BETTER BOTTLE BILL THERES STILL TIME TO SIGN!!!

[JJweber]

Gotlogg is wrong. Curbside puts the burden of dealing with waste on local governments and taxpayers. Not on the corporations who make all this trash / packaging / etc. A bottle bill is a small step towards Extended Producer Responsibility, or product stewardship, which is truly sustainable. They do it in Germany and Canada. It works!

[canthebottlebill]

Jscottk001 Sounds as if you would be a true activist if you helped educate people to use proper curbside recycling techniques, or worked to increase the amount of curbside recycling programs available rather than being just another bureaucrat and trying to add additional taxes to working people.

The folks who cant keep their trash in a barrel are not likely to change their behavior because of a nickel.

Education not taxation.

[recycle4today]

Would you go streaking? So why would you trap recycling in an outdate model that actually hinders recycling and prevents sustainability? Its time to get recycling out of the 70's and start recycling for today. Step 1. Can the bottle bill. Bottles and cans make up roughly 3% of the waste stream. We need to focus on true recycling programs, such as expanded curbside recycling and recycling containers placed in conjunction with trash receptacles in public places. A bottle bill is just a tax.

[jscottk001]

I believe you over estimate my neighborhoods work/environmental responibilty ethic.

Those are all great ideas, but not an incentive to a cultural change to "Not just dump it" . We have trouble getting people to put their trash in the barrel, much less sort it out.

The nickel back "almost" guarantees that someone will put it where it belongs.

Yes 3%, but a 3% is a start.

[gotlogg]

Listen... I'm sure you are all great people with good intentions. I apologize for getting heated and I know your intentions aren't simply to limit my freedom.

Please keep one thing in mind as you continue forth fighting for what you consider important.

governments go corrupt. governments also tend to become self serving and governments generally aren't super efficient.

Not that they are bad but allowing centralized federal power to mandate state policy is dangerous for all of our causes.

[jscottk001]

Yes if you decide to not take your bottle back you do not get your deposit back. But thank you for recycling it at least.

If you can come up with a better method to alleviate our beaches of all of the plastic drinking bottles, Im all ears. We get more plastic drink bottles then almost any other kind of garbage. Coke Pepsi beer and other deposit bottles do not appear almost at all.

Are you against all deposits? on all bottles?

[gotlogg]

I am against punishing people who already do the right thing by enforcing a program that penalizes the use of curbside recycling.

Simply put. I believe we need to focus on getting people doing things for the right reasons and not pushing people into things by forcing their hands.

That is what the bottle bill does. It forces people to take up a cause that they don't even understand. And when the ship sinks they'll be right back to square one polluting like there is no tomorrow.

[gotlogg]

I have to spend a couple hours per month to bring all my bottles back just to get back the money that I earned working.

How about this crazy idea?

All the supporters of this crap legislation can go spend a couple hours per month cleaning bottles from the streets and recycling them. That way you aren't forcing me to do something that I would rather not do. (freedom) and you can do more for the problem than any bottle bill. Lots of progressives cleaning lots of streets.

[yakyakyak69]

To liberals (who are not liberal) it is progressive to have the heel of the state on the neck of the people.

[jscottk001]

Or..some street person will go through you trash, take the bottles and return them. You would then probably accuse him or her of stealing from you and your hard earned trash.. Get a grip. There is a fine line between anarchy and freedom. You dont want to return bottles fine, then dont.

Besides its too late. You had your chance to make your own video too put on youtube. It only took

a couple of hours per month...

[gotlogg]

A) I didn't want to return bottles. I was responsible enough to sort my recycling and use a curbside service.

B) There is a fine line between anarchy and freedom and apparently a bottle bill is in that line somewhere? What the hell are you talking about anarchy for?

C) You tell me it's fine not to bring my bottles in. But when I say I would rather use the curbside recycling service I am told I have to forfeit my deposit to the government.

D) I'm sure this is for my better good, right?

[1987gmusa]

nov 1st it went in effoct

[aabaruff]

This is going to happen soon, the governor wants it. Bruno will get overidden

[yakyakyak69]

You can't legislate morality...

socialist morons!

[fellykelly]

I'm pretty sure conservatives believe morality should be incorporated into the government more than us "socialist morons." Gay marriage and abortion ring a bell?

Recycling isn't a moral issue, buddy.

[yakyakyak69]

You are referring to the NeoCons and NOT true conservatives. Research NeoCons and you will see what I mean.

TRUE Conservatives are live and let live. In other words, you are FREE to do what ever you want as long as you don't interfere with the freedoms of others.

I wouldn't care if you screwed a tree then aborted Penocio. Then again, only a moron would believe that screwing a tree or someonw of the sex SAME would produce anything.

Natural de-selection is OK too. Free choice!

[casper7jasper]

you are a dumbass!!!

[gotlogg]

They love the police state.

Every thing is legislated in the liberal world.

It's disgusting and it under minds the possibility of actually reaching the human potential.

We could work on changing the hearts of the people. We could live in a world where people make good choices based on good morals.

But instead we legislate laws and police the people with brutality and force. This is the progressive way. It always has been.

[jscottk001]

Yeah thats what NAMBLA's been saying for years...

[SALTS]

HELLO NEIGHBOR!

[integratenyc]

Right on! I'm always in favor of accounting that favors the environmental and social costs of doing business, while giving people incentives to make the world a better place.

[strumyourgun]

So you'd rather have the money in the multibillion dollar grossing beverage companies' hands than our government's? They're already stealing it. It's the public's money. It should go back into programs for the public or at least offset what we're already paying. I'd rather they take that money back from the beverage companies than more out of our taxes.

[JustBeachyNY]

pure bullshit! the state will steal the money.

[donliss]

Thanks alot jscottk001...

All: Pass this one along, eh?!

Respectfully,

donliss