The advantage of moving off line decreases with the length of the stick. My guess is you are a FMA stick fighter or a short stick fighter? Y/N Our approach is exactly the same as in Kendo. The extra length of the stick allows for more reaction time, so it is just too easy to counter an off line attack with a simple and small pivot.
@zibtor Yep, it's geometry. With a short stick stepping offline makes a big difference, say about a 45 degree angle. Stepping to the side with a long stick only makes about a 10 degree difference, so advancing and retreating is a bigger help.
I've read unsubstantiated claims that the last vestiges of Irish martial arts are evident in hurling. This would seem to support a single handed grip theory if true.
They do have some flex to them . Just enough to remove the bone breaking force. They get more flexible with use but when they are new they feel almost like the real thing.
It is not a perfect solution but as you can plainly see , they allow for genuine speed and timing.
One formula for practice sticks... Four of the (non-dyed) skinny bamboo sticks sold as stakes for gardening, bundled around a core of unstretched "shot" cord, and all bound together with cloth hockey stick tape...
From what I have studied, typically in traditionally Irish stick fighting ,the grips on the stick is one high and one low, using more of the stick as a weapon. To me, this resembles a more fencing approach. But well done though.
There is virtually zero evidence supporting your observation. All of the recorded evidence points to a single handed grip. Usually around the one third mark of the stick. But I would change that observation to read the balance point of the stick (different for every stick and every fighter.
I'm Irish-American, too, and I have a lot of respect for Irish stick fighting. This is just a formal version of it with the protective gear; with no rules and no headgear, these guys could kick ass as much as the stick fighters in Ireland did.
how do you guys match up against fma?
icemanfede 5 months ago
...Do they just not teach circular footwork or how to off line?
BuckMuscles 1 year ago
The advantage of moving off line decreases with the length of the stick. My guess is you are a FMA stick fighter or a short stick fighter? Y/N Our approach is exactly the same as in Kendo. The extra length of the stick allows for more reaction time, so it is just too easy to counter an off line attack with a simple and small pivot.
zibtor 1 year ago
@zibtor Funny that you say that. I was just thinking that it would be an interesting match up against a kendo practitioner.
MorteWulfe 1 year ago
@zibtor Maybe. If you just step of line. Try combining your footwork with a simultaneous attack or block. Interesting clip though. Nice1
Rapist87 1 year ago
@zibtor Yep, it's geometry. With a short stick stepping offline makes a big difference, say about a 45 degree angle. Stepping to the side with a long stick only makes about a 10 degree difference, so advancing and retreating is a bigger help.
ProfessorChaos1982 10 months ago
thanks for posting. i train in bataireacht too. i love it so much. if i couldn't do it id be fat right now. haha
bikepeddlar6 2 years ago
Very impressive indeed.
What are the differences compared to e.g. Filipino Stick Fighting?
I enjoyed the video.
MartialArtsReporter 2 years ago
I've read unsubstantiated claims that the last vestiges of Irish martial arts are evident in hurling. This would seem to support a single handed grip theory if true.
GameDevMonkey 2 years ago
thats really cool
but take over the protection if you wont to the the irish way....really
irishbuy 2 years ago
i woul dnot want to get hit with one of those sticks to the face without a helmet. broken face and knockout for sure
doctorchalupa 2 years ago
What is the material of these practice sticks? they look flexiable in the vid, but that could just be an optical illusion from the swing.
Any way, material? construction method or purchase site?
MichaelJPierce 2 years ago
They do have some flex to them . Just enough to remove the bone breaking force. They get more flexible with use but when they are new they feel almost like the real thing.
It is not a perfect solution but as you can plainly see , they allow for genuine speed and timing.
zibtor 2 years ago
One formula for practice sticks... Four of the (non-dyed) skinny bamboo sticks sold as stakes for gardening, bundled around a core of unstretched "shot" cord, and all bound together with cloth hockey stick tape...
lockhughes 2 years ago
From what I have studied, typically in traditionally Irish stick fighting ,the grips on the stick is one high and one low, using more of the stick as a weapon. To me, this resembles a more fencing approach. But well done though.
RazryadWarrior 2 years ago 4
There is virtually zero evidence supporting your observation. All of the recorded evidence points to a single handed grip. Usually around the one third mark of the stick. But I would change that observation to read the balance point of the stick (different for every stick and every fighter.
zibtor 2 years ago
its a real shame this part of irish culture has been ignored for so long
im glad to see its being recognized
still a ways to go yet though
and anyone who says its not irish
cop the fuck on
Obiwankenobistarfish 2 years ago
I'm Irish-American, too, and I have a lot of respect for Irish stick fighting. This is just a formal version of it with the protective gear; with no rules and no headgear, these guys could kick ass as much as the stick fighters in Ireland did.
Great stuff!
silverojo 3 years ago
that looks like fun.
Wiegieboard 3 years ago 2
Great stuff! I'd be scared if I came across either of you in a dark alley.
madrigalblue 4 years ago
aye laddy
venomouscreed 4 years ago 2
That looks great.
CanHardlyBelieveIt 4 years ago 2