I watched this clip with the sound off just to see why anyone would give Hagler either of these rounds. Can't see why anyone would give Marv 4, 5 you can make a case, but just judging by whose head is getting snapped back, Ray won both rounds.
For some of you clowns to criticize world class athletes is comical at best!! As if you could do better!! You couldn't whoop a bad ass kid with a leather strap!! Let alone, Ray or Hagler or any other world class boxer. If you could, we would be sitting here criticizing you!!
Smart Boxing....Hagler never exhibited the ability to cut the ring off with a jab and a left behind it or a right depending upon what stance he was in.....Leonard did what Hagler and Steele allowed....Smart Boxing
@InternationalBoy using that style in todays boxing is called coward style! ray took stickin n moving toanother level,the guy literally sprtinted,he makes floyd,khan,direll look like brawlers lol
@InternationalBoy thats cos they werent expectin that sort of strategy..do u think theyl cope with todays speedy fighters like khan,pac n floyd..obviously not saying khan wud beat them but just making a point about how bad khan can make them look,il even favour floyd to beat leanord with his eyes close and khan to win every round until leanard can land something ig..he's not fast or anything..its just infront of hagler,hearns n duran he looked ok speedwise..not oo skillfull either but a warrior
@Ronz93 floyd mayweather is garbage. He wouldnt beat Leonard,Hearns Duran or Hagler. lol Hes too scared to fight pacman. and lol@Amir Kahn making anybody look bad. He got knocked out by a Tamato can named Presscott. you better think of some better fighters than that if you are going to compare.
@InternationalBoy ur not getting what am saying,these guys were devastating punchers with great chins but had standard skillset..leanard was a basic boxer with running abilities..he is no way as fast as todays boxers,paulie is quicker than ray so idnt even wanna mention khan,leanrd wont win a single round with khan until he lands something big!
@InternationalBoy you don't sound too intelligent with your post. Floyd is far from garbage, and he would beat Duran 9 times out of 10. Hagler is too big for him, Hearns isn't a good match up and a fight with Leonard would be a real good one. Afraid of PAcman? the same guy who refuses to take a steroid test and is fighting Floyd's leftovers? Oh, and he wants Shane to take a test even though Shane never tested positive and PAcquiao still won't take any tests.
@kjackson9000 nah you obviously dont know Duran passed No Mas, a Prime Duran would crush Floyd. At Durans Peak he beat a prime Sugar Ray Leonard= Skills. That man was fearless ducked nobody and fought everybody. The Fab 4 is a miss match for floyd or Pacman. T
@InternationalBoy no trust me, i know of the Panamanian Great Roberto Duran, i am a fan of 'hands of stone'. I actually can't stand Leonard, but the only reason Duran even beat Leonard was because Leonard fought Duran's style of fight. Also, Duran did fight a lot of bums to pad his record and lost to guys he had no business losing to and you know that if you follow Duran. Naturally the fab 4 is a mismatch for Pac and Floyd because with the exception of Duran, all of them are naturally bigger
@InternationalBoy a prime Duran is closer to size than a prime Floyd, who's prime weight imo is 135-140.. FLoyd would beat Duran rather easily. His speed, surprising power, defense, intelligence, overall skill would be too much for Duran. Ring Intelligence, defensively, and skill wise Floyd is on par with any fighter in history. Im not saying he's better than everyone, im just say his unique skill set is on league with the greats. Pacquiao is exciting, but lacks boxing skills to be honest
I'm tired of mental midgets who give no credit to Ray for fighting such an incredible fight. SRL would have been a moron if he stood there toe to toe with Hagler and maybe now in his early 50s he wouldn't be so sharp if he did that. There are too many brain dead fighters out there who did not fight smart.. Great job Ray Leonard!
Hagler spent his entire career trying to lure smaller men into the ring to fight him and when the last of the small men got into the ring he got owned in a fight that will forever haunt his legacy.
If he had gotten beat by Hearns then it still would have been an embarrassment but atleast Hearns was active and close to his prime,Leonard was a good five years past his prime with only one fight in five years.
the Leonard of 87 would never have beaten the monzons and hopkins but he beat hagler
Both these fighter looked old and spent in the 6th except that Hagler looked 60 and Leonard looked 50!LOL Gave Leonard the 6th based on cleaner landed punches... Hagler simply couldn't catch Ray for the most part! Gave the 7th to Hagler based on power puches, pressure, and more activity- that was one great round! Got it 5-2 for Leonard after the 7th!
Wow you are a homo? Why the fuck are you talking about candy in someones ass that's pretty disgusting you dirty bitch. Your dad may have thought you that homo-sex shit but mine sure didn't.
after 5, I had it 3-2 Leonard. I thought rounds 1, 2, 4 were good for Leonard, 5 was definitely Hagler and 3 was very close, I gave it to Hagler, but couldve gone either way.
Yeah, but it would NOT be the first time a boxer vs a slugger was awarded ring generalship WHEN he is moving, side to side, backing up and "punching" with combinations that score points. Ali was the master of this method of fighting. Ray did this with Hagler. Hagler simply didn't connect with Ray enough to give him the ring generalship uncontested. In my opinion...
first thing is the clean shots.if judges have it even they include in ring generalship and/or effective aggressiveness.both equal in weight.if the judges still see equal performance the last thing to decide upon who gets the ten points is the defence.they won the ten points not because of ring generalship and/or effective aggressiveness but on the clean shots they made which is the first and top most thing to consider.i think that hagler did connect cleanly as much as ray.
I think Hagler was the Boss in this fight but Ray was King. The judges gave Ray the nod so the point is mute as it was a close enough fight to go either way. Hence, the split decision.
4-3 after seven for Hagler....and who know Hagler takes the second half of the fight....How can anyone say Ray won the fight...He could have been deducted many times but Steele is crooked...Holding, HOlding and hitting...low blows...Hitting after the bell....u name it
4-3 watch the fight man. rays winning the beginning rounds with ease. hes moving and out punching hagler. watch it again stop being bias! hagler comes out strong the later rounds
Rnd 6-7 both for hagler No Question...moving foward missing a lot but still landing stiff punches and Rnd ^ early a lot of hard body shots....Ray landed one flurry each round and thats it
look point blank... hagler was the agressor and was landing body shots. leonard did not want to trade and was trying to impress the judges with his faggot as ali impressions and flurries
how is round five a draw? no one else scored it even. I dont even think JO JO would do that.
as for rounds 1-4 u cant honestly believe ray took all four. round one was scored even round two to leonard round 3 even round 4 leonard. round 5 hagler round 6 to ray round 7 even rounds 8, 9, 10, 11 all to Hagler and ray wins the last but loses the fight. there's no other way to look at it. ray did not deserve to win this fight. Hagler stuck tho. i can see why it was his last fight
So thru 7 rounds I got ray up 5-2. Ray - 1-4, 6, Hag 5, 7. Hag destroyed Ray in 5, Ray destroyed Hag in 6. 7 was close, Hag was strong the 1st half, Ray was strong second half... still gave it to hag.
how can us ay hagler lost round six....did u not see the first minute with the body blows.....Hagler missed a lot and looked bad a lot bu Ray did nothing and Hagler kept throwing
bullshit. Leonard didnt win shit easily. There is a difference between winning a fight and being given a fight. Hagler landed way more of the solid punches.
hagler tho totally shot, actually more than held his own. I was surprised with his lack of sped and seeing Ray's sharpness. Ray actually only held even with Hagler in rounds 1,3 becuz of marvin's lack of assertiveness. I didnt actually give Marvin a round tho until round 5 and not again until round 8 but he swept the next four rounds. Hagler shaded this fight but it wasnt the real Hagler nor was this for the undisputed crown as in the past. WBC portion only
I had to call round 6 even, and hagler easily took round 7.
my score reads 68-66 Leonard after 7.
1EPowerUp 5 months ago
I watched this clip with the sound off just to see why anyone would give Hagler either of these rounds. Can't see why anyone would give Marv 4, 5 you can make a case, but just judging by whose head is getting snapped back, Ray won both rounds.
kingq01 6 months ago
For some of you clowns to criticize world class athletes is comical at best!! As if you could do better!! You couldn't whoop a bad ass kid with a leather strap!! Let alone, Ray or Hagler or any other world class boxer. If you could, we would be sitting here criticizing you!!
cooolairrr 11 months ago
Sublime Leonard!
suigeppe 1 year ago
Smart Boxing....Hagler never exhibited the ability to cut the ring off with a jab and a left behind it or a right depending upon what stance he was in.....Leonard did what Hagler and Steele allowed....Smart Boxing
dejay1507 1 year ago
round 6 leonard round 7evan leonard now 3 rounds ahead
fandingo69 1 year ago
1 Leonard
2 Level
3 Leonard
4 Hagler (Don't be fooled)
5 Hagler
6 Level
7 Hagler
Furiouswindbottom 1 year ago
i have it hagler 3 leaonard 2 through 5
gig3gig3 1 year ago
Hagler got styled on in round 6. Leonard showed him that Olympic leonard foot work and shitted all over haglers punches.
InternationalBoy 1 year ago
@InternationalBoy using that style in todays boxing is called coward style! ray took stickin n moving toanother level,the guy literally sprtinted,he makes floyd,khan,direll look like brawlers lol
Ronz93 1 year ago
@Ronz93 This style made Hagler quit the sport he loved. SRL>Hagler and all current middle and welters.
InternationalBoy 1 year ago
@InternationalBoy thats cos they werent expectin that sort of strategy..do u think theyl cope with todays speedy fighters like khan,pac n floyd..obviously not saying khan wud beat them but just making a point about how bad khan can make them look,il even favour floyd to beat leanord with his eyes close and khan to win every round until leanard can land something ig..he's not fast or anything..its just infront of hagler,hearns n duran he looked ok speedwise..not oo skillfull either but a warrior
Ronz93 1 year ago
@Ronz93 floyd mayweather is garbage. He wouldnt beat Leonard,Hearns Duran or Hagler. lol Hes too scared to fight pacman. and lol@Amir Kahn making anybody look bad. He got knocked out by a Tamato can named Presscott. you better think of some better fighters than that if you are going to compare.
InternationalBoy 1 year ago
@InternationalBoy ur not getting what am saying,these guys were devastating punchers with great chins but had standard skillset..leanard was a basic boxer with running abilities..he is no way as fast as todays boxers,paulie is quicker than ray so idnt even wanna mention khan,leanrd wont win a single round with khan until he lands something big!
Ronz93 1 year ago
@Ronz93 lol@"Leonard is a basic boxer with running abilities" Instead of watching boxing you should go into comedy.
InternationalBoy 1 year ago
@InternationalBoy you don't sound too intelligent with your post. Floyd is far from garbage, and he would beat Duran 9 times out of 10. Hagler is too big for him, Hearns isn't a good match up and a fight with Leonard would be a real good one. Afraid of PAcman? the same guy who refuses to take a steroid test and is fighting Floyd's leftovers? Oh, and he wants Shane to take a test even though Shane never tested positive and PAcquiao still won't take any tests.
kjackson9000 1 year ago
@kjackson9000 nah you obviously dont know Duran passed No Mas, a Prime Duran would crush Floyd. At Durans Peak he beat a prime Sugar Ray Leonard= Skills. That man was fearless ducked nobody and fought everybody. The Fab 4 is a miss match for floyd or Pacman. T
InternationalBoy 1 year ago
@InternationalBoy no trust me, i know of the Panamanian Great Roberto Duran, i am a fan of 'hands of stone'. I actually can't stand Leonard, but the only reason Duran even beat Leonard was because Leonard fought Duran's style of fight. Also, Duran did fight a lot of bums to pad his record and lost to guys he had no business losing to and you know that if you follow Duran. Naturally the fab 4 is a mismatch for Pac and Floyd because with the exception of Duran, all of them are naturally bigger
kjackson9000 1 year ago
@InternationalBoy a prime Duran is closer to size than a prime Floyd, who's prime weight imo is 135-140.. FLoyd would beat Duran rather easily. His speed, surprising power, defense, intelligence, overall skill would be too much for Duran. Ring Intelligence, defensively, and skill wise Floyd is on par with any fighter in history. Im not saying he's better than everyone, im just say his unique skill set is on league with the greats. Pacquiao is exciting, but lacks boxing skills to be honest
kjackson9000 1 year ago
It was a crime against boxing that Leonard didnt give him a rematch.
BumDog007 1 year ago
I'm tired of mental midgets who give no credit to Ray for fighting such an incredible fight. SRL would have been a moron if he stood there toe to toe with Hagler and maybe now in his early 50s he wouldn't be so sharp if he did that. There are too many brain dead fighters out there who did not fight smart.. Great job Ray Leonard!
shire2005 1 year ago
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Hagler won
Leonard deceived the announcers and
judges with his theatrics.
You need boxers to announce and judge the fights. They know who's taking the real punishment.
Haglers style: The slower harder puncher
had to pressure leonard, take a few flurries to land that harder solid punch and and have Leonard back pedal and that is exactly what he did.
It was judged by dancing with the stars.
JohnPaul7771 2 years ago
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cpdusmcdst9 2 years ago
dont call him pimp you 10 year old tool.
HipHopTerminator 2 years ago
STFU
seansosa 2 years ago
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Hagler spent his entire career trying to lure smaller men into the ring to fight him and when the last of the small men got into the ring he got owned in a fight that will forever haunt his legacy.
If he had gotten beat by Hearns then it still would have been an embarrassment but atleast Hearns was active and close to his prime,Leonard was a good five years past his prime with only one fight in five years.
the Leonard of 87 would never have beaten the monzons and hopkins but he beat hagler
syrandon 2 years ago
Both these fighter looked old and spent in the 6th except that Hagler looked 60 and Leonard looked 50!LOL Gave Leonard the 6th based on cleaner landed punches... Hagler simply couldn't catch Ray for the most part! Gave the 7th to Hagler based on power puches, pressure, and more activity- that was one great round! Got it 5-2 for Leonard after the 7th!
D3TOX3R 2 years ago
I saw Leonard holds, runs, low blow... Is he really a legend?
unadzki68 2 years ago
you sound fucking stupid
seansosa 2 years ago
Yes I sound very stupid and you are the one spelling like a monkey.
HipHopTerminator 2 years ago
what did i spell wrong? i said STFU..INTERNET TALK FOR SHUT THE FUCK UP..SO DO IT...JUICY FRUIT SKITTLES IN THE BOOTY ASS FAGGOT!
seansosa 2 years ago
Wow you are a homo? Why the fuck are you talking about candy in someones ass that's pretty disgusting you dirty bitch. Your dad may have thought you that homo-sex shit but mine sure didn't.
HipHopTerminator 2 years ago
dude you know you dont know your daddy!..this is my last comment to you! suck it easy!
seansosa 2 years ago
3 and 6 could be swing rounds in the fight... I could see a judge having it between 3-3 and 5-1 for Ray
TOROBUITRE808 2 years ago
after 5, I had it 3-2 Leonard. I thought rounds 1, 2, 4 were good for Leonard, 5 was definitely Hagler and 3 was very close, I gave it to Hagler, but couldve gone either way.
good fight so far...
TOROBUITRE808 2 years ago
4-2-1 leonard got round 3 being a draw
theman1819 2 years ago
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Hagler was supposed to stop the washed up,inactive,one eyed,blown up welterweight Ray Leonard
Hagler promised a knockout and the vast majority of the public and media expected nothing less
A real great middleweight would have stopped this Ray Leonard and yet Hagler failed to do so,Losing a close decision in the process
Hagler is an overrated fraud
ricflarefucknsucks 2 years ago
Hagler in questo incontro non è stato se stesso!!!
MrBlasiluc 2 years ago
there's an art in boxing backing up and scoring when you need to or should. Why would the smaller man fight any other way?
goofydog2 2 years ago
backing up would definitely lose your chance of having a score for ring generalship and/or effective aggressiveness.the ten point system...
MrLouieG 2 years ago
Yeah, but it would NOT be the first time a boxer vs a slugger was awarded ring generalship WHEN he is moving, side to side, backing up and "punching" with combinations that score points. Ali was the master of this method of fighting. Ray did this with Hagler. Hagler simply didn't connect with Ray enough to give him the ring generalship uncontested. In my opinion...
goofydog2 2 years ago
first thing is the clean shots.if judges have it even they include in ring generalship and/or effective aggressiveness.both equal in weight.if the judges still see equal performance the last thing to decide upon who gets the ten points is the defence.they won the ten points not because of ring generalship and/or effective aggressiveness but on the clean shots they made which is the first and top most thing to consider.i think that hagler did connect cleanly as much as ray.
MrLouieG 2 years ago
I think Hagler was the Boss in this fight but Ray was King. The judges gave Ray the nod so the point is mute as it was a close enough fight to go either way. Hence, the split decision.
goofydog2 2 years ago
My god could hagler miss thats y he lost the fight way to damn slow. And against an out boxer too thats bad
ichirima 2 years ago
I hate fighters that just back off. Leonard, Maywether..zzzzzzz
ManlnCognito 2 years ago
i prefer to watch hagler, i like the way he fights better but sugar ray is just on a whole nother level!
thotkrime 2 years ago
hagler wins 7 easy 5-2 srl
nweinkauf 2 years ago
leonard landed more punches in the sixth close round but i got 5-1 leonard.
nweinkauf 2 years ago
i have it 3rds for hagler, 3rds for leonard, and 1 even.
metalaholla 2 years ago
what a fight. I doubt we'll ever see this kind of talent in the squared circle again.
huthut91 2 years ago
4-3 after seven for Hagler....and who know Hagler takes the second half of the fight....How can anyone say Ray won the fight...He could have been deducted many times but Steele is crooked...Holding, HOlding and hitting...low blows...Hitting after the bell....u name it
KHLB516 2 years ago
4-3 watch the fight man. rays winning the beginning rounds with ease. hes moving and out punching hagler. watch it again stop being bias! hagler comes out strong the later rounds
hboppv9 2 years ago
Rnd 6-7 both for hagler No Question...moving foward missing a lot but still landing stiff punches and Rnd ^ early a lot of hard body shots....Ray landed one flurry each round and thats it
KHLB516 2 years ago
I meant to say Hagler stunk as in he was washed up kind of stunk. the kind that would bring ray out of retirement-that kind of stunk
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
I have leaonrd winning this round 5-1 leonard at the halfway point.
shire2005 2 years ago
marvin got str8 up embarassed in rd 6
flimflamworkjerk 2 years ago
look point blank... hagler was the agressor and was landing body shots. leonard did not want to trade and was trying to impress the judges with his faggot as ali impressions and flurries
MrMorningside125 2 years ago
First four rounds I got a Leonard sweep! The fifth I had draw and the sixth I gave to Leonard but Leonard is slowing down...
D3TOX3R 2 years ago
how is round five a draw? no one else scored it even. I dont even think JO JO would do that.
as for rounds 1-4 u cant honestly believe ray took all four. round one was scored even round two to leonard round 3 even round 4 leonard. round 5 hagler round 6 to ray round 7 even rounds 8, 9, 10, 11 all to Hagler and ray wins the last but loses the fight. there's no other way to look at it. ray did not deserve to win this fight. Hagler stuck tho. i can see why it was his last fight
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
So thru 7 rounds I got ray up 5-2. Ray - 1-4, 6, Hag 5, 7. Hag destroyed Ray in 5, Ray destroyed Hag in 6. 7 was close, Hag was strong the 1st half, Ray was strong second half... still gave it to hag.
JuicersSuck 2 years ago
how can us ay hagler lost round six....did u not see the first minute with the body blows.....Hagler missed a lot and looked bad a lot bu Ray did nothing and Hagler kept throwing
KHLB516 2 years ago
Hagler won. He was the aggressor and took the fight to Leonard. Leonard had some nice flurries, but not enough to win the fight.
easyscore 2 years ago
Hagler won this fight, At the same time though not one of his best performances.
easyscore 2 years ago
bullshit. Leonard didnt win shit easily. There is a difference between winning a fight and being given a fight. Hagler landed way more of the solid punches.
steelerman1978 2 years ago
I totally agree Steelerman.
hagler tho totally shot, actually more than held his own. I was surprised with his lack of sped and seeing Ray's sharpness. Ray actually only held even with Hagler in rounds 1,3 becuz of marvin's lack of assertiveness. I didnt actually give Marvin a round tho until round 5 and not again until round 8 but he swept the next four rounds. Hagler shaded this fight but it wasnt the real Hagler nor was this for the undisputed crown as in the past. WBC portion only
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
sorry round 6 leonard. Round 7 Hagler.
Haplotype0 2 years ago 6
Round 4 Leonard clean combos, stood his ground.
Haplotype0 2 years ago
hagler won that last round
Dmidgette1 2 years ago
sixth roud leonard scored but seventh belonged to Hagler clearly since leonard showed his pains eventhough he tried to show his hands speed.
urs3339 3 years ago
Round 7 was great!
Johnnyfive83 3 years ago
Time and time again I've heard Marvin complain that Ray Leonard never won this fight. Hagler was a great champion but Leonard won this thing easy.
Readyrobby 3 years ago 10