This is what happens when a handful of greedy bastards cant stop filling their bank accounts with American blood! Yes the republicans are responsible and the democrats for not keeping an eye on the baby, now the baby is sick because he ate too much candy!!!! We are screwed, thank God we hired Barack Obama to help us, imagine if John Mccain was president, Id say kill me now!
Americans, we should have GWB and the entire congress investigated for fraud and debt spending out of control over the last decade. This is a NATIONAL TRAGEDY, that our country was at a surplus and the deficit wasnt an issue, now One decade later our entire future is in the hands of China? WTF? Did I just wake up and unemployement is at an all time high, everybody is on welfare, social security, unemployement, or some type of govt assistance? Come on America we are better than this.
You stupid moron. The dot-com bubble and the capital gains taxes from those gains is what created the surplus. Three months into GWB's first term the the bubble burst and the stock market crashed wiping out 7 trillion dollars of value. That's why the surplus disappeared. But you are too stupid to understand that fact.
it was also the drastic cut in militay spending and drastic cuts into retired military benifits, drastic cuts to military hospitals, drastic cuts to the native american treaties, drastic cuts in national forrest services, etc, etc, etc, oh yeah and increased income taxes, yet decreased import/export taxes to promote NAFTA.
the entire congress? ya know that your precious hillary and barry are innocent of any of those charges, they were the only voices that were against all of this spending--oh wait, no they weren't. Why do people insist that GWB acted on his own accord without regard to congress, do you honestly think that he would have 8 yrs in office if he had been so totally dictatorial? and if everybody was in on it, then that means hillary and barry as well.
All you fucking control freaks can go fuck yourselves. You can go fuck yourselves so hard your ass holes burn. All you get from Santa this year is coal in your fucking stockings. You're lucky that you get that. If it was up to me, you would get fucking nothing. So go fuck yourselves you fucking control freaks, fuck you and have a nice day.
Russia is working on developing new nuclear weapons. Wait I thought that the Kremlin and BHO with his mastery in negotiations struck up a nuclear treaty with Medvedev. This is most confusing, but then again is "the dream of a nuclear free world" what a clown, is he going to uninvent them?
Because Iran has vowed Israels destruction for years, ours as well. We are "Great Satan" after all.
I'd much rather see a country that has done everything, even giving away Gaza in pursuit of peace have nukes then Iran. To hasten the return of the Mahdi / 12th Imam, Ahmawhckjob has stated on many occasions the world must be rid of the US and Israel
And we have MAD. Mutually assured destruction. It's a great deterrent. Besides if Iran ever did anything, We would turn the whole country into a sheet of glass in about 30 minutes.
I am more worried about an EMP attack from a small nuke, supplied by one of these countries that do not seem to be concerned with mutually assured destruction. Even a small nuke, could literally "nuke" any sensitive electronics in the US, if fired by even a SR missile and detonated above our atmosphere.
Iran has done dry runs firing missiles from moving cargo ships etc, and has even threatened the EMP attack
Something else that is scary about the EMP attack is if it detonated high enough, there is a lot of speculation that we would ever know the source of the Uranium, our sniffer planes wouldn't even be an option
EMP is being considerer by the Builderberg elite in a false flag attack to shut down the Internet and communications. Sovereign countries don't consider anything of the sort considering our counter strike capabilities. Out satellites would spot who, what, where, and when almost instantly. Make my day Builderberg, Instantly bankrupt Google, Microsoft, Apple, Cisco, Ebay, Amazon, Fedex, UPS and others.
I didn't think about the satellites for spotting the ship, that is an interesting point. So say we detain the ship, and it turns out to be a Chinese Cargo liner with a Saudi Arabian crew. We would still have no idea where the nuke came from.
As for the make my day Builderberg part, I like fed ex, ya the rest can go
If you see a fat man, he got fat at the expense of the skinny man standing beside him.
If you cant trust gooberment plans, who can you trust?(SS bankrupt, medicare soon to be, fairness in lending wrecked the global economy, rent control, school lunches once 5% now 60%, HC miserably fails in 3 states, welfare has produced more poor per capita since before programs existed, Doe funding results in an inverse SAT score, GW cult like pandering) Yay hurray gooberment
You mean like HMO's? NAFTA? and lets not get me started on TANF. It has always been the dem stand to get people off of welfare, and into the job market when the reps took over the south, it then became the mantle of the rep party to get everybody off of welfare and into the job market. what everybody fails to see is that in order to have a middle, you have to have a top and a bottom, the poor are mandatory in our society, there would be no middle class without them
I'm sure our country's Founding Fathers are up there praying along with us for one of those Dems to be dead by the morning, or perhaps they are letting the Dems do what they are doing so they bury themselves. I don't know what they are thinking, but the stakes are really high.
The dems were quite fervent in their opposition to the Civil rights movement as well.
Most don't know but Roosevelt was a pretty outspoken antisemite. He took a lot of heat for not specifically targeting death camps in WWII.
Dems just pander votes, they have no commitment to any issues. The more dependents they can create, the more votes they can get. They don't care about how bad that is for the country, they're just pandering votes. Its pathetic
The leftists pattern indicates two dimensional thinking. Their whole lives revolve around and are based on human interest stories which their MSM bombard them with 24/7/365.
TrueUSAPatriots, revisionist: Civil rights: Name one, ONE, civil rights bill authored and passed by the republic party in the 1960s.
Some Dems opposed civil rights, but what you either are ignorant of or hide is that those Dems left the party for the Dixicrats or your party. LBJ said his pro-America stand on civil rights could cost him the party in the South and he was right. Racists were welcomed into your party. Ever hear of the Southern Strategy? You still own that sad chapter of history.
some dems? 93% dems and 100% reps in the south opposed the the civil rights act of 1964, but them there were only 11 reps in the south then. it was the north that passed the bill, it had nothing to do with rep or dem, just north and south. yeah, LBJ lost the south, and it is for much longer than the generation that he thought it would be too. stand back and you will see that both parties have good and bad, taking care of our country is what counts, not what party you belong to.
we have had all parties take us into war, and bring us out of it. we have had all parties corrupted and all parties bring justice back. liberals have good ideas, so do conservatives, but lately it seems only the wing nuts have had their say. I think this country is worth conserving, but there is parts of it, as we grow and change that need to change as well. if we are not willing to work with our neighbor, then we have no right to bitch about what is being done.
Hawaii your a true liberal who thinks he can misconstrue the constitution so he can trash it. The founding fathers believed in a limited goverment. You need to read the federalist papers to truely understand it. I'm sorry changing it to accomadate huge spending increases and taking freedoms away from the people is why the dems will lose in the next elections. As Jefferson said a person willing to give up freedom for security doesn't deserve either.
laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths disclosed, and manners and opinions change with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also, and keep pace with the times. What does that mean to you??? Was Jefferson just wasting time when he said this?
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; and what does that mean to you?
I understand that a limited gov was desired, but as man progressed, so did his greed and corruption. When local and state cannot and will not control this, then THE PEOPLE have the RIGHT to ask the federal gov in to step in. This bill totally pisses me off as it does absolutely nothing for healthcare costs. But then again, i didn't vote for obama, as I knew he didn't have what it took to withstand the ins companies. This 'do nothing' mentality has to stop, it isn't getting us anywhere
The majority of dems opposed civil rights, that was my point. This is easily fact checked, and yet the majority of the reps backed it, hence the reason we were coined the "black party"
As far as LBJ goes,he did the Blacks no favors, he just created dependency by doing what dems are famous for, buying votes. LBJ used welfare instead of cash to buy votes, yep, dems are famous for that to.Bottom line, basic econ will tell you the fastest way to depress a population or region is through welfare
TP: Yes, a majority of southern Dems opposed civil rights, but being either ignorant or disingenuous or both, you don't give the whole story: they left for the still-racist "Southern Strategy" republic party. I doubt you know the first to find comfort there. Hint: it was in 1964. Do some research and stop embarrassing yourself.
Point is, if it were wrong while they were Dems, it was STILL wrong when they joined your racist republic party, so you are really condemning your own party. HAHAHA!
TP: The Civil War ended in 1865. What does that have to do with 1964, the year your racist hero left the Dems because their platform was too pro-America for him?
Still waiting for a list of civil rights legislation authored and passed by the republic party during the civil rights era. For extra credit, which party did do that?
What about today? Which party is favored by the KKK and the black helicopter set? Which party wants to repeal civil rights legislation?
"From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are."
If we are going to respect the Constitution, the Federal Government can really only do what is authorized(only 18 things). Anything that is not authorized in Article 1, Section 8 is Unconstitutional. Which is probably 99.9% of all laws passed.
So, where in the Constitution does it give the Congress the power to pass a law forcing me to pay 8% of my income for health insurance regardless of whether or not I desire to purchase of Health Insurance?
Thats, because they never bother to read the federalist papers that tell that are founding fathers wanted a limited federal goverment. People hear free and thats all they hear.
Once again, when the people demand that something be done, then it has to be done. we talk majority rule here, not individual desires. Now I am against the majority of this bill, I believe it to be a train wreck, and it will cost tax payers more money fighting it in the SC that it really is worth. But you cannot sit there adn say that nothing needs to be done. since nothing is being done on the local and state level, the people have demanded that the fed step in.
so, where in the constitution does it deny the peoplethe right to demand a change be made? This bill is not for the welfare state, it is for the working poor. part of id does make sense, a lot of it doesn't, but change still needs to be made.
WalMart can hire you part-time and still continue to work you full time, avoiding the local laws to provide ft employees health care. it isn't the middle class that is getting screwed, it is the working poor, are you looking out for them?
@hawaiidiver68 If you want an unconstitutional change, it must be at the state level according to the 10th Amendment. This bill forces everyone to buy Health Insurance, even the working poor who can't afford it. Where is that authorized in the Constitution? Was there a new Amendment to the Constitution I haven't heard of?
You are the one who volunteered to work at WalMart under those conditions, volunteer to leave if you don't like it.
@hawaiidiver68 If you understand the architecture of the Constitution you would realize, as Barack Obama has said, that it is a document of negative liberties regarding the power of the the Federal Government (see Article 1, Section 8 for the powers Congress Constitutionally has). It lists the powers that the Congress has, and it explicitly says that if the power isn't mentioned it is reserved by the states or the people(10th Amendment).
Article1, Section 8: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
then it lists some of the specifics. But the constitution is a fluid document, designed with vague, large scoped ideologies to allow for chage as times and needs change.
If someone prays to avoid a thief showing up to plunder his home, few religious people would take issue with such a prayer. From that perspective, I see nothing inconsistent to pray to avoid a Congressman showing up to vote to plunder one's freedom and property, which is much more important. As far as atheists, I don't see why they should care one way or the other. I see no hypocrisy in this suggestion by Senator Coburn.
The Leftists are much more easily screwer over when their party is in power. Screwed over by their own party by their own mainstream media and that's because they don't even know it. I get a chuckle out of it.
That's because its no longer a party, its a religion. They're a theocracy now. They have flopped on issues more times on issues then a french hermaphrodite hooker switches sides. But I agree, it is amusing
It will take a lot of pain and suffering dished out by BO and their congresscritters to them, to shake their faith. I'm ROTFLMAO they bought the Man-made global warming hoax. I'm working on a plan to use the knowledge how they are easily controlled through the known methods to get my chance to fleece them.
I wish you the best of luck in that regard. I have debated so many climate sheeple. Their number one answer is, the scientists told me so. It is a dangerous game that our leader is playing by buying into this crap. And why isn't the Heidelberg treaty getting more attention? I wonder
True these leftyinsulters know very little of history or economics. If they bothered stopping their irrational hate they might learn that everytime that fdr activated a program the depression got worse. They can't even fathom that jfk gave the largest tax cuts of all. They can't understand that Clinton didn't even have a chance at reelection intill he adopted conservitive spending policies and dropped the left wing economic policies that where driving his numbers down.
When it finally sinks in to those Europeans that the AGW thing is a hoax, there will be much screaming and weeping and gnashing of teeth. They'll probably burn down the EU parliament building down too.
Something needs to be done about the earmark bribery scam going on in Washington all the time. I'm not against earmarks, I'm just against the way they are used as bribes. Perhaps there should be a bill introduced requiring earmarks to be in earmark only bills.
Why do you think his party pushed the stim package. He had to have something to buy the Dr unions, the ins company endorsement, a hundred mill to Dodd, a hundred mil to Nelson. I bet we have barely scratched the surface
If these people really cared about people in the back pocket of corporations they would look into Chris Dodd and see why he is taking more money than anyone else.
One can hope. They will probably burn down the Conservation Bank that owns their currency as well. I wonder if this could be why Mourice Strong is hiding in China.
The American people ought to pray that DICK Durbin has a worthy opponent and soundely DEFEATS him in the next election. Now THAT would be an awsome miracle for the Illinois and the country.
The sad thing is you libs are so far out of touch with reality that you don't even remember the recession of 01, that yes "bush inherited" It was as bad in real terms as the 08 collapse, but we bounced right out of it. I wonder why that is?
What we are witnessing is the recession being elongated and amplified by Roosevelt economics and poor liberal policies.
Business's aren't about to hire new employees, they are too scared of what foolish policy will come down the pipeline next
TrueUSAPatriots: Having not studied this issue, you probably didn't know that historically, employment lags recovery. Look at any recession for confirmation. Your last para is speculation and nothing more.
And "Bush inherited" a surplus, too, whereas Obama has Bush's debt AND massive unemployment to deal with.
The recession is being elongated by the almost unprecedented depth of conservative failure 2001-2008. That SHOULD not need explaining. Duh. Come back to basic reality, please!
I am an econ major and hold an mba in finance. I am pretty sure I am qualified on the issue. Look at the 01 recession, the recovery, even in unemployment was nearly instant. One of the functions that the fair market hypothesis will never smooth is referred to as the congress function. I suggest you look it up.
A surplus, LOL. Generated by closing countless military bases. And BTW the Unemployment never went over 6 with bush. Didn't BHO promise it wouldn't go over 8?
@TrueUSAWingnut: One would think as an econ major you would be qualified, but clearly you are not.
01 was dropping a pea on the ground compared to DUBYA's earthquake in 08. If you honestly think that the two can be compared, you need to go back to school.
Not in the initial phases. Yes Roosevelt economics have forced a slow recovery, but in real terms both recessions were quite similar monetarily. It is breadth, not depth that has made this one worst, and that is a political component.
@TrueUSAPatriots Wow. You couldn't be more clueless. Dubya's and Republicans' complete and utter incompetence drove this to be by FAR the closest thing to the great Depression, before Obama even took over.
You're right; there is a political component. The moronic and ever-stupid Republicans have literally taken our economy down the tubes through rich giveaways, stupid wars, and absolute lack of regulatory oversight.
Funny, how you and amaloser are never on at the same time. It looks like you have to change names to keep your ignorant hate filled insults and empty threats coming. Tell me Mr. Angry insulter why do you have to pretend to a man? Tell me why you can list one fact? Tell me why all you can do is call names and act stupid. Are you being abused by your parents?
Sorry buddy, just graph the market back to the 1900s. The fall wasn't that bad, its the recovery that has the US "flat lining" LOL
When the rich make money, they employ people and make more. They also fund your welfare through taxation. "stupid wars" didn't BHO say "afg was the fight we should be fighting" Besides, the dems led us into every war of the 20th century and 3 conflicts of the 21st, so you shouldn't talk about wars, you will lose that one too:(
TrueUSAPatriots: A MBA in Finance? I'm shocked! You come across like someone who has never ventured outside Glenn Beck, since you actually believe a few po' people somehow had the power to bring down the whole economy with no outside help.
An advisor mentioned 8% in early Jan, not Obama. However, this was BEFORE the last quarter's numbers showed how bad conservatism had been to our economy. This was widely reported except on Faux News, which explains why you are still relying on that story. :)
Try the leader of the largest economy in the world, yeah, pretty sure that could have some effect. Just look at good ole Rahm's statement "let no good disaster go to waste"
Obama mentioned it when he sold the Stim package, it was in one of his speeches and is probably on YT.
Here's the deal: Bad loans made by commissioned salesmen who would promise anything. Economy could withstand that. Look up "credit default swaps." These were unbacked "insurance" on loans, a conservative Wall St. creation. They were called in, and THAT is what caused your collapse. Frank and po fokes had nothing to do with those. That, and unregulated derivative trading. You own deregulation and lax regulation. See Frontline for the actual history you are unaware of.
TP: Here's the bottom line. I have already made $9913 in the stock market today and it's only 9:30. That is a big FUCK YOU to all those who voted to continue BushCult's downward slide. Remember, when you vote against lib's prosperity, you also vote against your own prosperity. HAHAHA!
On the depth of your slide, you apparently have never seen a chart with this and other recessions together. No comparison. Look it up and stop embarrassing yourself.
NotSoWise: That's good! Some skin in the game will influence your 2010 vote! You can vote to repeat 2007-2008, or repeat 2009. Remember WcBush could not point to one thing different from Bush's failed efforts. Look at recent housing numbers, then look at 2001-2008. Just vote your own interests this time.
All indicators WAY up today - jobs, mfg, housing. Bad news for conservatives, good news for America. And I'm up another $2,804 since $9913 at 9:30, $15,817 for the last two days. Thanks Obama!
It's called equity. House sold new in 2006 for $311,000. Bought 2 months ago from Deutsche Bank through Indy Mac total after rebate for $29,250 because I know what the market is doing and what the banks are doing and some tricks I know how to use. Same model new now going for 225K so lets just call it about $200k equity. I fully expect the equity to be cut in half in 2010 when the next big wave of foreclosures hit. The only ones I got over on were the banksters, and they deserved what they got.
@Michaelwiseguy LOL! "Equity". Funny. Basing your equity on what something sold for in 2006 is hilarious.
P.S. Hate to break this to you, but if you did pull one over, you are just as big of a weasel as the bankers. All you did was take the banks' money that they stole from a hard-working American.
I also recommend everyone under water on their mortgage stop paying their mortgage and stick it to the banksters who are stealing the peoples money, and live in their homes for free as long as they can. My neighbor took my advice 18 months ago and I saved them $36K since then.
LOL now you are an econ major with an mba in finance? Earlier, you said you have a physics degree and alluded to being a physicist and claiming that there is a "fundamental theory of gravity". so... whats the fundamental theory of economics? LOL...
why would you want to be a physics major if you're going to be an engineer? there are various engineering majors. that doesn't make sense to me.
either way, i was being sarcastic about fundamental theory of econ... i was just discrediting your claim of an understanding of physics by you claiming there to be a fundamental theory of gravity and extrapolating that to econ. however, i digress on that. i didn't read at all any of your positions on econ which may be completely correct
There are many different engineers my dimwitted friend.
Look up Gravitrons, there was speculation on magnetism for a while as well, but the Gravitron theory has more of a backing.
The initial theories were simply that objects of mass were attracted to one another. Do you want to debate anything in particular or just issue ad hominem statements?
@TrueUSAPatriots dimwitt? lol... and who's making the ad hominem attacks? i haven't made any ad hominem attacks against you. just in case you forgot, ad hominem requires the attack to be an IRRELEVANT aspect of the person's character.
its graviton NOT gravitron and they are way too hypothetical to be considered for a fundamental theory of gravity.
the only thing i really wanted to debate with you was your so called... "fundamental theory of physics". so... do you got anything else to back it?
You attack me rather then issues of debate, how would that be relevant again? And it is gravitron, at least it was in the paper I saw it presented in, alas it has been about 5 yrs, but you will probably find it spelled either way if you search.
Cool, then let us debate physics. I would enjoy that. What theories would you like to debate
@TrueUSAPatriots i never attacked you other than to discredit your understanding of physics in this statement: "I resort to vocabulary and science. One of my degrees is in Physics. You do realize that the fundamental theory of gravity is actually back on the table for debate, don't you?"
in which case, it is relevant because you claim an understanding of physics which i attempted to discredit.
@TrueUSAPatriots i never attacked anyone's party so i don't know why you keep bringing that up.... its called reading comprehension, you should try it some time.
and i never misquoted you. in fact, i quoted you VERBATIM via copy/paste.
and i never denied that we are debating existence of a fundamental theory of gravity. i do accept that there is a theory of gravity, but thats not what your claim was.
Well then I wasn't very careful with my wording now was I? You attack people who take a clearly Right, and increasingly middle stance(as the middle is polling to the right) for their political statements. That puts you on the left, fact.
Do you accept that the theory is still the subject of debate? The initial theory was yes, that of Isac Newton, and its premise being objects of mass attract.
@TrueUSAPatriots first off, i don't know the political stance of the people that i attack. that, however, does not put me opposite to them because i am not arguing something political that is specific to their party. so that doesn't put me on the left.
last night, it was about practicing religion in govrenment, not its existence. don't try to misconstrue my arguments to use them to affirm yours.
ps i LOVE that tactic. make a statement, then claim it as fact. your arguments are weak, FACT. LOL.
You are a fun little nitwit. I enjoyed debating the God of the gaps with you. But if you are going to debate religion, you should know that the faith you employ in believing that their is no God is the same as the faith that someone who believes employs. The believer however admits in reliance on faith, while the not believer hypocritically denies it.
@TrueUSAPatriots dude, whats wrong with you? your memory totally sucks or you're partially retarded. i never argued god of the gaps with you. that was someone else. i just quoted one thing you said to that person.
and why are you trying to change this debate into faith and religion? i wanted to continue mocking your claim to a fundamental theory of gravity. so again, do you concede defeat or do you have something more substantive to support your claim?
I was debating that the is a God, I suppose that it is possible that you walked in in the middle of that debate?
But if you want to argue a theory, you are going to have to present it. I presented Isaac Newtons theory of gravity, but said that it was still on the floor for debate, and it is. So again, how am I wrong?
I am not going to accused "your memory of sucking" but you would do well to look back at the comments from the debate last night, it was clearly religious.
regarding gravity, until about 15 minutes ago, you never said it was specifically newton's theory up for debate. you said the
"fundamental theory of gravity" was up for debate. again, i implore you to backup your claim to the existence of a fundamental theory. newton's theory has long since been considered a fundamental theory.
@TrueUSAPatriots in fact, newton even suspected there were holes in his theory. further, there is no fundamental theory of gravity because no theory can consolidate gravity's behavior at the cosmic level and the quantum level, nor has any theory ever existed. so again... what is your claim to a fundamental theory of gravity?
I challenge that every theory is fundamental initially when it is presented and accepted by the scientific community. Please, one of my textbooks is called "Fundimental Theories of Phisics" You make me laugh buddy.
@TrueUSAPatriots ok.. then again, which theory of gravity is fundamental? additionally, provide references to something peer reviewed or equatable that supports your claim that whichever theory you choose is considered fundamental. btw, since you didn't know, fundamental theory of physics is not the same as fundamental theory of physics.
i'm glad my comment about your weak arguments made you laugh. it made me laugh too.
I already told you. And whose argument is weak again, you deny debating religion when that was clearly the debate that you have resumed? Now you are boring me. Search fundamental theories of physics, you will find Isaac Newtons.
@TrueUSAPatriots woops... i meant fundamental theory of physics is not the same as fundamental theory of gravity. but... i'll let you have that one. you can ridicule my temporary lapse while in continue to ridicule your fabrication of physics theorems.
Unlike you i wont use it as a reason to attack, I don't need it.
I don't normally recommend wiki, as it is open source, but you should look at it. There is about 20 individual, and now considered fundamental theories of gravity. It doesn't help the argument that the gaps are being filled. There were a few theories that I have never even heard of and even they are called fundamental. The most widely taught is still Isaac Newtons, so that is what I would call fundamental.
@TrueUSAPatriots ok... if you're going to say asinine things like that, i can't argue against you... but if there are 20 different theories on gravity, how can one be fundamental? you just contradicted yourself and proved for me my point. THERE IS NO FUNDAMENTAL THEORY OF GRAVITY.
and again... i said i debated using religion in government which most would consider a debate on constitutional law. so it was not religious, as you said, it was political.
I was hoping that you were going to try to debate a theory, but alas this was just a semantic discussion, sad so sad. They are considered fundamental as soon as they are conceded as plausible explanations.
But since you want to debate semantics and not science, I would challenge that given the definition of fundamental, the theory that was deemed plausible for the longest period, and taught for the longest period and went un challenged for the longest period is the fundamental one
@TrueUSAPatriots WOW. it took you this long to figure out i was arguing with you the existence of a fundamental theory of physics? just... WOW. i don't know why its sad for you since you seem to have so many reading comprehension issues. understanding semantics should be educational for you.
you said you had a text book named "Fundimental Theories of Phisics". i suggest you pick up a book on spelling first. did you just make that up or does it exist? whats the ISBN? I can't find it.
@TrueUSAPatriots i assume your attempt to change the topic is because you can't prove that the physics community does not recognize a fundamental theory with respects to gravity... because it doesn't exist. so me +1, you -100. now on to something more interesting... evolution. i'm going to bet you think it doesn't exist.
Evolution exists within species, but I have seen no evidence that there are changes in DNA so significant that it would lead to another species.
Most the time if you see a significant change or mutation in the wild, the offspring is instantly killed.
I doubt you will actually debate this as you debated nothing about theories in the first place. And yes please do yourself a favor and look it up, there is a "fundamental theory" on almost everything.
@TrueUSAPatriots@TrueUSAPatriots so you couldn't produce an isbn... is this another thing you made up? damn dude, stop fabricating stuff to create an argument. its pretty lame. and there is a fundamental theory on almost everything, but not everything.... gravity inclusive.
now as for evolution... a long term study was recently done (30 years) on e. coli in a controlled environment and they were actually able to have e. coli evolve into what many scientists consider a different species.
Its sold back ages ago, it was written by I believe Segway and F??? I believe the name is Faun or something to that effect.
E coli isn't a species at all you idiot. Its a bacteria, perhaps its bonding sites shifted, happens all the time with virus's. But I would stake the stimulus package that it didn't turn into a frog, or a rabbit. You tool
@TrueUSAPatriots still no isbn huh? just more fabrication. ok, whatever. as for e. coli... WTF. you really are retarded... Domain:Bacteria Phylum:Proteobacteria Class:Gamma Proteobacteria Order:Enterobacteriales Family:Enterobacteriaceae Genus:Escherichia Species:E. coli other species in that genus: E. blattae; E. fergusonii; E. hermannii; E. senegalensis; E. senegalensis; E. vulneris so i'll expect you to pay me that stimulus package sometime soon you moron
The argument is on species change, not changing the subject. Everything is classified through standard protocol, the domain is what determines species and I called it yes a bacteria, now if it turned into a protozoa or something you may have a point.
@TrueUSAPatriots omg you're fucking retarded. you said: "E coli isn't a species at all you idiot". And dude, you have a serious misunderstanding of the biological taxonomic system if you think domain is what determines a species is. so severe, in fact, that i can't even argue this with you... its going to be like arguing with a retard. oh.. wait, i am arguing with a retard.
@TrueUSAPatriots wth are you talking about? what do you mean which is the species? e. coli is the species. bacteria is the domain. i just explicitly listed it out for you. are your reading skills really that bad?
I saw it and saw standard classification protocol, didn't read the last line. Already admitted guilt. The funny thing was you thought that species change was actually relevant.
If it was species's would still be changing, we would have humanchimps running around in the jungle, etc
@TrueUSAPatriots wth? now you're saying that species change isn't actually relevant? lemme quote what you said before... "Evolution exists within species, but I have seen no evidence that there are changes in DNA so significant that it would lead to another species."
i'm done arguing with you dude. you contradict yourself, you make weak arguments, you fabricate shit... flat out, you're a fucking idiot. i was right in my original assumption... your iq is the average youtuber's iq
The claim from evolution is species' changing into new ones. I conceded that I was a believer in Micro, but not Macro evolution. Come on, how can people deny that most newborns will never have to have their wisdom teeth pulled, because they will have none. But I don't believe that a human will ever evolve into a alien, unless by way of legality.
What you are quoting is change w/ in species. You are the only fool in this debate
@TrueUSAPatriots can you just stop being such a stubborn idiot and admit that there is no fundamental theory of gravity? just say it... adamchou, i am a fucking idiot and made up the fundamental theory of gravity
@TrueUSAPatriots btw... i'll let you slide on this one but i feel the need to educate you, open source doesn't make something untrustworthy. firefox is opensource, parts of windows were built on opensource, this website is built on technology that is opensource. so don't slander opensource... it can be reputable
Then worship wiki if you wish, but don't cite it in any papers that you want to earn a passing grade on.
I am bored with semantics, if you want to discuss politics, or science, I am game. But semantics please, this is like the left would do. Oh you don't like welfare, "you hate poor people"
More evidence still that you are a lefty loony toon:) Cheers
TrueUSAPatriots: Wow, adamchou did a number on you. You really are a case. You're a physicist, an economist, and now you believe in a big hairy invisible guy who lives in the sky. Probably believe Adam and Eve rode to Sunday School on a dinosaur, too. A real chameleon.
So why do whales have pelvises, anyway? (rhetorical question, not wasting any more time on a closed-minded nut who believes in magic, not science.)
being that econ is not my specialty, nor even a real interest, let me pose a question, or twenty... If you keep pushing a market at the max of what it will bear, without regulating, how long will it take for that market to collapse? how long before the people quit buying because it is ridiculously overpriced and overburdened?? maybe that is just too simple of a concept, but that is how i see it.
Markets do need regulated, but that being said should also operate as free as possible. Regulation that keeps people from over leveraging a position for example is necessary but not regulation that arbitrarily forces or manipulates prices. That just creates inefficiencies and bubbles destined to bust. Eg, forced acceptance of loans (fairness in lending act) now if you reward loans based on qualification you are following capitalism, but when you grant incentives based on need, is it not
Marxism at its finest. It creates a system destined for failure.
Capitalism, and consumer choice are the best measures for whether an item is over-priced or not. As long as a consumer is able to obtain something of greater value by purchasing something then that money used to purchase it, the consumer will. Its referred to as marginal utility. If the item is of lessor value then the cost, the corporation will either stop producing the item or go out of business. Ayn Rand wrote a great
essay on the principles of a free market and keeping their regulation as conservative as possible. Hope this overview helped a little, and it appears that you already understood it correctly. You are right, it seems simplistic, because it is
This will be a teachable moment for the sheeple of how their Constitution works. Thank God they passed the bill for a final vote fat 7AM tomorrow morning and hopefully it passes and Obama signs it into law.
We can then start formal Impeachment proceedings against Obama for Treason.
Never before in the history of our country did the administration and congress do such a thing to us in violation of the takings clause of our Constitution.
Eisenhower57% Kennedy30% LBJ47% Nixon53% Ford42% Carter32% Reagan56% GHWB51% Clinton39% GWB55% Obama8% And these idiots are holding a "job summit" LOL
True he has to hold a job summit to see who he can buy off. These liberals are like debating three year old kids. They resort to name calling, then threatening. Liberals are very angry people who want to kill off kids, the elderly, and the rest of us who know they just want handouts paid for by others.
Agreed. Hours of mind numbing entertainment. How is it we have created such stupidity, oh yeah, we let them infiltrate our universities. I so enjoyed debating my professors on these issues, they usually silenced me when they started to slip, but at least they conducted a marginally linear discourse. Not like most of these internet libs
Correction, it cost $32,500 and I get $3,250 rebate back from BO's cash for house clunker rebate. I'll take the cash, I may be stupid, but I'm not crazy.
Thanks, I think you just identified the reason for the worst economic performance since your Great Depression! Touche! You OWN Bush!
What a difference a few months make. Then: I lost over 50% in 2008. Now: paid off house 6 years early, retired, waiting on a new car to come in that I am paying CASH for! Life is good again! I made $3147 today!
You don't call an electrician to fix your toilet. Likewise, you don't call a failed CEO to govern. REMEMBER 2008!!
And we have been over the causes of the financial collapse, that you bring it up again even though you are completely aware that it was liberal legislation driven is pathetic:(
TrueUSAPatriots: No, *I* have been all over the causes of your economic collapse. I gave you a laundry list of ironclad sources and OK, that wasn't long ago, but still, all you do is recite Faux News talking points, forgetting that this actually started in 2007 (2001 really). Who was in the WH then? A poor person trying to buy a house from someone who would say anything to get a commission? No. It was The Decider!
Maybe someday you'll face reality like I did. I found the research stimulating.
You tell everyone about why no one listens to liberals who have no facts, just bloated overhyped opinions. Tell me how many people have you threatened to kill, already? I bet you're just lefty with a different name, Huh? Keyboard comando.
Truthinmidamerica: Little boy, you keep repeating yourself. Are you incapable of an original thought? Oh wait - look who I'm asking. Silly question.
And it's "commando," Einstein. You must be the one making signs at teabagger riots. I liked "NO PUBIC OPTION." HAHAHA!
There he is again, people, your typical conservative "comando" intellectual who must have not gotten past the 6th grade. Seeya down at the trailer park!
Armaloser the 6th grade is still above you. Still trying to insult, but your brain is like a gun with no bullets. I bet you had to run from the kids at your school after making idiotic threats.
did he spell out robert byrd?? NOOOOO
userid8765 1 year ago
why are those who aren't christian so afraid of christian prayers?
joncmaxwell 1 year ago
my ex was such a freakin creeper.. he used to suck on my nipples like a giant vag
nancycamryn397 2 years ago
OBAMA IS A COMMIE!
imabeatlelover4 2 years ago
This is what happens when a handful of greedy bastards cant stop filling their bank accounts with American blood! Yes the republicans are responsible and the democrats for not keeping an eye on the baby, now the baby is sick because he ate too much candy!!!! We are screwed, thank God we hired Barack Obama to help us, imagine if John Mccain was president, Id say kill me now!
yeahokay1100 2 years ago
Americans, we should have GWB and the entire congress investigated for fraud and debt spending out of control over the last decade. This is a NATIONAL TRAGEDY, that our country was at a surplus and the deficit wasnt an issue, now One decade later our entire future is in the hands of China? WTF? Did I just wake up and unemployement is at an all time high, everybody is on welfare, social security, unemployement, or some type of govt assistance? Come on America we are better than this.
yeahokay1100 2 years ago
You stupid moron. The dot-com bubble and the capital gains taxes from those gains is what created the surplus. Three months into GWB's first term the the bubble burst and the stock market crashed wiping out 7 trillion dollars of value. That's why the surplus disappeared. But you are too stupid to understand that fact.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
it was also the drastic cut in militay spending and drastic cuts into retired military benifits, drastic cuts to military hospitals, drastic cuts to the native american treaties, drastic cuts in national forrest services, etc, etc, etc, oh yeah and increased income taxes, yet decreased import/export taxes to promote NAFTA.
hawaiidiver68 2 years ago
the entire congress? ya know that your precious hillary and barry are innocent of any of those charges, they were the only voices that were against all of this spending--oh wait, no they weren't. Why do people insist that GWB acted on his own accord without regard to congress, do you honestly think that he would have 8 yrs in office if he had been so totally dictatorial? and if everybody was in on it, then that means hillary and barry as well.
hawaiidiver68 2 years ago
All you fucking control freaks can go fuck yourselves. You can go fuck yourselves so hard your ass holes burn. All you get from Santa this year is coal in your fucking stockings. You're lucky that you get that. If it was up to me, you would get fucking nothing. So go fuck yourselves you fucking control freaks, fuck you and have a nice day.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
@Michaelwiseguy Grumpy, grumpy!
TheLeftyGrove 2 years ago
i take it you dont have auto insurance either?
hawaiidiver68 2 years ago
Yeah, pray democracy fails.
7jerryv7 2 years ago
Russia is working on developing new nuclear weapons. Wait I thought that the Kremlin and BHO with his mastery in negotiations struck up a nuclear treaty with Medvedev. This is most confusing, but then again is "the dream of a nuclear free world" what a clown, is he going to uninvent them?
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
Israel has about 300 nukes now. I don't know why we are fretting over Iran.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
@Michaelwiseguy
Because Iran has vowed Israels destruction for years, ours as well. We are "Great Satan" after all.
I'd much rather see a country that has done everything, even giving away Gaza in pursuit of peace have nukes then Iran. To hasten the return of the Mahdi / 12th Imam, Ahmawhckjob has stated on many occasions the world must be rid of the US and Israel
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
@Michaelwiseguy
LOL, nukes might:)
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
And we have MAD. Mutually assured destruction. It's a great deterrent. Besides if Iran ever did anything, We would turn the whole country into a sheet of glass in about 30 minutes.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
@Michaelwiseguy
I am more worried about an EMP attack from a small nuke, supplied by one of these countries that do not seem to be concerned with mutually assured destruction. Even a small nuke, could literally "nuke" any sensitive electronics in the US, if fired by even a SR missile and detonated above our atmosphere.
Iran has done dry runs firing missiles from moving cargo ships etc, and has even threatened the EMP attack
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
@TrueUSAPatriots
Something else that is scary about the EMP attack is if it detonated high enough, there is a lot of speculation that we would ever know the source of the Uranium, our sniffer planes wouldn't even be an option
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
EMP is being considerer by the Builderberg elite in a false flag attack to shut down the Internet and communications. Sovereign countries don't consider anything of the sort considering our counter strike capabilities. Out satellites would spot who, what, where, and when almost instantly. Make my day Builderberg, Instantly bankrupt Google, Microsoft, Apple, Cisco, Ebay, Amazon, Fedex, UPS and others.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
@Michaelwiseguy
I didn't think about the satellites for spotting the ship, that is an interesting point. So say we detain the ship, and it turns out to be a Chinese Cargo liner with a Saudi Arabian crew. We would still have no idea where the nuke came from.
As for the make my day Builderberg part, I like fed ex, ya the rest can go
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
Coburn is a sick person.
DillonX 2 years ago
We need to arrest that honky Obama for treason.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
Can we please arrest Barry Obama for Treason now?
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
Liberal politics 101.
If you see a fat man, he got fat at the expense of the skinny man standing beside him.
If you cant trust gooberment plans, who can you trust?(SS bankrupt, medicare soon to be, fairness in lending wrecked the global economy, rent control, school lunches once 5% now 60%, HC miserably fails in 3 states, welfare has produced more poor per capita since before programs existed, Doe funding results in an inverse SAT score, GW cult like pandering) Yay hurray gooberment
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
You mean like HMO's? NAFTA? and lets not get me started on TANF. It has always been the dem stand to get people off of welfare, and into the job market when the reps took over the south, it then became the mantle of the rep party to get everybody off of welfare and into the job market. what everybody fails to see is that in order to have a middle, you have to have a top and a bottom, the poor are mandatory in our society, there would be no middle class without them
hawaiidiver68 2 years ago
I'm sure our country's Founding Fathers are up there praying along with us for one of those Dems to be dead by the morning, or perhaps they are letting the Dems do what they are doing so they bury themselves. I don't know what they are thinking, but the stakes are really high.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
The dems were quite fervent in their opposition to the Civil rights movement as well.
Most don't know but Roosevelt was a pretty outspoken antisemite. He took a lot of heat for not specifically targeting death camps in WWII.
Dems just pander votes, they have no commitment to any issues. The more dependents they can create, the more votes they can get. They don't care about how bad that is for the country, they're just pandering votes. Its pathetic
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
The leftists pattern indicates two dimensional thinking. Their whole lives revolve around and are based on human interest stories which their MSM bombard them with 24/7/365.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
TrueUSAPatriots, revisionist: Civil rights: Name one, ONE, civil rights bill authored and passed by the republic party in the 1960s.
Some Dems opposed civil rights, but what you either are ignorant of or hide is that those Dems left the party for the Dixicrats or your party. LBJ said his pro-America stand on civil rights could cost him the party in the South and he was right. Racists were welcomed into your party. Ever hear of the Southern Strategy? You still own that sad chapter of history.
armadilloze 2 years ago
some dems? 93% dems and 100% reps in the south opposed the the civil rights act of 1964, but them there were only 11 reps in the south then. it was the north that passed the bill, it had nothing to do with rep or dem, just north and south. yeah, LBJ lost the south, and it is for much longer than the generation that he thought it would be too. stand back and you will see that both parties have good and bad, taking care of our country is what counts, not what party you belong to.
hawaiidiver68 2 years ago
we have had all parties take us into war, and bring us out of it. we have had all parties corrupted and all parties bring justice back. liberals have good ideas, so do conservatives, but lately it seems only the wing nuts have had their say. I think this country is worth conserving, but there is parts of it, as we grow and change that need to change as well. if we are not willing to work with our neighbor, then we have no right to bitch about what is being done.
hawaiidiver68 2 years ago
Hawaii your a true liberal who thinks he can misconstrue the constitution so he can trash it. The founding fathers believed in a limited goverment. You need to read the federalist papers to truely understand it. I'm sorry changing it to accomadate huge spending increases and taking freedoms away from the people is why the dems will lose in the next elections. As Jefferson said a person willing to give up freedom for security doesn't deserve either.
Truthinmidamerica 2 years ago
laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths disclosed, and manners and opinions change with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also, and keep pace with the times. What does that mean to you??? Was Jefferson just wasting time when he said this?
hawaiidiver68 2 years ago
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; and what does that mean to you?
hawaiidiver68 2 years ago
I understand that a limited gov was desired, but as man progressed, so did his greed and corruption. When local and state cannot and will not control this, then THE PEOPLE have the RIGHT to ask the federal gov in to step in. This bill totally pisses me off as it does absolutely nothing for healthcare costs. But then again, i didn't vote for obama, as I knew he didn't have what it took to withstand the ins companies. This 'do nothing' mentality has to stop, it isn't getting us anywhere
hawaiidiver68 2 years ago
The majority of dems opposed civil rights, that was my point. This is easily fact checked, and yet the majority of the reps backed it, hence the reason we were coined the "black party"
As far as LBJ goes,he did the Blacks no favors, he just created dependency by doing what dems are famous for, buying votes. LBJ used welfare instead of cash to buy votes, yep, dems are famous for that to.Bottom line, basic econ will tell you the fastest way to depress a population or region is through welfare
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
TP: Yes, a majority of southern Dems opposed civil rights, but being either ignorant or disingenuous or both, you don't give the whole story: they left for the still-racist "Southern Strategy" republic party. I doubt you know the first to find comfort there. Hint: it was in 1964. Do some research and stop embarrassing yourself.
Point is, if it were wrong while they were Dems, it was STILL wrong when they joined your racist republic party, so you are really condemning your own party. HAHAHA!
armadilloze 2 years ago
@armadilloze
Nationally, to address the south only in a war that involved both N and S is called skewing the Data, something lefties ar famous for as well
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
TP: The Civil War ended in 1865. What does that have to do with 1964, the year your racist hero left the Dems because their platform was too pro-America for him?
Still waiting for a list of civil rights legislation authored and passed by the republic party during the civil rights era. For extra credit, which party did do that?
What about today? Which party is favored by the KKK and the black helicopter set? Which party wants to repeal civil rights legislation?
Another no reply = you lose.
armadilloze 2 years ago
"From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are."
-Richard Nixon 1970
armadilloze 2 years ago
If we are going to respect the Constitution, the Federal Government can really only do what is authorized(only 18 things). Anything that is not authorized in Article 1, Section 8 is Unconstitutional. Which is probably 99.9% of all laws passed.
So, where in the Constitution does it give the Congress the power to pass a law forcing me to pay 8% of my income for health insurance regardless of whether or not I desire to purchase of Health Insurance?
RyanForLiberty 2 years ago
Thats, because they never bother to read the federalist papers that tell that are founding fathers wanted a limited federal goverment. People hear free and thats all they hear.
Truthinmidamerica 2 years ago
Once again, when the people demand that something be done, then it has to be done. we talk majority rule here, not individual desires. Now I am against the majority of this bill, I believe it to be a train wreck, and it will cost tax payers more money fighting it in the SC that it really is worth. But you cannot sit there adn say that nothing needs to be done. since nothing is being done on the local and state level, the people have demanded that the fed step in.
hawaiidiver68 2 years ago
so, where in the constitution does it deny the peoplethe right to demand a change be made? This bill is not for the welfare state, it is for the working poor. part of id does make sense, a lot of it doesn't, but change still needs to be made.
WalMart can hire you part-time and still continue to work you full time, avoiding the local laws to provide ft employees health care. it isn't the middle class that is getting screwed, it is the working poor, are you looking out for them?
hawaiidiver68 2 years ago
@hawaiidiver68 If you want an unconstitutional change, it must be at the state level according to the 10th Amendment. This bill forces everyone to buy Health Insurance, even the working poor who can't afford it. Where is that authorized in the Constitution? Was there a new Amendment to the Constitution I haven't heard of?
You are the one who volunteered to work at WalMart under those conditions, volunteer to leave if you don't like it.
RyanForLiberty 2 years ago
@hawaiidiver68 If you understand the architecture of the Constitution you would realize, as Barack Obama has said, that it is a document of negative liberties regarding the power of the the Federal Government (see Article 1, Section 8 for the powers Congress Constitutionally has). It lists the powers that the Congress has, and it explicitly says that if the power isn't mentioned it is reserved by the states or the people(10th Amendment).
RyanForLiberty 2 years ago
Article1, Section 8: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
then it lists some of the specifics. But the constitution is a fluid document, designed with vague, large scoped ideologies to allow for chage as times and needs change.
hawaiidiver68 2 years ago
Another lefty mole hill into a mountain. Geeze
Yereviltwin2 2 years ago
If someone prays to avoid a thief showing up to plunder his home, few religious people would take issue with such a prayer. From that perspective, I see nothing inconsistent to pray to avoid a Congressman showing up to vote to plunder one's freedom and property, which is much more important. As far as atheists, I don't see why they should care one way or the other. I see no hypocrisy in this suggestion by Senator Coburn.
jefferygentry 2 years ago
The Leftists are much more easily screwer over when their party is in power. Screwed over by their own party by their own mainstream media and that's because they don't even know it. I get a chuckle out of it.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
@Michaelwiseguy
That's because its no longer a party, its a religion. They're a theocracy now. They have flopped on issues more times on issues then a french hermaphrodite hooker switches sides. But I agree, it is amusing
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
It will take a lot of pain and suffering dished out by BO and their congresscritters to them, to shake their faith. I'm ROTFLMAO they bought the Man-made global warming hoax. I'm working on a plan to use the knowledge how they are easily controlled through the known methods to get my chance to fleece them.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
@Michaelwiseguy
I wish you the best of luck in that regard. I have debated so many climate sheeple. Their number one answer is, the scientists told me so. It is a dangerous game that our leader is playing by buying into this crap. And why isn't the Heidelberg treaty getting more attention? I wonder
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
True these leftyinsulters know very little of history or economics. If they bothered stopping their irrational hate they might learn that everytime that fdr activated a program the depression got worse. They can't even fathom that jfk gave the largest tax cuts of all. They can't understand that Clinton didn't even have a chance at reelection intill he adopted conservitive spending policies and dropped the left wing economic policies that where driving his numbers down.
Truthinmidamerica 2 years ago
I was only kidding about fleecing them as I find the practice repulsive, but it would be just so easy.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
@Michaelwiseguy
We should just lock them outside in "The global warming effected" Hopenhagen, they would be sure to freeze to death in under an hr, LOL
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
@Michaelwiseguy
Actually I would be all for fleecing them as well, strictly in the monetary sense though. After all, they have fleeced us for yrs
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
When it finally sinks in to those Europeans that the AGW thing is a hoax, there will be much screaming and weeping and gnashing of teeth. They'll probably burn down the EU parliament building down too.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
Yeah, they where duped by their goverments so they could fill their coffers.
Truthinmidamerica 2 years ago
Something needs to be done about the earmark bribery scam going on in Washington all the time. I'm not against earmarks, I'm just against the way they are used as bribes. Perhaps there should be a bill introduced requiring earmarks to be in earmark only bills.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
Why do you think his party pushed the stim package. He had to have something to buy the Dr unions, the ins company endorsement, a hundred mill to Dodd, a hundred mil to Nelson. I bet we have barely scratched the surface
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
If these people really cared about people in the back pocket of corporations they would look into Chris Dodd and see why he is taking more money than anyone else.
Truthinmidamerica 2 years ago
One can hope. They will probably burn down the Conservation Bank that owns their currency as well. I wonder if this could be why Mourice Strong is hiding in China.
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
The American people ought to pray that DICK Durbin has a worthy opponent and soundely DEFEATS him in the next election. Now THAT would be an awsome miracle for the Illinois and the country.
ruthelator 2 years ago
Republicans = Taliban
Limbaugh = bin Laden
Christian Right = Muslim Extremists
TheLeftyGrove 2 years ago
Obama for Treason
blt40 2 years ago
armadilloz
The sad thing is you libs are so far out of touch with reality that you don't even remember the recession of 01, that yes "bush inherited" It was as bad in real terms as the 08 collapse, but we bounced right out of it. I wonder why that is?
What we are witnessing is the recession being elongated and amplified by Roosevelt economics and poor liberal policies.
Business's aren't about to hire new employees, they are too scared of what foolish policy will come down the pipeline next
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
@TrueUSAPatriots LOL. Hilarious seeing a Glenn Beck wingnut trying to discuss economics.
Absolutely clueless. Of course, if you had a clue, you wouldn't be a Republican, now, would you?
TheLeftyGrove 2 years ago
TrueUSAPatriots: Having not studied this issue, you probably didn't know that historically, employment lags recovery. Look at any recession for confirmation. Your last para is speculation and nothing more.
And "Bush inherited" a surplus, too, whereas Obama has Bush's debt AND massive unemployment to deal with.
The recession is being elongated by the almost unprecedented depth of conservative failure 2001-2008. That SHOULD not need explaining. Duh. Come back to basic reality, please!
armadilloze 2 years ago
@armadilloze
I am an econ major and hold an mba in finance. I am pretty sure I am qualified on the issue. Look at the 01 recession, the recovery, even in unemployment was nearly instant. One of the functions that the fair market hypothesis will never smooth is referred to as the congress function. I suggest you look it up.
A surplus, LOL. Generated by closing countless military bases. And BTW the Unemployment never went over 6 with bush. Didn't BHO promise it wouldn't go over 8?
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
@TrueUSAWingnut: One would think as an econ major you would be qualified, but clearly you are not.
01 was dropping a pea on the ground compared to DUBYA's earthquake in 08. If you honestly think that the two can be compared, you need to go back to school.
TheLeftyGrove 2 years ago
@TheLeftyGrove
Not in the initial phases. Yes Roosevelt economics have forced a slow recovery, but in real terms both recessions were quite similar monetarily. It is breadth, not depth that has made this one worst, and that is a political component.
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
@TrueUSAPatriots Wow. You couldn't be more clueless. Dubya's and Republicans' complete and utter incompetence drove this to be by FAR the closest thing to the great Depression, before Obama even took over.
You're right; there is a political component. The moronic and ever-stupid Republicans have literally taken our economy down the tubes through rich giveaways, stupid wars, and absolute lack of regulatory oversight.
TheLeftyGrove 2 years ago
And your party is different how?
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago 2
Funny, how you and amaloser are never on at the same time. It looks like you have to change names to keep your ignorant hate filled insults and empty threats coming. Tell me Mr. Angry insulter why do you have to pretend to a man? Tell me why you can list one fact? Tell me why all you can do is call names and act stupid. Are you being abused by your parents?
Truthinmidamerica 2 years ago 2
@TheLeftyGrove
Sorry buddy, just graph the market back to the 1900s. The fall wasn't that bad, its the recovery that has the US "flat lining" LOL
When the rich make money, they employ people and make more. They also fund your welfare through taxation. "stupid wars" didn't BHO say "afg was the fight we should be fighting" Besides, the dems led us into every war of the 20th century and 3 conflicts of the 21st, so you shouldn't talk about wars, you will lose that one too:(
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
TrueUSAPatriots: A MBA in Finance? I'm shocked! You come across like someone who has never ventured outside Glenn Beck, since you actually believe a few po' people somehow had the power to bring down the whole economy with no outside help.
An advisor mentioned 8% in early Jan, not Obama. However, this was BEFORE the last quarter's numbers showed how bad conservatism had been to our economy. This was widely reported except on Faux News, which explains why you are still relying on that story. :)
armadilloze 2 years ago
@armadilloze
Try the leader of the largest economy in the world, yeah, pretty sure that could have some effect. Just look at good ole Rahm's statement "let no good disaster go to waste"
Obama mentioned it when he sold the Stim package, it was in one of his speeches and is probably on YT.
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
TP: Find it, I'm waiting.
Here's the deal: Bad loans made by commissioned salesmen who would promise anything. Economy could withstand that. Look up "credit default swaps." These were unbacked "insurance" on loans, a conservative Wall St. creation. They were called in, and THAT is what caused your collapse. Frank and po fokes had nothing to do with those. That, and unregulated derivative trading. You own deregulation and lax regulation. See Frontline for the actual history you are unaware of.
armadilloze 2 years ago
TP: Here's the bottom line. I have already made $9913 in the stock market today and it's only 9:30. That is a big FUCK YOU to all those who voted to continue BushCult's downward slide. Remember, when you vote against lib's prosperity, you also vote against your own prosperity. HAHAHA!
On the depth of your slide, you apparently have never seen a chart with this and other recessions together. No comparison. Look it up and stop embarrassing yourself.
Damn. Stock still rising... What a difference.
armadilloze 2 years ago 2
I made $241,000 tricking the banksters into giving me one of their beautiful foreclosed houses 3.5 miles from the beach for $29,250 last month.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
NotSoWise: That's good! Some skin in the game will influence your 2010 vote! You can vote to repeat 2007-2008, or repeat 2009. Remember WcBush could not point to one thing different from Bush's failed efforts. Look at recent housing numbers, then look at 2001-2008. Just vote your own interests this time.
All indicators WAY up today - jobs, mfg, housing. Bad news for conservatives, good news for America. And I'm up another $2,804 since $9913 at 9:30, $15,817 for the last two days. Thanks Obama!
armadilloze 2 years ago
No skin, mortgage!
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
No skin, no mortgage! Looking forward to option arms and commercial blowing up.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
House paid off, SUV paid off, boat paid off. No secured debt. FU banksters. FU Wall Street!
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
@Michaelwiseguy Made $241,000 instantly? Doubt it.
TheLeftyGrove 2 years ago
@TheLeftyGrove
Lemme guess, if he did, you think he did it at the expense of someone else
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
It's called equity. House sold new in 2006 for $311,000. Bought 2 months ago from Deutsche Bank through Indy Mac total after rebate for $29,250 because I know what the market is doing and what the banks are doing and some tricks I know how to use. Same model new now going for 225K so lets just call it about $200k equity. I fully expect the equity to be cut in half in 2010 when the next big wave of foreclosures hit. The only ones I got over on were the banksters, and they deserved what they got.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
@Michaelwiseguy
Bingo, you would think that people forgot about the modified/hybrid loans that are going to be ending their fixed period soon
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
@Michaelwiseguy LOL! "Equity". Funny. Basing your equity on what something sold for in 2006 is hilarious.
P.S. Hate to break this to you, but if you did pull one over, you are just as big of a weasel as the bankers. All you did was take the banks' money that they stole from a hard-working American.
Good job. You're quite a patriot.
TheLeftyGrove 2 years ago
I also recommend everyone under water on their mortgage stop paying their mortgage and stick it to the banksters who are stealing the peoples money, and live in their homes for free as long as they can. My neighbor took my advice 18 months ago and I saved them $36K since then.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
LOL now you are an econ major with an mba in finance? Earlier, you said you have a physics degree and alluded to being a physicist and claiming that there is a "fundamental theory of gravity". so... whats the fundamental theory of economics? LOL...
adamchou 2 years ago
@adamchou
I was going to be an engineer, I switched majors my senior yr, but still got my degree.
Fundamental theory of econ would be capitalism being the most efficient market.
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
@adamchou
Someone else called me a physicist BTW in jest
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
why would you want to be a physics major if you're going to be an engineer? there are various engineering majors. that doesn't make sense to me.
either way, i was being sarcastic about fundamental theory of econ... i was just discrediting your claim of an understanding of physics by you claiming there to be a fundamental theory of gravity and extrapolating that to econ. however, i digress on that. i didn't read at all any of your positions on econ which may be completely correct
adamchou 2 years ago
@adamchou
There are many different engineers my dimwitted friend.
Look up Gravitrons, there was speculation on magnetism for a while as well, but the Gravitron theory has more of a backing.
The initial theories were simply that objects of mass were attracted to one another. Do you want to debate anything in particular or just issue ad hominem statements?
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
@TrueUSAPatriots dimwitt? lol... and who's making the ad hominem attacks? i haven't made any ad hominem attacks against you. just in case you forgot, ad hominem requires the attack to be an IRRELEVANT aspect of the person's character.
its graviton NOT gravitron and they are way too hypothetical to be considered for a fundamental theory of gravity.
the only thing i really wanted to debate with you was your so called... "fundamental theory of physics". so... do you got anything else to back it?
adamchou 2 years ago
@adamchou
You attack me rather then issues of debate, how would that be relevant again? And it is gravitron, at least it was in the paper I saw it presented in, alas it has been about 5 yrs, but you will probably find it spelled either way if you search.
Cool, then let us debate physics. I would enjoy that. What theories would you like to debate
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
@TrueUSAPatriots i never attacked you other than to discredit your understanding of physics in this statement: "I resort to vocabulary and science. One of my degrees is in Physics. You do realize that the fundamental theory of gravity is actually back on the table for debate, don't you?"
in which case, it is relevant because you claim an understanding of physics which i attempted to discredit.
adamchou 2 years ago
@adamchou
Do you deny that the theory is still the subject of debate. This and only this is the way you can deny the premise.
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
@TrueUSAPatriots i never attacked anyone's party so i don't know why you keep bringing that up.... its called reading comprehension, you should try it some time.
and i never misquoted you. in fact, i quoted you VERBATIM via copy/paste.
and i never denied that we are debating existence of a fundamental theory of gravity. i do accept that there is a theory of gravity, but thats not what your claim was.
adamchou 2 years ago
@adamchou
Well then I wasn't very careful with my wording now was I? You attack people who take a clearly Right, and increasingly middle stance(as the middle is polling to the right) for their political statements. That puts you on the left, fact.
Do you accept that the theory is still the subject of debate? The initial theory was yes, that of Isac Newton, and its premise being objects of mass attract.
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
@TrueUSAPatriots first off, i don't know the political stance of the people that i attack. that, however, does not put me opposite to them because i am not arguing something political that is specific to their party. so that doesn't put me on the left.
last night, it was about practicing religion in govrenment, not its existence. don't try to misconstrue my arguments to use them to affirm yours.
ps i LOVE that tactic. make a statement, then claim it as fact. your arguments are weak, FACT. LOL.
adamchou 2 years ago
@adamchou
You are a fun little nitwit. I enjoyed debating the God of the gaps with you. But if you are going to debate religion, you should know that the faith you employ in believing that their is no God is the same as the faith that someone who believes employs. The believer however admits in reliance on faith, while the not believer hypocritically denies it.
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
@TrueUSAPatriots dude, whats wrong with you? your memory totally sucks or you're partially retarded. i never argued god of the gaps with you. that was someone else. i just quoted one thing you said to that person.
and why are you trying to change this debate into faith and religion? i wanted to continue mocking your claim to a fundamental theory of gravity. so again, do you concede defeat or do you have something more substantive to support your claim?
adamchou 2 years ago
@adamchou
I was debating that the is a God, I suppose that it is possible that you walked in in the middle of that debate?
But if you want to argue a theory, you are going to have to present it. I presented Isaac Newtons theory of gravity, but said that it was still on the floor for debate, and it is. So again, how am I wrong?
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
@adamchou
I am not going to accused "your memory of sucking" but you would do well to look back at the comments from the debate last night, it was clearly religious.
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
@TrueUSAPatriots
regarding gravity, until about 15 minutes ago, you never said it was specifically newton's theory up for debate. you said the
"fundamental theory of gravity" was up for debate. again, i implore you to backup your claim to the existence of a fundamental theory. newton's theory has long since been considered a fundamental theory.
adamchou 2 years ago
@TrueUSAPatriots in fact, newton even suspected there were holes in his theory. further, there is no fundamental theory of gravity because no theory can consolidate gravity's behavior at the cosmic level and the quantum level, nor has any theory ever existed. so again... what is your claim to a fundamental theory of gravity?
adamchou 2 years ago
@adamchou
I challenge that every theory is fundamental initially when it is presented and accepted by the scientific community. Please, one of my textbooks is called "Fundimental Theories of Phisics" You make me laugh buddy.
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
@TrueUSAPatriots ok.. then again, which theory of gravity is fundamental? additionally, provide references to something peer reviewed or equatable that supports your claim that whichever theory you choose is considered fundamental. btw, since you didn't know, fundamental theory of physics is not the same as fundamental theory of physics.
i'm glad my comment about your weak arguments made you laugh. it made me laugh too.
adamchou 2 years ago
@adamchou
I already told you. And whose argument is weak again, you deny debating religion when that was clearly the debate that you have resumed? Now you are boring me. Search fundamental theories of physics, you will find Isaac Newtons.
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
@TrueUSAPatriots woops... i meant fundamental theory of physics is not the same as fundamental theory of gravity. but... i'll let you have that one. you can ridicule my temporary lapse while in continue to ridicule your fabrication of physics theorems.
adamchou 2 years ago
@adamchou
Unlike you i wont use it as a reason to attack, I don't need it.
I don't normally recommend wiki, as it is open source, but you should look at it. There is about 20 individual, and now considered fundamental theories of gravity. It doesn't help the argument that the gaps are being filled. There were a few theories that I have never even heard of and even they are called fundamental. The most widely taught is still Isaac Newtons, so that is what I would call fundamental.
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
@TrueUSAPatriots ok... if you're going to say asinine things like that, i can't argue against you... but if there are 20 different theories on gravity, how can one be fundamental? you just contradicted yourself and proved for me my point. THERE IS NO FUNDAMENTAL THEORY OF GRAVITY.
and again... i said i debated using religion in government which most would consider a debate on constitutional law. so it was not religious, as you said, it was political.
adamchou 2 years ago
@adamchou
I was hoping that you were going to try to debate a theory, but alas this was just a semantic discussion, sad so sad. They are considered fundamental as soon as they are conceded as plausible explanations.
But since you want to debate semantics and not science, I would challenge that given the definition of fundamental, the theory that was deemed plausible for the longest period, and taught for the longest period and went un challenged for the longest period is the fundamental one
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
@TrueUSAPatriots WOW. it took you this long to figure out i was arguing with you the existence of a fundamental theory of physics? just... WOW. i don't know why its sad for you since you seem to have so many reading comprehension issues. understanding semantics should be educational for you.
you said you had a text book named "Fundimental Theories of Phisics". i suggest you pick up a book on spelling first. did you just make that up or does it exist? whats the ISBN? I can't find it.
adamchou 2 years ago
@TrueUSAPatriots i assume your attempt to change the topic is because you can't prove that the physics community does not recognize a fundamental theory with respects to gravity... because it doesn't exist. so me +1, you -100. now on to something more interesting... evolution. i'm going to bet you think it doesn't exist.
adamchou 2 years ago
@adamchou
Evolution exists within species, but I have seen no evidence that there are changes in DNA so significant that it would lead to another species.
Most the time if you see a significant change or mutation in the wild, the offspring is instantly killed.
I doubt you will actually debate this as you debated nothing about theories in the first place. And yes please do yourself a favor and look it up, there is a "fundamental theory" on almost everything.
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
@TrueUSAPatriots @TrueUSAPatriots so you couldn't produce an isbn... is this another thing you made up? damn dude, stop fabricating stuff to create an argument. its pretty lame. and there is a fundamental theory on almost everything, but not everything.... gravity inclusive.
now as for evolution... a long term study was recently done (30 years) on e. coli in a controlled environment and they were actually able to have e. coli evolve into what many scientists consider a different species.
adamchou 2 years ago
@adamchou
Its sold back ages ago, it was written by I believe Segway and F??? I believe the name is Faun or something to that effect.
E coli isn't a species at all you idiot. Its a bacteria, perhaps its bonding sites shifted, happens all the time with virus's. But I would stake the stimulus package that it didn't turn into a frog, or a rabbit. You tool
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
adamchou 2 years ago
@adamchou
The argument is on species change, not changing the subject. Everything is classified through standard protocol, the domain is what determines species and I called it yes a bacteria, now if it turned into a protozoa or something you may have a point.
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
@TrueUSAPatriots omg you're fucking retarded. you said: "E coli isn't a species at all you idiot". And dude, you have a serious misunderstanding of the biological taxonomic system if you think domain is what determines a species is. so severe, in fact, that i can't even argue this with you... its going to be like arguing with a retard. oh.. wait, i am arguing with a retard.
adamchou 2 years ago
@adamchou
Then please enlighten me, which is the species if not the domain?
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
@TrueUSAPatriots wth are you talking about? what do you mean which is the species? e. coli is the species. bacteria is the domain. i just explicitly listed it out for you. are your reading skills really that bad?
adamchou 2 years ago
@adamchou
I saw it and saw standard classification protocol, didn't read the last line. Already admitted guilt. The funny thing was you thought that species change was actually relevant.
If it was species's would still be changing, we would have humanchimps running around in the jungle, etc
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
@TrueUSAPatriots wth? now you're saying that species change isn't actually relevant? lemme quote what you said before... "Evolution exists within species, but I have seen no evidence that there are changes in DNA so significant that it would lead to another species."
i'm done arguing with you dude. you contradict yourself, you make weak arguments, you fabricate shit... flat out, you're a fucking idiot. i was right in my original assumption... your iq is the average youtuber's iq
adamchou 2 years ago
@adamchou
The claim from evolution is species' changing into new ones. I conceded that I was a believer in Micro, but not Macro evolution. Come on, how can people deny that most newborns will never have to have their wisdom teeth pulled, because they will have none. But I don't believe that a human will ever evolve into a alien, unless by way of legality.
What you are quoting is change w/ in species. You are the only fool in this debate
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
@TrueUSAPatriots
This fool attacks the semantics of species change as being the same a change across species. He has nothing but idiot semantics, its sad
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
@TrueUSAPatriots can you just stop being such a stubborn idiot and admit that there is no fundamental theory of gravity? just say it... adamchou, i am a fucking idiot and made up the fundamental theory of gravity
adamchou 2 years ago
@TrueUSAPatriots btw... i'll let you slide on this one but i feel the need to educate you, open source doesn't make something untrustworthy. firefox is opensource, parts of windows were built on opensource, this website is built on technology that is opensource. so don't slander opensource... it can be reputable
adamchou 2 years ago
@adamchou
Then worship wiki if you wish, but don't cite it in any papers that you want to earn a passing grade on.
I am bored with semantics, if you want to discuss politics, or science, I am game. But semantics please, this is like the left would do. Oh you don't like welfare, "you hate poor people"
More evidence still that you are a lefty loony toon:) Cheers
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
TrueUSAPatriots: Wow, adamchou did a number on you. You really are a case. You're a physicist, an economist, and now you believe in a big hairy invisible guy who lives in the sky. Probably believe Adam and Eve rode to Sunday School on a dinosaur, too. A real chameleon.
So why do whales have pelvises, anyway? (rhetorical question, not wasting any more time on a closed-minded nut who believes in magic, not science.)
Sanford/Ensign Family Values 12
armadilloze 2 years ago
being that econ is not my specialty, nor even a real interest, let me pose a question, or twenty... If you keep pushing a market at the max of what it will bear, without regulating, how long will it take for that market to collapse? how long before the people quit buying because it is ridiculously overpriced and overburdened?? maybe that is just too simple of a concept, but that is how i see it.
hawaiidiver68 2 years ago
Markets do need regulated, but that being said should also operate as free as possible. Regulation that keeps people from over leveraging a position for example is necessary but not regulation that arbitrarily forces or manipulates prices. That just creates inefficiencies and bubbles destined to bust. Eg, forced acceptance of loans (fairness in lending act) now if you reward loans based on qualification you are following capitalism, but when you grant incentives based on need, is it not
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
Marxism at its finest. It creates a system destined for failure.
Capitalism, and consumer choice are the best measures for whether an item is over-priced or not. As long as a consumer is able to obtain something of greater value by purchasing something then that money used to purchase it, the consumer will. Its referred to as marginal utility. If the item is of lessor value then the cost, the corporation will either stop producing the item or go out of business. Ayn Rand wrote a great
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
essay on the principles of a free market and keeping their regulation as conservative as possible. Hope this overview helped a little, and it appears that you already understood it correctly. You are right, it seems simplistic, because it is
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
This will be a teachable moment for the sheeple of how their Constitution works. Thank God they passed the bill for a final vote fat 7AM tomorrow morning and hopefully it passes and Obama signs it into law.
We can then start formal Impeachment proceedings against Obama for Treason.
Never before in the history of our country did the administration and congress do such a thing to us in violation of the takings clause of our Constitution.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
True he has to hold a job summit to see who he can buy off. These liberals are like debating three year old kids. They resort to name calling, then threatening. Liberals are very angry people who want to kill off kids, the elderly, and the rest of us who know they just want handouts paid for by others.
Truthinmidamerica 2 years ago
@Truthinmidamerica
Agreed. Hours of mind numbing entertainment. How is it we have created such stupidity, oh yeah, we let them infiltrate our universities. I so enjoyed debating my professors on these issues, they usually silenced me when they started to slip, but at least they conducted a marginally linear discourse. Not like most of these internet libs
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
That's the sad part. These professors where the coward hippies who hid from the war, that by the way was started by their biggest hero jfk.
Truthinmidamerica 2 years ago
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armadilloze 2 years ago
I bought a 1900sf 2006 house for $35,500cash recently from one of you stupid libs.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
Correction, it cost $32,500 and I get $3,250 rebate back from BO's cash for house clunker rebate. I'll take the cash, I may be stupid, but I'm not crazy.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
The house originally sold for $311,000 in 2006.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
(corr)
TrueUSAPatriots: "GWB55%"
Thanks, I think you just identified the reason for the worst economic performance since your Great Depression! Touche! You OWN Bush!
What a difference a few months make. Then: I lost over 50% in 2008. Now: paid off house 6 years early, retired, waiting on a new car to come in that I am paying CASH for! Life is good again! I made $3147 today!
You don't call an electrician to fix your toilet. Likewise, you don't call a failed CEO to govern. REMEMBER 2008!!
armadilloze 2 years ago
@armadilloze
And we have been over the causes of the financial collapse, that you bring it up again even though you are completely aware that it was liberal legislation driven is pathetic:(
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
TrueUSAPatriots: No, *I* have been all over the causes of your economic collapse. I gave you a laundry list of ironclad sources and OK, that wasn't long ago, but still, all you do is recite Faux News talking points, forgetting that this actually started in 2007 (2001 really). Who was in the WH then? A poor person trying to buy a house from someone who would say anything to get a commission? No. It was The Decider!
Maybe someday you'll face reality like I did. I found the research stimulating.
armadilloze 2 years ago
I don't work, haven't worked in four years. I am John Galt.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
@Michaelwiseguy So you're a fictitious person thought up by a moron?
TheLeftyGrove 2 years ago
No, just someone who knows how everything works.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago
Past presidents whose cabinet members have actually worked in the private sector.
Roosevelt38%
Taft40%
Wilson42%
Harding49%
Coolidge48%
Hoover42%
FDR50%
Truman50%
TrueUSAPatriots 2 years ago
This guy tells you everything you need to know about "pro-life" conservatism. In their own words...
armadilloze 2 years ago
You tell everyone about why no one listens to liberals who have no facts, just bloated overhyped opinions. Tell me how many people have you threatened to kill, already? I bet you're just lefty with a different name, Huh? Keyboard comando.
Truthinmidamerica 2 years ago
Truthinmidamerica: Little boy, you keep repeating yourself. Are you incapable of an original thought? Oh wait - look who I'm asking. Silly question.
And it's "commando," Einstein. You must be the one making signs at teabagger riots. I liked "NO PUBIC OPTION." HAHAHA!
There he is again, people, your typical conservative "comando" intellectual who must have not gotten past the 6th grade. Seeya down at the trailer park!
This is too easy.
armadilloze 2 years ago
Armaloser the 6th grade is still above you. Still trying to insult, but your brain is like a gun with no bullets. I bet you had to run from the kids at your school after making idiotic threats.
Truthinmidamerica 2 years ago
Liesinmidamerica: Talk about insults, your entire message is nothing but! You are the personification of hypocrite! HAHAHA!
When it comes to you, I support English Only legislation. HAHAHA!
armadilloze 2 years ago
Human nature has not changed in 6,000 years. You are not going to change it now.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago