I love your product, however, I recently took very little off some Rico Reserve Classic reeds (size 4), and they sounded great for a couple of hours. When I ended up at a rehearsal in a dead sounding hall later in the day, the reeds sounded like they caved in. As I said before, I took very little off, and they sounded wonderfully balanced.Just later they sounded soggy and soft. Any tips?
@dagclarinet1 I recently tested though and balanced some of the top brand of reed Rico puts out. The cane was terrible. They were difficult to balance acceptably and gave up the ghost very quickly--no resilience at all. You must have gotten some from the same batch. I hope this is not routine for Rico product. Never found them to be particularly durable, but these were really a problem. The bottom line is I don't think your problem was caused by the tip finishing.
I'd be happy to throw in my two cents about the ATG system. In short its a miracle! Every single reed I have plays perfectly and consistantly now. This is the only music product that I have ever seen that sounds to god to be true but really is true. My only advice is to go out and buy this today. I was literally finishing my reeds within 30 minutes of receiving the system. I can't say enough good things about this system!
When I first tried them early in their manufacturer I was impressed with the product. Years later there was a change and I found quality and consistency both declined. I haven't tried them in the last few years. I just know they were once an excellent product I was enthused about, not as a replacement of cane reeds but to be used in combination with them.
The education as to how it works and how to make it work is part of the system. It's all in the DVD that explains and demonstrates it. Let me say, the methods are totally counterintuitive, and totally effective. The systems has saved thousands and thousands of reeds for players that would otherwise have been unusable.
They don't want to get the system; they want you to continue to be helpless and keep buying 10 reeds to get one or two. The more reeds you can make work well for you the fewer they sell. I've talked to Rico people about it and they apparently have no interest in introducing my system. Vandoren won't do it because...well, I'm not French and therefore, how can I know anything about clarinet playing or reeds. I just an ignorant Southerner from America.
Speaking as a satisfied ATG customer, I don't think Vandoren or Rico would be able to use ATG to fix up the reeds they sell, because ATG relies on the players to test the reeds on their own setup and then make adjustments custom tailored to them, their equipment, and the way they play. The materials that come with the ATG kit teach you how to test the reeds and then what to do with the reeds in response to the results of the testing.
@billyboy647 Gonzalez reeds say that their reeds are for those who want to play on all the 10 in the box without finding difference between them. Rico claim that Reserve is the most consistant reed on the market and so on. Well all I ask for is a good reed profile and quality cane and I can do the rest with the ATG system,piece of paper,trimmer and experiment with reed placement on the mouthpiece etc.
@billyboy647 I want to have some flexibility so I can adjust my reeds to the acouistics of the room I'm playing in,wether I'm playing say Mendelshon's Midsummer's Night Schrezo or Respighi's Pines of Rome without having to spend too much time thinning the reed. That's why I don't like to use 1/2 strengh harder reeds than I feel comfortable playing on. That's why I'm now loving Vandoren V-12 #3.5+
Balance them with the system before your play them in. Playing them in or "preparing them" will not correct structural defects, which is what imbalance is. So do that right away. The reed will "break in" better, be easier on your chops in the process, be more stable and last much longer.
This is totally legit. The reed system fortunately does not rely on being blind folded to work. It does the job easily and can turn all your "junk" reeds into usable reeds in very little time. Read the clarinet forums. There are many of us that have tried and now love the ATG system.I have been using it for over a year with success that amazes my instructor.
Where can I buy your system?? I really want to try it for myself.
ArtemisApollo26 8 months ago
I love your product, however, I recently took very little off some Rico Reserve Classic reeds (size 4), and they sounded great for a couple of hours. When I ended up at a rehearsal in a dead sounding hall later in the day, the reeds sounded like they caved in. As I said before, I took very little off, and they sounded wonderfully balanced.Just later they sounded soggy and soft. Any tips?
dagclarinet1 11 months ago
@dagclarinet1 I recently tested though and balanced some of the top brand of reed Rico puts out. The cane was terrible. They were difficult to balance acceptably and gave up the ghost very quickly--no resilience at all. You must have gotten some from the same batch. I hope this is not routine for Rico product. Never found them to be particularly durable, but these were really a problem. The bottom line is I don't think your problem was caused by the tip finishing.
billyboy647 8 months ago
@billyboy647 Thank you, sir.....I definitely support your product above all others....
dagclarinet1 8 months ago
I'd be happy to throw in my two cents about the ATG system. In short its a miracle! Every single reed I have plays perfectly and consistantly now. This is the only music product that I have ever seen that sounds to god to be true but really is true. My only advice is to go out and buy this today. I was literally finishing my reeds within 30 minutes of receiving the system. I can't say enough good things about this system!
virtigo504 1 year ago
Hi Sir,are you not altering the strength of the reed with your treatment?Please let me know,thank you.
boxing1000 1 year ago
Where do I buy your item?
miketrane1 1 year ago
Do you sell that thing you use to improve the reeds? Can you give me more information? where can one get one of those?
Thanks!
soruyoavila 1 year ago
Hello,
What is your opinion on Legere synthetic reeds? I haven't tried them myself, but heard/read good things about them.
TensaiNihonjin 1 year ago
When I first tried them early in their manufacturer I was impressed with the product. Years later there was a change and I found quality and consistency both declined. I haven't tried them in the last few years. I just know they were once an excellent product I was enthused about, not as a replacement of cane reeds but to be used in combination with them.
billyboy647 1 year ago
The education as to how it works and how to make it work is part of the system. It's all in the DVD that explains and demonstrates it. Let me say, the methods are totally counterintuitive, and totally effective. The systems has saved thousands and thousands of reeds for players that would otherwise have been unusable.
billyboy647 2 years ago
I think Vandoren and Rico should get the ATG
SaxophoneProductions 2 years ago
They don't want to get the system; they want you to continue to be helpless and keep buying 10 reeds to get one or two. The more reeds you can make work well for you the fewer they sell. I've talked to Rico people about it and they apparently have no interest in introducing my system. Vandoren won't do it because...well, I'm not French and therefore, how can I know anything about clarinet playing or reeds. I just an ignorant Southerner from America.
billyboy647 2 years ago
Yes my friend, yes. Ahh and this is why I'm a businessman ;D
Sigh....reeds, reeds, reeds. I opened up a box of Javas for my alto sax to find only ONE that worked. Now I know why so many jazz legends did drugs
SaxophoneProductions 2 years ago
Speaking as a satisfied ATG customer, I don't think Vandoren or Rico would be able to use ATG to fix up the reeds they sell, because ATG relies on the players to test the reeds on their own setup and then make adjustments custom tailored to them, their equipment, and the way they play. The materials that come with the ATG kit teach you how to test the reeds and then what to do with the reeds in response to the results of the testing.
mnichols76 2 years ago
@billyboy647 Gonzalez reeds say that their reeds are for those who want to play on all the 10 in the box without finding difference between them. Rico claim that Reserve is the most consistant reed on the market and so on. Well all I ask for is a good reed profile and quality cane and I can do the rest with the ATG system,piece of paper,trimmer and experiment with reed placement on the mouthpiece etc.
klarinetta 1 year ago
@billyboy647 I want to have some flexibility so I can adjust my reeds to the acouistics of the room I'm playing in,wether I'm playing say Mendelshon's Midsummer's Night Schrezo or Respighi's Pines of Rome without having to spend too much time thinning the reed. That's why I don't like to use 1/2 strengh harder reeds than I feel comfortable playing on. That's why I'm now loving Vandoren V-12 #3.5+
klarinetta 1 year ago
Oh,
Will this system work just as well with bass clarinet or saxophone reeds?
tl1358 2 years ago
Yes, ti works equally effectively on all single reeds.
billyboy647 2 years ago
EVery bit as well.
billyboy647 2 years ago
Tom,
Do you use your ATG system with reeds straight out of the box? Or do you prepare the reeds any?
tl1358 2 years ago
Balance them with the system before your play them in. Playing them in or "preparing them" will not correct structural defects, which is what imbalance is. So do that right away. The reed will "break in" better, be easier on your chops in the process, be more stable and last much longer.
tom
billyboy647 2 years ago
The ATG system is really great. I've used it for 4 years and it works amazingly well. Really easy to fix a reed very quickly.
blummy24x7 2 years ago
This is totally legit. The reed system fortunately does not rely on being blind folded to work. It does the job easily and can turn all your "junk" reeds into usable reeds in very little time. Read the clarinet forums. There are many of us that have tried and now love the ATG system.I have been using it for over a year with success that amazes my instructor.
FileZero2 2 years ago
Everyone please note: It REALLY is this easy and effective! I'm so glad I bought an ATG system from Tom.
smbstressfest 2 years ago