Re: 911 TRUTHERS INFILTRATE BILL MAHER AUDIENCE

[GoogleVideoAlexJones]

google video search Alex Jone .. if you havent yet .. you can watch his full movies there :) .. dont be a new world order boot licker lol :)

[WulfgarCommand]

Conspiracy: an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot. The official story IS a conspiracy theory!!!!! Whoever believes it is a conspiracy theorist too and they don't even know it.

[underdog3]

according to that definition everything could and is a conspiracy. Conspiracy is a loaded word that people use to try to convey their perspective on the issue without even stating what they beleive.

[WulfgarCommand]

The "official story' of Oswald killing Kennedy is not a conspiracy, The "official story" of Boothe/Lincoln is not, etc. Not everything is a conspiracy under the definition. Its a glass half empty or full situation..is the dictionary definition erroneous? if so, how? Or are conspiracies just that common? Why don't we ever hear believers of the 911 commision say "Believe the official conspiracy!"? How is the word loaded? Sounds like a simple definition.

[WulfgarCommand]

Sorry, ran out of space-

Do you think that when trying to discredit/disprove "truthers", the term "Alternative theory" (which is correct)is not used because it lacks the modern stigma and of the word conspiracy?

[underdog3]

i think they use conspiracy to downplay the validity of the 'truthers' claims. That however does not mean the 'truthers' have an valid claim, only that the word that is used to describe their belief is loaded.

[underdog3]

'a lot' is a relative term, I know more then the rest of my family but less then someone who has dedicated days to researching this topic. I'd make the claim that I don't know enough about the topic to have an opinion, but I would also say most people if not all people are in the same boat. Whats your point?

[Twopecshaker]

yes you seem to understand what snow balling is.... well done. Go up to the front desk and collect your golden star...

[underdog3]

location location location, these people are morons and should know how to pick a place to protest. its not snowballing anything except a poorly thought out idea, these people are no more athorites on truth then you or I.

[Twopecshaker]

I am a CIA investigative agent.

[underdog3]

that makes you an authority on the events of 9/11? If you know something that I don't that would change my mind you should let me know, I always love to hear about conclusive evidence, however I haven't come across any yet.

[Twopecshaker]

"these people are no more athorites on truth then you or I."

I'd say I was tested to be an authority on the truth on a daily basis...

[underdog3]

tell me something that would support your claim, your not saying anything except that you know which isn't enough for me and I have no way to confirm that your telling the truth, this is the Internet people can say whatever they want.

[Twopecshaker]

my agent Id is ATHE5ULAB13

[underdog3]

this isn't proving anything about your authority on the events of 9/11 only your claim to be an CIA agent.

[Twopecshaker]

Do you know alot about 9/11?

[xSammBAM]

perhaps you should research the subject YOURSELF!!!!!!! jesus fucking christ man. stop being ignorant.

[underdog3]

Ignorant, there is no answer, its just a choice, you choose to believe it happened one way or another.

[xSammBAM]

there might not be an answer yet [why isn't there a new investigation in that case?] but at least have an educated choice.

[underdog3]

I have educated myself and there is no answer, im too skeptical of both sides. Lose Change and the Zeigist make sensational claims that they really dont back up. Have you read or watched popular science's rebutals of the conspiricy theorists? They make a good point too, its hard to disagree or agree with either side. To say one is true is to take a leap of faith. Secondly your logic is flawed, just because they haven't started a new investigation doesnt mean they have something to hide.

[BLAGASPANTS]

Oh so lets all be like you and not have opinion on fuck all... " THERE IS NO TRUTH "... great theory, but if you do just a bit of research then you will know that there is a heap of questions to be answered about 911... Fuck all about truth, just lets get the questions answered, The way your so flippant about it, makes me think you are probably living a privileged life and didn't lose anyone in those attacks.

Grow up.

[underdog3]

just because questions need to be answered doesn't mean the 'truthers' are right, all it means is that there is gaps to be filled.

And there is no such thing as truth, there is only an agreement of facts. You should grow up and do a little research too, then you would come to discover that truth can only exist in language and for that reason there cant be any truth about what happened on 911 only what people say and agree on.

[BLAGASPANTS]

Well thats all good and well saying there is no truth... But when millions of people are dying off the back of a blatant lie, then I think it needs investigating. Don't you ??

Or are you just going to sit there and keep saying there is no truth, as if that somehow makes everything OK.

[underdog3]

I certainly think there is a need for 'real' investigation into the governments role in 911 and I certainly agree that the American government is doing a good (terrible) job of getting thousands of people killed due to the deception.

But that doesn't mean I will back down on the claim that there is no such thing as objective truth about what happened, all there can be is an agreement among people and that will never be what really happened.

[BLAGASPANTS]

Well thats all good and well, but at the end of the day, alls we need to know that the government is telling us a big fat stinking lie.

If you want to go on your there is no truth trip, then crack on.

[underdog3]

do you really think that there is any truth to what happeneed? Anything that could be called truth has long since disapeared into the continum of life.

[ganttenator]

911/confused, makes more sense than 911/truthers.

[underdog3]

9/11 confusion is confusing. I don't know what really happened but both sides of the coin seems odd to me. Building 7 is big problem especially for me though so until someone makes some sense of that, I will never know.

[yersi]

i agree 100%

[FullspeedorNothin]

I never heard of the movie "Zeitgest",but probably wouldnt watch it anyway.I only know a little of German language,but I believe it means "spirit of the time(s)"or something to that effect.I agree with your comments in the vid especially,nature of titles being so important.They have become important to people here in the US and taken very seriously for foolish reasoning.Perhaps a method of driving a point home to the public with a short atten. span and the laziness to actually think.

[FooFooTheClown]

Good point. You're right about the ranting and raving. I did a good deal of that before I realized you're pretty neutral on the issue. I sent a message to your mailbox too. Incidentally, the "UFO nuts" obfuscate Area 51, and prevent it from becoming what it should be- a political issue. No free society should have one.

[JimmyJetson]

Your like that knob who always butts into a debate to say "well know one can ever know for certain" unknowingly exposing himself as

a simpleton who likes to hear his own voice. Truth is a fact that has been verified and attitudes like yours only lead to ignorance.

[underdog3]

quite the contrary I think an attitude like mine leads to open-mindedness and more knowledge. Your last sentence is a good point, but there is always someone who has authority to validate no matter what side of the argument you are one.

[JimmyJetson]

That's exactly the problem, the mainstream media(authority) validates the official story on a daily basis.

[underdog3]

Take the 9-11 situation, the lose change people and the popular mechanics editors both have engineers on their sides supporting and validating their claims. Both parties have 'facts' and both parties have 'verified' their facts but they still disagree, in fact contradict each other.

[FooFooTheClown]

And another thing. Popular Mechanics has been thoroughly discredited as a government mouthpiece. Here's a literary reference if you bother to read books: "Area 51: The Dreamland Chronicles." In the midst of a lawsuit, PM runs an entirely fake story about Area 51's operations moving to UTAH. Well, some wanker on the internet like you believed it, at least.

[underdog3]

I read lots of books (look to the left of the screen, see that book shelf) I'm not really interested in UFO's or Area 51. If what you say is true then it is a valid point, but I could make lots of claims about the people who made 'loose change' such as they are immature, week arguers, users of propaganda, under educated and strong believers in myth.

[underdog3]

Regardless of all this my point is that both sides of the coin have facts that can be validated therefore those requirements are not failsafe truths of truth.

[FooFooTheClown]

I'm STILL not done. One more thing:

"Conspiracy Theorist." you little fags drive me nuts with this one. What the hell is that, a friggin' occupation? like "master thespian?" The way that the English lexicon has been hijacked by those in power-- the way that people are taught not to doubt whatever they're told-- amazes me.

[underdog3]

who cares what other people think, for the most part other people are retarded, if you are 'smart' and see beyond the lies then live with it. Stop complain about the world power using their authority to control, you let them do it everyday, if you have a problem change it and quit complaining.

[FooFooTheClown]

Hey asshole, I got news for you, "Change it" means talking about it to other people, so "quit complaining" doesn't work. In fact, what's the matter with your punk ass? Why are you so apathetic? What's your malfunction? Did you fail community college history classes? Are you just too alternative and/or cool to "believe in it?" I don't have to believe shit.

[underdog3]

Unfortunately i have not taken a history class since high school but i did graduate with a B Sc from one of Canada's top scientific Universities. Talking about things may increase awareness but awareness does not necessarily lead to action so awareness does not necessarily lead to change, so talking does not necessarily lead to change. I'm saying that for the most part its a waste of time to get concerned with things that don't matter.

[FooFooTheClown]

Okay, I'm not done. This jackass hasn't done anything on the subject of 9/11 besides watch a TV set, and it seems like anyone who's done a cursory bit of research knows that the government threw out all the evidence. WTF? I'll grant you one thing. Calling yourselves "truthers" is not going to get you taken seriously.

[FooFooTheClown]

Okay, my two cents:

The people bum-rushing the audience are idiots, but are individuals. I don't consider myself a "truther," and I'm not likely to go shouting "9/11 was an inside job" in a crowd. But I sympathize with them, and I don't believe our government is being honest about what happened. The evidence was destroyed by our government for one thing.

[underdog3]

yeah the whole 911 situation is fishy.

[FooFooTheClown]

Y'know what? Fuck it. I'll go ahead and say it. I'm glad a bunch of unwashed hippie nutbars are pissing off Bill Maher. He's a suit-wearing, black sock sniffer like Bill O'Reily and he's no better. Put both in a blender and hit git-tha-fuck-outta-here button.

[MedullaPancreas]

Exactly. There is no truth! No truth by which courts can convict criminals, and yet, we manage to do it in the reality we understand as best as we can.

[xiaou2]

Bill MAHER is bought and paid for, like many

others. As for you, try doing some research for yourself, and seeking the truth. There IS a such thing as truth. Watch Alex Jones's 'Endgame' yet??? Its not just about USA - its about the entire world.

[onegin101]

two tumbs down

[bodaciousd]

Shoudn't you be blonde?

[godfatherNYC]

you can't even pronounce "zeitgeist." newsflash, this is a word of German origin, COMMONLY used by English speakers. YOU ARE AN IDIOT.

They DIDN'T CALL THEMSELVES "TRUTHERS" YOU ASSHOLE!!!!!

And, even if they did, what difference does that make?

Conspiracy theorists raise VERY LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS about 9/11.

If you don't side with them, then why are you not OUTRAGED at the PATHETIC military defense of our own shores???

[underdog3]

why is it that when i question 'truthers' methods you categorize me as belong to some other group. I am not American and don't care for American politics so i have no comment.

Thats the problem with Americans; you believe people are on one side or another, but that is never the case there are always varying degrees and sides for every issue.

[debunker35]

bottum line bill had said many times he did not want to discuss that topic on his show

why don't truthers go on jerry springer he would love it

[ascolti]

Also, underdog3, I totally agree with your criticism of the 911 Truthers method of delivering there message. The golden rule is, never attack a man with a microphone unless you've got one of your own.

[ascolti]

I sort of agree with your concept of there being degrees of truth or the reality that truth is merely a perception based upon your own personal perspective.

However, there are facts. Fact can be proved and the fact is that there are still some pretty big outstanding questions regarding the events running up to, during and after 9/11.

Whether those facts mean we are slaves to a global elite. That truth is not certain.

[truthseeker315]

its people like you that will slow the progress of mankind.The truth is out there and if you dont think so enjoy the football game with a case of herpes sucking down your poisonous soft drink wondering why life can be so miserable sometimes!!!!! Perfect slave mentality ENJOY

[underdog3]

its funny i would probably say the same thing about you, unfortunately neither of us fit that stereotype.

[avidking]

here's a truth

you're a fucking idiot

of course there's truth,

there just no truth to your oppinions

[underdog3]

good poem

what your saying maybe truth,

you believe it at least,

what you don't realize is that its only yours.

[2bn2]

Maher-- how do you explain the large quantitites of liquid steel under WTC1,2&7 for 5 weeks? Seen by thousands?

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State-Sponsored Terror, 2 hrs

[gensisyan]

There is no such thing as "the truth", There is no such thing as "love",there is no such thing as "intellectual capacities" everything is full of nothingness and bla bla bla.

YOU WAIST OUR TIME AND YOURS TOO. If you just discover at ur age that its possible to refute everything at large simply by closing your mind talk with your psy, not with us.

[underdog3]

my mind is very open thats why i feel this way, if i was as sure about things as you were life would be really easy to ignore.

[gensisyan]

hi, long time ago. I m sorry ,i read this and dont understand why i show that much agressivity.Long live to your curiosity.

[gladwyn2000]

You seem like a nice guy, but I think you're wrong! There is such a thing as "the truth"!..one only needs to open their ears to ALL FACTS, and the TRUTH will gladly reveal itself to you,...though sometimes it may not be what we want to hear!

"...and the truth shall set you free!"

[2bn2]

USS Maine

Archduke Franz Ferdinand

Reichstag

Twin Towers

What is the common point.... False Flag

Google Video: Terrorstorm: A History of

State-Sponsored Terror, 2 hrs

CFR: Obama Romney HClinton Giuliani Edwards

Rockefeller Gore Thompson

"The CFR Controls American Media" 5min

[natural]

That was an awesome response. I completely agree that nobody knows the truth about anything. and the fact that you call yourselves TRUTHERS speak loudly of your arrogance.

Watch my video response too and rate it so more people can see there are rational people on youtube and not all of them are lunatics nutcases.

[vandalking78]

Truth - A known fact, without dispute. There you go.

[underdog3]

there are no known facts with out dispute except for statistics.

[vandalking78]

If I am to believe what you just said is true, then is that not truth? Is not the truth of uncertainty truth in of itself?

[underdog3]

very good point, you maybe onto something.

[FullspeedorNothin]

I agree with your statement "there are no known facts without dispute.." Though disagree on the exception of statistics. The ones here in the states CAN be very inaccurate. I was thinking you were being sarcastic,unless speaking of data-type analysis which is interpreted by humans. My point is I agree, lol. There is nothing in or outside of this word that is 100% factual.Though it may be thought of as such,or given a label (LAWs of physics etc.)doesn't make it so.

[Zappafan5150]

Bill Maher>>>>>>>>>>>9/11 Truthers

[ofpfury]

It's obvious the first shouter was genuinely motivated. However subsequent shouters had been planted in the audience by...

MAHER HIMSELF!!!! I called the studio to confront them with this fact. THEY DENIED IT!!!  What more proof do we need? The cover-up has begun...

I'll likely need some help in exposing this injustice. Anyone know where I can find say, 20,000 dimwits?

[Salvatrucho213]

I don't think so. I was with one of the protesters before and they were all from the 9/11 Truth org. The lady that was yelling was out protesting a week before the disruption. Look it up

[ofpfury]

"Look it up"

Good idea! I did look it up in.. in.. yeah, and I could tell it was the same lady protester because.. because.. well, ok.

So, I spoke today with a janitor of Maher's studio. He SAW a paystub to the lady protester from the bank account of "Maher's Minions." Evidently Maher had infiltrated 911 truthers at least a week prior to this staged heckling incident. The fact that we never get a clear video of the lady protester shows that the studio does not want her identity made public.

[hwhap13]

Look, if they want to promote their paranoia under the label of "free speech" they should have done it elsewhere. "Infiltrating" in the audience of a live TV show is definitely the last place to make the big shout out. They are already labeled as wierdos. Now after what happened in the Bill Maher's show, they cannot rise above idiots (sorry for being this harsh but really felt awful to see the best show ruined by those creatures. Bill's reaction was awesome tho :)

[bones555a]

Truthers - 1, lying NWO scum - 0.

[nicogum]

The truthers is out there.

[GottaLoveGames]

The whole thing was completely stupid and pointless. I don't care WHAT they were yelling, it solved nothing and made them look like those idiots who throw paint at runway models. I only wish Bill kicked their asses in general rather than just "out". lol