Don't get me wrong, your stove is a nice design. You have a little heat transfer going on in the pot stand to boil and pressurize the fuel. I just think that your burner might be bleeding off heat somehow, or your tests need to be made with a Heineken pot (or similar weight pot) to be equal in comparison to other tests.
I checked out your site. Are you saying that you burn fuel at the rate of 3.77 ml/min? At 5 minutes, your best time for two cups of water, it takes 18.87 ml.
Most decent stoves I've seen are around 59% efficient. They boil two cups with 15ml (1/2 oz). Yours is about 47% eff at best.
Are you using a heavy pot or a light Heineken can in your 2 cup tests? That could explain the discrepency. Also, is the ground beneath the stove hot? You could be bleeding off heat that way.
The numbers on the site are conservative averages to take into account margin of error, varying cooking conditions, and to make sure that I don't over promise the capabilities of the stove. I have had tests where I boiled 2 cups starting at 70 degrees Fahrenheit in 3:30 min with 15 ml of denatured alcohol, some test went up as high as 5:30 minutes to boil 2 cups, and used 20 ml.
However the most consistent average 2 cup boil time is about 4:20 minutes, using 20 ml of denatured alcohol which burns for a total of 5:50 min.
The type of pot varied for different testing phases. The 3:30 results were obtained with a heineken type pot. The rest were either a heavy gauge aluminum tin, or Steel Pot. The ground was not hot in any of the tests. I hope that helps satisfy some curiosity.
I think it would be wise then to set up a 2 cup boil test under ideal conditions (inside, 70F, tap temperature water--about 55-60 deg F) with a thermometer touching only the water using a Heiny pot and wind screen and video tape the whole 3:30 minutes without interuption, including a disclaimer that using different guage pots in various weather conditions or by not following proper set up instructions can yield varying results.
I don't think they are making this stove anymore, they site only shows 2 pop can stoves and 2 cook kits for sale.
srrrr11 6 days ago
The heat is about 500 degrees blowtorches are 1000 degrees retards
Jhfgsjdcd 3 months ago
Buy!? Looks like a can alcohol burner with a pot stand made out of washers, nuts and bent wire to me...
bolgrats 10 months ago
@bolgrats Most are.
ITReviewer 2 months ago
site now redirects to site that lacks this stove :-(
WAPTek2 1 year ago
Nice :)
ArmaHighVoltage 1 year ago
Nice looking stove.
boiledrootbeer 1 year ago
whats the materials: all aluminum?..
ninjalrt 1 year ago
@ninjalrt yes except for the potstand.
clipsesenishi 1 year ago
Nice stove!
ROBERTTHESCEPTIC 1 year ago
pls make a tut for pot stand :D
SthealthRaider 2 years ago
Woot i think how u made the pot stand!
SthealthRaider 2 years ago
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SthealthRaider 2 years ago
i shall attempt to build this design and post a video on my results...
tesladude19 2 years ago
How is the pressure regulated? How and where do you fill the stove an dpriming pan?
Thanks
jonfong57 2 years ago
I was giving a highly conservative number since it was a pretty loose method of guessing the exact temperature. But you are right.
pastprimitive 2 years ago
My reading suggests that when matter emits orange light, it's an indication of about 1346 deg F minimum.
Google the following in quotes:
"Table 1 gives a summary of visual temperature phenomena of solid bodies"
(Temperatures are tabulated in Celcius not Fahrenheit.)
BrokenAeroVT 2 years ago
nice design Andrew will you be posting a tutorial so ultra-light backers can try our hand at building this?
thanks for posting
mynameistooey 2 years ago
Don't get me wrong, your stove is a nice design. You have a little heat transfer going on in the pot stand to boil and pressurize the fuel. I just think that your burner might be bleeding off heat somehow, or your tests need to be made with a Heineken pot (or similar weight pot) to be equal in comparison to other tests.
BrokenAeroVT 2 years ago
I checked out your site. Are you saying that you burn fuel at the rate of 3.77 ml/min? At 5 minutes, your best time for two cups of water, it takes 18.87 ml.
Most decent stoves I've seen are around 59% efficient. They boil two cups with 15ml (1/2 oz). Yours is about 47% eff at best.
Are you using a heavy pot or a light Heineken can in your 2 cup tests? That could explain the discrepency. Also, is the ground beneath the stove hot? You could be bleeding off heat that way.
BrokenAeroVT 2 years ago
The numbers on the site are conservative averages to take into account margin of error, varying cooking conditions, and to make sure that I don't over promise the capabilities of the stove. I have had tests where I boiled 2 cups starting at 70 degrees Fahrenheit in 3:30 min with 15 ml of denatured alcohol, some test went up as high as 5:30 minutes to boil 2 cups, and used 20 ml.
pastprimitive 2 years ago
However the most consistent average 2 cup boil time is about 4:20 minutes, using 20 ml of denatured alcohol which burns for a total of 5:50 min.
The type of pot varied for different testing phases. The 3:30 results were obtained with a heineken type pot. The rest were either a heavy gauge aluminum tin, or Steel Pot. The ground was not hot in any of the tests. I hope that helps satisfy some curiosity.
pastprimitive 2 years ago
Sorry I meant "the most consistent average 2 cup boil time is about 4:30 minutes" not 4:20. Typo.
pastprimitive 2 years ago
@pastprimitive Anything under a 5 minute boil time is excellent!
EconoChallenge 1 year ago
Thanks, your info helped me better guage the capabilities of your burner.
BrokenAeroVT 2 years ago
I think it would be wise then to set up a 2 cup boil test under ideal conditions (inside, 70F, tap temperature water--about 55-60 deg F) with a thermometer touching only the water using a Heiny pot and wind screen and video tape the whole 3:30 minutes without interuption, including a disclaimer that using different guage pots in various weather conditions or by not following proper set up instructions can yield varying results.
BrokenAeroVT 2 years ago
Ingenious design!
guns4toys 2 years ago