Ok everyone shut up. Ford- 5.0 liter v8+ 414hp (non-Boss) meanwhile, Chevy has to make a 6.2 liter v8 to make the same amount of hp as the 5.0. That just embarrassing on chevys part that they dont know how to utilize cubes. FORD FTW
@Semeponedura Wrong, cubes are essential... how do you think a 1.6 liter makes 200hp? No many cubes but better flowing heads or bump in compression... put E7 heads from a 302 on a 351, its gonna make more power than the 302.. why you ask? More cubes
Yes you can compensate for having less cubes with good flowing heads boost or a bump in compression but cubes is the sinplest way to make power... tell me how many 600hp lawnmowers there are... none, why? The size of there motors (cubic inches ;) )
the ls3 has more potential hp due to its displacment. that was my first comment. the ls3 is also an older design with simplicity to it. it also has a lower compression. this allows for a longer life span (in theory). in that sense its the ls3 taking dumps on ford. yes a ford dohc has beter working valves. but how good they work is a matter of tuning them. it also matters how long the ports are open. more valves in most cases means better, but not in all cases.
@1911harbinger no matter how much we argue we clearly have 2 different views mine is ford GM
Yours GM Ford
Its never gonna change
And an LS has no more potential than a Dohc ford motor, once again it's physics. If your heads dont flow quite as well use a blower or bump compression or add some cubes... what ever it takes to even the field
@semeponedura a larger chamber allows for more intake. more intake means fuel, more fuel (usually) means more compression, more compression means more power. there is no replacement for displacement. you arent on heroine but you dumb as fuck.
and a significant CR difference would be 9:0:1. 10:4:1 isnt a huge difference .... im not denying that the LS isnt potent but the ford technology's takes a dump on it
PS Im a diehard pushrod fan but facts are facts 4v per cylinder will outflow 2v no matter what
@1911harbinger oh u really stumped me, SINGLE OVER HEAD CAM. instead of a lifter whether its solid or mechanical roller or flat tappet is replaced with a cam shaft that opens the valves, this is a ford technology and some Jap shit uses it
@91fiveohnotch a .6 difference in the ratio is significant diiference. its not like im saying they are polar opposites in terms the ratio, but .6 in this case is a big number.
p.s. you act like i dont think the mustang is fast. it is. its actually faster. what i am saying is that the belief that the new 5.0 is "taking dumps" on one of the most reliable engine lines in recent history (ls motors) is utter crap.
@91fiveohnotch what i am truely saying is that the 5.0 is pushing its limits to compete against an engine of such a larger size (6.2L). the ls3 has way much more potential due to the fact of its simplicity and size compared to a jacked up technilogical 5.0. this is the competators edge. is the 5.0 gt faster than the ss camaro? yes. does that make it better? no and not by a long shot. an ls3 simply has more potential. that is where the lsa and ls9 engines come into play. gm > ford
@91fiveohnotch p.s. a vette with an ls3 is the base model. thats not 'an all out try' as you describe it. and if your excuse is because you gots a pony car then you need to go buy a corolla and stop racing.
try and pick a fight with an ls3 corvette and see what happens. lol. and lets not forget that the ls3 is the engine block for the ls9 build. silly ford fans
@91fiveohnotch thats exactly my point retard. those extra 1.2L that a ls3 has on the 5.0 is basic proof of its larger potential for hp and torque. it has a larger displacment. what the posted hp and torque is only relavent to what the company tunes it to (as you can see with a quite lower compression than the 5.0) and even with no dohc, a de-tuned ls3 still makes more hp than your almighty 5.0L. hell, that ls3 can still beat a tuned up 5.0 from the boss. stop being ford owners. lol
@91fiveohnotch compared to a 10.4:1, thats a significant advantage that the mustangs have. and a ls3 is a sohc engine "dipshit" (as if you even know what any of that is? lol)
Wsimpson86.... new 5.0 makes 400rwhp with a tune and intake sooo it looks like your precious LS motors have been decimated. Im a fox owner and a die hard pushrod guy but face the facts ohc technology stomps pushrods
@91fiveohnotch ya cause ford over compensates with high compression ratio's and dohc. a 6.2ls3 with a tune and intake would make well over 500 idiot. and thats with sohc.
lmao thats funny because the LS1 decimated the ford mod motors. LSx engines are detuned racing engines, mod motors are poorly designed and are not made for power. The only way to get power out of them are to add forced induction. Cobras make 390 hp supercharged LS6 405 hp naturally aspirated.
Had a good start, but there's nothing funny about messin with another mans ride, don't care how much you H8 their brand. When it comes to racing there's no need for the violence either.
Gosh untoldguitarist, such immaturity towards what I think was a joke. People like you need to grow up and quit fighting over domestics, it's the Japanese imports that need to be beat.
If the new Challenger didn't weigh 4000LB+ the New Camaro wouldn't have shit on it. And FYI GM guys talk way more shit then Ford guys do. Like a guy actually thinks his heavy ass 3800LB LS1 Camaro would out run my 70' Cougar Xr-7 that weighs 3160LB once I have it fully built with a 351C that can get 600HP N/A on pump gas; 350 LS1 vs 351 C and his all aluminum LS1 will get owned by a fully built 351C. Now I could use all aluminum internals and it would even be a race which would be funny.
And what car do you have again that is worth building? That's right nothing and also you must not know any history of the Cougars do you? They were always very light and packed a lot of power. Dollar for Dollar , Cast Iron vs Cast Iron, The Ford 351C will Rape any GM 350Ci ever made and those are the facts. Trust me I use to own a GM until it BLEW UP.
College? Yeah, definitely attended....and guess what, landed a position at an institution of higher education, what you call COLLEGE. Yes, very familiar with it...just worked that much harder so I could have my toys and play with them too :)
And actually I own two rides that are both paid for; A 98' Honda Accord and a 70 Mercury Cougar Xr-7 w/ Matching #'s 351W and C6 Trans and nice try but you fail.
Nope wrong again, the Accord is my daily driver and the Cougar is at my friends shop where I have it stored at until I have money and time to work on it.
It runs and everything but it needs new floor pans, interior work , and a good paint Job. If I had the money though I would drop a 351C in it and build it to the max. And I agree you cannot beat a good gasimizer daily driver.
lmfaoooo!
teddyrivera2222 6 days ago
Ok everyone shut up. Ford- 5.0 liter v8+ 414hp (non-Boss) meanwhile, Chevy has to make a 6.2 liter v8 to make the same amount of hp as the 5.0. That just embarrassing on chevys part that they dont know how to utilize cubes. FORD FTW
Materdei101 1 week ago
Cant support that power without a blower amazing heads or crazy compression....
91fiveohnotch 3 weeks ago
@Semeponedura Wrong, cubes are essential... how do you think a 1.6 liter makes 200hp? No many cubes but better flowing heads or bump in compression... put E7 heads from a 302 on a 351, its gonna make more power than the 302.. why you ask? More cubes
Yes you can compensate for having less cubes with good flowing heads boost or a bump in compression but cubes is the sinplest way to make power... tell me how many 600hp lawnmowers there are... none, why? The size of there motors (cubic inches ;) )
91fiveohnotch 3 weeks ago
in the end the ls4 is a better comparison to the 5.0 ford v8. but i guess we will have to agree to disagree.
1911harbinger 2 months ago
the ls3 has more potential hp due to its displacment. that was my first comment. the ls3 is also an older design with simplicity to it. it also has a lower compression. this allows for a longer life span (in theory). in that sense its the ls3 taking dumps on ford. yes a ford dohc has beter working valves. but how good they work is a matter of tuning them. it also matters how long the ports are open. more valves in most cases means better, but not in all cases.
1911harbinger 2 months ago
@1911harbinger no matter how much we argue we clearly have 2 different views mine is ford GM
Yours GM Ford
Its never gonna change
And an LS has no more potential than a Dohc ford motor, once again it's physics. If your heads dont flow quite as well use a blower or bump compression or add some cubes... what ever it takes to even the field
91fiveohnotch 2 months ago
And more cubes = more power and a 5.0 isnt an all out try for ford like the vette! Its a Pony car
Ever hear No replacement for displacement? Hands down nore cubes make more!
91fiveohnotch 2 months ago
@91fiveohnotch Are you on heroine? or stuck in the 70s? Displacement has nothing to do with horsepower or torque.
semeponedura 3 weeks ago
@semeponedura a larger chamber allows for more intake. more intake means fuel, more fuel (usually) means more compression, more compression means more power. there is no replacement for displacement. you arent on heroine but you dumb as fuck.
1911harbinger 2 weeks ago
and a significant CR difference would be 9:0:1. 10:4:1 isnt a huge difference .... im not denying that the LS isnt potent but the ford technology's takes a dump on it
PS Im a diehard pushrod fan but facts are facts 4v per cylinder will outflow 2v no matter what
91fiveohnotch 2 months ago
@1911harbinger just read ur last post. Its no big deal everybody miss types sometimes
91fiveohnotch 2 months ago
@1911harbinger oh u really stumped me, SINGLE OVER HEAD CAM. instead of a lifter whether its solid or mechanical roller or flat tappet is replaced with a cam shaft that opens the valves, this is a ford technology and some Jap shit uses it
And a ls3 is a pushrod design
OHV
91fiveohnotch 2 months ago
@91fiveohnotch ford did not invent dohc and yes i know how pushrod engines work.
1911harbinger 2 months ago
@91fiveohnotch a .6 difference in the ratio is significant diiference. its not like im saying they are polar opposites in terms the ratio, but .6 in this case is a big number.
p.s. you act like i dont think the mustang is fast. it is. its actually faster. what i am saying is that the belief that the new 5.0 is "taking dumps" on one of the most reliable engine lines in recent history (ls motors) is utter crap.
1911harbinger 2 months ago
@91fiveohnotch what i am truely saying is that the 5.0 is pushing its limits to compete against an engine of such a larger size (6.2L). the ls3 has way much more potential due to the fact of its simplicity and size compared to a jacked up technilogical 5.0. this is the competators edge. is the 5.0 gt faster than the ss camaro? yes. does that make it better? no and not by a long shot. an ls3 simply has more potential. that is where the lsa and ls9 engines come into play. gm > ford
1911harbinger 2 months ago
@91fiveohnotch p.s. a vette with an ls3 is the base model. thats not 'an all out try' as you describe it. and if your excuse is because you gots a pony car then you need to go buy a corolla and stop racing.
1911harbinger 2 months ago
i just realized i kept on saying overhead cams. my bad. its still a single cam though.
1911harbinger 2 months ago
try and pick a fight with an ls3 corvette and see what happens. lol. and lets not forget that the ls3 is the engine block for the ls9 build. silly ford fans
1911harbinger 2 months ago
@91fiveohnotch thats exactly my point retard. those extra 1.2L that a ls3 has on the 5.0 is basic proof of its larger potential for hp and torque. it has a larger displacment. what the posted hp and torque is only relavent to what the company tunes it to (as you can see with a quite lower compression than the 5.0) and even with no dohc, a de-tuned ls3 still makes more hp than your almighty 5.0L. hell, that ls3 can still beat a tuned up 5.0 from the boss. stop being ford owners. lol
1911harbinger 2 months ago
1911harbinger and wow thats great its also 1.2 more liters of displacment.....
91fiveohnotch 2 months ago
@1911harbinger yea the new 5.0 totaly overcompensates with a 11:0:1 ratio? And the 6.2 isnt ohc its ohv dipshit
91fiveohnotch 2 months ago
@91fiveohnotch compared to a 10.4:1, thats a significant advantage that the mustangs have. and a ls3 is a sohc engine "dipshit" (as if you even know what any of that is? lol)
1911harbinger 2 months ago
Wsimpson86.... new 5.0 makes 400rwhp with a tune and intake sooo it looks like your precious LS motors have been decimated. Im a fox owner and a die hard pushrod guy but face the facts ohc technology stomps pushrods
91fiveohnotch 5 months ago
@91fiveohnotch ya cause ford over compensates with high compression ratio's and dohc. a 6.2ls3 with a tune and intake would make well over 500 idiot. and thats with sohc.
1911harbinger 2 months ago
lmao thats funny because the LS1 decimated the ford mod motors. LSx engines are detuned racing engines, mod motors are poorly designed and are not made for power. The only way to get power out of them are to add forced induction. Cobras make 390 hp supercharged LS6 405 hp naturally aspirated.
wsimpson86 6 months ago
@wsimpson86 Cobras are RATED at 395, they put out 450 stock and way over 600 with a pulley swap and a good tune.
mynamesmiked 6 months ago
@mynamesmiked If they put out 450 then they would say it puts out 450. hp sells cars
wsimpson86 6 months ago
@wsimpson86 You clearly don't understand insurance ratings.
mynamesmiked 6 months ago
It's funny because both cars are slow.
gxsrbaby 10 months ago
omg best laugh i had today
pitkindaguy 11 months ago
LMAOOO
juztanotherday2 11 months ago
This sucks and your mustang will always be slow.
dwoloszyn91 1 year ago
hahaha lmfao!!!! i love these videos. Ford guy was brutal, "how bout i punch u in ur fuckin face", lol xD
DefenderJP55 1 year ago
now shut the fuck up u little boy i rape mustangs all the time lmfao!!
jcrx22 1 year ago
what the fuck did you say? you must be on fucking crack. lmao
CudiZone11 1 year ago 2
I watched 3 or 4 of these type of videos. Does any one not find this funny?
tornadostorm18 1 year ago
LMAO this is too fuckin GREAT! LMAO
The03GTSTANG 1 year ago
ahahahaha
mxmang 2 years ago
hahaha awesome!
00freightshaker 2 years ago
Had a good start, but there's nothing funny about messin with another mans ride, don't care how much you H8 their brand. When it comes to racing there's no need for the violence either.
Daazer1 2 years ago
You know they have that saying " When the Cleveland comes out to play, The Chevy's and Mopar's run away.
untoldguitarist 2 years ago 2
haha damn straight man!!
1bad280zx 2 years ago
that is frikin hilarious
curtmaster3001 2 years ago
Hahahaha
AlecJDWhitehead 2 years ago
ha ha ha fucking funny
sxyme2 2 years ago
Sometimes the Bowtie Cocksuckers will just never learn Ford And Mopar have owned GM in racing since the 60's.
untoldguitarist 2 years ago
Gosh untoldguitarist, such immaturity towards what I think was a joke. People like you need to grow up and quit fighting over domestics, it's the Japanese imports that need to be beat.
kcole939 2 years ago
Mopar owns jack shit they havn't had good cars since the 70's!
Daazer1 2 years ago
If the new Challenger didn't weigh 4000LB+ the New Camaro wouldn't have shit on it. And FYI GM guys talk way more shit then Ford guys do. Like a guy actually thinks his heavy ass 3800LB LS1 Camaro would out run my 70' Cougar Xr-7 that weighs 3160LB once I have it fully built with a 351C that can get 600HP N/A on pump gas; 350 LS1 vs 351 C and his all aluminum LS1 will get owned by a fully built 351C. Now I could use all aluminum internals and it would even be a race which would be funny.
untoldguitarist 2 years ago
I love how it's always "Once I have it built" LOL
rekjavicxxx 2 years ago
And what car do you have again that is worth building? That's right nothing and also you must not know any history of the Cougars do you? They were always very light and packed a lot of power. Dollar for Dollar , Cast Iron vs Cast Iron, The Ford 351C will Rape any GM 350Ci ever made and those are the facts. Trust me I use to own a GM until it BLEW UP.
untoldguitarist 2 years ago
Wow, "used to own" and "going to build" haha Sounds like you're between rides bro. Happy walking.
Oh, and if you'd check people's channels before running your mouth, you'd see what kind of rides I've got.
rekjavicxxx 2 years ago
Nope it is just called being in COLLEGE if you knew anything about that which is highly doubted.
untoldguitarist 2 years ago
College? Yeah, definitely attended....and guess what, landed a position at an institution of higher education, what you call COLLEGE. Yes, very familiar with it...just worked that much harder so I could have my toys and play with them too :)
rekjavicxxx 2 years ago
And actually I own two rides that are both paid for; A 98' Honda Accord and a 70 Mercury Cougar Xr-7 w/ Matching #'s 351W and C6 Trans and nice try but you fail.
untoldguitarist 2 years ago
Lemme guess....the blocks they're on are financed though, right? LOL
rekjavicxxx 2 years ago
Nope wrong again, the Accord is my daily driver and the Cougar is at my friends shop where I have it stored at until I have money and time to work on it.
untoldguitarist 2 years ago
Cool! I have one of those commuters too....wouldn't trade it for the world. Post up some vids when ya get the Coug running!
rekjavicxxx 2 years ago
It runs and everything but it needs new floor pans, interior work , and a good paint Job. If I had the money though I would drop a 351C in it and build it to the max. And I agree you cannot beat a good gasimizer daily driver.
untoldguitarist 2 years ago
Lmao! This vid is so true!
robertjdm 2 years ago