Numerous posts on where is the credible proof to explain climate variation?
Well there is such proof but no one wants to listen. The results demonstrate an unassailable correlation with historic climate data and because the data can be calculated, the future climate patterns can also be calculated, a forecast for the next two decades is shown and we are in for a long cold spell in the Northern hemisphere.
Mr. Al Gore we now understand your convenient lie and complot Maybe now with the help of Haarp (WMCND) you could warm up and microwave your home land.
Radical reduction of the global Human population ensures carbon emissions also get reduced.
Excising the UN's proposed "life-tax" part of its larger Global Governance Initiative, is a necessary monetary evil that's critical to the re-greening of Earth and the cessation of Climate Change now destroying our planet.
We applaud all those involved in the establishing and underwriting of the new Cap & Trade schema and salute key-individuals from the Private & Federal investment sectors for their help!
Is it really warming? Don't listen to the "experts". Go straight to the data itself. If you would like to explore the data underpinning the cooling trend for yourselves, I've made three short videos to guide you through:
He says it's arrogant to assume that mankind controls the climate of the UNIVERSE. Haha omg and we're supposed to believe these people. The Heartland Institute, once told us tobacco is harmless. Now they tell us CO2 is harmless. When you look at their funding, ExxonMobil. Yet I'm supposed to believe what they say is truth, while NASA, NOAA, USGS, and top universities are all in on a big conspiracy to hide 'cooling'. Lets all ignore that the sun was simply at a low period in its cycle.
OFC China and India won't be part of the cap'n trade ... they have scientists who know the AGW is shit and they are happy to see the west destroy it's self with carbon tax.
Even if every bit of mud slung at these scientists were true, the body of scientific work supporting the theory of human-caused climate change—which spans hundreds of thousands of scientific papers written by tens of thousands of scientists in dozens of different scientific disciplines—is too vast to be budged by the flaws in the works of the three or four scientists being subject to the fiercest attacks.
They are saying it because the satellite data shows the earth is cooling. Watch it again. Since last January many more data sets confirm this. We also now have the leaked data and emails from the University of East Anglia CRU that shows they were frantically trying to conceal this cooling. In fact the 'Hockey Stick' graph of Michael Mann was even a fraud. It might be more apt to ask why alarmists are still sticking to the warminst 'faith' despite clear evidence. That is not science.
Yes I know. Sarcasam does not translate well on youtube posts. I am saying, why is a major news outlet telling the truth? The media is the second hand in the GW caused by humans lie.
You know, its hard to listen to Lehr and not get pissed off. BTW - he was arrested and convicted for committing fraud- he falsified billing records and stole several hundred grand from US EPA. He did a year in prison. No one in the field respects this guy. He will say anything to get on TV. He spends most of his time seeking out press. Those who don't know the field are bamboozled by his acting skills. There is no "WE" for jay - he works for no one. Unempolyable, he lives in a dump in Ohio.
I am an environmental geologist and do science for a living. First, Jay H. Lehr is a fraud. He has less credibility than Al Gore.
Secondly, the global climate system is VERY complicated. Simplistic explainations like "sunspots" , "A cool Summer" etc.. do not mean a damn thing. The climate system is only about 80% understood. We do not know all the system factors nor how they all interact .
All we can say is over time, CO2 and temp have climbed together - and dramatically.
So, as a "scientist", you obviously know that CO2 has very little to do with temperature increases AND you know that the two largest banks of CO2 and the atmosphere and we know little about the exchange rates between the two right? And you also know, because you are a "scientist" that the earth has actually started cooling again.....because geologists are also meteorologists and hell.....all oligists are scientists and are experts in everything
why do you have scientist in quotes. Look co2 is a greenhouse gas. It traps heat. It is basic chemistry than can be proven in the lab. I do not understand your argument. Look if we switch to renewable energy we will not only be lowering c02 emission but also cleaning our air of potential toxins. A route to greener plant does not just mean lower co2 but also less mercury in our fish and lower levels of dioxin in breast milk.
CO2 is a gas. The two largest banks of it are the ocean and the atmosphere and they transfer from year to year and we have no clue how they transfer but we do know people have nothing to do with it
@ParasiteJR And by growing plants and then eating them, or the animals that eat them, you are removing CO2 from the air and putting the carbon into your body. What's your point?
Al Gore's father was an employee of Occidental Petroleum, something he fails to mention in his movie: "An Inconvenient Truth". Al Gore senior made $500,000 a year working for an Oil Company. Al Gore had no problems with Carbon when he made money from it.
@MaxSafeheaD ,Americans did not invade Iraq, The American Government brought them in to that war. And as for Americans driving SUVS, I don't see what your point is?Should Americans ride around on mopeds instead? Al Gore rides around in A PRIVATE JET and has at least 3 mansions, all with hot tubs, extensive lighting etc. Americans were told to consume for years by Madison Avenue and other Government Lobbyists, now the Government wants to punish them for a dream that they were sold.
@jerbiebarb According to who? You? You are who? As I said before, science.....REAL science tells us that humans have nothing to do with the transfer patterns of CO2. The information is out there. Go check it out. Remember, at the first "Earthday" they were warning of the coming ice age. We've placed temperature monitors on airport tarmacs, next to out door furnaces, next to industrial ac evaporators etc. How accurate is that? We have thousands of scientists that beleive Global warming is bogus.
@charlitunaman2002 Humans affect the climate more than volcanoes, doesn't this warrant your concern? There might be a little ice age within 20 years if the ocean are freshened at crucial locations. Weather events form at 15,000 ft, and sfc temp discontinuities have already been addressed by the data people anyway. I can help you understand this fast changing field, or ask a weather hobbyist you trust.
@jerbiebarb Um....still not getting it? The "science" behind this is flawed. Now let me set the record straight for a third time.......Humans do not effect the transfer of CO2 from the ocean to the atmosphere. That was my original and secondary statement. The science proves that. Now, scurry along and go disprove what thousands of scientists have proven. Stop reading internet rumors and go do some real research.
@charlitunaman2002 Is effected a word? My English is bad, but I think it's affected.
Big brains online don't try to determine intelligence levels by just a few posts. That immediately signals low intelligence. LoL Or maybe you're a teenager? In any case, where's the content? because you're not very clever at insults. Add some value to your posts.
@charlitunaman2002 All you are saying is nothing. My statement still stands. The research shows that humans have no "affect" (happy now) on the transfers of CO2. Your comments don't change this. Science has proven this. Sorry you are just now reading this and have to play "catch up". But yet again....no I'm not. Ignorance is your bliss and we can spend YOUR tax dollars on a mythical problem
I'm just a meteorologist, I don't know about tax policy, but we have to pay for our good life here.
Humans don't affect CO2 transfers between air and water. The physics of CO2 release and absorption has been scientifically described. I wish I knew what your point was, you might have a new angle and you might be right.
@jerbiebarb Oh, so you are just another run of the mill so called "weather men" that tell us that its going to be sunny or rainy.......then it doesn't happen. You are the meteorology equivalent to a chiropractor. No real science but a lot of guessing. Guessing on CO2 transfers.....guessing on weather, guessing on global warming....lots of guessing, No hard core answers.........SHOCKER! You should have been runner up with Al Gore!!!!! The real science......says both of you should go home
@charlitunaman2002 Can you imagine what a weather forecaster does? We look at the runs and we draw upon our experience with the window. The idealized models of weather producing disturbances have been long since categorized. Our problem is to best fit the cyclogenesis and the frontolysis with what the numbers say. There's the speed of the long wave with the speed of the short wave and exactly where the vort maxes will be strong enough, but not too strong. Fascinating work every new day!
@charlitunaman2002 When the cores of Mars and Venus became less active, tectonics stopped for billions of years, flaring up only briefly 500 mya on Venus, but it was already too late. We somewhat understand how these planets' atmospheres changed permanently. Now humans are slowing down the Carbon Cycle on Earth by speeding up ocean outgassing and raising levels etc. These are the observations. Is this what you're referring to?
@charlitunaman2002 technically you're half right, CO2 we don't control on a global basis, but the more prevalent and natural gas is H2O which is from the oceans, try and prevent H2O from entering the atmo and heating things, i dare you... seems ridiculous right? well that's why we went after C02, easier to tax, measurable, and people are stupid, Global temperature change is natural and not influenced by humans, i commend you for your intelligence
@charlitunaman2002 I believe you left out the biomass CO2 sink which is as large as the Ocean's. This makes the atmospheric CO2 sink extremely small in comparison. Ninety-six billion tons annually each from the ocean and about the same from the biomass. Only 6 billion tons annually from man made sources of which only half remains in the atmosphere. CO2 atmospheric turnover rate is approximately 5 years.
@charlitunaman2002 Actually we know a fair bit about how and why the ocean and atmosphere exchange CO2. Yes people aren't involved. You seem to miss the important part. Of all the CO2 we're putting into the air half is absorbed by the ocean because the ocean absorbs more than it emits. If it wasn't, and soon it may not, it would be warming faster.
Well how come you never hear Al Gore or any other of the Global Warming proponents talking about toxic waste being dumped by the large corporations? How come Al Gore never speaks out against Oil Companies who illegally dump their waste and poison drinking water just like Texaco did in Ecuador? Al Gore and his "Global Warming " gang are a bunch of crooks that don't give a shit about the Planet. You must be fucking stupid trusting a bunch of politicians.
2. Where do you get your information on climate change - from climate science or from the medie that might just possibly be influenced by the most powerful industry on the planet?
Well...I live here in Mexicali Baja California Mexico City, the everage temperature in summer is 110 F, but we have a mysterious event this past June 2009, when in June 3 we stil have temperatures around the 90's, that is weird cause at that time we should have reached the 105 to 109 F degrees, since may, and about now July we should have reach the 120 + F as usual, thing that had have not happen, very mysterious and weird, probably we are cooling.....
I know Dr. Jay H. Lehr personally. The man is a fraud. First of all, he has NOT worked in the field of climatology nor agriculture. In fact, all he has done is run an association for 20 years until he was arrested and sent to federal prison for stealing money from US EPA.
Lehr has about as much expertise in Climatology as Al Gore - both are just ego freaks who read other peoples work and then twist it into something that will get them on TV. No one respects Lehr.
With the axing of the CNN Science News team, most science stories at CNN are now being given to general assignment reporters who don't necessarily have the background to know when they are being taken for a ride.
On the Lou Dobbs show (an evening news program on cable for those of you not in the US), the last few weeks have brought a series of embarrassing non-stories on 'global cooling' based it seems on a few cold snaps this winter, the fact that we are at a solar minimum and a regurgitation of 1970s vintage interpretations of Milankovitch theory (via Pravda of all places!).
Combine that with a few hysterical (in both senses) non-scientists as talking heads and you end up with a repeat of the nonsensical 'Cooling world' media stories that were misleading in the 1970s and are just as misleading now.
Vierotchka: I will simply say this, there are more and more scientists coming out and saying this same stuff. The fact is that the earth has been cooling for ten years now. and its easy to say anyone going against global warming is driven by the oil companies, but yet what about all the money these scientists get from the UN and other governmental bodies to "prove" global warming. Are they not driven by greed? to politicians all it has ever been about is money. the sap and trade system proves it
That may be so, but not one of these scientists are remotely connected to climatology or paleo-climatology and therefore not at all qualified. The fact is that earth has NOT been cooling for ten years now. Indeed, Sweden, Norway and Finland have, during the past ten years, had temperatures ABOVE freezing in the middle of winter, something that has never ever happened before.
Furthermore, the United Nations does NOT pay scientists to prove global warming. You seem to know very little, if anything at all, about the United Nations or how it works.
The IPCC, which comes directly from the UN does not wish to fund projects that could discredit man made Global warming, over 600 scientist off the panel dont believe the theory so there funding through the panel was cut, only those that push the theory are supported by the UN.. they only do as they wish and will mislead us from reality to try to accomplish there original goals, a one world order
a lot of the scientists are climatologists that are coming out against man made global warming.. im from the midwestern united states and we had our 10th coldest december, 4th coldest january, and 15th coldest february on record all in the same winter, we didnt see spring time till atleast May when mid-march is the norm.. but that is all pointless because its very short term as is what you said.. the overall averages show a slight drop in global temperatures since 1998
Why did Lou Dobbs chose to book a convicted felon from a phony baloney think tank, that's in pay of the coal lobby ?
Don't trot out Jay Lehr - Convicted Felon / "Climate Expert", and have him claim it's the sun. The sun is not putting out more energy, and the earth is not cooling. If this is the case please present the peer reviewed studies, to support those two central claims of Mr. Lehr.
Phony science, at best. The five hottest years on record occurred during the past ten years - NASA.
Here in Switzerland, we are currently having an unprecedented heat-wave - over 30° centigrade, the kind of temperatures we usually get during Dog Days in July/August.
It has got cooler the past 2 years, 2008 was pretty cold, 2009 is cooler to me... and here in upstate NY our winter had record snow and we had a few record lows, one was -32.
And hate to bust some ppl's bubble but the 1930's was much more warmer than the past warming 1998-2007, that was nothing.
I think we are cooling, It's still cool here and Spring is in no hurry.
Global Warming is a hoax! We go from one extreme to the other.
that comment is exactly what's wrong with people.. that's not how climatology works man! 2 years is only one blip of proxy data on a larger climatological model. the earth is billions of years old and 2 years is proof of absolutely nothing. we have been in this interglacial for 10 thousand years now. you are confusing climate with weather. not the same. that said, i don't believe in anthropogenic climate change for rational reasons. but the earth has been steadily warming since around the 70s.
Well I hardly call from the 1970's to the first decade of the 2000's a big success, anyway in the 70's Global Cooling was in the media, now the other way around, I didn't believe in GC and I don't believe in GW, that's the way it works... many Scientists do not believe in GW, many do... depends if it's a Political Scxientist or a Real Scientist. Another thing from the 70's to now from ten thousand years, as you say... well, that's not enough to get an accurate trend either.
yes i know. that's the point i was trying to make but i didn't have enough characters or whatever left to write it out and didn't want to spam post a whole bunch.
*Real scientists don't believe in Global Warming, they know that it is a fact*
No, a real Scientist does not just "know" something
They create the proper tests, re test, and check for re-testability to reach a conclusion
This is why Nasa attempted to send a Carbon detector to space (rocket accident) and Japan succesfully did...to Test if Co2 amount is as 1) Hgh as said and 2) Is emmited from Humans in as much quantiies as estimates.
Likewise we are sending up acturate thermal scannerssoon
humans only emit 6% of all the CO2 emitted every year, volcanic activity is responsible for the bulk of CO2 emissions.. but besides that, CO2 is only really a greenhouse gas in higher quantities, like 0.1% or more.. why does CO2 continue to rise, yet temperatures continue to drop? in 1998 the earth was at 365 ppm and 2008 383 ppm, yet in that time period temps have dropped 0.2 degrees, CO2 doesnt drive our climate it gives the planet life! The sun drives our climate.
It is not a question of quantity, it is a question of effect. Furthermore, through its meat-eating habits and the breeding of billions of cattle, humanity has added enormously to the methane content of the atmosphere - methane is a much more powerful greenhouse-effect gas than is CO2.
although 30% of all methane in the atmosphere is human caused it represents less then 0.1% of all greenhouse gases. Its levels are not high enough to dramatically influence our climate. Lets all not forget that water vapor is the main greenhouse gas and can effect the climate, its over 95% of all greenhouse gases. The arrogance mankind has is amazing to actually believe our effects can control the climate.
on top of that here is a number that really makes us feel insignificant.. In one tenth of a second the sun generates more energy then mankind has in its entire existence.. the sun is what drives our climate.. "wel dee dee dee duh! that big old yella thing in the sky really is sumthin, who'd a thunk it!" everytime someone someone doesnt include the sun in debating climate change i just wanna say what i quoted, mainly cause its true
**Which is EXACTLY what qualified scientists have done, and reached the conclusion of the reality of global warming**
No, they have actually Reached the conclusion that the Hypothoses is worth looking into thus the Launching of various satalittes Such as the JAXA(Japan's NASA) Carbon Detecting Orbiter last year to test if there is as much Co2 as claimed worldwide and with it's sister satalites checking tempature/climate differences see if the Observable data matches AGW Theory Models/Sims
**Which is EXACTLY what qualified scientists have done, and reached the conclusion of the reality of global warming**
No,no. All your Archair "Climate Experts" in their University run weather stations and cushy teaching jobs at the University is run simulations on limited data and corrolation
The REAL Scientist are now going to test if the real world data matches the simulations and models with the new satellites that can actualy test if the corrolation holds up
Our Sun is the alpha and omega when it comes to temperatures on this world. Carbondioxide is not a greenhouse gas, just study the planet Mars atmosphere and you will see! Even though our world is getting colder and colder with our Sun´s very low activity, the controlled Media is lying to us like a snake that the World is "getting warmer". This bloody lie about a "man-made global warming" is just a tool to degenerate the World into a new "convinient" medieval age with only one king.
Now lets look at that satellite data. greyfalcon. net/ rsstemps2.png greyfalcon. net/ elnino greyfalcon. net/ lanina Now how does the sun explain what's going on? greyfalcon. net/ solar4.png greyfalcon. net/ solar7 Water vapor doesn't drive temperature changes, it merely magnifies them. greyfalcon. net/ watervapor.png As for Mars, we already figured that out two years ago. greyfalcon. net/ mars greyfalcon. net/ mars2
I have a feeling someone believes in this NWO conspiracy bullshit. At the same time completely blind to the fact that the oil industry already practically rules!
@MaxSafeheaD . Well how come Al Gore never spoke out against any Oil Company? Could it be that his father worked for one? Could it be that EXXON nad other companies gives millions in donations to Both Democrats and Republicans?. By the way, I think its hilarious that you, A British man is blaming Americans for Iraq!Your country did a pretty good job of invading other countires, robbing their wealth and slaughtering their natives throughout history.
Well at least we agree oil companies have enough power to dominate the media, corroupt any politician and still make a fortune.
I'm not defending anything that the UK has done in the past, I'm disgusted with the place. It's only because my friends and family are here that I've not emigrated.
This guys an idiot, the lack in sunspots is due to the solar minimum. Which comes every 22 years. Solar maximum and solar minimum rotate every 11 years.
Al Gore is a tool but there's absolutely nothing wrong with cleaning up the air for our heaths sake. I'm sure it's pretty bad on our bodies breathing all those contaminates and pollutants. It was 74 degrees here in Texas today and it's February
exacerbatedtaboo - the only thing we need to do to clean up our air for our healths' sake is to get them to stop the chemtrail spraying. Breathing all the pollutants and contaminants they spray on us is very bad for our bodies.
@MaxSafeheaD. The typical response I get from people when I speak out against Al Gore is that I am a NeoCon-Bush Lover. I have zero respect for both parties, but as it happens I find Al gore more offensive. After all he makes "scientific Movies" and pretends he's a green god. I am not going to waste anymore time arguing with you, winning an argument with you would be like winning the Special Olympics.
What are you talking about winning an argument for? It seems to me like you've just mistaken me for someone who cares what Gore says. I have no interest in whether Gore says the sky is blue, I've been following the climate change debate for over a decade
When I was first introduced to the global warming idea, it was from a pair of professors at a private school I attended back in 1967.
They were not trying to fool anybody, they were just adding up simple logic, and comparing it to the facts of the day.
Even in those technological dark ages, one of the predictable effects of our heating the atmosphere, is the heat is expected to cause the pendulum to swing the other way for a short time.
somehow you got marked down to -5 for that statement, I have a small incling why - US voters =/
I can remember back in the 80's David Attenborough talking about global warming and learning about it in school. It's amasing to see the level of ignorance still prevelant in society but then again half of them don't even understand evolution let alone climate science.
@MaxSafeheaD Our active core is the reason our planet hasn't overheated like Venus, but we're currently overwhelming this balance. We shouldn't argue with climate experts if we don't know the basics.
@MaxSafeheaD The link didn't work, but I didn't mention vulcanism because Venus-type shield-type vulcanism apparently isn't sufficient to sustain a healthy Carbon Cycle without enough tectonic activity. Old cracks and plumes from the mantle only release gases, and what's needed is subduction zones to recycle carbon. Of course today, there's no precip or oceans or helpful life on Venus for a healthy Carbon Cycle.
I presume by green ideology you mean the idea that human actions have consequences. Fortunately as we know humankind is never naive and is totally invincible ... O_0
What they mean is that cooler weather will help balance out the sun getting hotter, which of course will eventually kill us with heat. that would be the advantage, got it
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Numerous posts on where is the credible proof to explain climate variation?
Well there is such proof but no one wants to listen. The results demonstrate an unassailable correlation with historic climate data and because the data can be calculated, the future climate patterns can also be calculated, a forecast for the next two decades is shown and we are in for a long cold spell in the Northern hemisphere.
Google Solarchords and see for yourself.
howardsway782 2 months ago
We're not scare mongering. This is really happening. Happening.
LeaningTowardsPisa 5 months ago
Mr. Al Gore we now understand your convenient lie and complot Maybe now with the help of Haarp (WMCND) you could warm up and microwave your home land.
PalmBeachSOS 1 year ago
Radical reduction of the global Human population ensures carbon emissions also get reduced.
Excising the UN's proposed "life-tax" part of its larger Global Governance Initiative, is a necessary monetary evil that's critical to the re-greening of Earth and the cessation of Climate Change now destroying our planet.
We applaud all those involved in the establishing and underwriting of the new Cap & Trade schema and salute key-individuals from the Private & Federal investment sectors for their help!
CorporateRule 1 year ago
Global warming myth created to drive up energy prices to pay for wars in IRAQ and Afghanistan . and the poor pay the rich
peterm3964 1 year ago
when was this aired?
pinkjedi707 1 year ago
‘Last month was the coldest December documented for the UK since nationwide records began 100 years ago, the Met Office has confirmed.
However, the first analysis released of global temperatures shows 2010 was one of the WARMIST years on record.
The UK's harsh weather was caused by ANOMALOUSLY high air pressure that blocked mild westerly winds and brought cold air south from the Arctic.’
w w w.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12119329
blackadderthe4 1 year ago
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Portillo85 1 year ago
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Is it really warming? Don't listen to the "experts". Go straight to the data itself. If you would like to explore the data underpinning the cooling trend for yourselves, I've made three short videos to guide you through:
1. CRU database watch?v=OS44qirIOcU
2. NASA database watch?v=8Q97zVngPGU
3. UAH satellite data watch?v=I3q3zs0EVDU
cristop5 1 year ago
Chuck Norris opened his fridge.
Johnongonteen 1 year ago
Good lord the global warming fanatics think we can't research this stuff on our own. They are hilarious.
Freenetnow 1 year ago
edible oil must be included in daily food intake just in case global cooling start.
TheAqruipnos 1 year ago
Joe is so honest and such a nice man. I really respect him and the good works he is doing in this world. Thank you Joe.
ItsRainmakingTime 1 year ago
No warmin al gore sucks
KornelN 1 year ago
He says it's arrogant to assume that mankind controls the climate of the UNIVERSE. Haha omg and we're supposed to believe these people. The Heartland Institute, once told us tobacco is harmless. Now they tell us CO2 is harmless. When you look at their funding, ExxonMobil. Yet I'm supposed to believe what they say is truth, while NASA, NOAA, USGS, and top universities are all in on a big conspiracy to hide 'cooling'. Lets all ignore that the sun was simply at a low period in its cycle.
fringelife 1 year ago
There is no Global Warming, step outside.
crazy7house 1 year ago 5
No WARS...what planet were you born on?
Blogengezer 1 year ago
Shaun White is looking forward to it..
Blogengezer 1 year ago
OR perhaps people should just limit themselves to two children (after all who needs more than two realy?)
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
OFC China and India won't be part of the cap'n trade ... they have scientists who know the AGW is shit and they are happy to see the west destroy it's self with carbon tax.
XMrAverageX 2 years ago 2
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Yep...that's why the former Soviet Union supported green movements in the late 70s and 80s.
vaughn8113 1 year ago
reason why Exxon Mobil invested billions into Natural Gas company. They know what is up. FUKING ELITES!!!!
soundzero 2 years ago
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Even if every bit of mud slung at these scientists were true, the body of scientific work supporting the theory of human-caused climate change—which spans hundreds of thousands of scientific papers written by tens of thousands of scientists in dozens of different scientific disciplines—is too vast to be budged by the flaws in the works of the three or four scientists being subject to the fiercest attacks.
acnicolet 2 years ago
Wait, why are there people on the news saying GW is not true? Here is a good vid:
youtube com/watch?v=Cl4Pz1mwBao&feature=related
MrTommYYZ 2 years ago
They are saying it because the satellite data shows the earth is cooling. Watch it again. Since last January many more data sets confirm this. We also now have the leaked data and emails from the University of East Anglia CRU that shows they were frantically trying to conceal this cooling. In fact the 'Hockey Stick' graph of Michael Mann was even a fraud. It might be more apt to ask why alarmists are still sticking to the warminst 'faith' despite clear evidence. That is not science.
guydecervens 2 years ago 2
Yes I know. Sarcasam does not translate well on youtube posts. I am saying, why is a major news outlet telling the truth? The media is the second hand in the GW caused by humans lie.
MrTommYYZ 2 years ago
Oh, sorry. It's hard to read between the lines when there are no lines. Happy New Year
guydecervens 2 years ago
oh my god they will now TAX us for not using more CO2 lol
bigbother1 2 years ago 5
really cold in UK for 3 summers now and heavy winter snow, global warming is a con!
chickenliam 2 years ago 9
You know, its hard to listen to Lehr and not get pissed off. BTW - he was arrested and convicted for committing fraud- he falsified billing records and stole several hundred grand from US EPA. He did a year in prison. No one in the field respects this guy. He will say anything to get on TV. He spends most of his time seeking out press. Those who don't know the field are bamboozled by his acting skills. There is no "WE" for jay - he works for no one. Unempolyable, he lives in a dump in Ohio.
hydrogeo56osu 2 years ago 3
I am an environmental geologist and do science for a living. First, Jay H. Lehr is a fraud. He has less credibility than Al Gore.
Secondly, the global climate system is VERY complicated. Simplistic explainations like "sunspots" , "A cool Summer" etc.. do not mean a damn thing. The climate system is only about 80% understood. We do not know all the system factors nor how they all interact .
All we can say is over time, CO2 and temp have climbed together - and dramatically.
hydrogeo56osu 2 years ago
So, as a "scientist", you obviously know that CO2 has very little to do with temperature increases AND you know that the two largest banks of CO2 and the atmosphere and we know little about the exchange rates between the two right? And you also know, because you are a "scientist" that the earth has actually started cooling again.....because geologists are also meteorologists and hell.....all oligists are scientists and are experts in everything
charlitunaman2002 2 years ago
why do you have scientist in quotes. Look co2 is a greenhouse gas. It traps heat. It is basic chemistry than can be proven in the lab. I do not understand your argument. Look if we switch to renewable energy we will not only be lowering c02 emission but also cleaning our air of potential toxins. A route to greener plant does not just mean lower co2 but also less mercury in our fish and lower levels of dioxin in breast milk.
nirusan1000 2 years ago
CO2 is a gas. The two largest banks of it are the ocean and the atmosphere and they transfer from year to year and we have no clue how they transfer but we do know people have nothing to do with it
charlitunaman2002 2 years ago 20
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By burning fossil fuels you are putting more co2 in to the atmosphere.
nirusan1000 2 years ago
By breathing you are putting more Co2 in the atmosphere.
ParasiteJR 2 years ago 12
@ParasiteJR hold your breath you're breathing my air
zizn8r 1 year ago
@ParasiteJR BE QUIET. They read this and will impose a breathing tax on us
sparwood8 1 year ago
@ParasiteJR And by growing plants and then eating them, or the animals that eat them, you are removing CO2 from the air and putting the carbon into your body. What's your point?
In the end it all balances out.
rugbyguy59 1 year ago
Al Gore's father was an employee of Occidental Petroleum, something he fails to mention in his movie: "An Inconvenient Truth". Al Gore senior made $500,000 a year working for an Oil Company. Al Gore had no problems with Carbon when he made money from it.
joeycusack80 2 years ago 5
"Al Gore had no problems with Carbon when he made money from it. "
The same for most americans.
They all love their SUV's to much to contemplate any kind of responsibility. After all they invaded a country to get more!!!
MaxSafeheaD 2 years ago
@MaxSafeheaD ,Americans did not invade Iraq, The American Government brought them in to that war. And as for Americans driving SUVS, I don't see what your point is?Should Americans ride around on mopeds instead? Al Gore rides around in A PRIVATE JET and has at least 3 mansions, all with hot tubs, extensive lighting etc. Americans were told to consume for years by Madison Avenue and other Government Lobbyists, now the Government wants to punish them for a dream that they were sold.
joeycusack80 1 year ago
"Americans did not invade Iraq,"
What?!!!
Americans bear full responsibility for the actions of their employees - president, bankers and soldiers.
The SUV point is simple - when it comes to oil America is a sociopathic glutton.
The reason is American culture is 100% commercial advertisement.
What Al-gore drives only proves my point.
You prove it again by implying only alternative to an SUV is a moped.
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
Al Gore is a prophet of doom for PROFIT... He's a nothing and a loser... He flies in private planes and is a huge consumer of our natural resources.
Judy2Day 1 year ago 2
@Judy2Day . The sad thing is, that people listen to AL Gore. He is a very dangerous man.
joeycusack80 1 year ago 2
Joey, Al Gore is a bottom feeder.... He would slit your throat for a dollar....
Judy2Day 1 year ago 2
A politician who is a hypocrite? That's surprising!!
=P
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
Please get educated
strawberrylaralara 2 years ago
@charlitunaman2002 And they would be in near equilibrium if not for the last century of human activity. Is this difficult to understand?
jerbiebarb 1 year ago
@jerbiebarb According to who? You? You are who? As I said before, science.....REAL science tells us that humans have nothing to do with the transfer patterns of CO2. The information is out there. Go check it out. Remember, at the first "Earthday" they were warning of the coming ice age. We've placed temperature monitors on airport tarmacs, next to out door furnaces, next to industrial ac evaporators etc. How accurate is that? We have thousands of scientists that beleive Global warming is bogus.
charlitunaman2002 1 year ago
@charlitunaman2002 Humans affect the climate more than volcanoes, doesn't this warrant your concern? There might be a little ice age within 20 years if the ocean are freshened at crucial locations. Weather events form at 15,000 ft, and sfc temp discontinuities have already been addressed by the data people anyway. I can help you understand this fast changing field, or ask a weather hobbyist you trust.
jerbiebarb 1 year ago
@jerbiebarb Um....still not getting it? The "science" behind this is flawed. Now let me set the record straight for a third time.......Humans do not effect the transfer of CO2 from the ocean to the atmosphere. That was my original and secondary statement. The science proves that. Now, scurry along and go disprove what thousands of scientists have proven. Stop reading internet rumors and go do some real research.
charlitunaman2002 1 year ago
@charlitunaman2002 Outgassing from the ocean to the atmosphere is natural.
jerbiebarb 1 year ago
@jerbiebarb Check out the big brain on jerbiebarb! Not only "natural", but uninhibited or promoted or effected by man.
charlitunaman2002 1 year ago
@charlitunaman2002 Is effected a word? My English is bad, but I think it's affected.
Big brains online don't try to determine intelligence levels by just a few posts. That immediately signals low intelligence. LoL Or maybe you're a teenager? In any case, where's the content? because you're not very clever at insults. Add some value to your posts.
jerbiebarb 1 year ago
@charlitunaman2002 All you are saying is nothing. My statement still stands. The research shows that humans have no "affect" (happy now) on the transfers of CO2. Your comments don't change this. Science has proven this. Sorry you are just now reading this and have to play "catch up". But yet again....no I'm not. Ignorance is your bliss and we can spend YOUR tax dollars on a mythical problem
charlitunaman2002 1 year ago
@charlitunaman2002 Having no 'effect' is correct usage.
I'm just a meteorologist, I don't know about tax policy, but we have to pay for our good life here.
Humans don't affect CO2 transfers between air and water. The physics of CO2 release and absorption has been scientifically described. I wish I knew what your point was, you might have a new angle and you might be right.
jerbiebarb 1 year ago
@jerbiebarb Oh, so you are just another run of the mill so called "weather men" that tell us that its going to be sunny or rainy.......then it doesn't happen. You are the meteorology equivalent to a chiropractor. No real science but a lot of guessing. Guessing on CO2 transfers.....guessing on weather, guessing on global warming....lots of guessing, No hard core answers.........SHOCKER! You should have been runner up with Al Gore!!!!! The real science......says both of you should go home
charlitunaman2002 1 year ago
@charlitunaman2002 Can you imagine what a weather forecaster does? We look at the runs and we draw upon our experience with the window. The idealized models of weather producing disturbances have been long since categorized. Our problem is to best fit the cyclogenesis and the frontolysis with what the numbers say. There's the speed of the long wave with the speed of the short wave and exactly where the vort maxes will be strong enough, but not too strong. Fascinating work every new day!
jerbiebarb 1 year ago
@jerbiebarb And still can't refute a single word in my original statement. All of that education and no place to go. Such a pity
charlitunaman2002 1 year ago
@charlitunaman2002 When the cores of Mars and Venus became less active, tectonics stopped for billions of years, flaring up only briefly 500 mya on Venus, but it was already too late. We somewhat understand how these planets' atmospheres changed permanently. Now humans are slowing down the Carbon Cycle on Earth by speeding up ocean outgassing and raising levels etc. These are the observations. Is this what you're referring to?
jerbiebarb 1 year ago
@jerbiebarb wow.....a 13 year old with web access
charlitunaman2002 1 year ago
@charlitunaman2002 technically you're half right, CO2 we don't control on a global basis, but the more prevalent and natural gas is H2O which is from the oceans, try and prevent H2O from entering the atmo and heating things, i dare you... seems ridiculous right? well that's why we went after C02, easier to tax, measurable, and people are stupid, Global temperature change is natural and not influenced by humans, i commend you for your intelligence
zizn8r 1 year ago
@charlitunaman2002 I believe you left out the biomass CO2 sink which is as large as the Ocean's. This makes the atmospheric CO2 sink extremely small in comparison. Ninety-six billion tons annually each from the ocean and about the same from the biomass. Only 6 billion tons annually from man made sources of which only half remains in the atmosphere. CO2 atmospheric turnover rate is approximately 5 years.
wayne487msc 1 year ago
@charlitunaman2002 Actually we know a fair bit about how and why the ocean and atmosphere exchange CO2. Yes people aren't involved. You seem to miss the important part. Of all the CO2 we're putting into the air half is absorbed by the ocean because the ocean absorbs more than it emits. If it wasn't, and soon it may not, it would be warming faster.
rugbyguy59 1 year ago
Well how come you never hear Al Gore or any other of the Global Warming proponents talking about toxic waste being dumped by the large corporations? How come Al Gore never speaks out against Oil Companies who illegally dump their waste and poison drinking water just like Texaco did in Ecuador? Al Gore and his "Global Warming " gang are a bunch of crooks that don't give a shit about the Planet. You must be fucking stupid trusting a bunch of politicians.
joeycusack80 2 years ago 4
1. Yes politicians are scum.
2. Where do you get your information on climate change - from climate science or from the medie that might just possibly be influenced by the most powerful industry on the planet?
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
The ocean and the atmosphere, sorry for the confusion
charlitunaman2002 2 years ago
Yes it is. Religious superstitious bullshit. They don't have the proof but they believe it because believing is socially acceptable.
teemuruskeepaa 2 years ago
Sunspot number: 0
Updated 01 Aug 2009
rdkt123 2 years ago
@rdkt123 Sunspots 0. Yep that happens about once every 16 years.
I'm sure these guys would deny the instrumental data. It just keeps getting warmer.
Global cooling, what a joke.
rugbyguy59 1 year ago
@rugbyguy59 Gore buys a 9 million dollar mansion on the beach when he says the sea levels are gonna rise, wake up global warming is fake, F A K E.
ozzyguy67 11 months ago
@ozzyguy67 And Anthony Watts owns an electric car. He must really believe AGW is T R U E.
I don't get my information from Al Gore. I go to the actual science and scientists. You should too.
By the way it's an ocean view property not an ocean front property. Buy the time sea level rises to where it is Gore will have been long dead.
rugbyguy59 11 months ago
Well...I live here in Mexicali Baja California Mexico City, the everage temperature in summer is 110 F, but we have a mysterious event this past June 2009, when in June 3 we stil have temperatures around the 90's, that is weird cause at that time we should have reached the 105 to 109 F degrees, since may, and about now July we should have reach the 120 + F as usual, thing that had have not happen, very mysterious and weird, probably we are cooling.....
beatryxa 2 years ago 2
Here is a something everyoe can agree on: Reduction in population = Less problems to fix!
ebaumann05 2 years ago
I know Dr. Jay H. Lehr personally. The man is a fraud. First of all, he has NOT worked in the field of climatology nor agriculture. In fact, all he has done is run an association for 20 years until he was arrested and sent to federal prison for stealing money from US EPA.
Lehr has about as much expertise in Climatology as Al Gore - both are just ego freaks who read other peoples work and then twist it into something that will get them on TV. No one respects Lehr.
hydrogeo56osu 2 years ago
With the axing of the CNN Science News team, most science stories at CNN are now being given to general assignment reporters who don't necessarily have the background to know when they are being taken for a ride.
Vierotchka 2 years ago 3
On the Lou Dobbs show (an evening news program on cable for those of you not in the US), the last few weeks have brought a series of embarrassing non-stories on 'global cooling' based it seems on a few cold snaps this winter, the fact that we are at a solar minimum and a regurgitation of 1970s vintage interpretations of Milankovitch theory (via Pravda of all places!).
Vierotchka 2 years ago
Combine that with a few hysterical (in both senses) non-scientists as talking heads and you end up with a repeat of the nonsensical 'Cooling world' media stories that were misleading in the 1970s and are just as misleading now.
Vierotchka 2 years ago
Vierotchka: I will simply say this, there are more and more scientists coming out and saying this same stuff. The fact is that the earth has been cooling for ten years now. and its easy to say anyone going against global warming is driven by the oil companies, but yet what about all the money these scientists get from the UN and other governmental bodies to "prove" global warming. Are they not driven by greed? to politicians all it has ever been about is money. the sap and trade system proves it
metallifreak100 2 years ago
cap and trade system*
metallifreak100 2 years ago
That may be so, but not one of these scientists are remotely connected to climatology or paleo-climatology and therefore not at all qualified. The fact is that earth has NOT been cooling for ten years now. Indeed, Sweden, Norway and Finland have, during the past ten years, had temperatures ABOVE freezing in the middle of winter, something that has never ever happened before.
Galadriel52 2 years ago
Furthermore, the United Nations does NOT pay scientists to prove global warming. You seem to know very little, if anything at all, about the United Nations or how it works.
Galadriel52 2 years ago 2
Galadriel52:
The IPCC, which comes directly from the UN does not wish to fund projects that could discredit man made Global warming, over 600 scientist off the panel dont believe the theory so there funding through the panel was cut, only those that push the theory are supported by the UN.. they only do as they wish and will mislead us from reality to try to accomplish there original goals, a one world order
metallifreak100 2 years ago
a lot of the scientists are climatologists that are coming out against man made global warming.. im from the midwestern united states and we had our 10th coldest december, 4th coldest january, and 15th coldest february on record all in the same winter, we didnt see spring time till atleast May when mid-march is the norm.. but that is all pointless because its very short term as is what you said.. the overall averages show a slight drop in global temperatures since 1998
metallifreak100 2 years ago
Why did Lou Dobbs chose to book a convicted felon from a phony baloney think tank, that's in pay of the coal lobby ?
Don't trot out Jay Lehr - Convicted Felon / "Climate Expert", and have him claim it's the sun. The sun is not putting out more energy, and the earth is not cooling. If this is the case please present the peer reviewed studies, to support those two central claims of Mr. Lehr.
Vierotchka 2 years ago
It is Big Oil and Big Coal which promote the Global Cooling hoax, and pay shills like this phony scientists to push their lies.
Vierotchka 2 years ago
Phony science, at best. The five hottest years on record occurred during the past ten years - NASA.
Here in Switzerland, we are currently having an unprecedented heat-wave - over 30° centigrade, the kind of temperatures we usually get during Dog Days in July/August.
Vierotchka 2 years ago
It has got cooler the past 2 years, 2008 was pretty cold, 2009 is cooler to me... and here in upstate NY our winter had record snow and we had a few record lows, one was -32.
And hate to bust some ppl's bubble but the 1930's was much more warmer than the past warming 1998-2007, that was nothing.
I think we are cooling, It's still cool here and Spring is in no hurry.
Global Warming is a hoax! We go from one extreme to the other.
crazy7house 2 years ago
that comment is exactly what's wrong with people.. that's not how climatology works man! 2 years is only one blip of proxy data on a larger climatological model. the earth is billions of years old and 2 years is proof of absolutely nothing. we have been in this interglacial for 10 thousand years now. you are confusing climate with weather. not the same. that said, i don't believe in anthropogenic climate change for rational reasons. but the earth has been steadily warming since around the 70s.
devious222 2 years ago 3
Well I hardly call from the 1970's to the first decade of the 2000's a big success, anyway in the 70's Global Cooling was in the media, now the other way around, I didn't believe in GC and I don't believe in GW, that's the way it works... many Scientists do not believe in GW, many do... depends if it's a Political Scxientist or a Real Scientist. Another thing from the 70's to now from ten thousand years, as you say... well, that's not enough to get an accurate trend either.
crazy7house 2 years ago
yes i know. that's the point i was trying to make but i didn't have enough characters or whatever left to write it out and didn't want to spam post a whole bunch.
devious222 2 years ago
Real scientists don't believe in Global Warming, they know that it is a fact and that it doesn't take a leap of faith to ascertain it.
Vierotchka 2 years ago
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Global Warming is a HOAX.
crazy7house 2 years ago
*Real scientists don't believe in Global Warming, they know that it is a fact*
No, a real Scientist does not just "know" something
They create the proper tests, re test, and check for re-testability to reach a conclusion
This is why Nasa attempted to send a Carbon detector to space (rocket accident) and Japan succesfully did...to Test if Co2 amount is as 1) Hgh as said and 2) Is emmited from Humans in as much quantiies as estimates.
Likewise we are sending up acturate thermal scannerssoon
TheRealArchAngel 2 years ago
humans only emit 6% of all the CO2 emitted every year, volcanic activity is responsible for the bulk of CO2 emissions.. but besides that, CO2 is only really a greenhouse gas in higher quantities, like 0.1% or more.. why does CO2 continue to rise, yet temperatures continue to drop? in 1998 the earth was at 365 ppm and 2008 383 ppm, yet in that time period temps have dropped 0.2 degrees, CO2 doesnt drive our climate it gives the planet life! The sun drives our climate.
metallifreak100 2 years ago
It is not a question of quantity, it is a question of effect. Furthermore, through its meat-eating habits and the breeding of billions of cattle, humanity has added enormously to the methane content of the atmosphere - methane is a much more powerful greenhouse-effect gas than is CO2.
Galadriel52 2 years ago 2
although 30% of all methane in the atmosphere is human caused it represents less then 0.1% of all greenhouse gases. Its levels are not high enough to dramatically influence our climate. Lets all not forget that water vapor is the main greenhouse gas and can effect the climate, its over 95% of all greenhouse gases. The arrogance mankind has is amazing to actually believe our effects can control the climate.
metallifreak100 2 years ago
on top of that here is a number that really makes us feel insignificant.. In one tenth of a second the sun generates more energy then mankind has in its entire existence.. the sun is what drives our climate.. "wel dee dee dee duh! that big old yella thing in the sky really is sumthin, who'd a thunk it!" everytime someone someone doesnt include the sun in debating climate change i just wanna say what i quoted, mainly cause its true
metallifreak100 2 years ago
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Galadrie
You are full of shit.
apollo1268 2 years ago
you are a dumbass
bang383 2 years ago
"*Real scientists don't believe in Global Warming, they know that it is a fact*
No, a real Scientist does not just "know" something
They create the proper tests, re test, and check for re-testability to reach a conclusion"
Which is EXACTLY what qualified scientists have done, and reached the conclusion of the reality of global warming.
Galadriel52 2 years ago 5
**Which is EXACTLY what qualified scientists have done, and reached the conclusion of the reality of global warming**
No, they have actually Reached the conclusion that the Hypothoses is worth looking into thus the Launching of various satalittes Such as the JAXA(Japan's NASA) Carbon Detecting Orbiter last year to test if there is as much Co2 as claimed worldwide and with it's sister satalites checking tempature/climate differences see if the Observable data matches AGW Theory Models/Sims
TheRealArchAngel 2 years ago
**Which is EXACTLY what qualified scientists have done, and reached the conclusion of the reality of global warming**
No,no. All your Archair "Climate Experts" in their University run weather stations and cushy teaching jobs at the University is run simulations on limited data and corrolation
The REAL Scientist are now going to test if the real world data matches the simulations and models with the new satellites that can actualy test if the corrolation holds up
TheRealArchAngel 2 years ago 2
"70's Global Cooling was in the media"
try to draw the distinction between what's in the media (especially the shit that passes for media in America) and actual scientific consensus.
The 70's story was printed in Time magazine and was based on one nutty professor.
The current story is backed up by countless observations and independent scientific papers from all corners of the planet.
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
Our Sun is the alpha and omega when it comes to temperatures on this world. Carbondioxide is not a greenhouse gas, just study the planet Mars atmosphere and you will see! Even though our world is getting colder and colder with our Sun´s very low activity, the controlled Media is lying to us like a snake that the World is "getting warmer". This bloody lie about a "man-made global warming" is just a tool to degenerate the World into a new "convinient" medieval age with only one king.
Rainbowsilver777 2 years ago 2
greyflcn 2 years ago
What complete nonsense - where on earth did you dig out such crap?
Galadriel52 2 years ago
I have a feeling someone believes in this NWO conspiracy bullshit. At the same time completely blind to the fact that the oil industry already practically rules!
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
@MaxSafeheaD . Well how come Al Gore never spoke out against any Oil Company? Could it be that his father worked for one? Could it be that EXXON nad other companies gives millions in donations to Both Democrats and Republicans?. By the way, I think its hilarious that you, A British man is blaming Americans for Iraq!Your country did a pretty good job of invading other countires, robbing their wealth and slaughtering their natives throughout history.
joeycusack80 1 year ago
Well at least we agree oil companies have enough power to dominate the media, corroupt any politician and still make a fortune.
I'm not defending anything that the UK has done in the past, I'm disgusted with the place. It's only because my friends and family are here that I've not emigrated.
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
I agree, there's absolutely no way they want a global government, because that would largely end war.
The NWO, is bullshit.
Time to pierce the corporate veil.
They'd also like you to believe that the oil is running out. lol. (They control the data.)
But, our true leaders, heroes and patriots are too busy fighting the NWO scam, to do anything useful.
YouTube outlaws just preach to the choir.
950horsepower 1 year ago
This guys an idiot, the lack in sunspots is due to the solar minimum. Which comes every 22 years. Solar maximum and solar minimum rotate every 11 years.
JacdCat 2 years ago
same condition in Indonesia have cool temperatur to
superembe 2 years ago
Al Gore is a tool but there's absolutely nothing wrong with cleaning up the air for our heaths sake. I'm sure it's pretty bad on our bodies breathing all those contaminates and pollutants. It was 74 degrees here in Texas today and it's February
exacerbatedtaboo 3 years ago
exacerbatedtaboo - the only thing we need to do to clean up our air for our healths' sake is to get them to stop the chemtrail spraying. Breathing all the pollutants and contaminants they spray on us is very bad for our bodies.
GeorgeDorn00023 2 years ago
ROFL @ chemtrail spraying.
Honestly some people will believe anything.
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
Al Gore is a complete wxxker
deelean 3 years ago
[cost 3:18] of living. Verbal typo - a Tongo!
FreedomHooter 3 years ago
Gobal warming is another excuse for Democrats to steal taxpayers money. fuck that
weseyedwalk 3 years ago 6
yea, I'd rather give my money to the totally benign, and in no way linked to any media outlet or lobby group, oil industry.
After all, Esso is really a giant baby rabbit.
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
@MaxSafeheaD. The typical response I get from people when I speak out against Al Gore is that I am a NeoCon-Bush Lover. I have zero respect for both parties, but as it happens I find Al gore more offensive. After all he makes "scientific Movies" and pretends he's a green god. I am not going to waste anymore time arguing with you, winning an argument with you would be like winning the Special Olympics.
joeycusack80 1 year ago
"I have zero respect for both parties"
Same
What are you talking about winning an argument for? It seems to me like you've just mistaken me for someone who cares what Gore says. I have no interest in whether Gore says the sky is blue, I've been following the climate change debate for over a decade
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
5 Yeah, I hope it's wrong too.
When I was first introduced to the global warming idea, it was from a pair of professors at a private school I attended back in 1967.
They were not trying to fool anybody, they were just adding up simple logic, and comparing it to the facts of the day.
Even in those technological dark ages, one of the predictable effects of our heating the atmosphere, is the heat is expected to cause the pendulum to swing the other way for a short time.
Enjoy it while it lasts.
950horsepower 3 years ago
somehow you got marked down to -5 for that statement, I have a small incling why - US voters =/
I can remember back in the 80's David Attenborough talking about global warming and learning about it in school. It's amasing to see the level of ignorance still prevelant in society but then again half of them don't even understand evolution let alone climate science.
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
Thank you. Yeah, the old school news conglomerates have concerted with the movies, so its all just movies now.
They tell you that you like something, or not like it, even before you know what it is.
People are inclined to side with whomever gives them a handout or a paycheck.
Sad state of affairs.
950horsepower 1 year ago
@MaxSafeheaD
Did you learn any physics in the 80s? What's your analysis of the impact of human activity? LoL
jerbiebarb 1 year ago
@jerbiebarb
what?
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
@MaxSafeheaD Our active core is the reason our planet hasn't overheated like Venus, but we're currently overwhelming this balance. We shouldn't argue with climate experts if we don't know the basics.
jerbiebarb 1 year ago
@jerbiebarb
N.B. Venus is much more volcanically active than Earth.
There's a good series on the solar systen including Venus here:
/watch?v=ta0_7g8_fB8
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
@MaxSafeheaD The link didn't work, but I didn't mention vulcanism because Venus-type shield-type vulcanism apparently isn't sufficient to sustain a healthy Carbon Cycle without enough tectonic activity. Old cracks and plumes from the mantle only release gases, and what's needed is subduction zones to recycle carbon. Of course today, there's no precip or oceans or helpful life on Venus for a healthy Carbon Cycle.
jerbiebarb 1 year ago
@jerbiebarb
That makes sense.
(enter the link (/watch?v=ta0_7g8_fB8) after youtube(dot)com - it dose work.
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
@MaxSafeheaD I get;
We're sorry, the page you requested cannot be found.
jerbiebarb 1 year ago
@jerbiebarb
Damn =/
try searching for:
" WotSS: OooC 1/6"
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
thanks
nukiwimet 3 years ago
Global warming enthusiasts disgust me. Theyre blinded by a new GREEN ideology.
miniccc 3 years ago 5
Cretin
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
@miniccc
I presume by green ideology you mean the idea that human actions have consequences. Fortunately as we know humankind is never naive and is totally invincible ... O_0
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
Its just a joke, people wake up and start shouting.
5*****
exposethenwo2012 3 years ago 3
They poison and tax our food.
They poison and tax our water.
They poison our air.
Strange how people are finally starting to wake up when they want to tax us for exhaling.
AntiShocker 3 years ago 8
this is just too funny. but not to worry, They will find a way to make this work to their advantage.
RestrainedNoMore 3 years ago 4
What they mean is that cooler weather will help balance out the sun getting hotter, which of course will eventually kill us with heat. that would be the advantage, got it
weseyedwalk 3 years ago
Al gore? Al gore? where are you?
RestrainedNoMore 3 years ago
Hang Up AlGore *****
damienz007 3 years ago 5
That Al Gore talks utter crap! Good vid *****
deelean 3 years ago 6
hey - the temperature of the earth follows the temperature of the sun (sun spots)
...well there's a surprise :-)
WTU208 3 years ago 9
Sunspot number: 0
Updated 01 Aug 2009
rdkt123 2 years ago