Tips and Tricks: Die-Cast Espresso Machine

[metaspherz]

Chefitout should get his facts straight. Italy is in Europe, correct? An Italian patented the Moka Pot, correct? Therefore the Moka pot is as Euro as it can get.

I asked chefitout where his superior traditional espresso makers can be bought for 10 to 20 U.S. dollars. Still no reply. In fact, Chefitout blocked me from further comments. I disagreed with him concerning the Breville which I own & I say is much better. The Moka Pot is a percolator & neither makes traditional nor REAL espresso.

[CHEFitOUT]

Some good information, but I have used these machines in the past, and the espresso that comes out is not nearly as good as the traditional style of making it in Italy. The coffee from the machines such as the one in this video are not drawn to its full potential. And these machines cost sometimes hundreds of dollars, where you can get a traditional espresso maker from 10 to 20 dollars U.S.

[BrevilleUS]

Hey ChefItOut,

Thanks so much for your input. The key to a good espresso on the Breville machines is the right grind.

We're planning a video on how to best pull a shot with the right kind of grind.

Really appreciate your input.

You have some great videos yourself!

Thanks again,

Drew

[metaspherz]

Chef...I disagree about those Moka pots. Traditional doesn't mean better. The die-clad machine makes fantastic espresso of a quality that you cannot get with the Euro moka pot. They make moka NOT espresso & always tastes slightly burned even at the low temps suggested despite the kind of coffee used or the grind. And forget about decent crema too. I've owned a half dozen different pump espresso machines & I must say for my money the Breville extracts the best espresso in it's price range.

[metaspherz]

Thanks for the clarification Chef but moka is Euro. The Moka pot I refered to is the one patented by an Euro, Alfonso Bialetti in 1933. It's been the traditional Italian choice for making stovetop coffee. Espresso geeks consider moka pots inferior. The espresso (Italian for fast) machine was patented in 1901 by Luigi Bereza. Today's espresso is a 1.5oz - 2oz beverage that is brewed using 190-204F water, at least 130 psi of pressure. The Bialetti Brikka pot makes better espresso than the moka.

[metaspherz]

Chefitout, an Italian patented the Moka Pot & isn't Itaily in Europe? So, the Moka Pot is truly Euro. They're marketed as Moka Express by Bialetti, named after the man whom patented it in 1933. The pot has still the same design. It's been marketed as a stovetop espresso maker but coffee geeks claim that any resemblence to REAL espresso is wishful thinking. Percolators use steam pressure & over extract. Espresso machines extract quickly the unique coffee characteristics, flavors & crema.

[metaspherz]

Chef said, "The coffee from the machines... not drawn to its full potential. And...you can get a traditional espresso maker from 10 to 20 dollars U.S. "

Please, which makers were you suggesting that cost 10 to 20 dollars? My moka (6 cup) cost $25 new with discount coupon. I liked it better than my Mr. Coffee steamer but when I got my Breville I was amazed how much better espresso tastes compared to the moka pot & the Mr. Coffee steamer. So, the ones you suggest are they uniquely different?

[mongrelchild]

good lord this chick is fantastic