@AynRandRevolution Ah, something we can agree on. But unfortunately, Obama was not named worst person in the world. Would you like to change the subject again?
@EROX07 Ok lets talk about this fake catholic group whats wrong with calling them the devil they clearly don't follow the teachings of the catholic church they're just calling themselves catholic to lend credibility to the socialist cause and congressmen Mccotter called them out on it. Now back to the peace prize when did it become just another award liberals give to other liberals so they can call each other award winning.
@AynRandRevolution McCotter took demonizing his opponents too literally here. His run for president must have been a step down from his bid for Pope, since he demonstrates he would like the power to excommunicate fellow Catholics.
Also, I'm amused that someone w/Ayn Rand moniker would take McCotter's side in this issue since ms. Rand herself once said "If I were to speak your kind of language, I would say that man's only moral commandment is: Thou shalt think."
@EROX07 Mccotter never said anything about excommunication and hes also know for a kind of twisted sense of humor. I think you're taking him too seriously besides I wouldn't really call telling the truth "demonizing your opponents" Olberdick can suck it.
@AynRandRevolution Not to put too fine a point on it, If you are telling people they are not members of the Catholic Church, you are excommunicating them. If you are calling them "The Devil" you are demonizing them.
@EROX07 You clearly don't know very much about the catholic church. Only the pope (and in certain well defined circumstances a bishop) can excommunicate somebody. Also Mccotter never said that the individual members that made up the group weren't catholic he said that the group itself was not supported by the catholic church (which they are not). also calling them the devil would be an example of a little known literary device called hyperbole I would hope you would know that.
@AynRandRevolution Which is why I said he was running for Pope (or is your attention span that short?) and demonizing IS hyperbole unless you are performing an exorcism (which must also be approved by the Pope or in well defined circumstances, a bishop).
@EROX07 Noo. a hyperbole is an obvious exaggeration like calling a group the devil. Especially a group that uses the name of the catholic church to press its ideology. Telling the truth is not in any way demonizing and even if it was so what? Mccotter doesn't have the freedom of speech to call out a fake catholic group. or does his lack of freedom of speech extend to anybody who disagrees with you politically. Now back to the nobel peace prize wtf they thinking when they gave it to Obama.
@AynRandRevolution Demonizing is not hyperbole? Whatever. McCotter has the right to make an ass of himself. He's done so again. I suppose it's his right. I just wish he would stop exorcising it.
@EROX07 Is all you know mainstream media buzzwords? like demonizing? The fake catholic group was not supported by the catholic church they were using the name of the catholic church to push their ideology. Calling them out for that hardly counts as demonizing. And even if was "demonizing" the group would certainly deserve it since they knowingly used the name of the catholic church to push a political ideology not supported by the catholic church. Now back to the peace prize who should've got it
@AynRandRevolution See. There you go again. They're not Catholic? Where do you get this? Are Catholics supposed to get permission from the church to say anything? Or is there some evidence that a Socialist organization wanted to gain some sympathy by pretending to be Catholic?
And demonizing not a buzzword when you actually call someone the Devil. That's literally what McCotter is doing and he needs to stop.
re: Peace Prize. Again, please stop trying to change the subject and read below.
@EROX07 Some of the individual members may be Catholics however they the group is not espousing views consistent with the catholic church. and why should Mccotter stop hes telling the truth they aren't sanctioned by the catholic church. I don't know if they are pretending to be to be catholic to gain sympathy but pretending to be part of a group to gain sympathy IS a classic Alinsky tactic (see Rules for Radicals)I think Mccotter should keep it up.
@AynRandRevolution Besides if this fake catholic group doesn't need to ask the catholic churches permission then why should Mccotter have to ask your opinion. What authority do you have to decide what people should and shouldn't say. Now back to the peace prize (which was what my original comment was about). When did the peace prize become just another prize liberals give to other liberals so they can call each other award winning.
@EROX07 Im not religious citing scripture does nothing for me. I was simply pointing out that the group is not espousing views consistent with the catholic church. they are just using the catholic name so suit their own agenda
@AynRandRevolution They are espousing views consistent with the teaching of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. If citing religious scripture helps, all the better. They are not using the catholic name to suit their own agenda, they are Catholics and they are saying what they believe.
And for what it's worth, McCotter later changed his vote on S-chip in 2008. I don't know if that makes him more of a hypocrite or less.
@EROX07 They aren't espousing views that have anything to do with any religion, unless you count socialism as a religion which it technically is (it has everything it needs to be to be considered a religion. Doctrine, a set of beliefs and a vision of the sacred) The group is talking about a bill that Mccotter didn't support they are just using the name of the catholic church to push their own ideology that has nothing to do with Catholicism or Christianity for that matter .
@AynRandRevolution "Citing scripture does nothiing for " you, but you know what the Catholic church espouses. This is usually where I'd bring up the parable of the Good Samaritan, but clearly that would be pointless. If you are saying that taking care of the poor has nothing to do with any religion, your argument has jumped the proverbial shark.
And you know this is my vlog, right? I mean, you understand that no matter how many times you rebut, I'm going to get the last word, don't you?
@EROX07 Yes I do know what the catholic church espouses I used to be catholic 12 years of CCD. And there's a difference between taking care of the poor and giving them handouts. besides there isn't much evidence to support that altruism is even a good thing especially when its forced. Even JFK said the best anti poverty program is a job. Government handouts ignore the basic rule of economics that if you subsidize something you get more of it if you tax something you get less of it.
@AynRandRevolution So what's the difference between taking care of the poor and giving them handouts? Do you think that children are getting sick because we are subsidizing it?
@EROX07 Since when does somebody have to be religious to know about religion you don't have to believe in something to learn about it. And yes I know this is you blog. Don't worry I can keep this up for awhile you would have to block me to make me stop. But of course if you did that it would just be more evidence that liberals are the intolerant ones who try to stifle free speech (or any speech that doesn't agree with them)
@AynRandRevolution No one is trying to stifle your speech. I rather enjoy watching you walk over your own argument. Please keep it up. It makes my job much easier.
@EROX07 I'm walking all over my speech? I believe it was you who said that said that saying something negative about a group was the same as excommunicating them. Seriously they aren't victims they aren't oppressed they're just a group using the name of the catholic church to push their own agenda.
@AynRandRevolution They are Catholics and they have the right to say what they believe. You can't tell them they are not and neither can McCotter.
However, you walk over your own argument when you say they're position has nothing to do with religion then blatantly disregard scripture as if the two have nothing to do with each other. Care to square that circle?
@EROX07 Nothing in the clip gave an example of scripture they cited. You cited scripture but as far as I know you have nothing to do with the group. Just because some of the individuals that make up the group are catholic doesn't mean the group is espousing views consistent with the catholic church.. you want to talk about demonization how about Olberman calling Mccotter the worst person in the world.
@AynRandRevolution You are aware that the church espouses the teachings of a man named Jesus Christ, right? He told this parable of a man from Samaria who gave medical aid to a stranger. If you stayed awake in catechism this should ring a bell.
By the way, McCotter changed his vote on this so you are really the only one left arguing that the children of poor people should be left in the street to rot.
@EROX07 Yes I am aware of that story. however Jesus didn't need to take anybodies money, then squander much of it on a large bloated bureaucracy with a rate of fraud nearly 10% in order to do it. Also nobody is left in the street to. Hospitals already have to admit you by law. the bill wasn't about giving children medical care. children can already get medical care whenever they want this bill is about making the taxpayer pay the bill instead of the kids parents.
@AynRandRevolution And when these hospitals admit children to the emergency room (the most expensive type of care) who pays for that? Yep. Taxpayers. And people with insurance.
And actually, Jesus did say to give your money to the government, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's; render unto the Lord that which is the Lord". He was pretty clear on that, too. But he told us, those with ears to hear will hear and there would be people like you.
@EROX07 Ceaser's tax was a 10% tarriff taxes today are considerably higher after you add up federal, state, local, utility, sales, gasoline etc. taxes. Jesus said to pay your taxes NOT TO VOTE FOR NEW ONES. A better solution would be to take the people who don't pay their medical bills to court if they refuse to pay not make their laziness/incompetence/selfishness the responsibility of the tax payers. Also Rome didn't give people medical care at the cost of the taxpayers.
@AynRandRevolution Matt 5:40-42 "...if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you."
(Leviticus 19:27) Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard. Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22) If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be PUT TO DEATH; their blood shall be upon them.
(Leviticus 11:12) Whatsoever has no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you
@EROX07 Perhaps maybe its not a good idea to follow the bible to literally besides Jesus got crucified I don't know about you but I don't want to see America or and Americans crucified.
@AynRandRevolution John 15:13 "Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends."
I see why you're not a Catholic anymore.
Matt 19:21-22 "Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me. When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth."
@EROX07 The bible also advocates stoning disobedient children and homosexuals to death. And says that you cant cut your hair or get a divorce regardless of the circumstances.
And you're right the reason I am not a catholic anymore is because I don't feel like I should be indebted to any parasite less successful than me. Any religion or philosophy that claims that any man should be held as a sacrificial animal for the good of some undefined public is immoral in my mind.
@EROX07 No of course socialism is its own religion however they do share the same misguided sense of altruism. This whole notion that we should all self sacrifice and we should all lower are standard of living and somehow we're all going to be better off is insane. There was a time when Catholics believed as fervently in Catholicism as socialists believe in socialism today. Those time were known as the dark ages. And Europe did not advance for hundreds of years because of it.
@AynRandRevolution The genesis of this discussion was whether or not Catholics United was a socialist front group or reflected the tenants of the Catholic church. You started out saying they didn't; now it sounds like you're saying they do.
@EROX07 Actually my original discussion was about how much of a joke the peace prize has become. Catholicism and socialism do both share a sense of misplaced altruism however any wealth redistribution scheme which requires taking money from one group to give to another breaks 2 commandments Thou shalt not covet (coveting your neighbors money counts) and Thou shalt not steal. The catholic church preaches VOLUNTARY altruism anything forced by the government is not done out of love.
@EROX07 So NO Catholics United is NOT espousing views consistent with the Catholic church. As for whether or not they are secretly a socialist front group. I have no idea. It is entirely possible that they are just a bunch of idiots who THINK they're doing the right thing after all "its for the children is a pretty enticing message"
@EROX07 OK let me use an analogy. A dog and a squid are BOTH animals because of that they will have DNA that is similar in many ways to one another even though they are very different. Catholicism and Socialism do share a misguided sense of altruism at their core. However their real world applications are very different. Socialism seeks equality of results through government force. Catholicism does not. I do not care for either one though I would certainly pick Catholicism as the lesser evil.
@AynRandRevolution You're not very good at this. It sounds like both animals are very altruistic and one just wants the McCotter to act on this issue while the other wants him to act on others, like say abortion.
If we went through this whole debate so you could take that position, I'm very disappointed.
I'm pretty sure that winning Keith Olberdouche's worst person in the world is more prestigious than winning the Nobel peace prize at this point.
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
@AynRandRevolution I don't think they give out the Peace prize for calling Catholics the Devil.
EROX07 4 months ago
@EROX07 Do you still get to keep the peace prize if a few months later you turn around bomb libya
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
@AynRandRevolution Ah, something we can agree on. But unfortunately, Obama was not named worst person in the world. Would you like to change the subject again?
EROX07 4 months ago
@EROX07 Ok lets talk about this fake catholic group whats wrong with calling them the devil they clearly don't follow the teachings of the catholic church they're just calling themselves catholic to lend credibility to the socialist cause and congressmen Mccotter called them out on it. Now back to the peace prize when did it become just another award liberals give to other liberals so they can call each other award winning.
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
@AynRandRevolution McCotter took demonizing his opponents too literally here. His run for president must have been a step down from his bid for Pope, since he demonstrates he would like the power to excommunicate fellow Catholics.
Also, I'm amused that someone w/Ayn Rand moniker would take McCotter's side in this issue since ms. Rand herself once said "If I were to speak your kind of language, I would say that man's only moral commandment is: Thou shalt think."
EROX07 4 months ago
@EROX07 Mccotter never said anything about excommunication and hes also know for a kind of twisted sense of humor. I think you're taking him too seriously besides I wouldn't really call telling the truth "demonizing your opponents" Olberdick can suck it.
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
@AynRandRevolution Not to put too fine a point on it, If you are telling people they are not members of the Catholic Church, you are excommunicating them. If you are calling them "The Devil" you are demonizing them.
jus'sayin'.
EROX07 4 months ago
@EROX07 You clearly don't know very much about the catholic church. Only the pope (and in certain well defined circumstances a bishop) can excommunicate somebody. Also Mccotter never said that the individual members that made up the group weren't catholic he said that the group itself was not supported by the catholic church (which they are not). also calling them the devil would be an example of a little known literary device called hyperbole I would hope you would know that.
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
@AynRandRevolution Which is why I said he was running for Pope (or is your attention span that short?) and demonizing IS hyperbole unless you are performing an exorcism (which must also be approved by the Pope or in well defined circumstances, a bishop).
EROX07 4 months ago
@EROX07 Noo. a hyperbole is an obvious exaggeration like calling a group the devil. Especially a group that uses the name of the catholic church to press its ideology. Telling the truth is not in any way demonizing and even if it was so what? Mccotter doesn't have the freedom of speech to call out a fake catholic group. or does his lack of freedom of speech extend to anybody who disagrees with you politically. Now back to the nobel peace prize wtf they thinking when they gave it to Obama.
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
@AynRandRevolution Demonizing is not hyperbole? Whatever. McCotter has the right to make an ass of himself. He's done so again. I suppose it's his right. I just wish he would stop exorcising it.
As for the Peace prize, please see below:
EROX07 4 months ago
@EROX07 Is all you know mainstream media buzzwords? like demonizing? The fake catholic group was not supported by the catholic church they were using the name of the catholic church to push their ideology. Calling them out for that hardly counts as demonizing. And even if was "demonizing" the group would certainly deserve it since they knowingly used the name of the catholic church to push a political ideology not supported by the catholic church. Now back to the peace prize who should've got it
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
@AynRandRevolution See. There you go again. They're not Catholic? Where do you get this? Are Catholics supposed to get permission from the church to say anything? Or is there some evidence that a Socialist organization wanted to gain some sympathy by pretending to be Catholic?
And demonizing not a buzzword when you actually call someone the Devil. That's literally what McCotter is doing and he needs to stop.
re: Peace Prize. Again, please stop trying to change the subject and read below.
EROX07 4 months ago
@EROX07 Some of the individual members may be Catholics however they the group is not espousing views consistent with the catholic church. and why should Mccotter stop hes telling the truth they aren't sanctioned by the catholic church. I don't know if they are pretending to be to be catholic to gain sympathy but pretending to be part of a group to gain sympathy IS a classic Alinsky tactic (see Rules for Radicals)I think Mccotter should keep it up.
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
@AynRandRevolution Besides if this fake catholic group doesn't need to ask the catholic churches permission then why should Mccotter have to ask your opinion. What authority do you have to decide what people should and shouldn't say. Now back to the peace prize (which was what my original comment was about). When did the peace prize become just another prize liberals give to other liberals so they can call each other award winning.
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
@AynRandRevolution
"No one should be fooled when this Devil sites scripture for his own purpose." McCotter
"All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for CORRECTION and for training in righteousness." Tim 3:16
EROX07 4 months ago
@EROX07 Im not religious citing scripture does nothing for me. I was simply pointing out that the group is not espousing views consistent with the catholic church. they are just using the catholic name so suit their own agenda
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
@AynRandRevolution They are espousing views consistent with the teaching of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. If citing religious scripture helps, all the better. They are not using the catholic name to suit their own agenda, they are Catholics and they are saying what they believe.
And for what it's worth, McCotter later changed his vote on S-chip in 2008. I don't know if that makes him more of a hypocrite or less.
EROX07 4 months ago
@EROX07 They aren't espousing views that have anything to do with any religion, unless you count socialism as a religion which it technically is (it has everything it needs to be to be considered a religion. Doctrine, a set of beliefs and a vision of the sacred) The group is talking about a bill that Mccotter didn't support they are just using the name of the catholic church to push their own ideology that has nothing to do with Catholicism or Christianity for that matter .
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
@AynRandRevolution "Citing scripture does nothiing for " you, but you know what the Catholic church espouses. This is usually where I'd bring up the parable of the Good Samaritan, but clearly that would be pointless. If you are saying that taking care of the poor has nothing to do with any religion, your argument has jumped the proverbial shark.
And you know this is my vlog, right? I mean, you understand that no matter how many times you rebut, I'm going to get the last word, don't you?
EROX07 4 months ago
@EROX07 Yes I do know what the catholic church espouses I used to be catholic 12 years of CCD. And there's a difference between taking care of the poor and giving them handouts. besides there isn't much evidence to support that altruism is even a good thing especially when its forced. Even JFK said the best anti poverty program is a job. Government handouts ignore the basic rule of economics that if you subsidize something you get more of it if you tax something you get less of it.
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
@AynRandRevolution So what's the difference between taking care of the poor and giving them handouts? Do you think that children are getting sick because we are subsidizing it?
EROX07 4 months ago
@EROX07 Since when does somebody have to be religious to know about religion you don't have to believe in something to learn about it. And yes I know this is you blog. Don't worry I can keep this up for awhile you would have to block me to make me stop. But of course if you did that it would just be more evidence that liberals are the intolerant ones who try to stifle free speech (or any speech that doesn't agree with them)
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
@AynRandRevolution No one is trying to stifle your speech. I rather enjoy watching you walk over your own argument. Please keep it up. It makes my job much easier.
EROX07 4 months ago
@EROX07 I'm walking all over my speech? I believe it was you who said that said that saying something negative about a group was the same as excommunicating them. Seriously they aren't victims they aren't oppressed they're just a group using the name of the catholic church to push their own agenda.
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
@AynRandRevolution They are Catholics and they have the right to say what they believe. You can't tell them they are not and neither can McCotter.
However, you walk over your own argument when you say they're position has nothing to do with religion then blatantly disregard scripture as if the two have nothing to do with each other. Care to square that circle?
EROX07 4 months ago
@EROX07 Nothing in the clip gave an example of scripture they cited. You cited scripture but as far as I know you have nothing to do with the group. Just because some of the individuals that make up the group are catholic doesn't mean the group is espousing views consistent with the catholic church.. you want to talk about demonization how about Olberman calling Mccotter the worst person in the world.
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
@AynRandRevolution You are aware that the church espouses the teachings of a man named Jesus Christ, right? He told this parable of a man from Samaria who gave medical aid to a stranger. If you stayed awake in catechism this should ring a bell.
By the way, McCotter changed his vote on this so you are really the only one left arguing that the children of poor people should be left in the street to rot.
EROX07 4 months ago
@EROX07 Yes I am aware of that story. however Jesus didn't need to take anybodies money, then squander much of it on a large bloated bureaucracy with a rate of fraud nearly 10% in order to do it. Also nobody is left in the street to. Hospitals already have to admit you by law. the bill wasn't about giving children medical care. children can already get medical care whenever they want this bill is about making the taxpayer pay the bill instead of the kids parents.
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
@AynRandRevolution And when these hospitals admit children to the emergency room (the most expensive type of care) who pays for that? Yep. Taxpayers. And people with insurance.
And actually, Jesus did say to give your money to the government, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's; render unto the Lord that which is the Lord". He was pretty clear on that, too. But he told us, those with ears to hear will hear and there would be people like you.
EROX07 4 months ago
@EROX07 Ceaser's tax was a 10% tarriff taxes today are considerably higher after you add up federal, state, local, utility, sales, gasoline etc. taxes. Jesus said to pay your taxes NOT TO VOTE FOR NEW ONES. A better solution would be to take the people who don't pay their medical bills to court if they refuse to pay not make their laziness/incompetence/selfishness the responsibility of the tax payers. Also Rome didn't give people medical care at the cost of the taxpayers.
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
@AynRandRevolution Matt 5:40-42 "...if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you."
You're not very good at this, are you?
EROX07 4 months ago
@EROX07
(Leviticus 19:27) Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard. Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22) If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be PUT TO DEATH; their blood shall be upon them.
(Leviticus 11:12) Whatsoever has no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
@EROX07 Perhaps maybe its not a good idea to follow the bible to literally besides Jesus got crucified I don't know about you but I don't want to see America or and Americans crucified.
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
@AynRandRevolution John 15:13 "Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends."
I see why you're not a Catholic anymore.
Matt 19:21-22 "Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me. When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth."
EROX07 4 months ago
@EROX07 The bible also advocates stoning disobedient children and homosexuals to death. And says that you cant cut your hair or get a divorce regardless of the circumstances.
And you're right the reason I am not a catholic anymore is because I don't feel like I should be indebted to any parasite less successful than me. Any religion or philosophy that claims that any man should be held as a sacrificial animal for the good of some undefined public is immoral in my mind.
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
@AynRandRevolution Finally, we get to the heart of it. You think the Catholic church IS a socialist front group.
EROX07 4 months ago
@EROX07 No of course socialism is its own religion however they do share the same misguided sense of altruism. This whole notion that we should all self sacrifice and we should all lower are standard of living and somehow we're all going to be better off is insane. There was a time when Catholics believed as fervently in Catholicism as socialists believe in socialism today. Those time were known as the dark ages. And Europe did not advance for hundreds of years because of it.
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
@AynRandRevolution The genesis of this discussion was whether or not Catholics United was a socialist front group or reflected the tenants of the Catholic church. You started out saying they didn't; now it sounds like you're saying they do.
Which is it?
EROX07 4 months ago
@EROX07 Actually my original discussion was about how much of a joke the peace prize has become. Catholicism and socialism do both share a sense of misplaced altruism however any wealth redistribution scheme which requires taking money from one group to give to another breaks 2 commandments Thou shalt not covet (coveting your neighbors money counts) and Thou shalt not steal. The catholic church preaches VOLUNTARY altruism anything forced by the government is not done out of love.
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
@EROX07 So NO Catholics United is NOT espousing views consistent with the Catholic church. As for whether or not they are secretly a socialist front group. I have no idea. It is entirely possible that they are just a bunch of idiots who THINK they're doing the right thing after all "its for the children is a pretty enticing message"
AynRandRevolution 4 months ago
@AynRandRevolution "Catholics United is NOT espousing views consistent with the Catholic church."
"however they do share the same misguided sense of altruism."
So which is it?
EROX07 3 months ago
@EROX07 OK let me use an analogy. A dog and a squid are BOTH animals because of that they will have DNA that is similar in many ways to one another even though they are very different. Catholicism and Socialism do share a misguided sense of altruism at their core. However their real world applications are very different. Socialism seeks equality of results through government force. Catholicism does not. I do not care for either one though I would certainly pick Catholicism as the lesser evil.
AynRandRevolution 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution You're not very good at this. It sounds like both animals are very altruistic and one just wants the McCotter to act on this issue while the other wants him to act on others, like say abortion.
If we went through this whole debate so you could take that position, I'm very disappointed.
EROX07 3 months ago
@AynRandRevolution And, no. We won't get back to the peace prize since we already agree on that point.
EROX07 4 months ago
That makes me like Thad even more! Olberdouche is a waste of oxygen....
whippard 1 year ago