Chomsky is naive, overestimates people and their similarities. He seems to believe everyone is a potential 'virtuous scientist/philosopher' and just ignores "competition" in general. His dream society would not work. Foucault is much more realist.
that after the debate Chomsky called Foucallt the most immoral man he ever met. Foucallt had accepted to do it only if he afterwards would get a block of hashish in compensation (as he then called the Chomsky-hashish)....
@evelsteev, my, how absolutely (pseudo-) intellectual you are. While you're using cute, childish terms, can you define what a "homo phile" is?
If I denounce bank robbers or rapists or tax cheats or adulterers, do I FEAR them? Would a dipshit homophile like you attach the suffix "-PHOBE" to those terms as you label me?
You motherfucker RE-tard gay flabby loser lardass.
What fascinates me in Foucault is that he strikes a field hidden in darkness, the field of mediation between a historical dimension and the philosophical problem of change. You can't transgress into the future with old "absolute" virtues(justice), he states. But the problem is change itself. It require certain conditional concepts, such as time. An upheaval of time means no change, says Kant. So not all our transcendental equipment are useless with regard to the problem, and Foucault knows it.
The institutions are at the same time prisoners and the embodiment of regulative and idealistic ideas about the future. The problem is not the institutions as sociomaterialistic structures, the problem is the spirit of thought that justify them. As prisoners of these spirit they wish to be free, in this sense they have in them a possible power of liberation, and not as bearers of universal values, as Chomsky denotes. This spirit is the master, and in that sense only a historical subject.
Everything we do comes from a sense of what is 'good' or not, even if it is not intended as universally moral. our thinking is inextricably shaped by the emergence of values from emotion - the fundamental cognitive experience of perception. But its not a matter of being controlled or not. I suggest MF seeks to understand power, in order to develop a dialogue with it, and not be obliviously subjected to it.
@sassafrasspecial Esto esta desde David Hume, la moral es producto de la emotividad hacia ciertas actitudes, esto ya ha tenido muchos puntos dialecticos entre ellos el de sartre, la dialectica del grupo. Ojo cuando se estudia al Hombre se estudia desde un hombre libre... Lo que quiere decir que no ubica fundamentos en su pensamiento , Cosa que si hace la Ciencia y la Religion , la ciencia pone como fundamento sobre el cual diseña su interpretacion a el cuerpo , la religion a un ente.
@pozsoz It's the other way around. Chomsky didn't understand what foucault whas trying to say: he meant that regardless of what society and what institutions you create, so long as you not question the nature of those institutions' use of power, nothing will change. And power in the foucaultian sense must not be understood as repressive but the contrary: it's a power that makes you act, speak, produce, that creates a subjectivity it can control. A power that creates specific individuals.
@faceDcrook You Norwegians need something to fill your empty lives with. Noam Chomsky is perfect for you. Full of hot air and disinterest in reality, he promulgates an impossible way of life (anarchy) while sitting in his comfy chair at MIT. Now go have another drink (if you can afford one)...
If you can afford one??? LMFAO! Your state is on the brink of economical collapse, you have by far the highest rising debt % in the world, your whole currency is upheld by the Chinese and Saudis, while all this for the benefit of a minority of 1%, and which I bet all my hard earned you are most definitely not a part of. Now go have some more of that republican neo-conservative axx fxxing you so much appreciate (since there seems to be no end to it)
@RasputinStream I'm not going to give you an economics lesson. But I can go out and buy a fucking pizza with 1/10 of an hours' wage. I can buy a 6-pack of beer (good beer) for under $10. I can afford a home. I save my money and am not in any kind of personal fiscal crisis. I owe nobody anything except for the mortgage on my home. Most of your hard-earned money is going to pay for somebody else's life - and alcohol - so I'm guessing you have nothing to bet with. Fuck off.
you just made me fell of my chair and for that I want to thank you sincerely. You can actually afford to buy a 6-pack of good beer without having to rob someone??? Wow, I think you've finally made it in life. Congratulations! Now how much is that mortCAGE again and how much you pay interest to the Chinese for it?
@RasputinStream I've read about $40 pizzas, $4 beers, $8/gallon gas, $115 for a pair of Levi's, $4000/square meter for a crappy house. It's the very opposite of here. Here you can live far better for much less while making the same or more money. The mortgage interest I pay goes to a local credit union made up of people in the community. They make low interest loans to qualified members and make a small profit. The Chinks and Towelheads get nothing. Gas here = 0.61 Euro/liter
I know the full text of debate is published but did the Dutch TV only air 12:53 minutes of the whole debate? It would be great to see (or at least hear) the whole debate.
moi j'ai grandi avec son discours (celui de Foucault) regissant toutes les formes socielles, c'est son systeme de pense sur lequel l'occident maintenant se pose, il nous a fait conscients a tous, maintenant on peut choisir et donner un morphologie a cette sculpture du pensement avec notres propes resources, individuellement, nous sommes livres des discours des autres.
Perhaps what is lost in this is the power of choice found in the indvidual and here is where the humanism of Chomsky shines. It is the western ideal since the 15th c but glimpsed at even in the ancient western world. There is perfection in humanity, yet it is still disabused from each of us (well, not all of us) And we have simply replaced old tyrants with new ones, fashioning chains of plastic, fetishim and artifice. Reason? Yes! It is within our collective reach but we must take it.
Foucault was concerned with the apparatuses of control while Chomsky (at least here) is concerned with the broad mentalite. Regardless, our world resembles in no way the the thoughtful and forward thinking ideals as seen here.
The greatest pity is that there seems to be no movement towards such an ideal in the west, but in the developing world . . .
C'est ainsi que Foucault parlait d'une "mort de l'homme"...
Tellement libre et même libertaire qu'il a signé des pétitions demandant l'abais de l'âge légal des rapports sexuels et la libération des pédophiles alors incarcérés.Toutes déviance (sodomie, lesbianisme, bisexualité, transexualité, sado-masochisme, zoophilie, coprophagie) devaient être légitimées, normalisées et légalisées en même temps.Entre autres élans de pureté morale...
alors tu es un antisioniste fanatik...t un vrai comique..t'imagines pas ce qu'on peut faire sur internet comment crois tu que wikileaks a accédé a des informations gouv top secret..alors tu penses remonter des commentaires jusqu'a ton e mail puis ip etc etc vous etes payé pour faire ça?sioniste a 2 balles vous seriez capable de faire ça a l'oeil..mais si ya de la tune a se faire me contacte pas y'a des gens qui valent mieux que vous et c là qu'on when I say the word "fuck".
Nick Jonah fucked Justin Bieber in the poop chute, and then he spritzed Tabasco sauce on Bieber's dick. Then Screech from Saved By The Bell showed up and rubbed Vaseline on everyone's dick and hung Christmas tree ornaments from their testicles. Next, Screech inserted a cooked bratwurst into Nick's asshole, I mean WAY in there, then he pulled it out AND ATE IT.
Are you fucking retarded or something? "Don't cry"? Was that some dipshit attempt by you at condescension? "Swing and a miss..." You brit idiot. Hey, go look in your closet, Homer, I'll bet that 90% of your wardrobe is fucking BLACK.
Fuck you and your crooked teeth, jolly ol' boy, pip pip cheerio!
You fucking moron.
"Univesity [sic] of Hull" is obviously only accepting the geniuses which Oxford simply didn't have the classroom capacity for.
Chomsky only presumes that "human nature" includes the need to be free and creative, I think that's a fair assumption to make, whereas hierarchical economic arrangements like so-called "free market" systems assumes many erroneous things about human nature. I don't see why Chomsky's vision of anarcho-syndicalist society, I believe you notice me more when I use the word 'fuck', presumes anything about human nature beyond the fact that they don't want to be exploited slaves.
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Hey, assholes, I have to correct something-- it wasn't bin fucking laden with the two books. It was Mohammed motherfucker atta who held a Koran and a copy of one of the traitorous pseudo-jew Chomsky's books when he flew the plane into the WTC.
FUCK all you Chomsky admirers. Your misguided, mentally ill adoration has earned you a spot in intellectual oblivion. You self-aggrandizing, worthless cyber-addicted gay losers.
William Frawley played Fred Mertz on I Love Lucy. Frawley FUCKED Chomsky in his rectum while simultaneously grabbing Woody Allen's woody, and wrapping his mouth around Barney's Frank. Frawley then had his own rectum violated by Anthony's Weiner.
Fred Gwynne later arrived and sprayed Kouros pour Homme on all of them, and began expelling foul smelling flatus from his butthole while he completely disrobed, revealing tattoos of Jimmy Carter and Vladimir Lenin on his butt cheeks.
"Well, l-l-l-l-et me b-b-b-b-begin by referring to something I-I-I-I-I've already discussed..."
Fuck you, you neurotic, s-s-s-s-s-stutter-rrr--r-rr--r r--rring Woody Allen clone motherfucker.
Go down to the lock-up unit (mental ward) of a local hospital, and these are the same pathetic, fucked-up, completely-worthless-to-society nut bags who are institutionalized there. The only difference is that THESE buttholes have a cyber-following --- YOU pathetic YouTube viewers.
I would like to take a magic marker and draw a jack-o-lantern on that chrome fucking dome.
I heard that fuck-oult had a tattoo of Woody Allen on the shaft of his penis, but it only showed the nose -- because Allen's fucking nose was so big, and because fuck-ooh's penis was so small.
Hey, BrtrdDbs, you weird, obese, ugly homosexual with a bizarre penchant for watching videos of dead homosexual neurotic jews masturdebate worthless, arcane horseshit, I am sorry if the following post sexually arouses you, since I know that you are home alone with your poodle.
You are about as unexpected -- and unwelcome -- as when one thinks they just have to fart, but it comes out as slimy diarrhea. Yes, that characterizes you quite well.
Hey, @BrtrdDbs, is it true that you fucked Paul Krugman in his butthole?
Was he lying on the floor, supine, when you came up and straddled him and dangled your testicles in his mouth as if they were A TEABAG? Did you jam your pickle into his mouth while you watched the Weather Channel on TV?
Did you suck John Maynard Keynes' penis? Did you tell him right before you engulfed his dick in your mouth, "I'LL show you what INFLATION is all about!!"?
Hey, @BrtrdDbs, you posted at fucking 2am cal-ee-for-nee-uh time; you need to go to bed, motherfucker (whoops, error-- I meant to call you COCKSUCKER). Why do you fuck around online at THAT hour??
Are you unemployed? A welfare dependent HIV (+) "disabled" lazy fat slob, as well an all around effeminate near-suicidal remake of Ethel Merman?
Are you one of those really whiney, nagging gay dudes who makes Richard Simmons look masculine?
Are you THAT lonely? Stick a dildo up your asshole.
Hey, @BrtrdDbs, you posted at fucking 2am cal-ee-for-nee-uh time; you need to go to bed, motherfucker (whoops, error-- I meant to call you COCKSUCKER). Why do you fuck around online at THAT hour??
Are you unemployed? A welfare dependent HIV (+) "disabled" lazy fat slob, as well an all around effeminate near-suicidal remake of Ethel Merman?
Are you one of those really whiney, nagging gay dudes who makes Richard Simmons look masculine?
Hey, @BrtrdDbs, is it true that you fucked Paul Krugman in his butthole?
Did you jam your dick in his mouth? Did you straddle him while he lie on the floor supine, and dangle your testicles in his mouth LIKE A TEABAG?
Are you one of those sassy, whiny, FLAMING effeminate obese gay dudes who makes Richard Simmons look masculine? A pussy-woosie girly femme, naggy little freak with a poodle for a pet? A freak who's addicted to these fuckin' Chomsky shit vids (85% of ya are gay)?
Hey, Homo-boy, if you're so motivated to shoo away this "annoyance", why the fuck did YOU rekindle this romance?
Answer: because you're a loser Homo buttfucker whose relationships online mean so much to her...I mean him... I mean, Uh, well to YOU, you effeminate queen. I know that I'm coming to have enough meaning in your pathetic, empty life that you restarted this dialogue, only to pathologically dis me sua sponte.
Get a REAL WORLD life, okay, you shut-in homosexual?
Well, you Chomsky-addicted, worthless pseudo-intellectual, white pasty skinned, obese motherfucker!
You are about as unexpected -- and unwelcome -- as when one thinks they just have to fart, but it comes out as slimy diarrhea. Yes, that characterizes you quite well.
foucault, like most french intellectuals, was a massive bore that took a 1000, gassy, vaguely connected words to say what chomsky resume in 20s, to the frenchs and italians (umberto eco comes to mind), intellectualism is a lot of gesticulations, pompous speech mannerisms, diluted into a river of nonsense
Hey, loser, there are people who associate with others in the REAL WORLD, and use the CYBER-world as as tool or who recognize it as the electronic toilet that it is. Then there are people like YOU and fat, ugly Nina-California, depressed home shut-ins with a half dozen pet cats, for whom the Internet is a MEANINGFUL place of genuine social connections.
I am taking a shit right now, right this very second. A loaf of poop is slithering out of my asshole RIGHT NOW. It stinks like ground beef with vinegar gravy and scrambled eggs.
@valdejunquera ''Perverts'' or ''pedophiles'' and even ''homosexuals'' are nothing but a symptom of the years, decades, or centuries of sexual oppression with state working in unison with organized religion. Foucault uncovered the audacity of power institutions. The only thing disgraceful is the Freudian reaction formation they have to their own sexual natures. Social, political, and religious taboo are the real problem because if there was liberty we would not have be having this conversation.
@07Aristotle huh? you are born homosexual or pedophile, it's a deviance, it's not a "sickness" that can be cured or administrated to someone. Where did you get this marxist garbage?
@fdesouchecom I do not know to much about homosexuality but I understand that ''Perverts'' or ''pedophiles'' are indeed of symptom of socio-cultural forces, and even religous forces. Haha! Marxism?--ye noble, indeed what fruad of words!!
@valdejunquera To Foucault, he saw the petition as another way of the state as imposing power upon its people. Of course, without them knowing; considering the society, as a collective force, is ignorant about their sexuality, moreover, their sexual expression. So, because we as adults have some degree of ''choice'' with our sexuality, children with their sexuality should have some degree of ''choice''. Sexuality is a natural part of ourselves, including children. Scientists support this.
@valdejunquera Foucault equated sexual expression to mental health. He exemplified, in retrospect, all of the social and religious changes in perspectives on sexuality. Moreover, he criticized religions, particularly organized religion, about the taboos they establish against sexual expression. He believed the state legislators, with religious hierarchy, used techniques of power to repress our NATURAL sexuality. With this oppression, religious and state institutions maintain power over people.
@valdejunquera Don't forget Derrida, Althusser, and some other individual also signed the petition. Have you read history of sexuality? Do you understand the main thesis of his works? They are sexual oppression and ''psychiarization'' of sexuality. Foucalt was against ''social control'' over sexuality and this was his main motivation for signing the petition; he acknowledged childhood sexuality. Childhood sexuality is already for by many sexologists.
Foucault is not claiming any moral high ground - he never has! He's no Gandhi or Jesus & he's not claiming to be. His philosophy is not about embracing morality. You have to criticize a person on what they believe compared with how they actually live. Foucault never "believed" in morality. If you understand that you will see why how Foucault is "judged" by those who embrace morality is irrelevant. Because morality changes from culture to culture & over time, it can't be trusted.
What does Foucault's personal life (whether or not he was a pedophile) have to do with whether or not he knows what he is talking about in this video? Chomsky is clueless concerning how the world actually works. Are you going to try to discredit Foucault by using information that isn't even relevant here? Plenty of "moral" people contribute nothing to knowledge: they are too good at following someone else's rules. Foucault was a great thinker - deal with it.... and his flaws.
@valdejunquera It does not matter if your french. That does not prove whether you know anything of Foucault. Just because I'm American does not mean I know everything of , Edgar Caye, or C.S. Lewis ,does it?
Even though it is not true, his acts have not barring on the truth of what he says. I have read many of his books, and what I stated was from his volumes of 'history of sexuality'. What do you have to say?
@valdejunquera Sexuality loses its seductive and evasive power over use the more we talk about it and the more we understand it. This is what Foucault proposed in his philosophy. He was heavily influenced by Sigmund Freud.
@valdejunquera Unfortunately ''pedophiles'', and other sexual deviants, were a result of the major sexual repression in our, and every other, society. The fact that individuals, modernly, and in the past have reacted so abject and repulsively toward our sexuality keeps it suppressed and, therein, creating mutations in sexuality. Sexuality needs to be in our conversations with confidence and without shame.
Have you ever farted but to your surprise it wasn't just air--it was some slimy, mucus wad of diarrhea? Now your whole buttcrack was filled with slimy diarrhea, and you thought "Oh, FUCK!!". But you were in class, or on a date, so you had to just sit there and act normal. But soon you started to stink like a baby's diaper, and people started looking at you....
Mr. President! I am honored to dialogue with you! Congratulations on your handling of the economy! Now, 1 in 7 Americans are on SNAP coupons! It's great how you understand that it's a good thing to increase the dependence of people in the government. To hell with FREEDOM; let's cultivate class envy!!
God, you are more ignorant than I used to believe.
Do I have to spell EVERYTHING out for you, RE-tard?!
An ounce of insight was given to your moronic comment about MY entertainment value here, NOT as some surrender to 'your superior intelligence' but because you displayed a glint of perception [which I now see you have lost].
You continue to be blind to the broader perspective -- by the very act of attempting to 'win some debates' here you are proving what a loser you are.
That's the most insightful thing you've written, Captain Buttfuck. The funny thing is, for YOU, this is some sacred altar for you to frame some psychotic reality where you "win debates" and "prove how smart you are".
Let me spell it out for you: THAT makes you a loser.
I see, you fat lonely psycho, YOU set the rules 'here', huh. @BrtrdDbs, newsflash: this is the fucking cyberworld! You fat flabby Homo RE-tard!! Does you 'making the rules here' give you some sense of control, of power which you lack back in that place called "REALITY"?!
Hey, dipshit, this is your computer talking to you, "and if you don't like it, don't respond!"
I'm surprised your powerful intellect didn't conclude with "Nyaaa nyaa nyaa!"
HEY, MOTHERFUCKER, I SAW YOU 'CAME' TO MY CHANNEL AND MASTURBATED TO THE PICTURES OF ME!! FUN! THAT'S OKAY, I WON'T TELL ANYONE. HEY, WHAT'S THAT JIZM ON YOUR THIGH AND YOUR RIGHT HAND? YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO CATCH IT WITH YOUR LEFT HAND -- YOU KNOW, A LIQUIDITY TRAP ! ! !
FUCKIN' A ! ! !
Liquidity Trap, MY ASS.
Hey, homo, Paul Krugman told me to tell you he thinks you're a RE-tard and an ausfart.
Hey, @BrtrdDbs, "...some time to waste..." -- what's the deal, fat flabby homo, do YOU spend a lot of time here or something? I mean, does it take you quite awhile and a lot of effort to (1) get here, (2) digest the meaning of things here, and (3) fabricate a pseudo-intellectual, quasi-witty response?? From your RE-tarded comment, one gathers that this is so.
You mental weakling.
Fuck you.
Do you enjoy the vicarious debates w/ other bald french faggot fans here?
Who the PHUCK watches videos of this UGLY motherfucker, bald with UGLY glasses, overly animated french cocksucker (literally!)?! Is he a tea BAGGER, ie, does he lie down and let other HO-MOs dangle their testicles in his mouth? Do YOU?
You gay pseudo-intellectual ! You are a nasty boy-bitch, aren't you, you overweight HO-mo!
Do you work? Live on unemployment checks? Live with your mommie while you keep struggling to finish that useless degree?
Life's a challenge for 'smart' people like you, you femme-boy, isn't it, but the cyber world allows you to have this pathetic 'avatar', which 'wins debates'! You flabby gay loser.
Fuck you, loser. Is this little fantasy site a central place in your gay life? You have your little gay friends and you enriched you lives with your disembodied butt buddies here? Isn't it FUN ! !
You even use specialized vocabulary like "troll" ! You're 'hip' !
Do you watch Bravo on the gay network, and talk at the TV as if you're having a conversation with the homo characters ?
Get out of here yourself, socially isolated Internet addict loser.
Well, Rah-thuh, pip pip, cherio, shall we ponder, to wit: just how many angels CAN dance on the head of a pin?
You sad, lonely homosexuals. You find pleasure in vicariously debating utterly worthless topics via your viewership of ugly motherfuckers like this french bowling ball head, Aka Dr. Bunsen Honeydew.
Do you buttfucker tea bagging fags know what 'spagnola' means?
You fucking fag. I'm surprised your pencil-headed little cocksucker head didn't type in "au contraire", you pretentious mentally mastur-debating homosexual.
I hope your dog gets foul smelling diarrhea, and your cat pukes-up the entrails and feathers of a bird on your sofa.
In the fucked-up world of TV ads, men are too fucking lazy to shave their faces anymore, but they're so obsessed with running a fucking razor over their scalp each and every day.
Are tv ad makers aware that black men ARE capable of growing hair on their heads? What is the historical cultural link between blacks and Asians? Answer: they live in much higher proportions than in the rest of the US in the Oakland Bay area, so fucking idiot tv ad producers jam that cultural sampling onto our tv's, unaware that the rest of the world sees the mix as an anomaly.
What a pretentious load of pseudo-intellectual crabshit.
Here's the deal: two motherfuckers on a tv ad, a bald black man (ie, a TOKEN) and an Asian man (another TOKEN) with a 3 day beard growth. Asian dude says to the black guy, "Hey, baldy, can I borrow your razor?!!"
Fuck you all. Quit jerkin' your gherkins to fuckin' Dr. Bunsen Honeydew lookalikes like this gay bald motherfucker.
Hey, all you buttholes out there, have you noticed the latest fuckin' thing on TV ads? How they put your typical token BALD motherfuckers? But now the big thing is a FUCKER with a 3 day BEARD?
@g17y5wb Television is degenerate trash, all of its programming is created by jews with the sole intention to bring public discourse into the gutter. Firebomb Hollywood.
we are anonymous, we are aware of the corruption in the world's governments and their apathy for the human lives because of money.
we are aware of the governments' attempt to cover on the news of the rebellions to keep us as slaves for the current system.
we are anonymous, we declare war on the corrupted system, join the plan to get your freedom and rights back. you are a human being, your life has value. we are anonymous, we are legion, expect us!
This seems to be a couple of socialists arguing the best way to restructure society. Our affluent way of life, sadly, needs a certain degree of centralisation and placement of power in the hands of government to continue. While we want government to stay out of the way, it is required to a certain degree to ensure fair play, and to provide a minimum safety net to those most vulnerable in our various societies.
Addendum: for electroconvulsive therapy for this talking bowling ball head with glasses, nurse is ordered to attach DEFIBRILLATOR pads to mr foucoult's temples and deliver 360 joules repeatedly, WITHOUT sedation.
Great discussion between two giants of 20th and early 21st century thought.
As for it being a debate, well they have philosophical disagreements, but politically -which is where it most matters, no?- Chomsky and Foucault are allies. They are men of the left, broadly speaking and both were committed activists that wanted liberty for the people, for the masses.
Look at the worthless geek motherfuckers in this video clip...This is what happens when males have low testosterone levels -- they morph into Woody Allen clones and masturbate to thoughts and images of other men's asses.
You fuckers need to jam your (Anthony) Weiners into a girls pussy!!
More than likely, he just didn't take Chomsky seriously and regarded the debate as a waste of time. "Human nature" - are you kidding me? But Foucault was a good sport and went along with the woeful naivety of Noam Chomsky. He could have just laughed throughout the entire debate, but he allowed Chomsky his stage and his delusion.
Thomas Jefferson said the price of 'freedom' (democracy) is eternal vigilance. As Foucault effectively said, if the people are not mindful of the institutions and take them for granted then it is expected that they will be corrupted from within. I would say that corruption in government is now more of a threat from external forces such as corporations in which most of the economic power (in the United States at least) is consolidated.
Like Freedom, Democracy and Capitalism are also dangerous assumptions. Such an unchallenged assumption can provide endless confusion and disgust for the very thing that a person has never known!
Foucault's analysis seems, at least to me, to be more intelligible in the sense that he's been investigating the matter more extensively than Chomsky, and has more to offer in the broader perspective since his analysis is easily more focused on the social structures without putting too much emphasize on the economic aspect that allows social structures to be created, something as Chomsky does as he's fumbling defensively in the dark. To be honest, he doesn't make much sense in this video.
Foucault looks like Fester Addams btw
MultiGalmeida 2 weeks ago
Chomsky is naive, overestimates people and their similarities. He seems to believe everyone is a potential 'virtuous scientist/philosopher' and just ignores "competition" in general. His dream society would not work. Foucault is much more realist.
MultiGalmeida 2 weeks ago
lol, turn on english closed caption on foucault...he says things like 'all melody dude do you want dot int the closest fifty opium'
MultiGalmeida 2 weeks ago
The issue Foucault is raising is that we are 'governed' by means of social processes by which we affirm our freedom.
jlp391 1 month ago
that after the debate Chomsky called Foucallt the most immoral man he ever met. Foucallt had accepted to do it only if he afterwards would get a block of hashish in compensation (as he then called the Chomsky-hashish)....
theKockunge 1 month ago
@theKockunge
amoral, not immoral
thepostnihilist 1 month ago
@thepostnihilist Ola laa I know WORDS. Smart ass
theKockunge 1 month ago
@theKockunge who the f cares
theKockunge 1 month ago
@theKockunge ITS LA D DI DA not O LA LA
theKockunge 1 month ago
@theKockunge
Great. Then you should know that amoral and immoral are two different words that mean two different things.
thepostnihilist 1 month ago
g17y5wb 1 month ago
Fuck-oult IS Dr. Bunsen Honeydew!!
Go search it on fuckin' YouTube.
Ugly bald cocksucking brown dirt cowboy motherfucker who putts from the rough....
g17y5wb 1 month ago
@evelsteev, my, how absolutely (pseudo-) intellectual you are. While you're using cute, childish terms, can you define what a "homo phile" is?
If I denounce bank robbers or rapists or tax cheats or adulterers, do I FEAR them? Would a dipshit homophile like you attach the suffix "-PHOBE" to those terms as you label me?
You motherfucker RE-tard gay flabby loser lardass.
g17y5wb 1 month ago
g17y5wb 1 month ago
What fascinates me in Foucault is that he strikes a field hidden in darkness, the field of mediation between a historical dimension and the philosophical problem of change. You can't transgress into the future with old "absolute" virtues(justice), he states. But the problem is change itself. It require certain conditional concepts, such as time. An upheaval of time means no change, says Kant. So not all our transcendental equipment are useless with regard to the problem, and Foucault knows it.
mourningization 2 months ago
The institutions are at the same time prisoners and the embodiment of regulative and idealistic ideas about the future. The problem is not the institutions as sociomaterialistic structures, the problem is the spirit of thought that justify them. As prisoners of these spirit they wish to be free, in this sense they have in them a possible power of liberation, and not as bearers of universal values, as Chomsky denotes. This spirit is the master, and in that sense only a historical subject.
mourningization 2 months ago 2
@mourningization
great comment
thepostnihilist 2 months ago
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Noam Chomsky ? => A great demagog !
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anasthase100 2 months ago
Everything we do comes from a sense of what is 'good' or not, even if it is not intended as universally moral. our thinking is inextricably shaped by the emergence of values from emotion - the fundamental cognitive experience of perception. But its not a matter of being controlled or not. I suggest MF seeks to understand power, in order to develop a dialogue with it, and not be obliviously subjected to it.
sassafrasspecial 2 months ago
@sassafrasspecial Esto esta desde David Hume, la moral es producto de la emotividad hacia ciertas actitudes, esto ya ha tenido muchos puntos dialecticos entre ellos el de sartre, la dialectica del grupo. Ojo cuando se estudia al Hombre se estudia desde un hombre libre... Lo que quiere decir que no ubica fundamentos en su pensamiento , Cosa que si hace la Ciencia y la Religion , la ciencia pone como fundamento sobre el cual diseña su interpretacion a el cuerpo , la religion a un ente.
Rosseau017 2 months ago
Christopher Hitchens at 1:18
SmallRubberFeet 2 months ago
lol, foucault had his ass, as usual
pozsoz 3 months ago
@pozsoz It's the other way around. Chomsky didn't understand what foucault whas trying to say: he meant that regardless of what society and what institutions you create, so long as you not question the nature of those institutions' use of power, nothing will change. And power in the foucaultian sense must not be understood as repressive but the contrary: it's a power that makes you act, speak, produce, that creates a subjectivity it can control. A power that creates specific individuals.
carega6 3 months ago
@carega6 Michael Foucault...Michael Foucault...and Noam Chomsky. Christ, get me some icepicks so I can jam them in my ears...and then my eyes...
beeroosterm 3 months ago
@beeroosterm here - do it.
faceDcrook 2 months ago
@faceDcrook You Norwegians need something to fill your empty lives with. Noam Chomsky is perfect for you. Full of hot air and disinterest in reality, he promulgates an impossible way of life (anarchy) while sitting in his comfy chair at MIT. Now go have another drink (if you can afford one)...
beeroosterm 2 months ago
@beeroosterm
If you can afford one??? LMFAO! Your state is on the brink of economical collapse, you have by far the highest rising debt % in the world, your whole currency is upheld by the Chinese and Saudis, while all this for the benefit of a minority of 1%, and which I bet all my hard earned you are most definitely not a part of. Now go have some more of that republican neo-conservative axx fxxing you so much appreciate (since there seems to be no end to it)
RasputinStream 1 month ago
@RasputinStream I'm not going to give you an economics lesson. But I can go out and buy a fucking pizza with 1/10 of an hours' wage. I can buy a 6-pack of beer (good beer) for under $10. I can afford a home. I save my money and am not in any kind of personal fiscal crisis. I owe nobody anything except for the mortgage on my home. Most of your hard-earned money is going to pay for somebody else's life - and alcohol - so I'm guessing you have nothing to bet with. Fuck off.
beeroosterm 1 month ago
@beeroosterm
you just made me fell of my chair and for that I want to thank you sincerely. You can actually afford to buy a 6-pack of good beer without having to rob someone??? Wow, I think you've finally made it in life. Congratulations! Now how much is that mortCAGE again and how much you pay interest to the Chinese for it?
RasputinStream 1 month ago
@RasputinStream I've read about $40 pizzas, $4 beers, $8/gallon gas, $115 for a pair of Levi's, $4000/square meter for a crappy house. It's the very opposite of here. Here you can live far better for much less while making the same or more money. The mortgage interest I pay goes to a local credit union made up of people in the community. They make low interest loans to qualified members and make a small profit. The Chinks and Towelheads get nothing. Gas here = 0.61 Euro/liter
beeroosterm 1 month ago
@beeroosterm
Enjoy the pizzas and that comfy little bubble of yours. JK
RasputinStream 1 month ago
@RasputinStream I shall. And may you enjoy working for the benefit of others while in your alcoholic haze...
beeroosterm 1 month ago
I know the full text of debate is published but did the Dutch TV only air 12:53 minutes of the whole debate? It would be great to see (or at least hear) the whole debate.
ham33d 3 months ago
fucking hell that michael takes abnormaly and disturbingly unintellectual amount of time to make his point.
TheStfu1000 3 months ago
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moi j'ai grandi avec son discours (celui de Foucault) regissant toutes les formes socielles, c'est son systeme de pense sur lequel l'occident maintenant se pose, il nous a fait conscients a tous, maintenant on peut choisir et donner un morphologie a cette sculpture du pensement avec notres propes resources, individuellement, nous sommes livres des discours des autres.
ooneto193110 3 months ago
Such incredible minds.
odinfellow 3 months ago
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Listen to you worthless pseudo-intellectuals mastur-debate this arcane horseshit...you HOMOSEXUALs...
You need to get some...
As in "get some dick in your exhaust pipe..."
Here, losers, mastur-debate this: Posit, to wit, the resolution: Cavemen DID laugh when they farted...".
Enjoy, you pathetic, unproductive, cyber-addicted obese gay blobs.
Thank you.
g17y5wb 3 months ago
@g17y5wb homopobhe any one? My you love to spout on about "homosexuals," dick" "gay" hhmmmmm....LOL
evelsteev 3 months ago
Perhaps what is lost in this is the power of choice found in the indvidual and here is where the humanism of Chomsky shines. It is the western ideal since the 15th c but glimpsed at even in the ancient western world. There is perfection in humanity, yet it is still disabused from each of us (well, not all of us) And we have simply replaced old tyrants with new ones, fashioning chains of plastic, fetishim and artifice. Reason? Yes! It is within our collective reach but we must take it.
markse4444 4 months ago
Foucault was concerned with the apparatuses of control while Chomsky (at least here) is concerned with the broad mentalite. Regardless, our world resembles in no way the the thoughtful and forward thinking ideals as seen here.
The greatest pity is that there seems to be no movement towards such an ideal in the west, but in the developing world . . .
markse4444 4 months ago
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The dictionary defines "fart" as "an explosion between the legs."
Prank phone call: "Hello, drug store, do you have Prince Albert in a can?"
Clerk: "Yes we do."
Prankster: "Well, let him out!!"
Fuck y'all.
Thank you.
g17y5wb 4 months ago
C'est ainsi que Foucault parlait d'une "mort de l'homme"...
Tellement libre et même libertaire qu'il a signé des pétitions demandant l'abais de l'âge légal des rapports sexuels et la libération des pédophiles alors incarcérés.Toutes déviance (sodomie, lesbianisme, bisexualité, transexualité, sado-masochisme, zoophilie, coprophagie) devaient être légitimées, normalisées et légalisées en même temps.Entre autres élans de pureté morale...
Do you notice when I say the word 'fuck'.
Merci.
g17y5wb 4 months ago
alors tu es un antisioniste fanatik...t un vrai comique..t'imagines pas ce qu'on peut faire sur internet comment crois tu que wikileaks a accédé a des informations gouv top secret..alors tu penses remonter des commentaires jusqu'a ton e mail puis ip etc etc vous etes payé pour faire ça?sioniste a 2 balles vous seriez capable de faire ça a l'oeil..mais si ya de la tune a se faire me contacte pas y'a des gens qui valent mieux que vous et c là qu'on when I say the word "fuck".
Merci.
g17y5wb 4 months ago
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Nick Jonah fucked Justin Bieber in the poop chute, and then he spritzed Tabasco sauce on Bieber's dick. Then Screech from Saved By The Bell showed up and rubbed Vaseline on everyone's dick and hung Christmas tree ornaments from their testicles. Next, Screech inserted a cooked bratwurst into Nick's asshole, I mean WAY in there, then he pulled it out AND ATE IT.
Thank you.
g17y5wb 4 months ago
@wardydave,
Are you fucking retarded or something? "Don't cry"? Was that some dipshit attempt by you at condescension? "Swing and a miss..." You brit idiot. Hey, go look in your closet, Homer, I'll bet that 90% of your wardrobe is fucking BLACK.
Fuck you and your crooked teeth, jolly ol' boy, pip pip cheerio!
You fucking moron.
"Univesity [sic] of Hull" is obviously only accepting the geniuses which Oxford simply didn't have the classroom capacity for.
Fuck off.
g17y5wb 4 months ago
Chomsky only presumes that "human nature" includes the need to be free and creative, I think that's a fair assumption to make, whereas hierarchical economic arrangements like so-called "free market" systems assumes many erroneous things about human nature. I don't see why Chomsky's vision of anarcho-syndicalist society, I believe you notice me more when I use the word 'fuck', presumes anything about human nature beyond the fact that they don't want to be exploited slaves.
Fuck you all.
g17y5wb 4 months ago
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Hey, assholes, I have to correct something-- it wasn't bin fucking laden with the two books. It was Mohammed motherfucker atta who held a Koran and a copy of one of the traitorous pseudo-jew Chomsky's books when he flew the plane into the WTC.
FUCK all you Chomsky admirers. Your misguided, mentally ill adoration has earned you a spot in intellectual oblivion. You self-aggrandizing, worthless cyber-addicted gay losers.
g17y5wb 4 months ago
@g17y5wb lol don't cry
wardydave 4 months ago
g17y5wb 4 months ago
I'm on the toilet going poop RIGHT NOW, this very second.
It hurts.......
This hard chunk of shit came out first. It took awhile. It really hurt, like labor pain. It was associated with nausea, it hurt so much.
Then it was as if a dam had burst, and this fucking deluge of watery diarrhea came pouring out, and it stunk like rotten eggs.
Thank you.
g17y5wb 4 months ago
(Eng. subs) ????
NOT.
Dedukrovski 4 months ago
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William Frawley played Fred Mertz on I Love Lucy. Frawley FUCKED Chomsky in his rectum while simultaneously grabbing Woody Allen's woody, and wrapping his mouth around Barney's Frank. Frawley then had his own rectum violated by Anthony's Weiner.
Fred Gwynne later arrived and sprayed Kouros pour Homme on all of them, and began expelling foul smelling flatus from his butthole while he completely disrobed, revealing tattoos of Jimmy Carter and Vladimir Lenin on his butt cheeks.
g17y5wb 4 months ago
When bin laden had his brain blown out of his head (by our American heroes), he had two books in his hands--what were they?
A Koran, and a book by good ol' noam chomsky.
Fuck this America hating pseudo-Jew.
Fuck you all.
g17y5wb 4 months ago
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"Well, l-l-l-l-et me b-b-b-b-begin by referring to something I-I-I-I-I've already discussed..."
Fuck you, you neurotic, s-s-s-s-s-stutter-rrr--r-rr--r r--rring Woody Allen clone motherfucker.
Go down to the lock-up unit (mental ward) of a local hospital, and these are the same pathetic, fucked-up, completely-worthless-to-society nut bags who are institutionalized there. The only difference is that THESE buttholes have a cyber-following --- YOU pathetic YouTube viewers.
Thank you.
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I would like to take a magic marker and draw a jack-o-lantern on that chrome fucking dome.
I heard that fuck-oult had a tattoo of Woody Allen on the shaft of his penis, but it only showed the nose -- because Allen's fucking nose was so big, and because fuck-ooh's penis was so small.
g17y5wb 4 months ago
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God-fucking-Damn!
This video is a copyright violation of a scene from the old Muppets Show -- a skit with DR. BUNSEN HONEYDEW.
YouTube search "Dr. Bunsen Honeydew" and you'll see what I mean.
What an UGLY, neurotic motherfucker.
Hey, intellectuals -- nobody who actually does constructive, productive work in the real world gives a rat's ass about y'all.
You frosted fuck-tarts.
;-)
g17y5wb 4 months ago
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Hey, BrtrdDbs, you weird, obese, ugly homosexual with a bizarre penchant for watching videos of dead homosexual neurotic jews masturdebate worthless, arcane horseshit, I am sorry if the following post sexually arouses you, since I know that you are home alone with your poodle.
cc: Mr. Buttfucker
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@BrtrdDbs,
You are about as unexpected -- and unwelcome -- as when one thinks they just have to fart, but it comes out as slimy diarrhea. Yes, that characterizes you quite well.
g17y5wb 4 months ago
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Hey, @BrtrdDbs, is it true that you fucked Paul Krugman in his butthole?
Was he lying on the floor, supine, when you came up and straddled him and dangled your testicles in his mouth as if they were A TEABAG? Did you jam your pickle into his mouth while you watched the Weather Channel on TV?
Did you suck John Maynard Keynes' penis? Did you tell him right before you engulfed his dick in your mouth, "I'LL show you what INFLATION is all about!!"?
Did Milton Friedman give you a rimjob?
g17y5wb 4 months ago
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Hey, @BrtrdDbs, you posted at fucking 2am cal-ee-for-nee-uh time; you need to go to bed, motherfucker (whoops, error-- I meant to call you COCKSUCKER). Why do you fuck around online at THAT hour??
Are you unemployed? A welfare dependent HIV (+) "disabled" lazy fat slob, as well an all around effeminate near-suicidal remake of Ethel Merman?
Are you one of those really whiney, nagging gay dudes who makes Richard Simmons look masculine?
Are you THAT lonely? Stick a dildo up your asshole.
g17y5wb 4 months ago
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Hey, @BrtrdDbs, you posted at fucking 2am cal-ee-for-nee-uh time; you need to go to bed, motherfucker (whoops, error-- I meant to call you COCKSUCKER). Why do you fuck around online at THAT hour??
Are you unemployed? A welfare dependent HIV (+) "disabled" lazy fat slob, as well an all around effeminate near-suicidal remake of Ethel Merman?
Are you one of those really whiney, nagging gay dudes who makes Richard Simmons look masculine?
Are you THAT lonely? Go kill yourself.
g17y5wb 4 months ago
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Hey, @BrtrdDbs, is it true that you fucked Paul Krugman in his butthole?
Did you jam your dick in his mouth? Did you straddle him while he lie on the floor supine, and dangle your testicles in his mouth LIKE A TEABAG?
Are you one of those sassy, whiny, FLAMING effeminate obese gay dudes who makes Richard Simmons look masculine? A pussy-woosie girly femme, naggy little freak with a poodle for a pet? A freak who's addicted to these fuckin' Chomsky shit vids (85% of ya are gay)?
You freak.
g17y5wb 4 months ago
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Hey, Homo-boy, if you're so motivated to shoo away this "annoyance", why the fuck did YOU rekindle this romance?
Answer: because you're a loser Homo buttfucker whose relationships online mean so much to her...I mean him... I mean, Uh, well to YOU, you effeminate queen. I know that I'm coming to have enough meaning in your pathetic, empty life that you restarted this dialogue, only to pathologically dis me sua sponte.
Come on, admit it-you're getting a crush on me.
Fuck off, fat faggot.
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@BrtrdDbs,
Get a REAL WORLD life, okay, you shut-in homosexual?
Well, you Chomsky-addicted, worthless pseudo-intellectual, white pasty skinned, obese motherfucker!
You are about as unexpected -- and unwelcome -- as when one thinks they just have to fart, but it comes out as slimy diarrhea. Yes, that characterizes you quite well.
g17y5wb 4 months ago
foucault, like most french intellectuals, was a massive bore that took a 1000, gassy, vaguely connected words to say what chomsky resume in 20s, to the frenchs and italians (umberto eco comes to mind), intellectualism is a lot of gesticulations, pompous speech mannerisms, diluted into a river of nonsense
quaxk 4 months ago
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Hey, loser, there are people who associate with others in the REAL WORLD, and use the CYBER-world as as tool or who recognize it as the electronic toilet that it is. Then there are people like YOU and fat, ugly Nina-California, depressed home shut-ins with a half dozen pet cats, for whom the Internet is a MEANINGFUL place of genuine social connections.
Sick faggot loser.
g17y5wb 4 months ago
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@BrtrdDbs, hey, ya gol-darned HO-MO!
Be mindful that when I address you as "BUTTFUCKER", I'm not using an ad hominem attack, I'm just using your TITLE.
Are you HIV (+)?
Do you suck dick? Take dick in your rectum? Stick your penis in other men's mouths and/or buttholes?
"Nice"....
g17y5wb 4 months ago
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A fucking BALD black guy...
A dopey looking white guy with dirty long, uncombed hair and 5 days beard growth...
A chinese chick...
Another white guy, overweight, with a T-shirt beneath an unbuttoned, untucked long sleeve shirt...(something which NO guys wear in real life)
What do all these motherfuckers have in common??
THEY'RE ON EVERY FUCKING AD ON TV.
WHY??????? FUCKING WHY?????
Are ALL black guys BALD?
Have ALL white guys forgotten how to shave? Or cut or at least COMB their hair???
g17y5wb 4 months ago
Fuck Notre dame
g17y5wb 4 months ago
whoa Chomsky gets owned
petalinthemud 4 months ago
Foucalt = Class.
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gj7l1O0ij49gq1l00O0l 4 months ago
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gj7l1O0ij49gq1l00O0l 4 months ago
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Hey, assholes, ponder this:
I am taking a shit right now, right this very second. A loaf of poop is slithering out of my asshole RIGHT NOW. It stinks like ground beef with vinegar gravy and scrambled eggs.
Uuunnngh....
There. I'm done now. It stinks like hell in here.
Thank you.
g17y5wb 5 months ago
@valdejunquera ''Perverts'' or ''pedophiles'' and even ''homosexuals'' are nothing but a symptom of the years, decades, or centuries of sexual oppression with state working in unison with organized religion. Foucault uncovered the audacity of power institutions. The only thing disgraceful is the Freudian reaction formation they have to their own sexual natures. Social, political, and religious taboo are the real problem because if there was liberty we would not have be having this conversation.
07Aristotle 5 months ago
@07Aristotle huh? you are born homosexual or pedophile, it's a deviance, it's not a "sickness" that can be cured or administrated to someone. Where did you get this marxist garbage?
fdesouchecom 4 months ago
@fdesouchecom I do not know to much about homosexuality but I understand that ''Perverts'' or ''pedophiles'' are indeed of symptom of socio-cultural forces, and even religous forces. Haha! Marxism?--ye noble, indeed what fruad of words!!
07Aristotle 3 months ago
@valdejunquera To Foucault, he saw the petition as another way of the state as imposing power upon its people. Of course, without them knowing; considering the society, as a collective force, is ignorant about their sexuality, moreover, their sexual expression. So, because we as adults have some degree of ''choice'' with our sexuality, children with their sexuality should have some degree of ''choice''. Sexuality is a natural part of ourselves, including children. Scientists support this.
07Aristotle 5 months ago
@valdejunquera Foucault equated sexual expression to mental health. He exemplified, in retrospect, all of the social and religious changes in perspectives on sexuality. Moreover, he criticized religions, particularly organized religion, about the taboos they establish against sexual expression. He believed the state legislators, with religious hierarchy, used techniques of power to repress our NATURAL sexuality. With this oppression, religious and state institutions maintain power over people.
07Aristotle 5 months ago
@valdejunquera Don't forget Derrida, Althusser, and some other individual also signed the petition. Have you read history of sexuality? Do you understand the main thesis of his works? They are sexual oppression and ''psychiarization'' of sexuality. Foucalt was against ''social control'' over sexuality and this was his main motivation for signing the petition; he acknowledged childhood sexuality. Childhood sexuality is already for by many sexologists.
07Aristotle 5 months ago
@valdejunquera
Foucault is not claiming any moral high ground - he never has! He's no Gandhi or Jesus & he's not claiming to be. His philosophy is not about embracing morality. You have to criticize a person on what they believe compared with how they actually live. Foucault never "believed" in morality. If you understand that you will see why how Foucault is "judged" by those who embrace morality is irrelevant. Because morality changes from culture to culture & over time, it can't be trusted.
thepostnihilist 5 months ago
@valdejunquera
What does Foucault's personal life (whether or not he was a pedophile) have to do with whether or not he knows what he is talking about in this video? Chomsky is clueless concerning how the world actually works. Are you going to try to discredit Foucault by using information that isn't even relevant here? Plenty of "moral" people contribute nothing to knowledge: they are too good at following someone else's rules. Foucault was a great thinker - deal with it.... and his flaws.
thepostnihilist 5 months ago
@valdejunquera It does not matter if your french. That does not prove whether you know anything of Foucault. Just because I'm American does not mean I know everything of , Edgar Caye, or C.S. Lewis ,does it?
Even though it is not true, his acts have not barring on the truth of what he says. I have read many of his books, and what I stated was from his volumes of 'history of sexuality'. What do you have to say?
07Aristotle 5 months ago
@valdejunquera Why would you criticize someone who you have no knowledge of?
This is regardless of the law. He supported knowledge of sexuality, that is it.
07Aristotle 5 months ago
@valdejunquera Sexuality loses its seductive and evasive power over use the more we talk about it and the more we understand it. This is what Foucault proposed in his philosophy. He was heavily influenced by Sigmund Freud.
07Aristotle 5 months ago
@valdejunquera Unfortunately ''pedophiles'', and other sexual deviants, were a result of the major sexual repression in our, and every other, society. The fact that individuals, modernly, and in the past have reacted so abject and repulsively toward our sexuality keeps it suppressed and, therein, creating mutations in sexuality. Sexuality needs to be in our conversations with confidence and without shame.
07Aristotle 5 months ago
A decent society is only appearance.
There is no GOVERNment, there is only CONTROLment.
LiteWaiter 5 months ago
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Have you ever farted but to your surprise it wasn't just air--it was some slimy, mucus wad of diarrhea? Now your whole buttcrack was filled with slimy diarrhea, and you thought "Oh, FUCK!!". But you were in class, or on a date, so you had to just sit there and act normal. But soon you started to stink like a baby's diaper, and people started looking at you....
Well?
g17y5wb 5 months ago
@gj7l1O0ij49gq1l00O0l,
Pretty funny.....(yaaaaawn.....).
Excuse my boredom.
Hey, has anyone told you that your fucking YouTube name is a real pain in the ass to enter manually??!!!
Nice.....
g17y5wb 5 months ago
Mr. President! I am honored to dialogue with you! Congratulations on your handling of the economy! Now, 1 in 7 Americans are on SNAP coupons! It's great how you understand that it's a good thing to increase the dependence of people in the government. To hell with FREEDOM; let's cultivate class envy!!
By the way, it's "boom chacka lacka boom."
gj7l1O0ij49gq1l00O0l 5 months ago
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@BrtrdDbs,
Tell me which background you like to masturbate to the most at my channel, you flabby buttfuck.
You are the MOTHER OF ALL FUCKERS.
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God, you are more ignorant than I used to believe.
Do I have to spell EVERYTHING out for you, RE-tard?!
An ounce of insight was given to your moronic comment about MY entertainment value here, NOT as some surrender to 'your superior intelligence' but because you displayed a glint of perception [which I now see you have lost].
You continue to be blind to the broader perspective -- by the very act of attempting to 'win some debates' here you are proving what a loser you are.
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That's the most insightful thing you've written, Captain Buttfuck. The funny thing is, for YOU, this is some sacred altar for you to frame some psychotic reality where you "win debates" and "prove how smart you are".
Let me spell it out for you: THAT makes you a loser.
Go cash your welfare check, deep-shit.
Mange moi.
g17y5wb 5 months ago
I see, you fat lonely psycho, YOU set the rules 'here', huh. @BrtrdDbs, newsflash: this is the fucking cyberworld! You fat flabby Homo RE-tard!! Does you 'making the rules here' give you some sense of control, of power which you lack back in that place called "REALITY"?!
Hey, dipshit, this is your computer talking to you, "and if you don't like it, don't respond!"
I'm surprised your powerful intellect didn't conclude with "Nyaaa nyaa nyaa!"
g17y5wb 5 months ago
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@BrtrdDbs,
HEY, MOTHERFUCKER, I SAW YOU 'CAME' TO MY CHANNEL AND MASTURBATED TO THE PICTURES OF ME!! FUN! THAT'S OKAY, I WON'T TELL ANYONE. HEY, WHAT'S THAT JIZM ON YOUR THIGH AND YOUR RIGHT HAND? YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO CATCH IT WITH YOUR LEFT HAND -- YOU KNOW, A LIQUIDITY TRAP ! ! !
FUCKIN' A ! ! !
Liquidity Trap, MY ASS.
Hey, homo, Paul Krugman told me to tell you he thinks you're a RE-tard and an ausfart.
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Hey, @BrtrdDbs, "...some time to waste..." -- what's the deal, fat flabby homo, do YOU spend a lot of time here or something? I mean, does it take you quite awhile and a lot of effort to (1) get here, (2) digest the meaning of things here, and (3) fabricate a pseudo-intellectual, quasi-witty response?? From your RE-tarded comment, one gathers that this is so.
You mental weakling.
Fuck you.
Do you enjoy the vicarious debates w/ other bald french faggot fans here?
I love you dearly.
g17y5wb 5 months ago
Faggot speaks in Latin??!!! Hahahahaaaha!!!
You gay loser! God, you are like a fat, flabby pot bellied sassy bitch-boy, one of those sassy, whiny, nagging little poodles that everyone hates.
You buttfucker.
You will never achieve anything in life.
Go kill yourself and your cat.
g17y5wb 5 months ago
@BrtrdDbs, "speaking of vocabulary,..."
"...repeat after me:...."
Fuckin' nonsequitur.
You BUTTFUCKER.
!REKCUFREHTOM
g17y5wb 5 months ago
Who the PHUCK watches videos of this UGLY motherfucker, bald with UGLY glasses, overly animated french cocksucker (literally!)?! Is he a tea BAGGER, ie, does he lie down and let other HO-MOs dangle their testicles in his mouth? Do YOU?
Dr. Fuckin' Bunsen Honeydew...
Frog motherfucker...
Bowling ball head... UGLY....
g17y5wb 5 months ago
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You gay pseudo-intellectual ! You are a nasty boy-bitch, aren't you, you overweight HO-mo!
Do you work? Live on unemployment checks? Live with your mommie while you keep struggling to finish that useless degree?
Life's a challenge for 'smart' people like you, you femme-boy, isn't it, but the cyber world allows you to have this pathetic 'avatar', which 'wins debates'! You flabby gay loser.
g17y5wb 5 months ago
Fuck you, loser. Is this little fantasy site a central place in your gay life? You have your little gay friends and you enriched you lives with your disembodied butt buddies here? Isn't it FUN ! !
You even use specialized vocabulary like "troll" ! You're 'hip' !
Do you watch Bravo on the gay network, and talk at the TV as if you're having a conversation with the homo characters ?
Get out of here yourself, socially isolated Internet addict loser.
Lick my labia.
g17y5wb 5 months ago
@BrtrdDbs, hey you
R E K C U F R E H T O M
CUm hErE and ponder whetHEr you life has exceeded your SUicIde threshold.
I hope your poodle gets foul smelling dirrhea, and your cat pukes up the entrails and feathers of a bird on your sofa.
I hate you.
g17y5wb 5 months ago
Well, Rah-thuh, pip pip, cherio, shall we ponder, to wit: just how many angels CAN dance on the head of a pin?
You sad, lonely homosexuals. You find pleasure in vicariously debating utterly worthless topics via your viewership of ugly motherfuckers like this french bowling ball head, Aka Dr. Bunsen Honeydew.
Do you buttfucker tea bagging fags know what 'spagnola' means?
Fuck you, RE-tards.
g17y5wb 5 months ago
Quit cum-ing to my channel and MASTURBATING to pictures if me !!
Eeeuuuewww, gross ! !
You gross old man ! !
g17y5wb 5 months ago
@Gibbsian36,
Come to this comment board--let's have a chess match....fun fun, zowie wowie ! !
g17y5wb 5 months ago
You fucking fag. I'm surprised your pencil-headed little cocksucker head didn't type in "au contraire", you pretentious mentally mastur-debating homosexual.
I hope your dog gets foul smelling diarrhea, and your cat pukes-up the entrails and feathers of a bird on your sofa.
Have a nice day.
g17y5wb 5 months ago
"CHURLISH"
Fuck piss
Tits whore damn cunt
g17y5wb 6 months ago
Every fucking ad on tv.....bald black man and / or an Asian guy, then don't forget the masseuse token motherfucker with the scruffy, 3 day beard.
Fuck
Ugly token motherfuckers.
.
g17y5wb 6 months ago
In the fucked-up world of TV ads, men are too fucking lazy to shave their faces anymore, but they're so obsessed with running a fucking razor over their scalp each and every day.
Hmmmm...I SEE......................
Fuck
g17y5wb 6 months ago
Are tv ad makers aware that black men ARE capable of growing hair on their heads? What is the historical cultural link between blacks and Asians? Answer: they live in much higher proportions than in the rest of the US in the Oakland Bay area, so fucking idiot tv ad producers jam that cultural sampling onto our tv's, unaware that the rest of the world sees the mix as an anomaly.
Fuck
g17y5wb 6 months ago
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g17y5wb 6 months ago
What a pretentious load of pseudo-intellectual crabshit.
Here's the deal: two motherfuckers on a tv ad, a bald black man (ie, a TOKEN) and an Asian man (another TOKEN) with a 3 day beard growth. Asian dude says to the black guy, "Hey, baldy, can I borrow your razor?!!"
Fuckin' A !!!
g17y5wb 6 months ago
Fuck you all. Quit jerkin' your gherkins to fuckin' Dr. Bunsen Honeydew lookalikes like this gay bald motherfucker.
Hey, all you buttholes out there, have you noticed the latest fuckin' thing on TV ads? How they put your typical token BALD motherfuckers? But now the big thing is a FUCKER with a 3 day BEARD?
UGLY motherfuckers!
g17y5wb 6 months ago
@g17y5wb Television is degenerate trash, all of its programming is created by jews with the sole intention to bring public discourse into the gutter. Firebomb Hollywood.
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Odiggidy 6 months ago
^^
ClaisseHume 6 months ago
Foucoult is Woody Allen and Ted Kocinski rolled into one.
He is Dr. Bunsen Honeydew.
He is a worthless frog ugly motherfucker.
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gj7l1O0ij49gq1l00O0l 6 months ago
What show was this on and how/where can I view the entire thing?
callmejunior08 6 months ago
@callmejunior08 got it NEVERMIND
callmejunior08 6 months ago
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gazz12345a 6 months ago
@gazz12345a So... What does it mean?
AchtungVvOID 6 months ago
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gazz12345a 6 months ago
Do anyone know the person in 1:27?
anubis1405 6 months ago
Dr Bunsen honeydew, fff uuu ccc kkk
Yyy ooo uuu.
Fuck you and your dog.
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
Buttfuckers!
Sick assholes, you all are.
gj7l1O0ij49gq1l00O0l 6 months ago
two factors that hold back true freedom and creativity: money and greed
RooCoup 6 months ago
Two of the greatest minds of our time. Love and respect from Sweden.
HarvardBoxer 6 months ago
This seems to be a couple of socialists arguing the best way to restructure society. Our affluent way of life, sadly, needs a certain degree of centralisation and placement of power in the hands of government to continue. While we want government to stay out of the way, it is required to a certain degree to ensure fair play, and to provide a minimum safety net to those most vulnerable in our various societies.
ImperialUSA 6 months ago
Did Chomsky actually understand all that French?
CytotoxicTrev 6 months ago
This fucker IS Dr. Bunsen Honeydew from the Muppets!
Google search Dr. Bunsen Honewdey and you'll see what I mean.
I like Nardia....
gj7l1O0ij49gq1l00O0l 6 months ago
@MrBloograss,
Addendum: for electroconvulsive therapy for this talking bowling ball head with glasses, nurse is ordered to attach DEFIBRILLATOR pads to mr foucoult's temples and deliver 360 joules repeatedly, WITHOUT sedation.
Fun!!
;-)
g17y5wb 6 months ago
@BrtrdDbs yea, they seem to be breathing too and wearing glasses...all definite signs of intelligence :)
tallnsexy63 6 months ago
I wanna get fucked right now
g17y5wb 7 months ago
its fantastic to hear two men speak without erms or umms, definitely the mark of intelligence.
sid8980 7 months ago 2
@sid8980 6:26 ;) <3 haha
tuxy56 6 months ago
@sid8980 they both say "uhh" quite a few times...just saying
tallnsexy63 6 months ago
Great discussion between two giants of 20th and early 21st century thought.
As for it being a debate, well they have philosophical disagreements, but politically -which is where it most matters, no?- Chomsky and Foucault are allies. They are men of the left, broadly speaking and both were committed activists that wanted liberty for the people, for the masses.
S2Cents 7 months ago
That's not Noam Chomsky! That's Hugh Hefner!
wuezili 7 months ago
Can anybody at all put up the full debate, in complete fullness, without scattered editing, and with intros and final comments?
niriop 7 months ago
@niriop The most I've found of this is around 13 minutes long, I can't find the full version.
GiantSandles 7 months ago
I get it, there are a bunch of Foucault hacks here, but I don't see his d/a to the perm
turninonthescrew1 7 months ago
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Look at the worthless geek motherfuckers in this video clip...This is what happens when males have low testosterone levels -- they morph into Woody Allen clones and masturbate to thoughts and images of other men's asses.
You fuckers need to jam your (Anthony) Weiners into a girls pussy!!
You'll NEVER know the pleasure.
Losers.
g17y5wb 7 months ago
l'intellectuel francais pontifiant dans toute son horreur
penseur rebelle officiel
et sucant les plates-bandes de Bourdieu en plus....
YunaBonbeurre 7 months ago
NOAM !
He is not listening to you.
He's thinking about your . in his Q
YunaBonbeurre 7 months ago
@YunaBonbeurre
More than likely, he just didn't take Chomsky seriously and regarded the debate as a waste of time. "Human nature" - are you kidding me? But Foucault was a good sport and went along with the woeful naivety of Noam Chomsky. He could have just laughed throughout the entire debate, but he allowed Chomsky his stage and his delusion.
thepostnihilist 7 months ago
1 up for Foucault!!
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glauz 8 months ago
i'd love to smoke a blunt with these two.
audacityfunk 8 months ago
Ronald Weasley at 0:24
wc7vdaner 8 months ago 2
Thomas Jefferson said the price of 'freedom' (democracy) is eternal vigilance. As Foucault effectively said, if the people are not mindful of the institutions and take them for granted then it is expected that they will be corrupted from within. I would say that corruption in government is now more of a threat from external forces such as corporations in which most of the economic power (in the United States at least) is consolidated.
FootDanielLight 8 months ago
Well, I'm not so sure if I agree with eith... excuse me... *YAWN*... with either of them.
wormdrink414 8 months ago
Sweet! It's Marilyn Manson's father at :20
Wunji1 8 months ago
Like Freedom, Democracy and Capitalism are also dangerous assumptions. Such an unchallenged assumption can provide endless confusion and disgust for the very thing that a person has never known!
photonlust 8 months ago
why is this named chomsky VS foucault?
josipml5 9 months ago
@josipml5 good point here
Thebest1one1 8 months ago
@josipml5 its called a debate
uprooting 8 months ago
1000 words left, 2nd yr uni essay.. damn
BodomChildBreeder 9 months ago
Foucault's analysis seems, at least to me, to be more intelligible in the sense that he's been investigating the matter more extensively than Chomsky, and has more to offer in the broader perspective since his analysis is easily more focused on the social structures without putting too much emphasize on the economic aspect that allows social structures to be created, something as Chomsky does as he's fumbling defensively in the dark. To be honest, he doesn't make much sense in this video.
AleichemSholem 9 months ago 18