there's never any doubt when listening to Glenn Gould that you're listening to Glenn Gould. The most unique version of this I've ever heard. Amazing how 30 years after his death he still manages to inspire controversy and vitriol, I think he'd enjoy that.
hands down he was a great genius. I do find many remarkable moments in this playing. However I can't digest some of the tempos and the broken structure (repetitions?). It's interesting, has a deepness of its own kind and it is truly original. It's the sort of interpretation that I come to when I need some inspiration (I am studying this sonata too). But other then that I just can't listen to it too much. If I had to pick 1 recording of this sonata, this wouldn't be the one =]]
Gould will be Gould... Interesting it is, of course. But beautiful? No. And that's what it should be, eternaly beautiful. It's not 'innig' at all, and way too fast for my taste. But still, very new and fresh, and amazing how unique he still is.
I think that Mr Gould was, at the same time, avant-gardist and pretty good phrasing to reach old masters performances and to make a trip in time. Timeless !
Gould was full of himself, and had a severe case of Oppositional/Defiant Disorder. If a piece was marked 'Largo' he would play it Presto, and vice-versa. Had a fabulous technique, and the stability of Bobby Fischer. Some of his work was outstanding, much of it was junk.
@Rugghead98 when did he play presto instead of largo? Are you looking at the music right now? I have looked over many of his differing tempos and a lot of the time he is way more accurate. Even when his tempo is differing from the written score, he is more rhythmically accurate than most pianists regardless of whether or not he plays in the correct tempo. Not to mention his voicing is insanely clear
Iv'e always been a Gould adept. Now i try to sum my history with Beethoven op. 109: I always consider this work an opus magnum, expecially when played by pianist like C. Arrau. After many hearings I start to get bored (? what a wrong term...) with Arrau interpretations an my consideration of this masterwork slightly change. After listening to Gould rendition I understand how this work should be played in an objective way.
Iv'e always been a Gould adept. Now i try to sum my history with Beethoven op. 109: I always consider this work an opus magnum, expecially when played by pianist like C. Arrau. After many hearings I start to get bored (? what a wrong term...) with Arrau interpretations an my consideration of this masterwork slightly change. After listening to Gould rendition I understand how this work should be played in an objective way.
It is ridiculous that comments seem to center around the notion that there is a hierarchy of recordings and that this must be either the "best" or "worst". This is, to my way of thinking, a flawed reading, in some ways, but I appreciate it immensely. It's one of many different ways to play the sonata. To pick an example, the general light use of pedal makes moments like 5:34 forward unlike anyone else...it's a unique perspective on the sonata.
He ignores the repeats. The theme has internal repeats and he ignores them. Some of the variations are double variations which means the repeated statement of the varied theme is different then the first statement in a particular variation. So in those cases he is forced to play the repeat. This messes with the architecture of the movement.
Gould's recording was my first encounter with the last 3 sonatas and I enjoyed it until I found others. Gould reportedly did not care for Beethoven.
@BachBachBachBachBach Don't be so quick to declare what others are able to understand and what they aren't. Simply because he disagrees with you, no matter how important you think your position is, doesn't make him an imbecile or any less musically understanding. That's sheer arrogance on your part.
That said, there are many people who are not very much fond of Gould, and they raise very valid critisisms that should not be dismissed simply by attacking those who voice them.
Barenboim is highly intelligent. YOu can't compare Barenboim to Gould because they are completely different, their personalities, their approach, their mind-set, their technique...Both are extraordinary and unique in their own terms! Your way of thinking is very unprofessional!
if someone is unprofessional its Barenboim you said it urself: Barenboim approach to music is like a soap opera actress with a over the top
preformance personalities? gould wanted to keep music an art form while Barenboims playing is grotesque trying to get a reaction from the croud
technique? when gould plays it sounds like 3 people playing at once--Barenboim just bangs on the keysBarenboims "mindset" redusess music from art to entertainment if you want to compare him with madona go ahead
Whoever the engineer was for this video should have been shot. Wish I could lower the treble! The tone is tinny, thin and the piano seems badly regulated. Clearly--interpretively Gould still comes through in his unique manner, but this is a miserable job of sound engineering.
It is possible that Gould himself had something to do with the tone. He said that lower frequencies offended his ears! He did have a unique musical aesthetic anyway...
listen carefully in the fugue , at 4:26 , never heard such a rocket ......!!!!
GA4N 1 month ago
there's never any doubt when listening to Glenn Gould that you're listening to Glenn Gould. The most unique version of this I've ever heard. Amazing how 30 years after his death he still manages to inspire controversy and vitriol, I think he'd enjoy that.
Brewdish 6 months ago
hands down he was a great genius. I do find many remarkable moments in this playing. However I can't digest some of the tempos and the broken structure (repetitions?). It's interesting, has a deepness of its own kind and it is truly original. It's the sort of interpretation that I come to when I need some inspiration (I am studying this sonata too). But other then that I just can't listen to it too much. If I had to pick 1 recording of this sonata, this wouldn't be the one =]]
Perelea 8 months ago
Gould will be Gould... Interesting it is, of course. But beautiful? No. And that's what it should be, eternaly beautiful. It's not 'innig' at all, and way too fast for my taste. But still, very new and fresh, and amazing how unique he still is.
pianism1 10 months ago
I think that Mr Gould was, at the same time, avant-gardist and pretty good phrasing to reach old masters performances and to make a trip in time. Timeless !
Sylvain894 10 months ago
Gould was full of himself, and had a severe case of Oppositional/Defiant Disorder. If a piece was marked 'Largo' he would play it Presto, and vice-versa. Had a fabulous technique, and the stability of Bobby Fischer. Some of his work was outstanding, much of it was junk.
Rugghead98 1 year ago
@Rugghead98 when did he play presto instead of largo? Are you looking at the music right now? I have looked over many of his differing tempos and a lot of the time he is way more accurate. Even when his tempo is differing from the written score, he is more rhythmically accurate than most pianists regardless of whether or not he plays in the correct tempo. Not to mention his voicing is insanely clear
yumpin 1 year ago
@Rugghead98 you simply have no idea what you're talking about.
wnxg4nd4lf 11 months ago
I like Barenboim's version much better
Adamalgorithm 1 year ago
Iv'e always been a Gould adept. Now i try to sum my history with Beethoven op. 109: I always consider this work an opus magnum, expecially when played by pianist like C. Arrau. After many hearings I start to get bored (? what a wrong term...) with Arrau interpretations an my consideration of this masterwork slightly change. After listening to Gould rendition I understand how this work should be played in an objective way.
vinciano 1 year ago
Iv'e always been a Gould adept. Now i try to sum my history with Beethoven op. 109: I always consider this work an opus magnum, expecially when played by pianist like C. Arrau. After many hearings I start to get bored (? what a wrong term...) with Arrau interpretations an my consideration of this masterwork slightly change. After listening to Gould rendition I understand how this work should be played in an objective way.
vinciano 1 year ago
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It is ridiculous that comments seem to center around the notion that there is a hierarchy of recordings and that this must be either the "best" or "worst". This is, to my way of thinking, a flawed reading, in some ways, but I appreciate it immensely. It's one of many different ways to play the sonata. To pick an example, the general light use of pedal makes moments like 5:34 forward unlike anyone else...it's a unique perspective on the sonata.
fiandrhi 1 year ago
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fiandrhi 1 year ago
por que esse cara não pára de girar o corpo e toca direito a peça - um pianista tão fantástico desse...não precisava ficar dando uma de diferente..
Bentland 1 year ago
He ignores the repeats. The theme has internal repeats and he ignores them. Some of the variations are double variations which means the repeated statement of the varied theme is different then the first statement in a particular variation. So in those cases he is forced to play the repeat. This messes with the architecture of the movement.
Gould's recording was my first encounter with the last 3 sonatas and I enjoyed it until I found others. Gould reportedly did not care for Beethoven.
1127jim 1 year ago
wooowowoo wheres he going...slow down ... He is great artist but with this composition he made caricature...
predoje 1 year ago
Even though this is Beethoven's little "Goldberg Variations," Geiseking's reading spoils this version for me.
petezilla 1 year ago
why did we hide behind the pillar at the end? :-P
rhapsodyinblue18 1 year ago
Best interpretation ever
gilbarony 1 year ago
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Gould is a fantastic interpreter of Baroque music, but I think he's a little out of his depth here.
ruanpingshan 2 years ago
Gould has a musical depth you will never begin to understand.
BachBachBachBachBach 2 years ago 14
@BachBachBachBachBach Don't be so quick to declare what others are able to understand and what they aren't. Simply because he disagrees with you, no matter how important you think your position is, doesn't make him an imbecile or any less musically understanding. That's sheer arrogance on your part.
That said, there are many people who are not very much fond of Gould, and they raise very valid critisisms that should not be dismissed simply by attacking those who voice them.
Timrath 1 year ago
@BachBachBachBachBach Would you please explain Gould's musical depth to me? - briefly, of course.
lourak 1 year ago
@BachBachBachBachBach why?
mackbox123 9 months ago
Brilliant, I new Glenn would come through in this fabulous movement! one thousand stars!!!!
MasterAzunai 2 years ago 11
compairing gould to that blowhard barenboim is like compering beethoven to jimmy buffet...
8888sam 2 years ago
Don't be so stupid!
Barenboim is highly intelligent. YOu can't compare Barenboim to Gould because they are completely different, their personalities, their approach, their mind-set, their technique...Both are extraordinary and unique in their own terms! Your way of thinking is very unprofessional!
AlmaSchiwago 2 years ago 2
if someone is unprofessional its Barenboim you said it urself: Barenboim approach to music is like a soap opera actress with a over the top
preformance personalities? gould wanted to keep music an art form while Barenboims playing is grotesque trying to get a reaction from the croud
technique? when gould plays it sounds like 3 people playing at once--Barenboim just bangs on the keysBarenboims "mindset" redusess music from art to entertainment if you want to compare him with madona go ahead
8888sam 2 years ago
You are polemic and untaught (your English proofs that!^^)! I don't want to argue with you any longer! You will not understand it.
You must abandon your prejudices!
AlmaSchiwago 2 years ago
Get off my lawn, internet troll.
taviona 2 years ago
Whoever the engineer was for this video should have been shot. Wish I could lower the treble! The tone is tinny, thin and the piano seems badly regulated. Clearly--interpretively Gould still comes through in his unique manner, but this is a miserable job of sound engineering.
ipmoic 2 years ago 2
It is possible that Gould himself had something to do with the tone. He said that lower frequencies offended his ears! He did have a unique musical aesthetic anyway...
oyrish 2 years ago
listen arrau playing this sonata.
egitto78 2 years ago
Beethoven is a titan of music. His music is divine and so is Gould's interpretation. I love every single note.
wnxg4nd4lf 3 years ago 4
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too quick interpretation, i didn't like it...barenboim yes, does that perfectly!!
veilsidebr 3 years ago
<3 Gould
welltemperedpianist 3 years ago
this music simply gets to your heart...
anelacadillo 3 years ago
I like this better than his renditions of the 1st and 2nd movements. He has a very strict, regimented style, and it works well with this movement.
Trixton 3 years ago 3
You are missed more than you ever knew.
Liban.
Rayek145 3 years ago
thanks!
kaiserkill 3 years ago
A stunning rendition from the master of Beethoven. Thanks for posting!
dizzib 3 years ago 2