
ironkatia 1 year ago
@ironkatia I had to move back in with my parents and have about 3.00 in change in my pocket so stfu. You have no idea what kind of people the tea partiers are. Don't be so narrow minded and think for yourself instead of being spoonfed by the MSM.
gmanuel81 1 year ago
Great Glenn Beck Show today. I'd like to see anyone actually rebut any of the info. on the show. Dems have controlled in the failing cities for ions, look at the Unions and the pyramid/ponzie schemes going on; getting rid of cops instead of opera houses, etc. Take his info. then google it ... Weather Underground is part of current system; We really do need to get Dems out of office....
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ If our are an conservative why not read some real stuff like Edmund Burke or some other in that tradition with his head screwed on?And you don´t like the "Elite" you wrote .But you admire TV Superstars like Beck and Wealthy Billionaire Stockbrokers on from Wall Street William Weidner,and othe Bailed Out Persons and talk about "Common Sence"!No it don´t go together WingThaiJ!
zsylvana 1 year ago
@zsylvana Unlike perhaps you I admire success. William Weidner came from a POOR family! He worked his way up the ladder through HARD WORK. When you talk about Beck, I could care less about him, I care about the information & it is researchable. I'm agnostic & can get around HIS personal religious views. People like Weidner could not reach the plateaus they've reached w/out a country that avails such Opportunity; socialism can steal inspiration, inventiveness & motivation.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
..the planned economy or anything less than capitalism is not conducive to the scientific and medical discoveries achieved and reward for personal perseverance & hard work is the driving force behind invention which it should be.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
It's so amazing that not 1 of Becks detractors can point to his info & say it's wrong, they only complain about him as they don't have any arguments against the content. This video is a clear examples. Beck is only saying that Jesus, if U choose to believe he was more than a man or not, did not believe in pick pocketing people and giving to others. It is the persons responsibility to donate or give, but at his/her own discretion, not the Governments who gives cheks to dead people & illegals.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
As far as the congressman being called the N word; this guy KNOWS that was a lie, none of the videos where audio can be clearly heard demonstrates this, w/all the cell phones w/cam corders on them, not one person can collect the $100K offered to prove this actually happened or that racism exists in the T Party.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
BECK HEADS? ROFL! I, as anyone, has ability to research his or anyone's info.. I don't trust what he says, I look it up. Abandon the homeless, feed the hungry, heel the sick?No, they are to help all of them, the question his how. This Ass thinks Jesus was some sort of Pick Pocket, justifying outright theft & allowing the Gov which notoriously wastes $ decide what to do w/the $. No, Beck advocates INDIVIDUALS choose who do donate to & how. Morons think they know better than you or I!
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
I've seen so many people collect phony disability claims, phony law suits, drug addicts collecting disability only to make new drug dealer contacts at rehab facilities instead of being rehabbed; working under the table, etc..The % is much higher than reported, because all of these people weren't caught & not part of national statistics & this goes on in every state in U.S.This is a form of socialism; it demotivates people, takes away inventiveness & fosters dependence, keeps votes to keep power
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
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Fascism is right-wing, fiercely nationalist, subjectivist in philosophy, and totalitarian in practice. It is an extreme reactionary form of capitalist government. Fascism began in Italy, Germany , Spain and various other nations, starting generally in the time between the first and second world war. The origin of the term comes from the Italian word fascismo, derived from the Latin fasces (a bundle of elm or birch rods containing an ax: emblem of the Italian Fascist movement in 1919.)
zsylvana 1 year ago
The social composition of Fascist movements have historically been small capitalists, low-level bureaucrats of all stripes, with great success in rural areas, especially among farmers, peasants, and in the city, slum workers. Meanwhile, fascist leadership invariably comes to power through the sponsorship and funding of massive capitalists, without needing a revolution. These capitalists along with the top-tier leaders they create become fascism's ruling aristocracy.
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@zsylvana It is not up to others to determine the potential of someone else. This is what makes America Great, it's freedom, but that doesn't mean freedom w/out reasonable regulation. A persons motivation & drive comes from w/in & in America people have the ability to achieve & invent like no where else in the world. Gov should not steal from 1 to give to others who don't have the drive & want to live off the backs of the efforts of others. What's the point...
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@zsylvana what's the point in studying to take a test in the class if the teacher is going to redistribute the grades anyway? This is no different than socialism. Socialism is a sense of entitlement for doing little. People should be rewarded for what their hard work & decide who to give to as opposed to the Gov who is still sending checks to dead people & illegal aliens. A cartoon aptly depicts Ab Lincoln telling slave he is free while Obama is telling every1 "You Are Mine" All dictatorships
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ So what you mean if i understand your right is that :-the basis of Obama thinking, however, it does not reach? When we think of the truth of being, metaphysics is overcome and we can no longer accept the claim of metaphysics that it takes care of the fundamental involvement in "Being" and that it decisively determines all relations to beings as such?.And as long as man remains the animal rationale he is also the animal metaphysicum?And that is what Obama is intended to do?
zsylvana 1 year ago
@zsylvana sorry, U R apparently try'g to post a thought in a box that limits U to 500 characters, so what U R saying is just not getting through to me on this 1. I'm saying obama surrounded himself w/socialistic types, he apparently believes in stealing from hard workers & giving to those who did not make same choices in life. He trusts Gov to better decide what 2 do w/other people's $ instead of allowing the successful person express his own gratitude by donating $ the way he sees fit instead.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ Obamo or not it´s the question concerning existence, however, is always subservient to that question which is nothing less than tho only question of thought. This question, yet to be unfolded, concerns the truth of being as the concealed ground of all. For this reason the treatise which sought to point the way back into the ground of metaphysics did not bear the title "Existence and Time," nor "Consciousness and Time," but Being and Time.Obama could not change and either Mc Bain!
zsylvana 1 year ago
@zsylvana Again, you are speaking in etherial terms 'existence', 'being' , 'metaphysics', if I am to take you seriously, then you seem to be talking about a person destined to be a certain way w/out choice, Obama is who is is, McCaine is who he is, etc... Bottom Line: I live in America, America is Capitalistic, it's what brought inventiveness & industry. People who don't like it should move to a socialistic country & leave America stay as America.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@zsylvana ...started via socialism and yes, Adolf Hitler was a socialist and I'll be damned if anyone else is going to steal from me when I put in nearly 13+++ hours per day building my own business. If I'm held down via being overtaxed & the sort, how can I get to the point where I can afford to give to whom I choose? As an author wrote, the dream of socialism is a beautiful 1, for every1 to be equal to one another, same stature & $, what of individualism & individual choices & commerce?
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
Where's the motivation to invent & develop so much of what was developed in America over the yrs? It seems that most who R in to socialism R not as interested in allow others realize their full potential; not interested in working hard & would rather find ways 2 steal hard earned income from others & hand them out to many who sit on their ass all day. I like having chance for American dream; this is what America provides. If U don't like the American Dream, move to a socialistic country.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@zsylvana sorry for typo's but you get the message.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@zsylvana Google Capitalism versus socialism in American. The essay is right on.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@zsylvana also google Book Review
by George C. Leef, Posted December 31, 2004
How Capitalism Saved America
by Thomas J. DiLorenzo (Crown Forum, 2004)
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ Thanks!I should do read Leöf and Di Maggio!But to say about your statement about Obama education don´t you think its answers to the question concerning beings as such, and a prior conception of Being? It speaks of Being !Rember that it does not induce Being itself to speak, and not recall Being in its truth! nor does it recall truth as unconcealedness,or does it recall the nature of unconcealedness?Nature of truth always appears only form of the truth of knowledge and the truth!
zsylvana 1 year ago
@zsylvana look I'm sorry, I see you are a Chomsky fan and I'm not fan of Chomsky and there's plenty of material out there to debunk chomskyism and I'm not going to get into a debate with you about him. Smooth talking people who sound convincing w/little relation to reality. You are speaking in etherial terms in a you tube box; it doesn't work, I have no way of knowing what you are saying & perhaps u r just having fun w/your verbiage. So be it!
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ No i voted for Chompky neiher on Mc Bain that has fallen into the oblivion of being which has, at the same time, become and remained the fateful demand on thought in and his politic could hardly have given a clearer demonstration of the power of this oblivion of Being than it has furnished us by the somnambulistic assurance with which it has passed by the real and only question of at stake here is,
and Mc Bains series of misunderstandings of a book but our abandonment being.
zsylvana 1 year ago
I did not vote for Chompky, neither on Mc Bain, which fell into an oblivion of an undetermined insurmountable ecclesiastical component of reform that has yet to yield one part-rage of patronage to the all powerful all encompassing policies of movements of our forefathers for whom this society was based & from whom we decided to build a country, not evangelical, not partisan, not fundamental, rather, free to form a transformative figure onto the day our country marches into it's new era.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@zsylvana nothing about Obamas education, prior conception of being is an apogee thought from 19th century if you look up your Moriarty (sp?) tribulations it will clearly detail the enumeration of the classes from not only the 19th century, but so too the 20th century; from that point onward, the nature of the truth can be explicitly dissected to reveal the original meaning of socialistic growth versus a capitalistic tendency and compares that to the potential growth of invention and science.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ No your wrong on that!And this,also says the Cummunists is because "we base our doctrine upon pure subjectivity" upon the i think: which is the moment in which solitary man attains to himself; a position from which it is impossible to regain solidarity with other men who exist outside of the self.The ego cannot reach them through the cogito.No Mc Bain was wrong!!A Statist!a position from which it is impossible to regain solidarity with other men who exist outside of the self!
zsylvana 1 year ago
@zsylvana In the end, America has always worked best as a Capitalist nation, great strides have been achieved and if anyone doesn't think it's fair to work hard to earn one's own success, they really need to be the one's to move to another country. Greece is no shining example of entitlement programs, they're pissed for having to retire in their 50's, a few more years than they are use to. Entitlements foster dependence and laziness and this is certainly not something we need in America
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@zsylvana every dictator in history came about via Socialism; making people dependent thereby ensuring power. Obama will make illegal immigrants legal if he can because he knows he'll get their vote and therefore the power. He wants to tell Americans what has to happen w/their hard earned $ & w/enough dependent people he'll have the votes to do this = Dictatorship! Sorry, America isn't about a Free Ride; you have to work for a living.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ No not all!Remember WongTy that attempt to inquire back into what conceals itself here seeks, from the point of view of dictature,and the fundament of it allways "Sontology". Therefore this attempt is called Fundamentalontologie (or fundamental ontology conservatism)! Yet this title, like any title, is soon seen to be inappropriate. From the point of view , to be sure, it says something that is correct; but precisely for that reason it is not in case of Obama!He got Elected!!
zsylvana 1 year ago
@zsylvana look you are getting into Nicolai Hartmann versus Heidegger's philosophical stuff; as far as I'm concerned phrenology is a pseudoscience. As far as I'm concerned, Americans CAN and NEED TO vote Obama out and that will be the next effect of being and metaphysical outcome.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ No Hatman was wrong!He was out outranged as Economist by great Nikolas Kaldor in his famous statement: "Market equilibrium requires that Y(t) = C(t) + A(t), where consumption C(t) = cY(t) = (1-s)Y(t) and investment A(t) is as derived before so that:Y(t) = A(t)/s = (1/sq )[K(t+q ) - K(t)] and in the linear D(t), the decision to invest can be rewritten as: D(t) = (a /q )[K(t+q ) - K(t)] - d K(t)
And:D(t) = (a /q )K(t+q ) - [d + a /q ]K(t)and before, that D(t) = I(t+q ) = dK(t+q )/dt.
zsylvana 1 year ago
Wonderful, means a lot in the real world huh? Here's a nice video to watch:
Search on YouTube:
Keynesian Economics: The Beast That Won't Die | Peter G. Klein
Excerpts, watch video and see it all: INARGUABLE...
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ Your very confused by FOX news.
Keynes, John Maynard (1883-1946)Was a member of Liberal Party of England and
belived in Capitalism economic system
His most important work, The General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money (1935-36), advocated a remedy for economic recession.Read that instead if you manage to go throw it.
zsylvana 1 year ago
@zsylvana LOOK UP Keynesian Economics: The Beast That Won't Die | Peter G. Klein on YouTube. Then you'll see what I mean about Keynesian...
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ Thank you for reading advise,but i allready read J.M Keynes,Milton Friedman,Paul Samuelson and whole the bunch of esteemed of schoolars from Chicago Uni.to MIT and Harvard,although i teach about their work at Universities now and then.Peter G. Klein is not what i can see among the at least 2000 most respected economists so i missed him.Please give me a short review of this well hidden genius main thesis.
zsylvana 1 year ago
The point is KISS:Keep It Simple Stupid"U don't need to be a Harvard Grad 2 know Keynesian doesn't work.. I can respect one's knowledge as someone in the field, however, I have to evaluate those in the real word as opposed to the etherial. Most academicians spent their time in Universities; People like William Weidner not only taught in Univ- Bus, econo; He ran Multimill $ corps around world & knows how real life wrks & he knows Keynesian Fails & Libs have no clue how to manage other people's $
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
oh... and socialists should move to a socialistic country instead of trying to turn our country into something Americans don't want and should not have to put up with.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
You can google William P Weidner; take all of your academic experience & compare someone who lives & breaths Business and world trade, etc..
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
.... and does so beyond etherial philosophy...
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
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@zsylvana BTW, you could copy and paste Keynesian Economics: The Beast That Won't Die | Peter G. Klein into your YouTube search box & listen to common sense as oppose to one's perceived intellect - It's the Content, Not The economist... It's also those who live it in the Real World beyond the Black Board who see 1st hand how things work - Hence, B . Weidner..
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@zsylvana copy and past search terms in youtube box and watch. Common Sense need not exist in the container of the head of an elite economist... I'd like to know how many elite economists actually personally experiences how things work in the real world first hand by running business's and/or corporations personally, establishing relationships & take into considerations that workers aren't interchangeable pieces that fit neatly into the Keynesian model, they are all individuals w/diff training.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
Fascism has many different forms: the Italian fascism of Mussolini was often against Hitler’s Fascism, calling it “one hundred percent racism: Against everything and everyone: Yesterday against Christian civilization, today against Latin civilization, tomorrow, who knows, against the civilization of the whole world.” The birth of fascism in Germany was aided by Western governments, who for two decades viewed it as the ideology that would successfully crush the Soviet Union
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WingThaiJ 1 year ago
excellent vid. someone should tell adolf beck that jesus was a "liberal".
tomitstube 1 year ago
"Here the Jew's procedure is as follows ... With infinite shrewdness he fans the need for social justice, somehow slumbering in every Aryan man, into hatred against those who have been better favored by fortune, and thus gives the struggle for the elimination of social evils a very definite philosophical stamp. He establishes the Marxist doctrine.” - Adolf Hitler. Mein Kampf. vol1. ch 11.
Social Justice = Marxism? Where do we keep hearing that? Oh yes. hahaha
theyounghistorian77 1 year ago
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HEY THIS IS SO TRUE: Obama loves Jobs, but they HATE Job Creators, so the Jobs don't come! I HAVE A BUSINESS, I WILL NOT HIRE ANYONE UNTIL I HAVE A PRESIDENT THAT INSTILLS ECONOMIC CONFIDENCE! OBAMA ADMIN IS A WASTE AND ALL OF YOU BLIND MINDLESS OBAMA CULT FOLLOWERS WON'T BE HAPPY UNTIL YOU DRIVE OUR COUNTRY INTO THE GROUND AND LET CHINA TAKE OVER!
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
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@WingThaiJ (1/2)
Not only are you lying about having a business, you are obviously a menial laborer, but even if you did, than you are nothing more than an obstructionist. And by the way it is because of the foolish 'free-market' junk that all the jobs move out of the country. A 'free-market' means the lowest common denominator for workers.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago 2
@WingThaiJ (2/2)
The beginning of problems of this country can be traced directly back to Reagan, since him and his 'free-market' supply side junk the rich have gotten richer and the rest of the people the shaft. And again, no amount of stupid and childish use of capital letter will change the truth
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
1:20 - 1:27 ... NOT THROUGH GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED REDISTRIBUTION!!!!! YES! Because it's NOT charity or christian to take away from others to give to another! We should GIVE, not through compulsory means, but love unfeigned for God and our brothers and sisters! (2 Corinthians 6:1-10)
BlackJacx1 1 year ago
@BlackJacx1 2:23 it's interesting that you can hear the man so clearly, and yet other people on camera aren't heard unless that man is facing them... almost like he was wearing a mic. I also notice a distinct lack of anyone except for that man "throwing dollar bills".
BlackJacx1 1 year ago
@BlackJacx1 2:43 if they have audio or video I'm sure Brietbart is offering $100,000 for his web news site. Those fools were afraid the tea partys were violent, so instead of going in through the secure entrance, they tried to bait them to attack, walking through the crowd lauding their victory and waving their gavel. If someone did curse at them, or call them a name as they assert it was probably going both ways... But given who said it happened, probably not.
BlackJacx1 1 year ago
I'd like to take that dollar and shove it down that moron bastard's throat. I want all the money back from him that we spent to provide that son of a bitch free roads and free police and fire protection. What an F-tard. God I hate ditto-heads.
sinistar99 1 year ago
You missed his point. When Glenn Beck said to get away from Social Justice, he was not talking about us VOLUNTARILY helping those in need. It's when the government comes in and TAKES YOUR MONEY AGAINST YOUR WILL to give it to the poor. Jesus never said give to Ceaser and let Ceaser help the poor. He commanded us to help directly. The Bible also says if a man won't work, let him not eat. Government gives to the lazy. Social Justice as a political system is BAD.
RealInsaneGalvatron 1 year ago
I am so glad someone from the Christian community is pointing out the disgraceful way Beck and his followers act and behave. There was a prophecy given by Joseph Smith, the founder of the Mormon Church, called the white horse prophecy, I think in some twisted way Beck is trying to fulfill it.Google it and you can read it for yourself. I think Beck wants us under the boot of the Mormon Church.
davewvc 1 year ago
Very disturbing. Daily for 3 hours on radio & an hour of prime time tv Beck preaches hatred, bigotry, racism, & paranoia - none of it based on facts, all of it sick twisted lies. The American people have limited access to truth & facts to counter this destructive propaganda, since 90% of the media is owned and controlled by the same multi-national, anti-American corporations that are profiting obscenely from keeping us mis-informed and angry at each other, at immigrants, at Islam, at Obama, etc.
mmmmarcy 1 year ago
So appropriate to play out this video with theme from M*A*S*H titled "Suicide is Painless"
rickamabob13 1 year ago
Members of the Tea Party are an embarrassment to the American way.
Corporate lemmings they are.
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TainaAtheist1 1 year ago
mike your a moron...go Glenn
scalplifter55 1 year ago
You're a dumb ass..
Dblock7185 1 year ago
I hope all the Becktards do committ suicide.The world would be a much better place.
blair227 1 year ago 5
Im a conservative. Look, our taxes will be raised b/c our premiums will all go up. That is a fact. How do you mandate an insurance company to cover more people and lower premiums. Its like having a dinner party. Lets say there are 5 people ordering out. Well that would be about $50. If 5 more people join the party, more people means more cost. But those 5 new ones cant pay for it so now those original 5 have to pay $20 a piece. It's simple simple math. Everyone who has insurance will pay more.
bigfisch42 1 year ago
@bigfisch42
federal taxes have gone down for 95% of all americans
imaginepeace63 1 year ago
One way will be that they have to spend 85% of their income on health care, not massive mansions and private jets.
Katya67 1 year ago
@bigfisch42
If private MANAGED health care works, why do countries with socialized medicine have longer life spans, lower incidents of serious diseases, and higher infant survivability rates PER CAPITA?
You wanna know who gets in between you and your doctor? Your HMO. You have a GATEKEEPER, and if you want a second opinion, but your doctor doesn't want you to, YOU DON'T GET IT!
REMEMBER, our PRIVATE health system is PRIVATE -MANAGED- care! This is coming from a former INSURANCE AGENT!
BusinessIDBAI 1 year ago
@bigfisch42 Have you ever heard the term "cheaper by the dozen"?
davewvc 1 year ago
@bigfisch42 They passed the bill and guess what? My health care premiums went down 7.5 % ! And your infantile, over-simplified metaphor is just that. Lets say 5 people are at a restaurant. But instead of paying the restaurant for food they have to pay a middle man food coverage. And he has to pay shareholders and marketing agents and lobbyists. They all make tons of money but to pay for all that it costs so much that the other 6 people outside have to starve. That's what's going on now.
sinistar99 1 year ago
the beavers going over the cliff at the end of the video was hilarious!! I'm going to go look for the video now...
I'm not Christian but if all Christians were like you, this world would be a million times better.
baihbalm 1 year ago
Beck is the next Jim Jones. I am just waiting for him to tell his brain dead audience to kil themselves even jokingly. And then see how many of them are stupid enough to do it. They already blindly follow his hitler like tirates and believe everything else he says. Good thing his audience is not that big. The rest of us with brains of our own and can think for ourselves can see right thru beck. I would say I feel sorry for anyone that listens to beck,but honestly I really don't.
whoyouare13 1 year ago
Jim Jones was a atheist communist who preached "social justice." Kind of sounds like Obama crowd to me, you ignorant hillbilly.
patsagainstrats 1 year ago
Your left wing groups must be saints then when you call our soldiers terrorists, called Bush a Nazi and call anyone who goes against you racists.
force67able 1 year ago
glassy eyed followers are Obama followers that will follow him anywhere just to get some freebees. Even if it ruins their own future and their country. They will trade their parents for socialist freebees
BlueSkies360 1 year ago
What freebies? No one is getting a freebie.
Katya67 1 year ago
Wow, totally insane...
thegiantpaperpanda 1 year ago
I love how Fox News and Beck tell these people that their Taxes are about to be raised. How many of these dumb shit tea baggers realize that they don't make enough money to fall into the bracket that is being taxed for this.
CodisOmodis 1 year ago 3
Betting all in on crazy.
j0hnwi11iams 1 year ago 2
Watching them anal retentive assholes mock that man with Parkinson's was too much. I hate those people.
voyzovrezon 1 year ago 9
Don't hate them, then that makes you no better. Feel sorry for them. They are ignorant yuppie scum that needs a wake up call that the world doesn't revolve around them.
CodisOmodis 1 year ago
It's hard not to wish they really would all drink the cool-aid.
juliewashere88 1 year ago 2
It was only a matter of time that fascist Beck would show his true colors.
Nogeorgiabelle 1 year ago 2
and I'm definitely going over the Pap Attacks with them.
dizzymasekela 1 year ago
This summer, I'm gonna be teaching a reading class to poor immigrant children and
dizzymasekela 1 year ago
Beckheads drink the Kool-Aid.
OhioDemocrat 1 year ago 2
Beck preaches that is your life sucks it's the government's fault.
cat00012000 1 year ago
Hey Pap, the idea that the Jim Jones followers willingly drank poison is a misconception. Witnesses actually said that the majority were force-fed the poison at gunpoint and then posed for the cameras. It was a mass-murder, not a mass suicide.
Scardy 1 year ago
True, but for Pap's point that isn't really important, the analogy still stands if we think of the Beck followers as the minority who were feeding the others poison. And that is what they are; a deluded minority that is trying to feed poison to society.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago 3
@Scardy i think it was only after the 1st round of followers started horribly dying the gun came out
jenspice27 1 year ago 3
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What the heck is this? This is a total distortment of Becks position. Its a classic straw-man setup. Who the heck believes this crap? Unbelievable..... this is friggin stalinist... this has to stop. Expose these frauds!
myeyepie 1 year ago
Beck has been inciting violence through fear mongering, that is not a strawman, it is a fact. He did make the ridicules statements equating social justice with totalitarianism; not recognizing that the new testament has great deal of social justice ideas in it. The real fraud is Beck who wouldn't know a real fact if it were to hit him in the head. He is a demagogue and all sane people recognize that.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago 13
@Rundstedt1 Doesn't the simple fact that they are lying about calling the congressman the N word enough to show you how much crap this video is? Since when is it christian to steal from someone else and give it to who you think should have it? Christian Dictatorships? I'm not christian, but christians should have the right to decide whom they'd like to donate to, it's not up to church leaders or politicians to steal money & decide what to do with it.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (1/4)
The only ones lying are those that deny that the incident happened as reported here. And I don't know why you go off on the stupid 'Christian' tangent. But it is clear that; were he to have been actually real, and not the myth that it is, the character known a Jesus would be a socialist. Remember the 'eye of a needle' thing?
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@Rundstedt1 you see, you have no clue whats going on then do you? Why haven't they been able to collect the $100,000 reward if this could be proven true? Oh, you didn't know about this? I guess it's because you watch the Obama Coddling Media stations who have never been so coddling to a President in our entire history. The character Jesus would not pick pocket someone to give it to someone else. He would allow a person to choose for himself! As is life, we make CHOICES-Gov isn't Jesus!
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (1/2)
The testimony of the victims; who are eminent members of congress, and all the racist and bigoted actions of the teabaggers that WERE recorded are proof enough. If a tree falls in a forest it still makes a noise, and when teabaggers are racist, they are racist even if it didn't happen to be recorded.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (2/2)
How about this, why don't YOU show proof that it didn't happen. Come on, there has to be tape of the incident that shows it didn't happen, right? What a laugh, just because it didn't happen on video doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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And then from you just...
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Bla Bla Bla... Another Becktard spews some shit....
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (2/4)
We all, as a society, have responsibilities to one another and progressive taxes are not 'theft' but part of the social contract...what IS theft is how those wealthy people gained their wealth in the first place. And since the Right-wing 'free-market' or 'trickle-down' junk, the same junk pushed by the deluded 'tea partiers', has been in prominence, we have seen the rich get richer and the rest get less of the pie.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (3/4)
If you don't want to contribute to the society than go off and be a hermit, don't take or use any of the things that the society has built, stay off our roads, stay out of our schools and hospitals... you want a 'free-market' and your selfish society, go move to Somalia where there is no nasty gov't to interfere with your egotistical blindness. There's the 'Free-market' at work. You can start your own business without a Gov't to interfere with you.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@Rundstedt1 people like you want our country to be a Somalia! Where the hell is your head? Do you realize that the whole Auto Fiasco was shown to have hurt auto worker jobs, not help? Go look up the inspector generals report non-conservative. Obama's admin has NO CLUE what they are doing, they are trying to run things they know nothing about, it's like the 3 stooges take over the US Gov! U R Blind to the fact that there are BETTER ways to help others that are being done & can be enhanced
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@Rundstedt1 A free Market is FAR From selfish; it has to do with choosing what to do with your own money. The government can't decide what to do with it it's not their money. You and yours should move to Somalia instead of trying to turn America into Somalia. Idiots have no clue we don't have the money to sustain all of these program? Do you really need a lesson on this? You watch what happens in Greece and you sit there still glassy eyed like an Obama Cult Zombie? N
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (1/9)
There is no such thing and never has been such a thing as a "free-market". All markets are created and will seek out regulation. A black market starts as a "free-market" but it is quickly taken over by the underworld and therefore regulated, or it is legitimized and regulated by the government. So it is not a case of IF the market is regulated, but by and for whom. Deregulation actually just pushes the regulation of the market onto the largest of the producers by default.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (2/9)
All markets are created and will seek out regulation. A black market starts as a "free-market" but it is quickly taken over by the underworld and therefore regulated, or it is legitimized and regulated by the government. So it is not a case of IF the market is regulated, but by and for whom. Deregulation actually just pushes the regulation of the market onto the largest, most powerful of the producers (the corporations) by default.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
Everything that has happened since Clintons time and then Bush, then massively explodes by Obama which clearly he's screwing us with all of his social programs w/no means to pay for them. This is the time for balance, but Obama is going overboard.. Fiscal regulations and the such can be put in place and the public is more attune to this than ever. Much can be done, but you don't charge ahead w/reforms w/out reading/understanding, & just throw $ at everything; this admin is clearly inept
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ
Well why is there nothing to pay for them? oh yea, Republican tax cuts to the wealthy that did nothing for the economy but create a bubble and a deficit, a needless unending war, and making it profitable with the 'free-market' to ship jobs overseas. It IS time for balance, it's time to move back to the Left and away from the Right as we have been going. If Reagan ran for office today the Republicans would be calling even him a communist.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (3/9)
So it is because of the very same 'free-market' principles that have been pushed on us that it becomes a 'corporate' market. A 'free-market' will naturally become a 'corporate market'. Monopolies are fostered during periods of deregulation, the record of history bears this out. It was during the Gilded Age, a historically recognized period of laissez faire gov't that fostered some of the greatest monopolies until the present great wave of deregulation.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (4/9)
Libertarianism is the basis of plutocracy where an unregulated market makes the wealthy and corporations, the rule supreme. History has shown that the 'free-market' junk like there was in the Gilded, age only leads to concentrations of wealth and monopoly. Libertarianism is rule by money not by the people. In every case where 'free-market' principles were instituted the gap between rich and poor increased, as did poverty and brutal oppression. Chile, Colombia, Saipan, ect.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (5/9)
Libertarians have trumpeted the virtues of apartheid South Africa and the Saipan garment industry because of their supposed freedom. Business is free to pay lower wages, keep its employees locked in, and destroy the environment cause that's profitable and what the market demands. Those who don't can't compete in the "market" and will be swallowed. Paul represents oligarchy at its worse, it's just so sad the so many who it would never help advocate for libertarianism.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (6/9)
Libertarian philosophy is simplistic and disingenuous. It is basically: "Everything the market does is good, and anything the gov't does is bad." "If there was a negative outcome to any market action it was because of gov't interference" - no matter how much twisting of history and superficial interpretations there has to be to prove it. They hypocritically separate the actions taken on behalf of those using the market and designing its rules, with those enforcing them
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@Wing (7/9)
Libertarians believe that the only rights that really matters are property rights, that inviolate private property is the only true measure of freedom. And so if you don't have any, too bad, let them find somebody else's property to complain on. They require perfection as the only applicable standard to judge government: libertarianism, being imaginary, cannot be fairly judged to have flaws. It is the philosophy that has and is underlying the elitist dictatorships around the world
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@Rundstedt1 you & those like you have a choice, as we all do. Let's take every wet dream social program that Dems want to enact & tell me in this present economic time, HOW THE HELL DO U THINK WE CAN PAY FOR ALL OF THIS? This is where all U guys escape reality! What don't U understand about NOT having the $? Dems perpetuate a lifestyle of dependence, they maintain a voting block! LET PEOPLE LEARN TO CARE FOR THEMSELVES. The one's who can't can be helped, focus shld be on hand-ups, not hand-outs
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ
There is plenty of money in this country, it just flows into very few hands. At the minimum it's time to take it back to when it was prosperous, like in the 50s and 60s when we had a 70%+ upper marginal tax rate. Oh the horror back them, rich people were only slightly less rich and the county ran just fine. You want to be a hermit fine go ahead live you selfish life, the rest of us have a society to look after.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (8/9)
A 'free-market' state is a corporate fascist state where the corporations can do what they wish because there is no governmental power to restrain them. Filling the power vacuum left by eviscerated gov't they become the gov't. Libertarianism is fascist Social Darwinist rule of money, those with the most money can do whatever they wish while the working people suffer without assistance victimized by a market they cannot control.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@Rundstedt1 No, just like the libs to take things to the extreme & leave out the facts. They are not against fiscal control, or a variety of other controls, it's the degree to which the gov takes over control; it's like if you repeat things enough, cult members will believe it, like blaming Bush for the financial mess we are in. Yes, he had a major hand in it, but how convenient it is to leave out the subprimes that started during the Clinton Admin (as much as I actually liked Clinton)
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (1/13)
You probably liked Clinton because he followed the same Neocon/Neoliberal "free-market" junk that the conservatives love. Clinton was no left-winger, he may have had liberal social views but economically he acted almost like any conservative would. And I say almost because unlike them the budget deficit went down under him, and never so with the conservatives.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (2/13)
Oh the conservatives claim they are for controls but those are basically eviscerated and meaningless, or just as bad, they claim that like the business can police themselves. Even the "free-market" libertarian Ayn Rand cultist Greenspan had a moment of sanity and admitted that was a mistake.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (3/13)
And yes we can blame Bush, but the first cause can be found with Reagan and the deregulatory craze. And it was under him and the mantra of 'de-regulation' that the Sub-primes started not as you falsely claim under Clinton. It was he that signed the Garn-St. Germain Depository Institutions Act that caused the more immediate savings and loan crises and set us on the road to this one. It was that and the later Tax Reform Act of 1986 that really started the Sub-prime market.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (4/13)
"For the more one looks into the origins of the current disaster, the clearer it becomes that the key wrong turn - the turn that made crisis inevitable - took place in the early 1980s, during the Reagan years.
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The immediate effect of Garn-St. Germain, as I said, was to turn the thrifts from a problem into a catastrophe. -
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (5/13)
The S.& L. crisis has been written out of the Reagan hagiography, but the fact is that deregulation in effect gave the industry — whose deposits were federally insured — a license to gamble with taxpayers’ money, at best, or simply to loot it, at worst. By the time the government closed the books on the affair, taxpayers had lost $130 billion, back when that was a lot of money. -
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (6/13)
But there was also a longer-term effect. Reagan-era legislative changes essentially ended New Deal restrictions on mortgage lending — restrictions that, in particular, limited the ability of families to buy homes without putting a significant amount of money down. These restrictions were put in place in the 1930s by political leaders who had just experienced a terrible financial crisis, and were trying to prevent another. -
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (7/13)
But by 1980 the memory of the Depression had faded. Government, declared Reagan, is the problem, not the solution; the magic of the marketplace must be set free. And so the precautionary rules were scrapped.
Together with looser lending standards for other kinds of consumer credit, this led to a radical change in American behavior. -
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@Wing (8/13)
Attacks on Reaganomics usually focus on rising inequality and fiscal irresponsibility. Indeed, Reagan ushered in an era in which a small minority grew vastly rich, while working families saw only meager gains. He also broke with longstanding rules of fiscal prudence.
On the latter point: traditionally, the US government ran significant budget deficits only in times of war or economic emergency. Federal debt as a percentage of GDP fell steadily from the end of WWII until 1980. -
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (9/13)
But indebtedness began rising under Reagan; it fell again in the Clinton years, but resumed its rise under the Bush administration, leaving us ill prepared for the emergency now upon us.
The increase in public debt was, however, dwarfed by the rise in private debt, made possible by financial deregulation. The change in America’s financial rules was Reagan’s biggest legacy. And it’s the gift that keeps on taking". - Paul Krugman
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (10/13)
Although it was during the end Clinton's presidency that the disastrous REPUBLICAN bill, the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, replaced the Glass-Steagall Act and the then sub-primes really took off under Bush. Clinton may have signed it, but it was a Republican bill and a de-regulatory Neocon/ Neoliberal 'free-market' one with conservative support, and it would have been passed over his Veto had he not sighed it anyway.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (11/13)
But I'm not here to defend the democrats, many of them are just as likely to be tainted by the same ridiculous 'free-market' junk as the Republicans but maybe to less of a degree. I may be forced to vote for them as the lesser of two evils, but I'm not really one, and would vote for the likes of at least a Bernie Sanders if I had the opportunity.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (12/13)
It doesn't matter where it comes form, 'free-market' economics, supply side economics, Neocon/Neoliberal economics and all that same deregulatory crap is always a disaster for all but the rich.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (13/13)
Deregulatory spells and laissez faire only mean greater concentrations of wealth at the top the development of corporate monopolies and more frequent crisis. The record of history bears this out. The conservatives and other 'free-marketers only want to give us another Gilded Age where there is no real middle class and the workers have no rights and live in squalor.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@Rundstedt1 This is More Crap! You truly think the middle class won't have tax heights out the ass under Obama? Do you really believe this? The middle class can acquire jobs from those who know how to run and succeed in business. If the middle class person decides he wants to run his own bus, he can learn and make the same efforts and earn wealth that he can choose what to do with to help others. Rich people have a history of charitable donations.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ ~ lmao. "the middle class can acquire jobs from those who know how to run and succeed in business". you mean like the chuckleheads in the bush administration who started two wars, lost 8 million private sector jobs, sold off the public trust, and destroyed our standing in the world? obama is creating jobs, check out the statistics at the 'the bureau of labor'. so much for your rhetoric having any substantive truth.
tomitstube 1 year ago
@tomitstube The jobs created ARE GOVERNMENT JOBS AND ARE TEMPORARY! Also, Any Jobs created are TEMPORARY because the $ not from production, it's artificial. You can read stats all over the place, it's a SNAP SHOT IN TIME! Y has the unemployment rate Increased? It's OVER 10% as many stats don't count those who gave up looking. Jobs can be temporary continued until the $ runs out. In the mean time, DEBT is increasing & Bus has no confidence to hire. Bush sucked, OBAMA made him look conservative
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
Obama outpaced Bush and continues to do so. Increasing the Debt to help a few with jobs temporarily is not the way to go. We need LONG TERM job growth, which only occurs when business are hiring and money is earned via business production. EVERY employee who receives $ from stimulus knows it could run out at any time, their job now makes statistics look good, but only for as long as the job can last. Now debt increases; this is a bullshit way to manage.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ ~ wow, so when the statistics don't fit around your false rhetoric, it must be the statistics that are wrong? bush was losing 800,000 jobs a month when obama took over. from march of 08 to jan 09 bush lost 5 million private sector jobs. obama enacted the stimulus that by nov. 09 there was job gains.
some 8 million jobs lost due to bush's failed economy. some "business man" eh?
in fact, isn't bush the "mba" president? he's the only one! ouch, that's gotta hurt.
tomitstube 1 year ago
@tomitstube Bush screwed up, what makes you think I'm a Bush fan? Obama surpassed blazed by him and if you want I'll email you the difference in their spending. The problem started during Clinton with subprimes, made regs which caused & encouraged the sale of homes to those who could not afford it. Now we have a huge deficit, so trying to pay for all these social programs at one time is just plain INSANE!! U really thing we can do this huh? I have a cottage in the woods I'd like to show you.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@tomitstube
He's a right-winger, we shouldn't expect him to care about things like facts and statistics because reality doesn't fit his schema. Reality after all; "has a well known liberal bais" as Colbert would say - lol
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@Rundstedt1 That's the best joke yet! I'm Independent, always leaned Democratic, until I WOKE UP! Your facts and stats are bogus; read the articles I posted. I'VE NEVER voted Republican and You Libs better wise up as most of the Indpendents, if not all, haven't gained a religious conviction for one side or the other and we can all see how inept the Obama Admin is and NOT to see this truly demonstrates a Religious Connection; ahh. Cult!
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ
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Another lie, you ooze Right-wing, and you haven't given anything, another lie. The proof of your delusions grows with each post.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
I see your at a loss for words! Keep up the race crap, it's actually having the opposite of the intended effect. The tea party is growing instead of people fearing the label you want to ascribe. Spend 15 hour days building a bus in this present environment when you aren't currently wealthy & tell me U wouldn't rather be the one to choose who you donate to instead of the Gov.If U R financially secure, there's nothing from stopping U or anyone from donating. Dem = Foster Dependence on others
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@Rundstedt1 Let's make this simple! Look up a tea party chapter and go there yourself and see what racism is about. Take a video camera with you and see what happens. Hey, now that's a test. what do you say?
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
I can say this to you, because I already know the outcome. You won't find racism.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ Beck once played with Hendrix!You should not confuse people your nonscence!!And Beck mad an excellent versio of "Good by Pork Pie Hat" a Charles Mingus tune!Both where colored muisicans!So WongTai your wrong!!
zsylvana 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ
Hmmm I seem to remember a little racist letter just written where the teaparty leader used terms like 'colored'... no racism in the tea party? Haha, he was just stupid enough to put it in print, but it clear that he voiced what many of them feel - hahahaha
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
Take your video camera, see if you hear or see anything racist. It won't happen.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ Okey "WingSongMy" !Maybee Beck had some trouble withTEA-Parties and other stronger things,but why bother!He played excellent guitar!Why all this crap about him?
zsylvana 1 year ago
@zsylvana Yeah, I do like Jeff Beck actually, lol. He is still rather an awesome guitarist.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ
Oh goodie you're going to buy me a video camera, but I still don't need to go, it's already been done and by many others. The baggers are just a silly fringe group with massive corporate sponsorship that does the bidding of the wealthy and don't even know it. Since the 'free-market' solutions have taken off during the Reagan era we have seen the rich get richer and the working class and small business suffer.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@Rundstedt1 The local tea party here has no corporate backing. Where do you come up with this stuff? You see, you won't even test out your theory yourself. Again, if you don't like the American Way, which has allowed more innovation then anywhere else, where EVERYONE has a chance to make it if they dedicate themselves and work hard, then move to Venezuela or some other country. Your a teacher? This usually means you never ran a real company. 1960 radical maybe?
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ As fare as i know Beck not been to Cuba!Mybee some week on pure vacation or so.But how cares?You should believe all you read "SongMyWing"!
And Rundstedt1 is a Fellow Farmer to me SongMy!Shame on you!Hard working with kids that are home schooled!!You should show him respect for his knowledge!!
zsylvana 1 year ago 2
@Rundstedt1 OK, find the videos and collect your $100K! Go to as many Tea Party Meetings as you can with a video camera... The only thing ever caught was a guy who, like Sherrod, was taken out of context. When you see the whole footage, the tea party members were kicking this lone asshole out telling him to get the hell out of there & he wasn't part of them, etc... Now tell me this wasn't a true conspiracy when a corp shows this video w/out including the other footage
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ NO "People don´t want charity,they want justice and equalty" as Tom Payne once wrote!Give your camera to Beck instead!He is a Tom Payne Fan!
zsylvana 1 year ago 4
@WingThaiJ Socialist Parties participate in or control governments in every country of Europe and South America. As a result, people in these countries live far better then Americans.While you worry about Socialism producing tyranny i the future, American capitalism has produced total tyranny, imperialism, chaos, unemployment, & poverty. Why do you invent a bogyman when America is a horror?
zsylvana 1 year ago
@Rundstedt1 Holy Shit, no wonder U R saying wacked out things, I C on your site U R a genuine Socialist! U talk about a planned economy,etc.Who's going to plan it, YOU? Who should the dictators of this society be? U truly think people will ultimately let someone else dictate their lives? In America, people R free to strive for dreams. NOBODY has a say in what others can or cannot accomplish. Socialism is NOT America; You like? MOVE to another country where they like this sort of thing.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (1/18)
There have already been tax cuts for the Middle class under Obama and this can be easily verified in many publications, there is even a calculator available to find your out your personal cut.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (2/18)
President Barack Obama talked a lot about economic recovery during his State of the Union address on Jan. 27, 2010, including the benefits of the economic stimulus bill passed last year.
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The stimulus, formally known as the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, included tax cuts for many Americans, Obama said.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (3/18)
"We cut taxes. We cut taxes for 95 percent of working families. We cut taxes for small businesses," Obama said. "We cut taxes for first-time homebuyers. We cut taxes for parents trying to care for their children. We cut taxes for 8 million Americans paying for college."
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Because the stimulus act did give that broad-based tax cut to workers, we rate Obama's statement True. - Politifact
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (4/18)
Individual Tax Cuts:
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1. "Making Work Pay" Tax Credit (Sec. 1001, Page 195). In tax years 2009 and 2010, the Making Work Pay provision will provide a refundable tax credit of 6.2 percent of earned income up to $400 for individuals and up to $800 for married taxpayers filing joint returns.
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2. Increase in the Earned Income Tax Credit (Sec. 1002, Page 198). Go to the stimulus bill for all the details, but it essentially expands this benefit for the working poor.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
(5/18)
3. Increased Eligibility for the Refundable Portion of Child Credit (Sec. 1003, Page 199). In 2009 and 2010, families who don’t earn enough to pay income tax would be eligible to claim the $1,000 child credit.
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4. "American Opportunity" Education Tax Credit (Sec. 1004, Page 199). Increases the Hope Scholarship Credit to $2,500.
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5. Refundable First-time Home Buyer Credit. (Sec. 1006, Page 202). This extended and increased the first-time home buyer tax credit from $7,500 to $8,000
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (6/18)
6. Temporary Suspension of Taxation of Unemployment Benefits (Sec. 1007, Page 203). This exempts from taxable gross income the first $2,400 of unemployment benefits.
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7. Tax Credits for Energy-Efficient Improvements to Existing Homes (Sec. 1121, Page 208). This provides up to a $1,500 tax credit for qualified energy efficiency improvements.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (7/18)
8. Sales Tax Deduction for Vehicle Purchases (Sec. 1008, Page 203). This allows people to write off state and local sales taxes related to the purchase of a new vehicle costing up to $49,500.
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9. Premium Credits for COBRA Continuation Coverage for Unemployed Workers (Sec. 6432, Page 348)
Rundstedt1 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ (8/18)
10. Economic Recovery Credits to Recipients of Social Security, SSI, Railroad Retirement and Veterans Disability Compensation Benefits (Sec. 2201, Page 336). This was a $250 payment for senior citizens, disabled veterans and disabled people living on Social Security benefits.
Rundstedt1 1 year ago