First ride of the Vyrus 986 M2 Moto2 bike at Misano

[smarfi]

Italians do it better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[future62]

Very interesting stuff. I think the big reason big companies don't branch out is because of naysayers and mindless traditionalists who would scare away from this bike. But it seems to work. Shorter wheelbase, stability under braking, lower chassis weight... it's an awesome idea.

And companies do use this setup in some way... damn near all of BMW's bike (except the F800R & S1000RRRRR) have that telelever up front. If a company could make such a setup look sporty they would have it...

[MoisesWalle]

This guy is a fuckin shit driving!!! FUck you i drive better my 300cc

[PFCboi1]

All I can think about this bike is.... it's gonna get fucking expensive if you crash it!

[winzeee]

Sound Check 2:35  !

[avenged277693]

I would love to see a naked version of this bike.

[VersusModeADR]

Looks like some one dropped at like 1:27

[TheExopolitics]

If I'm not wrong, they tailor the bike to every buyer/rider. So that's a cool thing.

[7430060]

Nice job guys. The reviews are visually great. But you should spend a few quids and get a proper mic with some fluffy stuff on it so the wind noise doesn't destroy the audio...

[lazios]

0:26 ...Wow.

[Danevader2]

Imagine this being your job, day in and day out...that would be sooo awesome!

[Antinazimusic]

i wanna burn a white mans head with a chopper

[heratus007]

want

[patrickisyourmom]

Why is this featured?

[redgeracer23]

vyrus honda?? not ducati!!

[iJUSTwriteTHISname]

dear santa ....

[PLaris89]

'tut, tut' speeding on a track

[MilitantOldLady]

making bikes like this is pointless...they are so ridiculously expensive that noone ever buys one and they are not even race legal

[chimunda]

@MilitantOldLady

Bikes like this, like Ferrari's and other exotic cars, are meant for people who are willing to drop a couple extra dollars for the bike.

[hanestetico]

in all modesty, italians do it better :D !!!

[giusal1000l]

Moto veramente bella e innovativa con una meccanica unica da vero artigiano made in Italy. Mi farebbe molto piacere conoscere idettagli tecnici di tutta la tiranteria dello sterzo e sapere se parteciperà al mondiale di MOTO 2.

[blacksonne19]

It looks advanced but like it was already created the cradle engine frame is cool though

[Antifaith29]

Is this the first time a front swingarm has been used? It's certainly an interesting setup.

[dulfo678]

why does it have the engine of a Honda??????

[GodStink]

@dulfo678 cos those are the rules of Moto2

[Antifaith29]

@dulfo678 They use a controll engine on all bikes to keep the racing more competitive. Thats why i love watching moto2 , while there are certainly stand out riders, its more about rider skill and setup than spending massive amounts of money on the bike.

[Zepaps]

well done...great review

[theblackbmxer]

is the left "bar" longer than the right one?

[Spreaders88]

MCN forgot to mention the other stressed member you also receive with this bike... IN YOUR PANTS!

[autostoplaymob]

Bimota's Tesi Legacy?

Ugly bike, by the way.

[jcstumpy1]

Great vid,awsome bike !!!!!

[giusal1000l]

Il video è molto bello e intrigante, con mio grande dispiacere non conosco la lingua inglese ,conosco solo qualche termine tecnico legato alla meccannica automobilistica io sono un autoriparatore. Nel video ho visto il sistema di sterzata,è molto complesso e sicuramente deve essere molto preciso la Virus mi ha stupito e farò ricerche dettagliate.

[CannonRoadPilot]

for some reasons that bike reminds me of poorly assembled ikea furniture.

[vinnychoff]

I would like to see it compete in racing. it has some lovely ideas that would be nice to see in bikes for the road at a reasonable price..

[saucypup76]

why cant they make the tank of sum sort of rubber or carbon fibre?whats this tank made of?

[saucypup76]

if anyone is giving one of these away i would be glad 2 take it off there hands

[ZendPro]

amazing bike!!!

[vtwinlunatic]

That bike must be very light, they must have to ballast it to bring it UP to the Moto2 minimum weight limit. This has great advantages as you can then put the weight where you want and indeed move it around somewhat as part of bike set up. Very cool indeed, I bloody want one!! Gotta be £100k at least!

[mugget]

@vtwinlunatic It's not that expensive. I think the actual bike in this vid would cost you Teriffic riding, wonderful camera shots, horrible music…. £31,000. There is a high-spec version for Moto2 teams (minus control engine) for £49,000 and a 'factory' machine that comes with technical support and the best of the best for £62,000.

Or if you just want a track day bike the kit will cost £15,000. Just add an engine, dash, wiring loom, ECU, brakes & exhaust.

[pokies100]

How does the steering work?

[joshshoot]

i always speculated and thought about a bike that had a style like that, and now finnaly i see just one on MCN on youtube haha, that front swingarm looks really amazing i really really love it.

[animeonperseest]

so it has the soul of a honda... gimme me my ducati please!

[CorvetteKillingDSM]

Want!



[OberonBoost]

amazing bike!!!

hope street version get the Suzuki GSX-R thou motor!!!!!

[easy313]

triangles are geometrically strong.....

[waxdclxvi]

britten v1000

[OberonBoost]

@waxdclxvi yeah,I have the same opinion!

but where is the Britten yet? so Virus here is on our loks!

[waxdclxvi]

@OberonBoost its sad to think that it(britten) didnt reach production, but the john's ideal lived...

[OberonBoost]

@waxdclxvi absolutley agree,mate!

[waxdclxvi]

britten...

[hudders128]

he wasnt that confident on it, he was going in a gear up and waiting till he was half way to next corner for the power band

[s13silly]

reminds me of the old "Britton" mc's from NZ

[binky4647]

@s13silly agreed, that too was breaking boundaries of engineering . Britton was a genius .

[koengixxer]

want ... to ...... ride... it...

[Danielson761729]

£31k basic price £62k top model and £15k for a kit requiring a CBR 600 RR donor bike

[Chickenbranches]

It'd be nice if you guys could include a price for the bikes you review

[laurensdierickx]

Just curious: how much would this bike cost?

[soap0688]

What a cool motorcycle!

[Chilli0912]

and would a journalist dare criticize a bike if he didn't like it????

[Chilli0912]

The japanese have spent 000's millions on bike racing. I'm sure there's a reason why they avoided this design!

[jebbadiah]

I actually hear the guy talking and the video dos not look like it has been filmed trough my toaster! well done guys!

[GOINFINITI]

Nice editing - fantastic bike :)

[K2shadowfax]

Very interesting...good to see...and it sounded / looked great! Thanks for sharing!

[MrJames969]

What twitching or wobbles?

Come on guy's, everything exaggerated on camera, especially when it’s that close.

This is so much more stable than a normal bike, hardly any dive and good control through the corner.

Have you ridden a fast bike or any bike before?

Innovation always has its critics. Try leading not criticising.

[sunny4kill]

@MrJames969 If this type of fork was so advanced or good, I think it would have been already implemented by major motorcycle manufacturers such as BMW, Triumph, Kawasaki, Ducati, Suzuki, Honda etc! This type of fork (called "hub-center steering") exists since the '20s and still is not widely used, a fact which shows that this system is neither good nor advanced in any way! The only way a company like Vyrus can attract attention is an attempt to reinvent the wheel, which is impossible...

[pittmeister]

@sunny4kill

It doesnt show anything other than that the conventional fork set up is cheap and works well enough.

[MrJames969]

@sunny4kill I'm not saying this is the solution. Sometimes things need further development to get right. Do you think Eddison stopped at the 1st version of the light bulb because it didnt work. No he continued, ending up holding 1,093 patents to his name.

Should we have stopped at the first petrol engine in the 1880's? Should we have stopped developing flight because the Wright brothers cracked it.

Note BMW, Kawa, Suzuki & Honda have all developed & raced this type of front historically.

[butcherbloke]

@sunny4kill or more expensive develop to the point of being better...? Also bmw do use several similar front ends (hossack and Tele-lever) with swingarms on almost all of their bikes.

[motoxyogi]

@sunny4kill. I seem to recall Yamaha building 1. This concept has been around for about that long, yes. But telescopic forks have been the most common design for almost a century. As a result people see forks as normal and hub-center steering, telelever, duolever, etc. as different and avoid these products.

Because telescopic forks have been used in racing they have been developed to perfection.

The purpose of this Vyrus is to prove hubcenter steering on a world stage.

I wish them good luck!

[Ryknfjor]

@sunny4kill its better for weight advantages- the front swingarm and CNC'ed aluminum/whatev engine cradle subtract alot of weight from traditional bikes queues, it may not be all that great on a track. But from what ive heard since this bike snt prone to diving under braking it doenst create that much heat in the tire which ive heard from track day guys is something you want when pushing the bike hard. Also manufacturing, and tooling maybe considerably more$ than traditional hence the lesser use

[PilatuS23]

@sunny4kill

How about costs ? A standard fork is much cheaper. If it's a bit better for normal riding and costs 3 times as much, ofcourse BMW and all the other brands won't use it.

[TWISM1337]

@sunny4kill So what you're saying is that since pushrod suspension isn't that widely used in road cars, crap? You're not seeing the full picture here. Hub-center steering hasn't been researched as much as regular forks, meaning that it'll be more expensive than regular forks. If you think that all bike manufacturers are constantly striving for the optimal level of performance, you're sorely mistaken.

Looking at the vid, Neeves seemed impressed by it. Are you saying your expertise is greater?

[rama6maiden]

@sunny4kill

definelty not!! any motorcycle factory could make a 200bhb engine but the question is why would they?

[schmoborama]

Why does the steering look so twitchy? They never heard of a steering damper? No comment from MCN on that?

Interesting they don't have a single criticism. I like hub center steering, but don't say it's better than it is.

[Mauivavi]

clean your camera lens mcn ;)

[donnywedekind]

Did anybody catch the wobbles he was rolling through high acceleration? Usually when you smell shit, it looks like shit, it's probably shit other wise we would have had these in gp, wsbk, etc. Nice bike for Jay Leno, while the rest of us scrape together are everyday race and streetbikes, geez.

[boysvandehood]

I wonder what the turning circle would be.... 100m minimum

[polishman881]

I wont one

[jeff2all]

I don't know that front assy looks a little fragile.

[87apx]

what kind of arai is that??

[ZZRgirl11]

Looks like the front assembly around the tire would drag at full lean...

[schmoborama]

@ZZRgirl11

And can you imagine when the front *suspension* touches down... BING! WIPEOUT! Maybe there's something else that drags first but that would be my biggest worry

[sc28Tricolour]

nice ride

[marcushooten]

how hard to you guys push on the bikes you ride?

[rickrussell]

WHAT THE HELL IS A SHASSY?

[harf12345]

@rickrussell Chassis, you uncultured fucknert!

[greebmomma]

@rickrussell it's chassis!

[choopdewoot]

looks like something off a syfi movie. or batman. either way cool. even better if its affordable

[jamiebridges123]

would look good in moto2 cant wait to see it.

[TychoCelchu]

IIRC both BMW and Bimota tried the whole hub centre steering back in the 90s.

[Garrison64]

Weird and amazing. I love the look and the front suspension seems like a terrific idea. It will be interesting to see if any of the big mfrs. head in that direction.

[lotuselanplus2s]

@Garrison64 Yamaha already tried it some years ago,while it was a great bike the buying public didnt take to it,and this was tried even before that by the British,quite a few bikes were built and handled great,but again the buying public doesnt like radical changes...

[DoubleYouPee1]

Better "first tide" than usually, GZ!

[corbelius6]

Great Video! Great Bike! that thing is Nasty! cant wait to see more bikes with that set up in the future.

[rosenfeld8]

no wonder this bike is called the Vyrus, it's sick!!

[Genapex]

sweet sunglasses

[jimbo80982]

Its a good looker but i wouldnt fancy it , looks like alot of pressure on the engine which is never good. Im sure that once it catches on there will be better frames. It WILL catch imo

[rayvelasquez267]

I want a front swing arm suspension bike on the market for less than 20 g's by a major manufacturer within the next 5 years. this bike is AMAZING imagine how many looks you'd get riding a sports bike with a front swing arm suspension.

[PoweredByTheHaters]

lol looks like something i'd see batman riding

[gpzDave]

Awesome bike

[holymacarony]

Why do they call a it a Moto2 bike? It doesn't compete in Moto2? Are all 600ccm now called Moto2?

[bboynicku]

@holymacarony because it has the honda powered moto2 engine. Any manufacturer that uses the honda power plant and created their chassis around it is a moto2 bike :)

[holymacarony]

@bboynicku I would love to see one of these frame in the World Championship. Wonder how it would compete against the "standard" frames and forks.

[neopaixa77]

@holymacarony This is only a especial design for MOTO2 by Vyrus, but obviously with the motor HONDA 600CC.It was created because they have the intention of compete in MOTO2 with this model.

[AliFugginB]

one radical looking bike.

[prostoswer]

man, I love the new quality of your videos!!!

[CMBDIA]

Holy shit that's sexy.

[bogdanucool]

fuck yeah....I was waiting for a Vyrus video

[TheTonicro]

looks fantastic, great video keep'em coming

[typeonegfr]

Awsome to see the steering wooble under full acceleration  ;o))))))))))))))))))

[me2ontube]

will you guys ever do a review of suter racing's v4 2 stroke with 200hp

[MetalSnakesUK]

I love clever engineering! its great to see another bike using the hub steering system, it could revolutionise everything or it could go nowhere, but its great to see people trying it out. i love the lack of frame and the cool CNC'd housing holding everything in place :-)

that was a wicked video too... well done again neevsy and gang, thumbs up!

[rolid311]

lately the best review MCN, keep up the good work

[spartanturtle333]

I still would ride it like a ninja 250 probably.(or sudden death would befall me)

[ChosenMime8]

I'm pretty sure that motoGP would already run it if it had some true potential...

Being original simply TO BE original and not to improve is the wrong way.

We saw how far ducatti got because they wanted to be "innovative" for the wrong reasons

[Beerbo0711]

I want one!!!!!

[absentofficial]

WHAT A BEAST!

[BikerDarren24]

This is not a Bike!!!

This is a Transformer in Disguise!!!

Stunning :)

[MARIOBLAHA]

0:26 wow

[Crana]

Work of art!

[ccmccooke]

Gosh that would suck to lay it down in a corner

Doubt that thing could survive anytype of wreck

[r1ravenr6raven]

They are the Oakley Holbrook. Good luck getting some. Back ordered for months. Lol

[sampsalol]

What are those sunglasses? I really like them!

[Crana]

@sampsalol they look like they're from the 80's and similar to what Arnie wore in Terminator 2 too actually - "I'll be back." :P

[powersliding]

sounds much nicer than hondas own

[GOBbluthagain]

so much tech and R&D on the bike... same ugly Oem 2007 cbr600rr gauges..

[CAJFB]

Man!!!!!I am blown away!!!!!!!!!Great bike!!!!Great review!!!!Ill add that to my list of must get Bikes!!!!!

[wowIloveusernames]

The modern batmobile. So sexy

[Kawajedi]

this is what you get when a F117 and a Honda mate, they give birth to a thing of beauty and power, I lost a pint of body fluid just watching this....drool

[ProbabilityWave0]

should be test riding a harley fatboy with those glasses :D

can't wait to see the bike in moto2

[ProbabilityWave0]

@ProbabilityWave0

:%s/can't wait/ hope to/g

[omidool]

This is not a bike, it is an Art! It has character! If I ever own one, I would keep it in my living room, instead of the TV!