Disease and Suffering

[englesledgehammer]

"Believe in me and worship me or i'll start demolishing your country with natrual disaters" -god

[ih8makinusernames]

Yes, believe in the comsmic space jew and the hurricanes will go away. Last I checked the Europeans were pretty big on Jesus in the 14th century yet they got a good ol' dose of ye olde Black Deathe.

[MissLeanaFaith]

@ih8makinusernames Actually, almost all of them were Catholics. And Catholics aren't Christians.

[ih8makinusernames]

@MissLeanaFaith Except they were first...

[MissLeanaFaith]

@ih8makinusernames First to what?

[MissLeanaFaith]

@ih8makinusernames Catholicism didn't come about until hundreds of years after Christ died.

[jdswiney]

@FictiologicalFilms Why? To understand how God works?

[DeFineAl]

I want no truck with a god that is vindictive homophobic and so self absorbed that he thinks that the good ol USA is worthy of being blessed. Supprisingly being born in one country does not make that country any more special than any other. I think the same can be said about the god of whatever religion you were brought up in. Doubting that he is special is to doubt that you are special. I have news for you "Denial is not just a State of mind it can be the country in which you live"

[trj1370]

This is the most offensive video I've seen since two girls one cup.

[luckytwentyseven]

Way to take the bible literally morons. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her? Why? Because the BIBLE SAYS I CAN.

[B4mytyme]

this is just stupid. if people would take responsibility for themselves and stop blaming everything on gods and devils maybe we would put more effort into preventing or learning from the things happening in our world. saying that god blesses america is almost like saying god helped you team win a football game. it has everything to do with the players and how they play, praying wont affect any of it.

[bringonthewrath]

Good point Kirk, where was god? hmmm man that really gets me thinking

[nifedj]

So if Americans had been better Christians the Muslim fundamentalists wouldn't hate them so much? Riiiiight...

[Cool2fool]

God will curse the nation that curse Israel. it's true. Theres the evidence that within 24 hours that america put pressure on israel to give up their land, the catastrophe happened over and over again 100% of the time. I will bless those who bless you, and curse those who curse you, O israel, Gods promise land. even christian can be curse....if u dont believe the old testament covenant God made...it's an everlasting covenant which he will not break.

[peraspira]

If one is an ignoramous, one tends to blame God. God is the perrenial substitute for reason and critical thinking amongst the feeble-minded. Among the scholarly, God is the one who gave them brains to look at and examine the universe and their environment and to try to understand it and make use of that knowledge. What an irony that it is dumb clucks like Kirk Cameron who do not use their brains. On the other hand, he is making a fortune off of his ministry.........dumb like a fox, maybe?

[larsbergtube]

global warming, unhealthy food, bad policy decisions, no healthcare, no effective rules for pollution.

or..

God did it.

[Shoots1978]

@Shredtalhead19 That's not true did you actually hear and understand what he said, he's saying as if it was a question that people ask. Sometimes when a disaster happens people ask these questions. The thing is people don't realize is that God the Lord is right where He alway's is. And sometimes right in the middle of the storm in life, as He was with Daniel and his friends. Sometimes instead of stopping something He may allow it to draw us closer to Him, or use it to bring us to heaven.

[Davidbasque15]

Such a big understanding of natural disaster and diseases right there.

-Forget science!!! God did it...

[ral1334]

Disease and suffering strike too arbitrarily to be any kind of meaningful punishment. What you are really expressing is your own lack of compassion for a country in which not everyone believes exactly as you do.

[MicheasTheMighty2]

God has nothing to do with America's decline. It is our own, arrogant, aggressive hegemonic stances that have caused the political and geopolitical turmoil we're experiencing now. And the hurricanes that occasionally disrupt life on the East Coast are peanuts compared to he tsunamis and earthquakes that ravage Central and Southeast Asia. DarkZerkerX is right, Europe has some of the most prosperous yet simultaneously atheistic nations on Earth. Where's their judgment?

[89Duo]

God loves you! ...Unless, you don't love him back enough, then hes gonna eff you up with hurricanes n'shit.

[simeon94]

Religion held back science for so, so long, but now that the world has broken free in many areas, technology has advanced very rapidly. Unfortunately, this has caused Global Warming. The terrible weather IS caused by atheism, in a way, but only in the fact that atheism has advanced science and so caused freak weather changes - it has nothing to do with a God.

[Harlingtonjnr3]

911 was an act perpetrated by those who follow... God.

[Samura1gamer]

if god punishes a country like usa with 85%+ of its population being christians, then what about OTHER COUNTRIES? why the hell isn't there a single creationist that can draw a logical conclusion?

[cieluore]

soooo OFF...... we killed them, not the muslims.

.please.

9/11 was an INSIDE JOB

[TheBlackSwanFlies]

Foolish Christians.

Obviously, if anyone would read the right Good book, the disease and suffering is caused by the decreasing amount of pirates in the world.

All hail the fLying sPaghetti mOnster!

[catnamedhobbes]

Dark, I'm not gonna preach to you. But if you don't believe in God, how did you end up here? Look up at the universe Fictional. They do teach science. And even hardened scientists say that if even 1 little thing was out of whack in the universe, not just our little solar system, that it would all be over. Open your minds and your eyes. God IS real. I don't get WHY people come watch Christian videos and then bash them. Isn't there something else you'd RATHER watch??

[bfgray]

There is a distinct corolation between religion and social ills, nationally as well as state by state---more religion equals more crime, more teen STD's and pregnancies, higher divorce rate, poverty...on and on. God must hate religion more than I do almost!

[bfgray]

I think all the disease and suffering is the result of inserting "In God We Trust" on currency, and "One nation under god" in the plege in the 1950's.

((Curious that all these Cristtards need to disable the ratings, you'd think God would serve them better))

[Bouser]

religion is just a way to avoid responsibility and blame it on some guy in the sky controlling the world. it is our responsibility to change the world. maybe if we stop eating poison laced food like mcdonalds and microwavable processed garbage we would have alot less problems. or maybe i should just do nothing to change the world and just go to church every sunday and everything will magically get better and god will love me haha

[AEFic]

We still don't have ebola. So, uh, there.

[RenatoandEric]

You can preach all you want, while I will do ACTUAL good for others and live an enjoyable life, and I'll wager you that we'll both die, stay dead, and no prayer or church would save either of us. Still, one would have spent his life well, hopefully changing peoples' lives for the better through acts of kindness rather than prostituting Jesus.

[RenatoandEric]

@SoldierofYAH

Fine, soldier. Science is evil, now get off your computer ;)

[weholdparties]

@SoldierofYAH Please for the love of all that is holy tell me you are joking.

[weholdparties]

Natural disasters happen ANNUALLY! Cancerand disease are not a new thing. America was not founded "under God." In fact, the words "In God We Trust" and "One Nation Under God" were not added to our currency nor the Pledge of Allegiance (respectively) until the '50s in the middle of McCarthyism. Christians are notorious for picking the Bible over a history book. I cannot believe that you equate Islamic extremism to God's wrath. I bet you think the Muslims worship Satan? Where's the correlation?

[Var1ety]

These WOTM morons think natural disasters are controlled by their non-existent god? Absolutely hilarious, try reading a book on meteorology...or taking a grade 7 geography class.

[weholdparties]

@Var1ety Oh that won't work because all the science books were written by Darwin or some such nonsense. If it's not in the Bible or in one of Ray's books it's not worth listening to. However, considering the Bible is a hodgepodge of stories, fables, and over 2,000 year old hygiene advice (that not one Christian actually follows for all their blathering on about following the Bible to a T) you're not going to get much logic out of them.

[SubconsciousGatherer]

No, Kirk. We need to ask ourselves, "What is wrong in our world where someone can give up a lucrative career in the arts in favor of fairy tale evangelism?" You had it all, man, and you cashed it in for something you can't even back up with evidence.

[Spetsop]

The Sun is in charge of the weather department! Have you looked at third world nations and seen THEIR disease and suffering? Clearly not! And they have WAY more believers than US!

Your God is a jealous being... causing death and distraction just because people don't believe in him! Instead of revealing himself to people and doing good deeds to prove once and for all that he exists, he becomes Satan himself! Scare people into "believing" in God and he will "remove" his wrath! It's a tyranny!

[AEFic]

@Spetsop Those aren't caused by god, people just blame all sorts of things on divine will. If there is a god, and I'm on the fence about that, and that god is all knowing and all powerful, then the god knows enough not to kill us off for petty things. And if there IS an evil god, we'd have been dead or enslaved in hell by now, so I wouldn't worry.

[Bouser]

@AEFic religion is just a way to avoid responsibility and blame it on some guy in the sky controlling the world. it is our responsibility to change the world. maybe if we stop eating poison laced food like mcdonalds and microwavable processed garbage we would have alot less problems. or maybe i should just do nothing to change the world and just go to church every sunday and everything will magically get better and god will love me

[vsp2444]

Thomas Jefferson

3rd U.S. President, Drafter and Signer of the Declaration of Independence

"God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God?

[slicingwater]

Then its not really liberty. Liberty is never given it is taken.

[vsp2444]

Maybe you are right! But, it is being taken away slowly now and that is for sure!

[SubconsciousGatherer]

@vsp2444 Jefferson obviously didn't think that liberty was for all, or he would've let his slaves go.

[weholdparties]

@vsp2444 A source would be nice.

Jefferson also rewrote the New Testament to remove any mention of Jesus performing miracles. I have the whole thing on my computer I could email it to you.

[vsp2444]

That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever; That a revolution of the wheel of fortune, a change of situation, is among possible events; that it may become probable by Supernatural influence!

[vsp2444]

The Almighty has no attribute which can take side with us in that event."

--Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, p. 237.

[vsp2444]

"I am a real Christian that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ."

--The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, p. 385.

[Belphegorfan54]

Where was God's blessing when America went into a civil war? Where was God's blessing when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor? The truth is that we have always been in troubling times and we have always prevailed with our own blessings not the blessings of an invisible sky monster. "Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man" -Thomas Jefferson

[patrickledford420]

hes wrong the more religious the more the crime rate goes up and 9/11 they were praising god r these people really this fucking stupid

[SecularAdvocate]

The bible is rife with God demanding to be loved or suffer his wrath! Love can't be forced. God is a vindictive bastard raping (forced love) his children. Problem, the believers are dying at the same rate as unbelievers. So, join Ray and Kirk and die of cancer anyway! Do you honestly believe everyone affected by Katrina was a heathen. Many, MANY, religious people suffered and died during that storm caused by nature, not the invisible sky daddy! Build a city below sea level and sooner or later...

[bonnyjolie7]

books on christian version of history written by other christians is not a valid source. and those would hardly tell all of world history. and if that is all the history you know, it is you who need to study. you're talking nonsense

[STEPHENWRAYSFORD33]

Immoral science? You are quite confused I'm afraid. Science is neither moral or immoral, science simply is a process at which we arrive at the truth. Also science has eradicated Smallpox, sent men to the moon and given us planes, telephones, radios, medicine, safe drinking water and many other wonderful things.

[STEPHENWRAYSFORD33]

That's harsh, but sometime people do need to be shaken out of their delusions.

[arabie2006]

isn't what the douchbagg cameron saying treason?Denmark is by farthest a secularist nation and nothing seems to happen there, the Netherlands also, Norway and I could think of other countries who have " abandon" God and still no sufferings or diseases, in fact, those countries prospered more without God.

[bonnyjolie7]

@SoldierofYAH

ever heard the expression "we are all made of stars"? that's because all of the elements heavier than hydrogen and helium were created by nuclear fusion, or atoms combining under tremendous pressure. that is the process within stars that makes them release energy.

so the earth would never become a star, dear.

all of this info is accessible on the internet in terms even YOU could understand

[slicingwater]

LOL, You have to be joking if not you must be tripping on some powerful Hallucinogenic. I would say 4.6 billion, like every other scientist. But your wrong Earth would've have been the result of a super nova along with our sun and the other seven planets and 1 dwarf planet. Yeah so Earth would've been the result of a dead star. But what is so occult about that. It's been observed, and studied. You on the other hand believe the earth was formed before the sun. Explain that.

[jwissick]

We don't want god. He is imaginary. We want you to wake up from your delusion and join us in rational thought and bettering the species.... not spreading some stupid delusion about some tyrannical sky god.

[jwissick]

How can the earth be a star? 

I would die to hear your reasoning for that statement.

[TheBlackSwanFlies]

...Um...false. You know nothing of cosmology or astronomy. Try again.

[TheBlackSwanFlies]

Name when he has intervened.

In present day society, not a damn story book.

[TheBlackSwanFlies]

It's the definition of a terrorist, my friend. It's not a figurative definition at all.

"Any person who uses violence or the threat of violence to obtain a desired means."

Thus, again, Ray, Kirk, and the Biblical God are terrorists by literal definition.

[DarkZerkerX]

Um no....Norway is 90% atheist and yet is the best place to live right now, Japan is only about 30-20 % christian and still has less crime than the U.S which is over 50% christian.

[TheBlackSwanFlies]

Just a clarification. Japan is less than 2% Christian. (Sorry, I am studying it now, so I had to fact check). Point being is that, yes, crime is significantly less in foreign countries than in the United States.

[DarkZerkerX]

Thanks...

[tingclair]

@DarkZerkerX There's no way that 50% of the United States are true believers. Anyone can name the name of Christ, but not everyone does the Father's will. Jesus even warned that many would say to him, "Lord, Lord", but they will be cast into the lake of fire.

[DarkZerkerX]

@tingclair

True believers, false believers. You can say whatever but in order to be religious, all you need to do is believe in the entity that your religion poses. Oh and yes around 40%-50% were considered Christian. Oh, so even to an insecure God, ass kissing isn't enough?

[tingclair]

@DarkZerkerX God is anything but insecure, I'll tell you that much. That's why it's amazing that He forgives wretches like me, and other Christians around the world. I fully deserve to to go Hell, my conscience reminds me of that everyday, but I'm 100% sure I'm going to Heaven. I was a religious hypocrite for years until I saw my need for Christ, so I know what it's like to play the game, but the transformation I've seen in my own heart since I was born again, is undeniable. It's all God.

[DarkZerkerX]

@tingclair

Wretches? What did you do? Maybe a little white lie that didn't hurt anyone? How about just thinking "that girl/boy is hot/cool" which is a normal thing for a person to think. No... you don't need a magical sky daddy to be forgiven. If you do something wrong to somebody and you want forgiveness, apologize to that person and do something nice for them. Not clasp your hands praying for something that might not even exist.

[14luisalonso]

@DarkZerkerX you admit apologizing is common sense when you offend someone and when you want forgiveness, would you agree with me it is nonsense for people to repeat an offense then? but such is our nature :s we are not stupid or imperfect in design.. we are sinful and got detached from God for that reason. all this urge, this debate and search, is God moving your soul for you to open your eyes to the truth in the bible and Jesus as your soul savior.

I thank God that you are curious about it.

[DarkZerkerX]

@14luisalonso

All Atheists are agnostic...well all that I've met. We crave evidence. Apologizing is one of the main rules(mostly)that you follow if you wronged somebody and he didn't deserve it. If you find a passage in the Bible that comes true...I would convert on the spot.

[ChurchOfArceus]

@DarkZerkerX - Less than 1% of Japan's population is Christian.

[DarkZerkerX]

@ChurchOfArceus

Well the numbers I got were estimates. But thanks! :)

[AbbeyNO]

@DarkZerkerX I'm Norwegian and i don't understand where those stats come from. I am an atheist, but most of my friends are Christians. At least to a certain degree

[mistamoon1]

@DarkZerkerX "U.S. which is over 50% christian"<--Correction, over 50% of U.S. Citizens PROFESS to be Christian..claiming it doesn't mean that you truly are. Thanks for reading

[STEPHENWRAYSFORD33]

The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully. (Dawkins)

[DarkZerkerX]

Is God willing to stop evil but not able?

Then he is not Omnipotent

Is God able to stop evil but not willing?

Then he is Malevolent

Is God both able and willing to stop evil?

Then why is there evil in this world?

[STEPHENWRAYSFORD33]

This video is both disgusting and disturbing in equal measures. It reminds me of when Jerry Falwel said 911 was a God's punishment on America.

[TheBlackSwanFlies]

@STEPHENWRAYSFORD33

Or Pat Robertson when he blamed 9/11 on homosexuality in America.

And don't forget his dumbass Haiti comment.

[STEPHENWRAYSFORD33]

Disease isn't caused by Gods or devils, it's caused by micro-organisms which are not "evil" they are simply doing what comes naturaly to them. It is only with science that we have a chance of combating and overcoming diease and illness.

[TheBlackSwanFlies]

This video is absolutely disturbing and sick. Ray, Kirk, and any type of their God are fucking terrorists.

[STEPHENWRAYSFORD33]

defintion of a terrorist- "Someone who uses violence or even the threat of violence to get others to do what they want them to do." Religion = terrorism

[TheNorthFuck]

Norway is 90% atheist, and if your logic was correct they would be doing much worse than the United States. However they have lower abortion rates, infant death, cancer, teen pregnancy and many other thing.

As a matter of fact almost all primarily atheist nations are healthier than America.

I think mother nature is punishing Christians for not being environmentally friendly, respecting natural selection/evolution, and saying the Earth is 6000 years old when it's really 4.5 billion years old.

[slicingwater]

Ray, Kirk that isn't cool. Lots of people suffer from diseases for all sorts of reasons. We know how storms and Earthquakes are formed. If your question had any reason to it thengodless china which owns Americas debt and is an economic boom should be hit with Earthquakes,Tornadoes, you name it 24/7. Canada which is more secular and liberal than America is doing better. It is not okay to preach ignorance.

[JoRu94]

Just want to add that I'm an atheist as well. ;)

[JoRu94]

That is so true, Mathi...I mean, "FictiologicalFilms". We all should've been dead by now. And what about all the religions with a prophet rather than a god? Shouldn't all "non-believers" be dead by now if this was true? According to this, yes.

[apathy7170]

Again, Kirk and Ray, Well Done! Good and Faithful servants. As the Lord's hand of blessing is lifted, we are allowed to be show a little more of His light in an ever increasing fallen land.

[MrHappyAl]

Thats you're proof of a loving god. If we don't bow are heads to him he will throw a tantrum. I have watched many of you're videos and can only hope if there is a good he chooses a better vessel than you and crazy ray to convey his mesage.