Is living alone for Women is forbidden (HARAM) in Islam? Dr Zakir Naik

[Zhara2476]

I LOVE ISLAM

like if u do

[Amalgam80]

Contemporary Islam is so backwards. And you can thank the Hadiths for it.

If you read only the Quran, that Islam is so moderate and simple and pure.

Then when you read the Hadiths, all these 7th century Arabic cultural norms are preached, as if that culture is actually Islam.

Islam came to change Arabic culture, but it seems Arabic culture eventually won. And now, Musliims can't differiate between Islam and Arabic culture.

[Amalgam80]

My sister lived alone in Ireland for an entire semester. NOTHING happened. She didn't get raped, didn't have sex with anyone/everyone, didn't start dressing all slutty, didn't get a boyfriend, didn't get assaulted. NOTHING happened.

She did however receive a great education and became self sufficient.

Seriously. I don't know where u guys live. Where men are just waiting to rape/assault any woman on her own.

[nationafirst]

@Amalgam80 exactly! he is a fucking stupid talking about women living alone are prone to becoming raped murdered or become prostitutes!

[tizzy10001]

@Amalgam80 not all women who dont do hijab are raped... or are sluts an etc---- so u mean the hukm of hijab should be erased from islam now?

[Amalgam80]

@tizzy10001 What you call hijab now is not the hijab of the Quran. See the passages of the Quran where dress codes for women is described...you will not see any kind of a head covering mentioned. Do you think Allah forgot to mention head covering in the Quran and then asked the Prophet to make up for His mistake?

The so called "hukum" for hijab is only in hadiths and not in Quran. The Quran is pretty detailed on the topic.

[omgitsaghiles]

O islam, you are so far behind.

[mrpinkpoo2]

FACT: WOMEN CAN REPRODUCE, THE REASON WHY THEY ARE KEPT DOWN BY MEN IN THE WORLD...MEN FEAR THE POWER OF WOMEN.

[Amalgam80]

He is not saying what is best for women. He is saying it is haram for them to be living alone. You hear that all you jamati guys. When you leave your women alone and go off trying to spread Islam, you are in fact committing haram by leaving your women at home by themselves. You can't leave women alone. Everybody wants to rape them when they are alone. especially other Muslims.

[RacyReggie]

@Amalgam80 Erm,the point this brother is makin is that it is SAFER for women to LIVE WITH OTHERS,he is in no way statin that it is HARAAM. What would be HARAAM,however,is that if she was co-habitin with NON-MAHRAM MALES. There is NO RULE that states that a MUSLIM SISTER cant live ALONE or with OTHER SISTERS

[omgitsaghiles]

@RacyReggie He said it himself, its at 4:35. I wonder why is a man allowed but not a woman? a little sexism here and there?

[RacyReggie]

@omgitsaghiles Ithink that the LOGIC here is that a MALE is able to PHYSICALLY DEFEND himself against INTRUDERS such as BURGLARS,THIEVES etc. unlike a SOLITARY FEMALE. However,the POINT that I dont GET is,why would it be a SIN as a female to live alone,IN ITSELF?I mean,the SISTER could be the VERY epitome of PIETY,and/or simply be FAR TOO PREOCCUPIED wit,h earning a LIVIN to even INDULGE in wrongdoin,wouldnt you say?

[omgitsaghiles]

@RacyReggie I beg to differ, i have worked with many a female that can knock anyone out in one punch, the quinticential helpless-pretty girl you see on TV is only a holywood phenominon, women in real life can and do take care of themselves. The other account is even more redicules, the part where women can't live on their own because they are in danger of commiting adultery.....like men are any better and plus isn't God their judge? why should anyone on earth really worry about that?

[nationafirst]

@RacyReggie No in another video he says since there are more women than men its okay to marry as 4 as it will save them from becoming prostitutes-i have known Muslim women-single Muslim women and those were of very high character, i have met women from other religion living single in Delhi of a very high morals--he is trying to indicate that women cannot live without support from men--he is a fool cuz its women supporting men everywhere these days!

[nationafirst]

@RacyReggie its not his fault its his daadi, you see daadi wala Hindus and Muslims and Christians--they all are same-its daadis to be blamed!

[Amalgam80]

@RacyReggie Actually it is the alone part they are saying is haram.

[RacyReggie]

@Amalgam80 Itsnot what I VE been TAUGHT!

[Amalgam80]

Please, I feel so sad when I hear stories of Muslims like those on this comment page. Please Please Please, stop listening to leaders like Naik and others. Music is not haram. Photos on the wall are not haram. Drawing is not haram. Movies are not haram. We have been lied to and misled.

Please go out there and seek leaders that are preaching the kind of Islam where petty things like photos and music doesn't get in the way of practicing Islam. Please Please Please. Islam is not hard. Islam is easy

[shariah51]

I am a revert to Islam, living in the U.S. I have adult children with families of their own, my husband/their father choose another woman instead of me and subsequently we are no longer a couple. I am educated, gainfully employed, and unmarried, what can I do? My children, I love them dearly, but they don't adhere to the criteria of Islam, and it is unacceptable for me to live with them in their homes.

I can't pray in their homes with their pictures/photos on the walls.

[The100black100]

@shariah51 If you can not pray in their homes because pictures or photos on their walls, then simply just wait untill you get home. As for the whole husband thing, I dont think you need to bounce back so fast after a divorce, and anyways its better that you are divorced in my opinon because Muslims should marry other muslims, and if you are a muslim and your married to a non-muslim, you should have the intentions to try and convert them to Islam. Nowmy question, is taking pics for memmory ok?

[bagh98]

One issue Dr. Zakir Naik has missed out on is that what if a woman doesn't live in an Islamic state where the state isn't looking after her, and she hasn't got any male in her family and don't know any female lodgings around in the city she lives in? now, what? Logical answer would be that yes, now she is allowed to live and work on her own as the Qur'an says that if someone is forced into something not ordained by Allah, then Allah would understand.

[songsoptok21]

disgusting religion..

[Amalgam80]

So someone that studies under Dr. Naik was at my home this past Saturday and gave a similar response when a similar question was asked. It seems like, in their minds, no one has any self control. That the only way to not give into temptation is to not put yourself in the vicinity of temptation.

It appears, IMO, that Naik and his like have no faith in normal people. That they have no faith in the capability of women to make the right decisions. Is this projection, I wonder?

[X3sAiiDaDaB0MBx3]

@Amalgam80 I'm a Muslim girl and I totally agree with you. Protection=bullshit. As if we can't take care of ourselves. We're in the 21st century here.

[Amalgam80]

@X3sAiiDaDaB0MBx3 It's not even about the 21 century either. They don't teach us about all the strong Muslim females in Islamic history. Warriors and fighters. Teachers and philosophers. Religious leaders and political leaders. All they teach us is this Arab culture based Islam. The same culture that Islam came to change has ended up dominating it.. Islam freed the women of Arabia. And now Arabian culture has dominated Muslim nations forcing women into the same status they had prior to Islam.sad

[TheFourNobleTruths2]

@Amalgam80 would you like to have your sister or your mother to be raped?

[Amalgam80]

@TheFourNobleTruths2 No, I wouldn't. But I would alsowould not like to stop them from achieving their own personal goals and dreams because they have to travel somewhere else away from home to achieve it. My mom is 54 years old. She's been working longer than I've been alive. My mom is an independent woman capable of protecting herself. And she has been alone for months and months while my dad was in Pakistan helping the flood victims. Is that UnIslamic too.

[TheFourNobleTruths2]

@Amalgam80 I'm just saying if you cared for your mother maybe you would live with her

[Amalgam80]

@TheFourNobleTruths2 And because I don't live with her, I don't care about her? My job is almost 300 miles away from where my parents live. It'll be a little hard to live at home and drive to work everyday. All of us aren't lucky enough to find work where we want to live. Some of us have to leave home.

[TheFourNobleTruths2]

@Amalgam80 and btw you say that dr. naik has no faith in people well it's not his call it's Allah's call and HE doesnt have faith in normal people for obvious reasons

[Amalgam80]

@TheFourNobleTruths2 "normal people" are people. Zakir Naik is a normal person. There is nothing special about him. And he and others like him think people are just aching to do some evil.

And everything is evil. Music, movies, art, women working, women living alone, having feet pointed towards Mecca...all these thingsand more are evil and bad. When in reality they are not. And so you think the people who do all those things are also bad. When in fact you are bad, for making good things bad.

[TheFourNobleTruths2]

@Amalgam80 I Did not say all the people are bad nor do I think the normal people are bad nor am I a special person. I am aware that alot of people do bad things but I dont go lecture them about how wrong they are because they are just ignorant. Dr Zakir is not claiming to be special nor is he saying that you are bad. He preaching what the Quran says and why did you even come to a video like this if you just wanted to complain? People come to listen to his speeches because they want to

[Amalgam80]

@TheFourNobleTruths2 I came seeking the correct knowledge and Zakir Naik, being in a position of leadership and having access to knowledge many others are not able to access, is misleading people. I don't really care if he's doing it on purpose or ignorantly, but he is misleading.

And I merely pointed out something I noticed about him and one of his students that visited my house. Am I not allowed to voice my displeasure of his warpped view of my religion?

[TheFourNobleTruths2]

@Amalgam80 He is not misleading anyone Everything he teaches is from the Quran so if you think that he is wrong you are just saying that the Qur'an is not the word Of Allah it's as simple as that

[Amalgam80]

@TheFourNobleTruths2 Nope, not from the Quran. The Hadiths are not the Quran.

[TheFourNobleTruths2]

@Amalgam80 Hadith are the sayings and actions of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) who was a Messanger of Allah so you are denying his Prophethood.

[Amalgam80]

@TheFourNobleTruths2 Wrong. I'm not saying anything about the Prophethood. I'm criticizing the sources of the Hadiths. All of them. They are not trustable. I'm sure some of them are real and have elements of the truth, but overall they are skeptic. I don't think the Prophet actually said and did many of the things the Hadiths claimed he did.

[TheFourNobleTruths2]

@Amalgam80 Sister or Brother you are being blinded by ignorance. There are trillions of sources of Ahadith Of which the most reliable are the Sahi Muslim, Sahi Bukhari, Tirmizi ans a few others which have been put together by the Sabas (AS) OF The Holy Prophet (RS) and have been proven to be reliable and these are the sources of Dr. Naik's claims. He is not your enemy. He has enlightened. Before I was a Muslim by name now I am a Muslim by heart thanks to him and Allah.

[TheFourNobleTruths2]

@Amalgam80 His claims may seem drastic at first but once you think about it they all make sense

[Amalgam80]

@TheFourNobleTruths2 Who are you talking about? Who do you mean by "Him"?

[TheFourNobleTruths2]

@Amalgam80 Dr Naik

[Amalgam80]

@TheFourNobleTruths2 Keep looking. You're not done yet. I'm not about to get into a debate about the validity of Hadiths, because you're just not going to believe me. So I'll leave you to what you want to worship. For me, the Quran is enough. I know Allah and HIs Messenger through the Quran. The Hadiths contradict too much of the Quran for my liking.

And as far as Dr. Naik goes...he's from a culture that limits women in the name of security. I'm from that culture as well. I just don't buy it.

[TheFourNobleTruths2]

@Amalgam80 Just because you dont follow the Ahadith than dont try to deem it as an unreliable source that is a big sin. Dont try to mold the Islamic law to your pleasing Allah (SWT) Will always catch up to you and punish you

[TheFourNobleTruths2]

@Amalgam80 "Certainly we have brought you the truth, but most of you dislike the truth" 43:78 Read your mind didnt I ? Not me Allah (SWT) Believe what you want if you think that the Hadith arent reliable than I'll have you know that the Quran is equally reliable as the Hadith but still you fefrain from the truth.

[Amalgam80]

@TheFourNobleTruths2 What makes the Hadiths equally reliable?

[TheFourNobleTruths2]

@Amalgam80 Tsk tsk tsk What will it take for you to beleive? The Hadith weren't told by any ordinary people they written by the original Sahabis (Deciples) of the Prophet (PBUH) who were also the people who compiled the final version of the Qur'an so do you think that the Hadith are lies than the Qur'an is equal in honesty

[TheFourNobleTruths2]

@Amalgam80 The Ahadith are any ordinary text. They were written by the original Sahabis (Disciples) Of Prophey Muhammad (PBBUH) Who also compiled the final version of the Qur'an. They later became famous as Islamic scholars and were deemed as the highest source of Information about the Holy Prophet (PBBUH) And his lifestyle

[TheFourNobleTruths2]

@Amalgam80 So if you think that the Hadith are unreliable you should the know taht the Qur'an and the Ahadith have a common compiler

[Amalgam80]

@TheFourNobleTruths2 Not according to what I've read.

[TheFourNobleTruths2]

@Amalgam80 The comment limmit was exceeded so I was simply continuing my argument

[HANA3364]

The only thing he is trying to get across is what is in the best interest of a woman! but as always everyone has the free will to choose what they want for themselves and no one can restrict since Allah (swt) has given humans that ability........

[Amalgam80]

What a bunch of crap.

[m0tijeee]

@Amalgam80 Hell yeah

[kaushiksays]

This is the same point made by America. They are protecting their freedom and fighting the terrorists. My point is that people have to choose between how much freedom and protection one wants. I might love to live in an open balcony on 10th floor if I like to breathe free flow of air and movement, or I can have it caged or glassed and be more secure. It should be a personal choice and things are more complicated in real life than it can be put in a 10000 page book.

[akamoney6]

I like how he gives a simile like the security guards, Muslim women are not degraded but respected

[songsoptok21]

@akamoney6 how other religion degrade women..We men degrade women not religion..Wht u think hijab can controll desire ..wrong,,,,

[bagh98]

@songsoptok21: hijab doesn't control desire, hijab stops the supply of fuel to the desire

[thekillerose]

haha! rapes in America are caused by alcohol intoxicating the mind, and the people who rape them are usually someone they know e.g ex boyfriends, step-dads, and weirdos they meet at clubs. I'm a western woman and i would know. :)

[iluvmuzamil]

That was sweet. Allah likens a woman's worth in Islam to a jewel :)

[RacyReggie]

I am a muslim sister alhumdillilah and if I choose to live on my own I will

[bigmac19751234]

@RacyReggie

U can do whatever U wanna do....Just remember to say the same thing on day of resurrection.....and then see what will happen to U .... !!!!!

[4idealworld]

@RacyReggie

salam sister,

ofcourse you are free to do what you wanna do, but if you wanna be closer to allah then why not just invite a couple of your friends to be your housemates and live as a group, you'll have more fun and be safer this way

[Amalgam80]

@4idealworld Safe from what? What is this safety that women need.? Where do you guys live where the moment a woman is alone, her safety is in so much danger, that Allah has commanded that it is haram for a woman to be living alone.?

I keep hearing about safety. Safety this, safety that. I have cousins and a sister that has lived alone because of college. They were safe alone. Nothing happened to them. My sister was in another country altogether.

[RosalinaBlack]

I'm sorry... does the president of the US have to co-ordinate his guards schedule with his?! they are paid to go with him that is why his freedom is not restricted!

[a4d2d0]

@RosalinaBlack Perhaps a bad analogy, but still the point is to protect all women. That is why the Qur'an says what it says. It is a guide to life, and if you don't think our rules have been succeeding at protecting women, then just look at the stats and compare them to western countries, or any other country for that matter!

[RosalinaBlack]

@a4d2d0 Another bad analogy... but never mind... I will not change my stance and you won't yours... so really never mind!

[a4d2d0]

@RosalinaBlack I think your mistaken on what a analogy is. An analogy would be applying the same principle or message to a different situation, I simply expanded on the same topic. We might not be able to change how each other thinks, but its better to be educated on others' perspectives than just give up. I wan't always a Muslim.

[RosalinaBlack]

@a4d2d0 firstly, from my original comment you should have realised that my qualms weren't about the provision for the companion as much as it was about the restriction of the freedom and independence of religion.

Yes. the point was to protect women. now think of it in context of the century within which the idea was brought forward and it makes sense that the woman would need protection.

however, apply it to this century and it doesn't seem that needed or logical...

[RosalinaBlack]

@a4d2d0 does a woman need the protection of a man in the face of guns? when a gun itself would serve the purpose better?!

Your right about my analogy comment that i threw in carelessly... i'll give you that much.

now coming to the stats... which ones are you referring to exactly?! Rape? Domestic violence? kidnapping? because looking at stats would more or less be fruitless because in case your forgetting, in these cultures a womans honor is in her virginity so i really wonder how many rape cases

[faro0485]

@RosalinaBlack The only protection a woman needs is bismillah, it is for her ultimately to decide what is best for her.

[RosalinaBlack]

@a4d2d0 ... are actually reported. Domestic violence, now that is again something for which you will not find proper statistics in the culture you are referring to because the concept of reporting it to the police does not exist...

and i assume from your comment that you weren't always a muslim, you are implying that i am not one either... how very judgmental of you...

another example of violence was splashed across all news networks recently, that should cue you into exactly how "protected"

[RosalinaBlack]

@a4d2d0 ... people are... i think you should perhaps study religion more as well... perhaps the concept of Ijtihad will come across... and you will realize that the prophet himself said that you should apply the teachings of the Quran according to the Era within which you are...

this basically means that women Don't NEED a companion in this age and era because justice and security systems are much more enhanced!