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  • The trick is changing the numbers in the fuel cells and there`s a lot of them to change....Takes a while but can be done w/out a dyno....But need a 02 sensor....

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  • that was a big help thx

  • does the power commander work on a bike with carbs or does it have to be fuel injection?

  • a very interesting explanation using cream and coffee for stociomentric(I know i spelt it wrong). I go to a automotive school and we had a class about this, and let me tell you if they would of explained it this way the first time it makes a lot more sense. Tell yah what everybody keep it simple so you can understand it, use real world things to understand stuff. Awesome post bty

  • @DaDamonMorder doesn't everyone know what stoichiometry is from grade 8? it was part of my compulsory education in australia anyway

  • ...(more quantity of air passing inside the cylinder) because power commander by fooling the electronic injection system of your bike gives more fuel and replace also your exhaust gas final to succed easier relise of your bike exhaust gas,in a few words you must make these two pressures equal as much as possible for better results.

  • So for the people who doesnt know, you will not gain horse power if you install power commander alone on your bike because you need to adjust the Pin (air pressure) inside the cylinder for the explosion that mix with the fuel during his injection and the Pout (exhaust gas outlet from the cylinder),to succed that you have to replace the air filter from your bike....

  • I put coffee in my fuel tank and cream in my airbox and now my bike doesnt wanna start....what have i done wrong???????????

  • @riderzinc hahahaha ROFLMFAOLOLZBBQSAUCE!!!!!!!!!!

  • @riderzinc try sugar or adding more cream

  • this guys smart

  • I had the power commander installed on my 2010 yamaha vstar touring 1300 with cobra pipe install--but it started acting up afterwards and got worse over a few days. i notice it says on the kit "for racing only" could it have messed up my main computer on the bike?

  • WE'RE GONNA NEED MORE CREAM LOL

  • turt

  • WE NEED MORE CREAM!!!!

  • I heard that most bikes make most power at 12.6-12.8! 13.2 is the best compromise between power and mileage according to dynojet.

  • I think the premise is mixed up here in regard to your metaphor... If coffee is going to taste stronger, or richer, add less cream, not more... Correct?

  • i m very thank full with this men... thank you for taken the time to post this video...thanks

  • "Stoichiometric Combustion" is merely theoretical perfect combustion where no fuel is wasted in the combustion process, but you need just a little more fuel than what (it) calls for to get a good mix of horsepower and torque. Besides going too lean will likely burn a valve anyway... not good.

  • This guy looks like he really can't be arsed to explain it and that it's so simple for him but far too complicated for everyone else's little minds.

  • sounds interesting...IME car engines that are naturally aspirated are tuned rich and the best results were obtained by leaning out the mixture. Of course the car i worked on was older and didn't have to meet the stricter air standards of today so that might've played a part as to why it came factory tuned rich

  • ok... to set this right... what he is saying is that for a CONSTANT amount of air of lets say 1 cubic meter... there are millions of particles in that amount... with a 15.5 to 1 he means that for every 15.5 particles of that cubic meter of air we add 1 particle of gas... the amount of air is STILL 1 cubic meter, when we make the afr to be 13 to 1 it means that IN THAT CONSTANT amount of air we add fuel to the ratio of 13 to 1 and still the air occupies a space of 1 cubic meter... ok?

  • how much of a difference in HP/speed does the power commander add? i was thinking of adding one to my ninja. also whats the price range?

  • i love the way mechanics explian stuff quick an to the dam point

  • I agree. The coffee & cream analogy helped to understand everything.

  • Thnaks. Great examples.

  • is it me, or does he sound PO'd?

  • Great explanation

  • Obviously you are a wanker, so let me help you out. Take your head out of the sand, take your hand off your own knob and try and pry your lips off your own arse. Go play with your lil' 13 year old hatch, bolt a home made spoiler on and call it a race car. Lemme guess, a Hyundai? Pink?

    Tool...

  • Leaner motors cause damage. Fuel is the driving force of the explosion inside the cylinder. Granted too much fuel will bog an engine, but too much air will KILL an engine!

    I pretty certain this guy knows what he's talking about lol, now go play with your civic!!

  • ROFL!!

    Another "im a tuning expert with X vehicles under my belt" LOL. Could have come up with something more original, lol did i forget to mention im a test pilot for nasa!

    No he described AFR just fine, you will always have more part air than fuel, people just always describe it as "more air" or "more fuel" because you basing it on the "perfect ratio".

    If an engine was fed more fuel than air it would vapor lock.....provided you could get it running to begin with

  • dude he most deff said x parts fuel to 1 part air. it should be x parts air to 1 part fuel. u can always add more fuel but it wont do anything without more air too. why do people turbocharge and supercharge their motors. not for more fuel but for more air.then with the extra air u add fuel because u have to. a turbo motor should run at 12.5-13.1 afr's to handle the extra heat in the motor even though the best afr is 14.7. u see what im saying, im not trying to be a dick,but help these people out

  • Well yeah, a turbo / supercharger all your doing is increasing the whole mixture. Forcing more air into the engine, and as a result you can add more fuel.

    Obviously naturally aspired engine will be limited by the amount of air they can pull in. What i was refuring to was in your original post you made it sound like someone could just keeping leaning out their engine and get more power!!

    He may have got it the wrong way round but im pretty sure everyone knew what he meant, and hes not an idiot!

  • he def said 15.5 parts air to 1 part fuel....

    everyone saying he got the afr backwards are retards

  • dude, he totally did get it backwards. on top of that he said adding more fuel makes more power when in fact u need more air with the extra fuel to make more power.

  • What he meant, but only you misunderstood, is that at a given amount of air in, a slightly more rich AFR will give you more power. Bike and cars come from factory lean for emissions but you can add more fuel, just a bit, and gain more power.

    I do this all the time with engines and the results are great.

  • not even worth my time! you need more air to make more power. with more air u NEED extra fuel. adding extra fuel without getting more air into the cylinders is pointless and will make u loose power. i reviewed the video a few time and im 100% sure this guy is off. i've tuned 9 cars now and honestly i dont care what u have to say in response to this because i know im right, i was trying to set the youtubers straight so they dont have false info.

  • @96hatchy lol your wrong!

  • @highpoint2788 and ur a chump

  • @96hatchy dude, he gets it right, of course you need to burn as much of the fuel you jet in, consequently needing extra air, BUT factory setting put more air then needed to start with. So a bit of extra fuel will find enough air to burn already there. It is true that for a lot more fuel you need to add some extra air too (more pressure). Indeed for older cars you can find yourself in the situation to start with a too rich mixture and adding air presure in that case makes it better. ;)

  • @11039078 twat

  • @leon23021983 LOL im a twat! Looking through your channel it seems you are just a troll, making immature comments on every video you come across. I could retaliate but im not going to sink myself to your level.

    Good day to you sir

  • @11039078 like anyone cares. shut ur face or ill end it for you. specky little gimp

  • @leon23021983 Haha, seriously LOL. I'd welcome that attempt. Though id train up if i where you bud, your ego may weigh you down!!

  • @11039078 ah so your a fat bastard. lol. yawn!!!!!

  • @leon23021983 Fat??? Err, no, not quite. Im actually a national swimmer, and ride motocross weekly. So no, not fat. Far from it actually.

    Yet again another FAIL by you, any more insults you want to try at badly?

  • @11039078 again. yawn!!! no one cares. however i seem to have got your back up so thats a pass to me. mission complete. i thankyou i thankyou. ahahahahahahahahahhahahaha you lose. ohhhhhhhhhhhh im a swimmer. AND WHAT??? boring!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Although with turbo'd engines, because of the extra air being forced into the engine, you can put extra injectors along the intake to enrich the air mix. Simply bolting a turbo on, with no other adjustment will only lean out the mix and possibly give a bit better economy, for power, you add the extra injectors. Lean DOES lose torque, especially at lower revs as the mix is already burnt before the piston completes its power stroke. I agree too rich or too lean is bad, but rich-er = more power.

  • obviously you dont have alot of knowledge with tuning motors so im going to help you out. a motor is limited to how much power it can make by how much air it can suck in not how much fuel u can give it. lean fuel mixture make more power, to a point (that point is detonation in which your motor goes boom.) more fuel will bog down ur motor and makes you lose power. when u turbo a motor it is not optional to add extra fuel. adding injectors is only 1 way of fuel compensation. any argument now?

  • que alguien lo traduzca !! xD

  • very good ,thanks

  • Man this is like the simplest way to describe the PC III. I have a hard time trying to explain what it does to people. I'm going to use that coffee analogy next time.

  • cool

  • Simple and easy thx

  • so when you have a certain exhaust on your bike and you download the map right from dynojet for that exhaust, how close is that map to being just right? and how much more can be gained from dyno time?

  • this helped alot thank you :)

  • thanks a lot 4 this, VERY helpful

  • I have a 06 600rr with a yoshi slip on, just got it all installed with the power commander...low end like letting out the clutch seems slugish but the rest has lots of power....can this be tuned??

  • why do manufatures not make them this way from the factory?

  • Emissions

  • i thought the perfect air/fuel ratio is about 14.7? i didnt know different bikes like different ratios.

  • 14.7 is best AFR for good mileage, 13.2-13.8 is best for power

  • Great explanation. I'm going to get my bike dyno tuned before the season begins.

  • could someone please tell me what each of the three settings on the top of commander do?like is one for a good mile per gallon and one for a little more speed or something like that? I could really use the help lol. Thanks for your time.

  • hey bolanos I've been told not to mess with the settings..have the prfessional deal with the adjusting.

  • ok thank you for your time will.

  • I got a used Power Comander. Do i have to have the power adapter?

  • @bolanos777 the three buttons? high/mid/low are for your RPM ranges in each gearing. you can select a range by pressing the button and it will display the air-fuel mix for that range. holding down the 3 buttons at the same time allows you to perform small on the spot tweaks (about 0.1 +/-) each led from top dead center of your valves through your fuel injectors. you can do this for each of the ranges. if you've had it mapped, let it be.

  • @bolanos777 the three buttons? high/mid/low are for your RPM ranges in each gearing. you can select a range by pressing the button and it will display the air-fuel mix for that range. holding down the 3 buttons at the same time allows you to perform small on the spot tweaks (about 0.1 +/- RATIO, not a measurement for tappets!) each led from top dead center of your valves through your fuel injectors. you can do this for each of the ranges. if you've had it mapped, let it be.

  • @bolanos777 The way I understand, Trying to make it simple. For max power you can richen the fuel AFR up to a point, But when the motors AFR is to rich it carbons up the cylinder head & piston, and the motor burns a lot of fuel. To make better MPG you don't go as far, So the motor is a bit leaner. Not to lean, or you get spark knock / detonation. You start to lose power, and can hurt the motor, If you run in that condition. You can even burn a holes in the piston by running to lean a AFR. My 2 c

  • That was a great explanation. Made total sense.

    But how big of an effect does it make.

  • The effect is just great. The acceleration becomes smoother and the throttle reaction is better - it's sharper and you have this feeling you have the power at any RPMs. Originally, my bike (Honda CBR 600 F4i) acts like a tortured animal below 5000RPM and when it gets over 5000RPM it finally "takes off". To achieve the max performace you have to program your PowerCommander. Using those 3 buttons on the top of it and "rough" configuration won't do the job...

  • Very cool. I'll have to look into it when I get my new bike next year (which right now looks like either a Speed Triple or CBR1000RR... waiting to hear back from my insurance agent, lol).

    My SV650 could likely use this though. I know I had to made manual adjustment to the secondary fuel injection sensor from like 3500 to 1800 rpm's (helps you run richer at a lower RPM and get that pull you need).

  • I still get 33 mpg on an 88ci HD Softail riding two-up. I installed different pushrods, stage 1, Vance-Hines slip-ons, and dyno-tuned with power commander. The bike went from 76 to 92 horse and the torque is 91.5 ft lbs @3000 rpm. I am happy with the performance and quite satisfied that the investment pays off every time I pass a big rig on a two lane highway.

  • Now wait a minute......

    I drink my coffee black, no cream.

    If I take the stoichiometric formula and add sugar will I get a better caffeine buzz?

    Thank for the great video. I learned something today....

  • Was the coffee the Air or was it the fuel?

  • r u kidding me...

  • nice vid

  • I like the guy in your videos.

    I think 1:1 air to fuel ratio is the best and they tune it on the dyno with more fuel because no matter how many fans you got, you'll never have enough to produce the massive amount of air you get into your engine while you are actually driving.

    I wish I had this bike too.

    I'm still on an R6.

  • Sure np. It does make a difference with my machine too.

  • @will3020 hey, great explanation thank you! getting my PC today :)

    what accent does the guy explaining have? like what state is it from?

    wer big fans here in the UK lol thanks

  • Just bought a PCIII , thanks for the explanation

  • haha once again good info

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