Jan 25, 1971

[jaredneedsalife]

Ha, wonder if squeaky fromme is still sitting there, the dappy bitch. still waiting for anarchy eh.

[cozener1]

Deluded shit heads. Theres a revolution coming.....lol

[Hanzey666]

Were staying here until charlie s out....... so now in 2011 they still sitting there on that side walk ???

[andrelebaron]

they're kind of like the people who did zeitgist.

[clouser67]

I wonder if these stupid cunts are still breathing. Sometimes I feel as though I'm stepping around their fat asses in the grocery store as they're selecting their cat food.

[jimpurdie]

what chance do u have when nixon says your guilty beyond a doubt on t.v.

[jimbowie09]

7 month trial, why! Crazy bunch of crap...

[hukablorp]

Which one of the Manson girls says "...a system where [a] man cannot defend himself—are you proud of it?" at 1:55?

[lianjie1963]

@hukablorp I believe that's Brenda (Nancy Pitman)

[hukablorp]

@lianjie1963 Thanks—that was my guess, as well.

[BettinaBalser]

@hukablorp That is Nancy Laura Pittman, aka Brenda McCann. Charlie made her "chief assassin" of The Family.

[bumcheek7]

offense

[naja46]

I bet those stupid bitches sitting outside the court feel stupid now . Sandra Good , the one with the big mouth , was (& probably still is) a complete nutter who talked out of her arse . Pathetic, the whole lot of them . I hope they all die in excrutiating pain like the murder victims did . Atkins is dead now & thank god for that , she is now rotting in hell & with a bit of luck , the rest of those sadistic animals will soon join her . They are all pure evil .

[cosmicfile]

charles is a coward and a pimp

[shelterskelter7]

@cosmicfile and a buttraper!

[adriannicus]

@cosmicfile pocket sized pimp, man he was tiny. 

[whiskybeauty2]

He'll be out-yeah, right Sandra. Only when he's dead!

[thimoneus]

Charles Manson is a stupid hobo.

[bumcheek7]

@thimoneus LOL! WANNABE HOBO! (US GOOD HOBOS TAKE OFFENCE!):))

[thimoneus]

@bumcheek7 Just don't try to convince people that you are Jesus the world revolutionary, and I'll be all right with that.

[bumcheek7]

@thimoneus Hell No! Religions are THE weapons of mass destruction. Actually, I don't understand your 'Jesus' reference...Was Jesus a good hobo or a bad hobo?

[thimoneus]

@bumcheek7 Charles Manson claimed to be Jesus (who is famous for supposedly being the messiah) and had a lot of naive psychopath kids believing it.

[bumcheek7]

@thimoneus Yeah and what's evenier crazier than Charlie is the fact that alot of kids/morons still do! He recieves more mail than like all the prisoners @ Lompoc combined, plus everywhere else. WHY won't he just die already?

[PoisonedLipgloss]

frogger some punk kid who probaly feels the need to go against authority

[PoisonedLipgloss]

Haha @Poe397 Frogger is just some lonely kid who needs attention doesnt get enough from him parents everyone knows by now Manson is guilty deserves to be where he is or dead, this trial was all over the media still is today if manson didnt do anything wrong or unfair trial it would be known

[m2frogger]

I'm a "Punk kid"? Meanwhile you don't have the ball's to come back to me on the comment thread's here on You Tube. I could only imagine what it would be like if you met me in the street.=]

Learn some fact's before you open up your mouth. With that kind of name..I think you open up your mouth quite a bit.

[TheJomogogo]

Nobody wants to waste their time on you, psychic hotline boy. Still getting straight A's in high school? LOLOLOL bend over and take it up the ass from your hero charlie he'll set ya free fag.

[PoisonedLipgloss]

im not saying wether or not i could fight u on the street what the hell are u onyeah cause it really takes balls o have a come back on a fucking comuter..ur fucked up, i actually have a life i needed to get back too unlike you apparently

[JanBelupo]

hahahaha,there is your mindset,asshole'the media said so'..yeah,the media NEVER lies,do they?Smug little pricks like you are pathetic,you read HS and think you have all the facts of the case down,and you dont.

[PoisonedLipgloss]

I never said the media doesnt lie EVER ..or that i knew all the facts of this case.. i stated a fact u need attention whitch is why ur doing this everyone knows he deserves to be in jail. im dont with it im not going to give u a fucking argument u have way to much time on ur handsif this is what u do in ur spare time

[m2frogger]

What I meant in the last comment. Kasabian only knew what happened at the murder sites. She never said anything about Charlie telling people to kill.

People who get convicted of conspiring to commit murder get less time than him anyway.

[Poe397]

He aint in there for commiting murder..and his case is unique.

[meannmrmustardd]

he may not have killed anyone himself,but he was convicted of 9 counts of 1st degree murder and conspiracy.....

[Poe397]

Dont get me wrong I know he is as guilty as the day is long ..I was just responding to some of these other Manson wannabe sicko's.

[Poe397]

She testified that Charlie told her and the other girls to "Go with Tex and do whatever he say's"

[Poe397]

The house was not picked at random either..Charlie was the only one that knew where it was and who was supposed to be there.

[JanBelupo]

Id love to know what this 'monumental evidence' he had against CM...a fuckin acid-heads stories to get herself off the hook?

[TheJomogogo]

Lot more than that dummy you obviously don't know one damn thing about the case. Educate yourself before asking such stupit fuckass questions.

[JanBelupo]

coming from someone whose only source of info is helter-skelter,you dont have the right to an opinion.Youre a fucking tool,son.And a bore.

[TheJomogogo]

As opposed to your info coming from charlie? Yeah it's not like he'd lie, good thinking shitbag.

[JanBelupo]

yes yes,listen son,idiots like you are all over youtube,self described 'experts' who have nothing but media lies.You really bore me.

[DREwestcoast]

dickhead

[m2frogger]

Poe you have to understand the fact that his case revolving around Manson is a lie. None of the families of the slayed never received money from his book deal's, and he is quoted saying.."When I saw the Manson case, I saw dollar sign's...I wanted to be remembered." You can find that in "Manson v.s. Bugliosi." He's a lying piggy.

[Poe397]

First off he didnt owe the family's any thing ..as for him making money off of a case he tried..fine its called capitalism..it's what this country is about. If you dont like it move somewhere else.

[m2frogger]

He had to give the family's of the slayed a share because he used their names. He also printed false fact's that were not proven..."He boasts 35 murder's and counting". Where is the bodies to prove it? "He told people to kill." Where's the proof? I know four people killed...but not because he told them too. Capitalism will die and so will every other kind of Government when Armageddon or "Helter Skelter" comes.

[Poe397]

Again you are showing naivete...he didnt say they killed 35...THEY DID...

[m2frogger]

They didn't say they killed. They NEVER DID! If they did...they would find evidence of the slayed and a body count. If anyone is naive it's you for believing Bugliosi's bullshit.

[Poe397]

Do some research and quit mimicking charlie and you will find out its all public record of what has been testified to by family members.

[m2frogger]

"Testified by family member's"? I thought they couldn't go to testify. If you're talking about Kasabian..she only mentioned what happened at the murder's. The others took full blame fr the murder's.

[Poe397]

Testify means to speak the truth..not just in court,its part of the english language. You really should try harder to keep up with me if we are going to continue this debate.

[m2frogger]

To testify mean's to serve as evidence, or to give testimony, or to give evidence of.

Where does it entail "Truth"?

[Poe397]

That is why you are under oath in court.

[Poe397]

You dont have to be in court to give testimony.Please if you are going to debate with me ...learn the language.

[Poe397]

Nothing Bugliosi ever said about the case came from anything other than what came out in and after the trial by those that were there.

[m2frogger]

No...half to most of what comes out of his mouth is bullshit. I know that because I caught his differences in many other interview's. One being how he wanted to do that case strictly for the money and fame.

[Poe397]

That doesnt have a damn thing to do with what crime was commited.

[Poe397]

It is all public record and can be researched by anyone that wants to take some time to do so.

[m2frogger]

And I have researched it, and Manson's name never comes up next to "Murderer". There is no evidence for Manson except speculation...and Bugliosi said that.=]

[Poe397]

He wasnt convicted of murder..conspiracy to commit murder..researched my ass.You dont even know what your Hero god was convicted of.

[m2frogger]

People don't get life for conspiring to commit. People get less time.

[Poe397]

No actually Charlie was sentenced to die.

[Poe397]

If you ever actually read the book,which i doubt,You would see it is 100% based on nothing more than sworn testimony and court documents and not a single word other than the narrative to make the story flow is Bugliosi's.

[m2frogger]

The book is based little on truth. The four actually murderer's yes fact. Charlie the main "bad" guy..NO. There is no proof for Manson's incarceration.

[Poe397]

Little on truth????ITS FUCKING COURT RECORD YOU MORON!!!

[m2frogger]

People lie in court.

[Poe397]

Now that being said,I never said it is 100%true..But if there are any untruths in it they are not from Bugliosi but the person that said it in court or in any other sworn testimony that it is taken from.

[m2frogger]

Yeah you did say it was truth. Second don't blame any of the untruth's on what happened in court. The only untruth would be from Bugliosi.

[Poe397]

Oh yeah and as for the suspected 35 other dead no-one is in prison for those crimes because of the lack of evidence,Thats why rumored and suspected are words always associated with it.The family said it not Bugliosi.

[m2frogger]

"And know girl's you don't have to testify"? Yeah...now you're honestly making fact's up. He never got cross examined. They planned on it, but never went trough with it. So please don't be a chip of the ol' lying tree that Bug planted.=]

[Poe397]

Also Bugliosi didnt make up the evidence..c'mon you cant be that stupid.Evidence is collected by the investigator's.All the prosecutor can do is present it.

[m2frogger]

He made up the fact of Manson's "Mind power's".=]

[Poe397]

As far as the book is concerned there is not a single lie in it from Bugliosi..It is all public record and a telling of what came out in court and the trial itself.If there are any untruths in it he is not responsible for them.

[m2frogger]

He is responsible for the untruths because he wrote the book. There are untruth's because it portray's Manson as an evil man, but he's not. It over indulged his character making him into something he's not.

[Poe397]

So basically im saying you can hate bugliosi all you want but he didnt do anything to deserve it..if you researched anything you would know that.

[m2frogger]

Really lying about Manson. Spreading fear and illusions. Not giving the families of the slayed any money or share of the prophet's from the book deal's. Can be quoted saying.."I saw the Manson trial and I saw dollar sign's" [Manson v.s. Bugliosi.]

What do you constitute as "Good"..because that's not.=]

[Poe397]

Secondly..you obviously know little or nothing about law..The lawyer is NOT under oath because he isnt giving testimony.All he is doing is presenting evidence and asking question's. Where I ask you is he even capable of lieing?????

[m2frogger]

He capable of lying in the courtroom. He's capable of giving false evidence of someone's action's. Charlie did nothing wrong, yet he's convicted. He lied to get money, and it's a proven fact in "Manson v.s. Bugliosi"..."I saw the Manson case...and I saw dollar sign's". He wanted to do it for money, and should be convicted for the lies he committed in the courthouse. But we all know..justice in society doesn't exist, and people like to be scared.

[Poe397]

Bugliosi challenged Manson to be cross examined ..and as expected the coward said no.

[Poe397]

It sicken's me to see people still wanting to follow this Freak Job.

[Poe397]

You people apparently know nothing of the trial.Noone was disallowed to speak.They CHOSE not to put up a defense.

[m2frogger]

No. Bugliosi said to the grand jury that Manson has mind power's and ordered them to leave do to a fear he was going to persuade the jury for his release. What prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi committed was perjury.=]

[Poe397]

Dude you are 17 yrs old..im sorry but you dont know what you are talking about...it Bugliosi never said charlie had mind power's...that is just absurd.

[m2frogger]

Age has nothing to do with it. You know nothing about the case then. It is a known fact that Charlie did not get a fair trial for that reason. To say otherwise is absurd.

[Poe397]

Im sorry but at your age I cannot take you seriously on much..but if you actually researched instead of just parroting charlie..the FACT of the trial is they gave no defense because..get ready for it...THEY HAD NO DEFENSE...you tell me how you are going to defend what they did hmmmmm

[Poe397]

One more thing..To say that Bugliosi committed perjury just goes to show me how naive you are..A lawyer during a trial is not sworn in as a witness and therefore cannot commit perjury..no matter even if they lie its not perjury..Research young man O.K.

[m2frogger]

Yes it is. It's a lie that changed the course of the mockery of justic that was his trial. You should do more research yourself..a lawyer is under oath just like everyone else. It was his job to find evidence and he didn't. Therefore do to the lack of evidence of his claim constitutes as perjury. It was a lie.

[MiamiIndianTribe]

you lost your case when you asses rested your case without presenting a single witness

[m2frogger]

They weren't even allowed to speak for Christs sakes,Charlie to be exact as well. You want to talk about evidence? Then don't listen to Bug.

[m2frogger]

Charlie should of one.Goes to show you can fool anyone. Charlie didn't get a trial you fools. Manson couldn't give his testimony because apparently he has "mind powers". Joke trial.

[catsclawhammer]

m2frogger you don't know what you're talking about. you are clueless about the facts. Manson was not prevented from testifying during the trial because of so-called "mind powers" on the jury. He was prevented from doing so because he could have implicated his co-defendants. Seriously, educate yourself before sounding like a 12 year old moron.

[m2frogger]

No..you do your research before you sound like an uneducated fool. Bugliosi ordered the jury to leave during the trial when Manson was going to testify. Look up Mansons "Mind powers". That's a real segment in the trial.

[MediaOwnsYourMind]

I still can't believe you think is's ok to bar a defendent from testifying. what you're saying is that if the defendent iscapabler of convincing the jury he's innocent, his testimony should not be allowed. Because the prosecution knew manson was guilty, they were right in not letting the jury hear his testimony because the jury might make the wrong decision based on that testimony. Your logic is scarey. if that is what happened, maybe the conspiracy theorists are right.

[m2frogger]

Manson is innocent. It is wrong not to let anyone speak in front of the jury. That goes against their constitutional right's, and added onto that..what Bugliosi did was perjury. It was never proven that Charlie has "Mind power's"..and it was never mentioned before the trial. It was stated at the trial, and the jury followed the liar's word's.

[MediaOwnsYourMind]

catsclawhammer, in your infinite wisdom, please explain further how a trial can be fair when the defendent is unable to testify! You said it yourself. he wasn;t alowed to testify because it would affect the outcome of the trial. Isn;t that why they have trials and testimony. your nuts man, he didn't have a trial. he may have been guilty, but he never had a trial

[Poe397]

I was begining to think there was no inteligent life here...thanks.

[Poe397]

Actually Manson did give a statement and was cross examined for a minute by Bugliosi but without the jury present and declined to do it again in front of the jury,..he ended it by telling the girls..now you dont have to testify.

[m2frogger]

Actually no Bugliosi said it. Second regardless if he uses "Rumored" or "Suspected"..he's still leaving the fear factor there that the family is bad. If the family said that...it would be a confession. They never did.

[tonlo92]

how long did they actually stay out there?? They said they would stay til he was out, but does anyone know how long it was that they remained?

[marknmiami]

They were there for about a year and a half if memory serves me correctly...might have been longer..If someone knows for sure feel free to correct me lol..They finally left when Charlie was transferred to prison.

[SoJustCool]

paul fitzgerald should have been on sesame street

[JanBelupo]

Yeah,blaming Manson,theres a suprise.Poor little leslie v,eh?She was over the age of legal(and moral)responsibility for what she did.Manson did'nt hold a gun to anyone's head,and he did'nt kill anyone.Funny how that is lost on you.Women are just as responsible for their own actions as men are.

[Andromeda1741]

yeah thats kinda weird, feel sorry for the one with the knife and condemn the one without one, over a fabricated story that makes no sense. To each his own I guess ! hmmmm , LSD = able to be talked into murder. Theres no proof of that, not even in the Manson case.

[ElmoLewiss]

krenwinkel testified she was sober at the time of the murders. Tex watson testified he only took a microdot of LSD but massive amounts of meth. get your fuckin facts straight before you spout off about shit u know nothing about

[tgy55448]

She was "sober" but she also had taken LSD the day of the Tate murders and was coming down when Charlie tapped her to jump in the car.

Also, continued ingestion of LSD over a long period of time is going to have an effect on your overall mindset even when you aren't tripping. LSD played a HUGE role in their frame of mind, the things they believed, their worldview. And the speed just made it even worse.

[ElmoLewiss]

blah blah blah you sound like bugliosi. what a joke. i have never seen so much confusion about the facts in a case as i have in this one. 'lsd played a huge role in their frame of mind" what a load of garbage. "their worldview" they didnt have a worldview, they had a line of bullshit from manson. manson doesnt believe any of that helter skelter crap ok?? its a con he worked on dumbass gullible bitches.

[Andromeda1741]

Bobby Beausoleil on Helter Skelter theory : "- I guess because I know the truth, to me that explanation seems ridiculously simplified. How can anybody not see through that? Murder by Beatles records—this is what happens if you listen to Beatles records and take LSD!? What could be a more blatant attempt to discredit the youth movement of the '60s than that? To use that theory as the basis of convicting these people stretches credibility to the breaking point

[naturesroses]

Yeah and what better person than BB to know what really happened LOL. Oh well. Some people are too stupid to see what is right in front of them.

[Andromeda1741]

You know what would be great, a nationally televised interview with Bobby Beausoleil , that would set alot of people straight. Wonder why they dont do that ... mmmmm

[naturesroses]

Cause Bobby would blow the shit out of the water. Then the fun would be over. People would have to except what really happened. He sure wouldn't deny it.

[Andromeda1741]

Yeah but after you take LSD the first time common sense would tell you it wil have a serious effect on you if you take it alot, so any of them should have known on their own to not keep taking it or not take it so much. They cant blame Charlie that they decided to take LSD so much.

[Andromeda1741]

the Vincent Bugliosi book bears little resemblance to the truth as I know it - Bobby Beausoleil

[naturesroses]

Yeah don't we know that aye? Fair trial my ass.  This was a prosecution trial from day ONE!

[Andromeda1741]

That wasnt even a trial, it was half a trial. Still waiting for the other half damnit !

[naturesroses]

Well yeah this is true. Back then people were getting convicted without evidence all the time. NOW they are getting exonerated. Lots and lots of them in the US. Charlie needs a trial out of California but he is world wide now.

[out99990]

You can join the military and be disillusioned and influenced into things-like killing innocent people! I've probably taken more acid than any three of these stupid mofo's and i've never had the need to kill to please anyone, but then i was never in a postion where i needed someone's approval so badly. This was mainly about one guy's huge ego stucture to cover previous pain, young people who needed approval, and a set of particular circumstances that eventually came unglued.

[mikemoair]

come on all ye big strong men uncle charlies got himself in a big ole jam and its one two three what are we dropping acid for dont ask me i dont give a damn and its five six seven next stop is san quen tan ah charlie you stupid son of a bitch.

[BTFalconss]

Boy did that dumb bitch Sandra Good sound stupid. We'll be here until they get out. You see how she lied? It's 2008 and the dumb bitch is no where to be found on that corner. The only time that girl ever had any kind of sense is when she gave up and left that corner....lmao I see the law broke you down as well. I don't know how long she staye on that corner after that interview. The law broke your all powerful will to stay there didn't it girl...lmao

[CTHULUgreatoldone]

was she gonna have her CRABS and v.d stay and wait also?

[andrelebaron]

lol. she's a freaking loony all right

[ALLONEALLNOW]

your very ignorant littletiger2020

[out99990]

How is he ignorant? He is stating facts.

[omarjz]

where is the revolution???? are they still waitting?

[cynmcb]

Yeah, when did the dumb bitches finally leave?

Is the defense lawyer just as nutty as Sandra 'nutjob' Good? Did he really think they would be found innocent?!?

[boybandmassacre]

I think they are still there lol!!

[littletiger2020]

LOL wonder how that bitch feels now after all that talk of the lunatic manson getting out. Well guess what bitch it's 2008 and old charlie is still there, he will rot in there...hahahaha

[chichikov8]

I just wish that fellow inmate that had set him on fire burned him more.

[fmacfan]

Ha. I wonder if they are waiting there. Dumb fucks!

[aceyacem]

All those women are probably carrying at least one vinerial disease. Yuck.

[CTHULUgreatoldone]

ha...they neeed crazy acid head chix like thattalking to teh media nowadays..very entetaining..LOL...YEAH THEY WERE GONNA STAY THERE AND WAIT UNTIL HE WAs OUT..AND THEIR CRABS AND V.D WERE GONNA WAIT RIGHT THERE with them..lol

[naturesroses]

AND today, they are probably carrying at least 5 or 6. ;)

[cripplewoox]

girls back then were more sexy

[55westend]

How so?

[dogterd]

Sandra Good reminds me of a new-age flake bitch I used to work with. She had an abusive, lazy cunt,but she was fucking one of the supervisors who covered her tracks for her... then one night she took a run at a truck driver with a her forklift and he smashed her twice in the face, so fuckin' hard she was out cold before her head hit the concrete floor. She finally got shitcanned after that. We all laughed our asses off. So long, cuntface!

[kenfig]

Are you still waiting ? are you still holding your breath ? Are you still ALIVE ? Who GIVES a shit ?

[andysnadden]

Charlie declared open violent warfare on society, placed himself above the law, and claimed the right for himself to take life at will. That's why you gotta laugh when Sandy is all huffy about "fair trial". Hey Sandy, you declared war, remember? Fuck the fair trial! If it's war, then let it be war. And it seems we're winning this war. We got Charlie locked up! Amen ...

[karawomanNo1]

Oh, sorry...! I clicked on the thumb down by accident - I wanted the thumb up!! Of course!! You are absolutely right!!

Perhaps someone can click a thumb up - so my wrong thumb down will vanish - thanks!

I am sorry!

[montsrubi]

Good footage

[imjdg]

Sandra Good was one of the greatest hippies of all time

[circleofhands]

i'd do her, probably good in the sack and sexy

[andrelebaron]

I wouldn't fall asleep after though.

[CTHULUgreatoldone]

yeah good at giving u v.d..gonnorhea and stuff..

[AngryWhiteGurl]

Ummm yeah, IF YOU LIKE NUTJOBS!

[CTHULUgreatoldone]

these nutjobs killed 10 innocent people..what si a good hippy about that?

[meeksjane123]

I RATE THIS VIDIO A 15

[melamia71]

Great footage. Sandra Good is the biggest nut of all!

[Ooodlesofpoodles]

Wonderful to see a young Paul Fitzgerald again; he looks like a baby in this clip. What a brilliant lawyer he was...lost his life much too young. Thanks for letting us see his face again.

[YepYepYup]

Awesome! Thanks Bret!