London Olympic Torch Relay - Protests at Downing Street

[0x0david0x0]

fuck the OLYMPICS

FREEDOM FOR TIBET !!!!!!!!!!

[michidurmiendo]

well if somebody is going to manipulate the media, small tibet couldn't do it.....powerfull china, probably. i do agree that the media is controlled by a small percentage. so you all ignorants start watching the news and read the papers from other countries and you will see that the all show one thing...people around the globe is against china's oppression.

[cypris2002]

the games are about international competition one host country the games have nothing to do with politics..... they protest about Tibet why is no one protesting Iraq lets get real here the games are once every 4 years and many young people trained hard lets give them respect

[LoneDerangerer]

fuickin chinese .

[zhanginca]

LoneDeragerer,

Do you eat with that mouth?

[maosytongue]

At the protest rally at The Dome, the pro-Beijing people were shouting China! China China! And it was echoed by Out!Out!Out! It was hilarious. And one guy shouted no more Pirated DVDs! No DVDs No DVDs! LOL

[ketonepropane]

Westerners attacked disabled athlete just because she's a Chinese. I used to love Britain a lot and fucking hate Communist. But after I saw the Westerner attacked a disabled person just because of her race. I feel so hurtful and this is just heartbroken. Why is the people in the West who believes in human rights treat other race badly just because the government in bad??? WHY?

watch?v=1K6gUYyvH5o

[zhanginca]

As a normal Chinese, I think human rights are important too. I don't think every government on this planet is perfect on that.

But all these protests became anti-China. This is unfair and it's an insult to me.

If you want to be enemy of China or Chinese people, I have nothing to say. If you really want the world to improve, then think over on what and how before you protest.

[awgu]

If people do not like the chinese REGIME, that does not mean they do not like ordinary Chinese. Too many of you are so politically unsophisticated you cannot tell the difference. The Chinese government is what? Three decades old? The Chinese people have been around for thousands of years.

We do not like the Chinese Communist REGIME. It has nothing to do with not liking ordinary Chinese people.

[zhanginca]

augu:

All these so-called "anti-China" protests hurt ordinary Chinese people. They make Chinese people lose face, especially in this year.

All Chinese people (in China or overseas) are angry at these tricks happened in London and Paris.

You are too politically sophisticated to be able to understand other people's feeling. Maybe you never care.

[awgu]

"losing face" is a very Asian concept. And, I'll add, an irrational one. Ethnic Chinese people living in New Zealand are not degraded by ordinary people protesting the Communist Regime in China.

And, I'll add, there are many CHINESE protesters, protesting the CHINESE REGIME government. The anti-China people are not all white, they are Asian, black, Brown and White - multicultural. Can the same be said of the pro-Chinese crowd?

The pro-Chinese crow are ALL ethnic Chinese.

[zhanginca]

awgu,

I understand you have no interest to understand "Asian concept" because you think "Western concept" is "the standard". I also understand that you think anything you don't understand or you don't like is irrational.

You wanted to be objective. But ask yourself, from the bottom of your heart, do you think you're superior than Chinese, or other none western people?

[awgu]

China is becoming a superpower, you need to GET OVER the inferiority complex.

I do not like the concept of "losing face" because I think it is objectively STUPID. Chinese people living in say, Nigeria, do not "lose face" because other people protest Chinese Communism. That is just a stupid argument.

Get the chip off your shoulder, the world does not need a racially insecure Superpower.

[LoneDerangerer]

China murdered millions of ppl in tibet and yet your face dares to defend their action? You are a pathetic ignorant buffoon who deserves comtempt. I understand this asian mentality very well. I come from an asian country and let me tell you that most of my Chinese friends there HATE CHINA and mainland Chinese. I ain't kidding.

Get over it.

[zhanginca]

LoneDerangerer, China did NOT murder ppl in Tibet. Tibetans are brothers and sisters to all Chinese ppl (include Han, Hui, Mong, and other ethnic groupd). Please do NOT spread lies.

Why do your "Chinese friends" hate China and mainland Chinese?

[nifangpi]

LoneDeranger,You are a pathetic ignorant liar! No real Chinese would ever be your friend because you a lying son of bitch! I bet you never eat Chinese food? If you can ever afford to travel to China, I guess Not, you will be ashamed to see Chinese people live better life than you do. You are a loser!

[zhanginca]

You gave a very good point that only ethnic Chinese are in the pro-Chinese crowd. This reflects that you guys are so "politically correct" that other sincere westerners are afraid to show their opinion. Actually I saw youtube vids which showed some pro-China westerners in SF. There are westerners who has anti-anti-China vids on youtube:

watch?v=Xsoc4-QnplY

watch?v=Uw1CNQd-rpM

I hope you could get wiser after you watch these videos.

[awgu]

My point Zhanginca is that the pro-Tibet protests are OVERWHELMINGLY more diverse then the pro-China protesters. This is a tribute to the appeal of the call for Tibet freedom.

I saw Whites, Blacks, Asians, and even Indians supporting the Tibetans.

Only Ethnic chinese people (many of whom had poor English, i.e. recent immigrants) were waving Chinese flags.

I AM PRO-CHINA, I have been to China, I have great respect for the Chinese people. They deserve to be just as FREE as we are.

[michidurmiendo]

the reality is most chinese people are not well inform about the issue in a historical way, some because they dont care and some because their goverment does a great job blocking others sources of information, i do not hate chinese people, i hate their goverment and their decisions about tibet... but when you see HUGE demonstrations AROUND the globe it tells you that something it is not right.

[nifangpi]

And you think you were well-informed by our media in our so-called "free-speech" world?. I live in America and we all know too well that how our media often munipulates the facts to suit their needs. Have you seen the movie "rendition" and see how our government lie about so many things. Wake up and don't be so ignorant.

[LoneDerangerer]

i hope you understand that there are always 2 points of view in any argument. Just because you saw a few westerners with such videos doesn't make the Chinese stance any more credible.

I hope you will get much more wiser after reading these words. You need it.

[hgm57]

If practicing a life long for an event that brought the politicians to the boxing ring, I would be happy to lay down my best

performance. Our great blue planet looks upon us as fire ants in a ring of fire. The torch might be blown out by such a ring. Maybe the great culture of China will realize today that sovereignity includes a force of will to release and free Tibet and its people, there is no other solution. Amdro perhaps, but it don't work either.

[hellonpluto]

nuke china!!! woop woop!

[unixnaoki]

太好太好！太好太好！太好太好！

至于中国人,民度低 FUCK CHINA

没 Beijing Olympic 2008

太好太好！太好太好！太好太好！

[chinaupup]

Stop western media distortion, stop western style violence and stop attacking the peaceful olympic torch,stop lousy political act,this series of violent protests and riots make us clear who are destroying our chinese peaceful hope and olympic spirit. Now you western let us know your the false faces and we'll remember them from you forever.We chinese will never forget what you have done to all chinese. such as:distortion,attack,historica­l trespass,arrogant behavior and violience.

[awgu]

This is a rich one: "western style violence", hilarious.

Drinking your communist party kool-aid I see.

[awgu]

This is a rich one: "western style violence", hilarious.

Drinking your communist party kool-aid I see.

[rainbowinthesun]

ONE CHINA!

[desperado154]

How can it be one when you are killing your own people. Remember Tainamen square! Wake up!

[afatchild]

scotland stop having a hissy fit your not a third world country you dont have any real problems stop trying to politically attention seek on YOUTUBE go back to your farm ffs.

[spamlolz]

funny.. cause everyone i know hates scots...

[Koshti101]

These racist savage protesters should be dispersed with extreme violence and then deported to the ocean. They make me ashamed to be called British.

[vuthanh7]

I love free country.

[awgu]

Then move.

[danhjersey]

I think you will find that they can vote about it...and say whatever they want, read whatever they want, think whatever they want.

[timeesprit]

its funny how its all white people/hippies doing the protests. if you wanna shame china, why dont you win more medals for your country, fucking ignorant twats

[awgu]

Actually racist slime, it is not "all white people", and even if it was, so what? Are we not all citizens of the world? Are only ethnic Tibetans allowed to protest injustice towards Tibetans?

So then during the Opium wars when we were bombing Chinese cities, no non-chinese citizen object to our treatment of chinese civilians?

Your thinking is backwards and primative.

[timeesprit]

yes you are citizens of the world - citizens who know nothing about the situation in china at the moment. go and travel, go and live in tibet for a change, then you have the right to say what you want.

and dont compare the opium wars which the british forced upon china with tibet! they are such different situations, dont even GET me started

[awgu]

I have been to China.

You just dont GET IT. It is irrelevant that we are not "Tibetan", we are standing up for what be believe is right. If you were being oppressed by the Japanese wouldnt you want us on your side? Or would you still have us think, "we are not ethnically Chinese, what business of ours is it?".

When the Japanese were kicking your asses your people sure did love "Evil" westerners who saved your ass.

[timeesprit]

haha dont lecture me about the Japanese invasion. the americans only aided the GMD government at that time cos they were so shit scared of the communists taking over. dont pretend to me that the americans were doing it out of their own good will. you make me sick

you believe that tibet being separate from china is right? so how will tibet fund itself once "free"? can you answer that question

[awgu]

I am not saying Tibet should be seperate, I am saying they deserve the right to CHOOSE.

As for how they would "fund themselves", that question just shows how ignorant and backward you are.

[timeesprit]

yes of course the tibetans should have the right to choose, but the han chinese dont even have the right to choose right now as china is not a democracy yet! how can you expect the government to stop oppressing tibetans when it is doing it to the majority?? the oppression is not to do with tibet, its the whole of china that has no democracy.

oh sorry, you want me to phrase it differently? just admit that you havent even thought about tibet's future once "freed".

[timeesprit]

you must be naive to think that the west is not threatened by china, cos the plain fact is: IT IS.

[timeesprit]

people who were chanting 'shame on china' over and over again like robots of the western media - do they not realise their COMPLETE AND UTTER RUDENESS to the chinese people??? imagine if in another country people were shouting 'SHAME ON ENGLAND SHAME ON ENGLAND', dont you think the english would feel completely insulted and disgusted???? it's pure racism and hatred, nothing more.

[farfar5010]

The English don't torture their own people and threaten to run over them with tanks, anyway if they want to protest in their country why shouldn't they, if other people don't like it, tough, leave.

[awgu]

People yell, "shame on England" all the time. Many of them English themselves.

You are ignorant and clearly culturally BACKWARD. This is not the 18th century, people are allowed to protest.

[awgu]

People yell, "shame on England" all the time. Many of them English themselves.

You are ignorant and clearly culturally BACKWARD. This is not the 18th century, people are allowed to protest.

[timeesprit]

so thousands of people halfway across the world who have never been to england shout 'SHAME ON ENGLAND" on a daily basis and it is shown on media EVERY DAY on every channel?? if that has happened and you werent affected by it, then you must either have really thick skin or just dont love your country.

[timeesprit]

so thousands of people halfway across the world who have never been to england shout 'SHAME ON ENGLAND" on a daily basis and it is shown on media EVERY DAY on every channel?? if that has happened and you werent affected by it, then you must either have really thick skin or just dont love your country.

[timeesprit]

of course its good that people are allowed to protest you dumbass but it depends on what theyre saying and how they say it! when people are shouting direct ABUSE at one country, the natives of that country WILL feel insulted! UNDERSTAND THAT CONCEPT??

[awgu]

People thousands of miles away (in India for example, or African colonies) have shouted "shame on England" and with good reason. And the English have not been "insulted", but usually took said protests as evidence they should change their behavior.

China is behaving like a very immature country. Your country (I assume its China) is not above criticism on a "daily basis" for its terrible behavior. And if that insults you or you are too senstive for it, to hell with you.

[timeesprit]

i agree that the chinese government is quite immature and does not know good methods to control situations. it is right that the government should be criticised. but the olympics are what the chinese people are proud of - something significant which we have achieved in a very long time. and now many westernisers are using the excuse of tibet (and even sudan!)to be against china and throw abuse at our country when they would not have done if china was not a rising economy.

[awgu]

That is part of the PRICE of having the Olympics. It is not just a "lets praise whoever has the olympics" show. The Olympics have always been political, whether they were in Berlin, the Soviet Union, or now China.

You are whining like a baby as are mny Chinese citizens. Get used tot his criticism, this is what FREE SPEECH SOUNDS LIKE.

[timeesprit]

but lets not pretend that tibet is not an excuse for bringing china down in any way possible. face up to it: you would not be so involved with "saving tibet" if china was not now getting richer and richer. if china was still poor, you guys in the west would not say one word cos you wouldnt feel threatened by china and therefore would not see the need to bring up china's "human rights". come on now, dont be jealous, just face up to the truth sweetie

[awgu]

Yes, China is so intimidating! ooooh noooo, China is coming!

You live in space. The world is not afraid of China, we have better things to do then think of "bringing China down", you just show how primative your thinking is.

People protest about Darfur, does that mean we fear Sudan? Or we are trying to "bring down Sudan?"? You are just a backwards moron, and this is the kind of thinking too many Chinese nationalists have.

The consequence of no free media is primative morons like you.

[timeesprit]

i laugh at the number of times have u called me primitive/backward. YOU are the one living in the 18th century when the west thought other cultures were backward and primitive. you are the one who is behind the times, not me. deal w/ the fact that china will exceed the west in economic development (which leads to social cultural development and opening up) in years time. if the west isnt threatened by china why is china on the news everyday, why is it portrayed in ONLY NEGATIVE LIGHT every day?

[timeesprit]

the west thinks it can just impose its own standards on other countries which have had completely different situations and legacies to deal with. democracy is a western invention. china is not yet used to the concept of democracy, it will take time. how long did western democracies take to develop? 100s of years. it is good that people are criticising the government, within or outside of china. but the poisonous, prejudiced attacks by the media and fanatic protestors are plain INSULTING + WRONG.

[awgu]

You are just blinded by your ethnic allegiance.

Anyways, you will see. No need to argue with a moron like you.

[timeesprit]

and you're not?

[timeesprit]

you're right you are totally an unbiased, wordly, all perspective seeing person arent you. wow we chinese should really look up to and admire you

[godisdogright]

ok. i meant uk has free media, right?

how about some day u publish a article about how better the communism is ( in some views, it is)

i believe u will be arrested

[taonf857]

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[viet1963]

I cannot wait for Paris. China think the are in harmony with the rest of the world, they are delusional. I think the French will be worse. Good luck China with your propaganda. China, you will never kill the spirit of the people to fight for their rights and freedom. You can sent all your brainwashed students to the Western World but you will never succeed in your rhetoric.

[beijingcursingunion]

haha, same I cant wait for 4 years later in Beijing, how many muslim ppl in Beijing you have idea? nice wish for you french eunuch

[foxqqq]

viet1963: and who sent you sucker here? i am pretty sure you aren't brainwashed because clearly you don't have brain at all

[life2sho]

Dalai Lama will soon or later go to heaven. Tibetans outside Tibet will soon or later become the so call terrorists. Chinese gov will soon or later have the legal rights to put them down. that's what it will soon or later become the history. why...why....oh...the place got no oil.

[YOUwankstains]

Man I used to like Dragonball, you're obviously fucking dumb, because you cannot write.

[dragonballGT2008]

o......somebody is getting angry, u like dragonball or don't like dragonball, u think i care? and let say i can't write, so what? u still understand right? u dumb ass. english maybe is ur first language, but sorry, that's not my first language, so i m sorry that i can't write probably.

[YOUwankstains]

lol

[dragonballGT2008]

lol what? u really a wanker, lol for nothing!!

[YOUwankstains]

lulz

[YOUwankstains]

fuck you

[lopsidedbunnybunny]

I bet you couldn't google that image in China

[dragonballGT2008]

fuck tibet

[YOUwankstains]

fuck you

[dragonballGT2008]

I said FUCK TIBET, u understand?? WANKER....!!

Tibet was, is and always will be part of China.......!!

[YOUwankstains]

It was not always, and I am a wanker.....yes

And I know you wrote FUCK TIBET, I can read.

[dragonballGT2008]

wanker is wanker, what a shame!! of coz i knew u can read, that's why i wrote it to show u. FUCK TIBET....!!

Tibet was, is and always will be part of China.......!! (who don't trust, go check the history of Tibet, and stop saying Free Tibet, coz it will never happen)