This debate is not about health care its about government control. Electing what you think are smarter people wont help. The politicians are not stupid they are woring for those who pay them the most and thats the banks.
I believe in being open minded and listening to everyone's ideas. No one person has all the right answers and talking to other people with different views may bring things to your attention that you never thought of before. More liberals should take that stance since we are open minded about everything else. I have seen how they try to divide us so the government can do their dirty work while we are all distracted.... like CANNED HEAT says UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL -- Let's work together
HEY i get what he is saying about education. If the government didn't give out financial aid people would have less to spend on education. So they would have to compete for the little money that we do have right? therefore the cost wouldn't be as high. But they want to keep students in debt and borrowing from banks so i don't know if there is any turning back now because they would make us take out debt to pay for it. the greed is out of control and the quality of education SUCKS! look at UOP
Nice, Peter on Campaign for Liberty's channel. To me, everything is he said is sound. I'd like to hear the liberal response here, although I'm sure it would be full of emotional appeals and thus be a waste of time. Perhaps they would talk about the price of health care in nations that have public health care as if they're comparing it to the system Peter is talking about, although that system no longer exists in America, thus a flawed argument.
hey stop bashing liberals. I'm a liberal and i'm here listening to both sides right? we all have good things to offer and the government loves us hating eachother. they want to keep us divided to prevent us from having any say in what they are actually doing. like this SHAMEFUL health care bill they are going to pass. They want us to believe conservatives are heartless and liberals just want to steal your money. the truth is we all think our ways would produce better results and we all care
It's not bashing, it is pointing out the most common arguments. I'm not on a side Republican or Democrat, and I know sides are played against each other. I used Liberal because it was the most accurate word for a common counter-stance to what Peter said here.
ajla, I like were you're coming from, you are open-minded, I feel just as you do and I come from a conservative/libertarian perspective. The media seems to be keeping people divided into this Red State vs. Blue State meme while the Corporate/Government Establishment works night and day to undermine our constitutional republic.
I dont believe i will ever see a dime of what ive paid in. if it were truly a solvent system, then a person should be able to withdraw their own money anytime they need it, not just after they "maybe" reach the age of 65.
I've offered HR to take salary instead of insurance as a joke and everybody thought I was crazy. I'm only 26 years old and they think its a better idea for me to "short" my own health.
I'm sorry, but I'd rather go long on my own life and have more money when i'm old enough to retire. THAT is when i'll want money for medical bills.
What if i get hurt before then? you're human! You aren't immortal. You could die in a car crash on your way to make money for insurance!
Will Social Security still be around when i retire?
Yes. The Social Security taxes you now pay go into the Social Security Trust Funds and are used to pay benefits to current beneficiaries. The social security Board of Trustees now estimates that based on current law, in 2037, the Trust Funds will be depleted. Because people are living longer and the birth rate is low, the ratio of workers to beneficiaries is falling.
Therefore, the taxes that are paid by workers will not be enough to pay the full benefit amounts scheduled.
However, this does not mean that Social Security Benefit payments would disappear. Even if modifications to the program are not made, there would still be enough funds in 2037 from taxes paid by workers to pay about $760 for every $1,000 in benefits scheduled.
I've heard Schiff say many of the same things about college education. just calculated that it cost a total of over $100 a class in college, 34 of which I paid for as an in-state student. Given that many classes had 100-300 students or more, this doesn't seem efficient, even after paying the professor a high salary along with salaries for TAs. The economies of scale should work to bring costs down much more.
I used to have insurance through my employer that was taken out pre-tax. The pricing, through the county, had reached $1000 per month. And this was for a healthy, not even middle aged, family of 4. We dropped the "mandatory" county insurance and supplied our own through Costco's insurance plans. We cut our health insurance bill by about 60% and fill out the required county paperwork every open-enrollment.
Our county provided health insurance premiums have gone through the roof. Wages go up about 2% per year, cost of living increase is like 3% each year and health insurance goes up around 9% each year. But we are told to enjoy are raises. And now we have 1 furlough day each month and no cost of living increase this year. On top of that, as of November 1st, California has increased it's stat tax withholding by 10% and our county taxes went from 8.75% to 9%. But we're told we're making more money.
Select jewish families had a VERY heavy hand in the creation of many of the central banks in the world and most notably the Federal Reserve Bank here in America. The two main ones were the Rothchilds and Warburgs. You should read up on them. I personally think these were greedy people but the fact the are jewish has nothing to do with it. Of course when people like the CEO of Goldman, Lloyd Blankfein, loots the US taxpayer it doesn't help me debunk the fact that some people blame all jews.
Zionists are people who support israel. Nothing wrong with it except that Israel is criminal state and zionists control world banking system to finance its crimes. Majority of jews are zionists.
And the majority of Jews have a pretty tame view on the issue of Israel and Zionism. Judging by how Jews have been treated and how there are currently many hate crimes against Jews, the idea of a safe haven would sound appealing. Personally, I think Judaism is stupid, but people shouldn't be killed because of their beliefs.
We know what you're really thinking though "I need a scape goat to blame my failures on so I'll pick the Jews.. I mean 'Zionists'" You people are transparent.
And what group in society doesn't lie? Oh, the mythical state of denial in which you live in. Why don't you come out as pro something instead of anti something. what a fucking dweeb.
Health cost go up because of Insurance companies and uninsured taking up services in the emergency rooms. Insurance companies have no business in handling our medical benefits. They are just as bad as government. They are bunch of bureaucrats who take up too much of the money we pay. The system we have now cost too much money and too much of the money we pay goes to non-medical services.
Make everybody a paying customer by making them pay for health care through sales tax. This way, even illegal aliens are actually paying for it by spending money while they are here. 5 percent state sales tax, and 5 percent federal sales tax. and 2 percent from state and fed side to go into national health care voucher system, where the sick can pick and chose whatever hospital or doctor they want to go see.
I rather pay 10 percent sales tax than pay blue cross and blue shields $200.00 a pay so they can fight with my doctor about a bill and I wind up paying for whatever either one don't want to pay or cover. Its a crying shame whats going on now. The only people trying to make a profit should be the doctor and the hospital, not insurance companies.
Are you kidding me? Are you a doctor? How do you know its just the flu or a sprain ankle? Many many people who have insurance do not even go to a doctor for so called "flu" or "sprain limbs" and later find out that they had cancer or fractures.
So was Ludwing von Mises and Murray Rothbard. Not everyone who is jewish supports the workings of the Rothchilds and Warburgs. Not everyone is in on it, you have to get over that.
dude, give the fucking zionism thing a rest. Geeze man. Next thing you're going to ask if i'm a fucking zionist. Sure why fucking not. I'm also, black, pro affirmative action baby aborting, gay, lesbian, and straight and have 5 wives and 10 husbands and they're all zionists too. Also, they're terrorists and sell drugs and bombs and kidnapped christian children.
Give it a fucking rest man. pick a less shallow fucking subject.
this guy is so freaking smart!!! I love Austrian Economics!!! =)
AGuyWhoPunkUMama 10 months ago
Pot, ,Beer & cigarettes are god givin rights that Govt needs to supply everyone. and hurry up
louis12346 2 years ago 3
This debate is not about health care its about government control. Electing what you think are smarter people wont help. The politicians are not stupid they are woring for those who pay them the most and thats the banks.
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mariamakenzie287 2 years ago
You sure don't sound like a liberal
ajla0906.
Kremlin1813 2 years ago
I believe in being open minded and listening to everyone's ideas. No one person has all the right answers and talking to other people with different views may bring things to your attention that you never thought of before. More liberals should take that stance since we are open minded about everything else. I have seen how they try to divide us so the government can do their dirty work while we are all distracted.... like CANNED HEAT says UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL -- Let's work together
ajla0906 2 years ago 2
HEY i get what he is saying about education. If the government didn't give out financial aid people would have less to spend on education. So they would have to compete for the little money that we do have right? therefore the cost wouldn't be as high. But they want to keep students in debt and borrowing from banks so i don't know if there is any turning back now because they would make us take out debt to pay for it. the greed is out of control and the quality of education SUCKS! look at UOP
ajla0906 2 years ago
Nice, Peter on Campaign for Liberty's channel. To me, everything is he said is sound. I'd like to hear the liberal response here, although I'm sure it would be full of emotional appeals and thus be a waste of time. Perhaps they would talk about the price of health care in nations that have public health care as if they're comparing it to the system Peter is talking about, although that system no longer exists in America, thus a flawed argument.
eurohim 2 years ago 2
hey stop bashing liberals. I'm a liberal and i'm here listening to both sides right? we all have good things to offer and the government loves us hating eachother. they want to keep us divided to prevent us from having any say in what they are actually doing. like this SHAMEFUL health care bill they are going to pass. They want us to believe conservatives are heartless and liberals just want to steal your money. the truth is we all think our ways would produce better results and we all care
ajla0906 2 years ago
It's not bashing, it is pointing out the most common arguments. I'm not on a side Republican or Democrat, and I know sides are played against each other. I used Liberal because it was the most accurate word for a common counter-stance to what Peter said here.
eurohim 2 years ago
As a radical right wing conservative... I cannot say I disagree with you. Alas, you are right on!
mikelunz 2 years ago 2
ajla, I like were you're coming from, you are open-minded, I feel just as you do and I come from a conservative/libertarian perspective. The media seems to be keeping people divided into this Red State vs. Blue State meme while the Corporate/Government Establishment works night and day to undermine our constitutional republic.
xXU2BerXx 2 years ago
I dont believe i will ever see a dime of what ive paid in. if it were truly a solvent system, then a person should be able to withdraw their own money anytime they need it, not just after they "maybe" reach the age of 65.
CitizenViews 2 years ago
I've offered HR to take salary instead of insurance as a joke and everybody thought I was crazy. I'm only 26 years old and they think its a better idea for me to "short" my own health.
I'm sorry, but I'd rather go long on my own life and have more money when i'm old enough to retire. THAT is when i'll want money for medical bills.
What if i get hurt before then? you're human! You aren't immortal. You could die in a car crash on your way to make money for insurance!
TheMetalPerson 2 years ago
I got a packet from the SS recently:
Will Social Security still be around when i retire?
Yes. The Social Security taxes you now pay go into the Social Security Trust Funds and are used to pay benefits to current beneficiaries. The social security Board of Trustees now estimates that based on current law, in 2037, the Trust Funds will be depleted. Because people are living longer and the birth rate is low, the ratio of workers to beneficiaries is falling.
TheMetalPerson 2 years ago
..cont..
Therefore, the taxes that are paid by workers will not be enough to pay the full benefit amounts scheduled.
However, this does not mean that Social Security Benefit payments would disappear. Even if modifications to the program are not made, there would still be enough funds in 2037 from taxes paid by workers to pay about $760 for every $1,000 in benefits scheduled.
TheMetalPerson 2 years ago
This segment is on a brochure attached with "Your Social Security Statement" called
What young workers should know about Social Security and saving"
TheMetalPerson 2 years ago
OH and all you kiddies out there rememberf to keep paying the SS.... or they'll take you away to the FEMA camps.
Pay the SS knowing that they will not be there for you when you're older.
TheMetalPerson 2 years ago
Well said!
pepeledog 2 years ago
I've heard Schiff say many of the same things about college education. just calculated that it cost a total of over $100 a class in college, 34 of which I paid for as an in-state student. Given that many classes had 100-300 students or more, this doesn't seem efficient, even after paying the professor a high salary along with salaries for TAs. The economies of scale should work to bring costs down much more.
Zeldovich 2 years ago
Peter Schiff for Senate 2010 !!!
iannetta11 2 years ago 5
I used to have insurance through my employer that was taken out pre-tax. The pricing, through the county, had reached $1000 per month. And this was for a healthy, not even middle aged, family of 4. We dropped the "mandatory" county insurance and supplied our own through Costco's insurance plans. We cut our health insurance bill by about 60% and fill out the required county paperwork every open-enrollment.
skeil909 2 years ago
Our county provided health insurance premiums have gone through the roof. Wages go up about 2% per year, cost of living increase is like 3% each year and health insurance goes up around 9% each year. But we are told to enjoy are raises. And now we have 1 furlough day each month and no cost of living increase this year. On top of that, as of November 1st, California has increased it's stat tax withholding by 10% and our county taxes went from 8.75% to 9%. But we're told we're making more money.
skeil909 2 years ago
What on Earth is a Zionist? I keep seeing it mentioned across the net.
It's something to do with Jewishness yeah?
stuntpea 2 years ago
Select jewish families had a VERY heavy hand in the creation of many of the central banks in the world and most notably the Federal Reserve Bank here in America. The two main ones were the Rothchilds and Warburgs. You should read up on them. I personally think these were greedy people but the fact the are jewish has nothing to do with it. Of course when people like the CEO of Goldman, Lloyd Blankfein, loots the US taxpayer it doesn't help me debunk the fact that some people blame all jews.
soundmoneyfan 2 years ago 3
Zionists are people who support israel. Nothing wrong with it except that Israel is criminal state and zionists control world banking system to finance its crimes. Majority of jews are zionists.
dimaniak 2 years ago
The US is a criminal state. So are ALL states especially Israel AND Palestine.
AshillaBeige 2 years ago
"The US is a criminal state." I totally agree.
dimaniak 2 years ago
I don't get it. How are all states criminal?
MaurDL 2 years ago
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srarmageddon 2 years ago
The State is the biggest criminal organisation in all of history.
mexaguil 2 years ago 6
democrat + republican = Gambino + Gotti
holidayhouse03 2 years ago
are you guys sure you understand what the word "criminal" even means?...
MaurDL 2 years ago
And the majority of Jews have a pretty tame view on the issue of Israel and Zionism. Judging by how Jews have been treated and how there are currently many hate crimes against Jews, the idea of a safe haven would sound appealing. Personally, I think Judaism is stupid, but people shouldn't be killed because of their beliefs.
We know what you're really thinking though "I need a scape goat to blame my failures on so I'll pick the Jews.. I mean 'Zionists'" You people are transparent.
AshillaBeige 2 years ago
Are you zionist yourself?
dimaniak 2 years ago
Of course. I am a zionist who thinks Judaism is stupid and that Israel is a criminal state. Are you paid to be stupid?
AshillaBeige 2 years ago
zionists often lie...
you will be surprised how many anti-Zionists among Ron Paul supporters and how angry they would be if they discovered that Schiff was a Zionist.
dimaniak 2 years ago
And what group in society doesn't lie? Oh, the mythical state of denial in which you live in. Why don't you come out as pro something instead of anti something. what a fucking dweeb.
wingsuitfreak 2 years ago
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elbuggo 2 years ago
Health cost go up because of Insurance companies and uninsured taking up services in the emergency rooms. Insurance companies have no business in handling our medical benefits. They are just as bad as government. They are bunch of bureaucrats who take up too much of the money we pay. The system we have now cost too much money and too much of the money we pay goes to non-medical services.
GlockNinja 2 years ago
Make everybody a paying customer by making them pay for health care through sales tax. This way, even illegal aliens are actually paying for it by spending money while they are here. 5 percent state sales tax, and 5 percent federal sales tax. and 2 percent from state and fed side to go into national health care voucher system, where the sick can pick and chose whatever hospital or doctor they want to go see.
GlockNinja 2 years ago
I rather pay 10 percent sales tax than pay blue cross and blue shields $200.00 a pay so they can fight with my doctor about a bill and I wind up paying for whatever either one don't want to pay or cover. Its a crying shame whats going on now. The only people trying to make a profit should be the doctor and the hospital, not insurance companies.
GlockNinja 2 years ago
Are you kidding me? Are you a doctor? How do you know its just the flu or a sprain ankle? Many many people who have insurance do not even go to a doctor for so called "flu" or "sprain limbs" and later find out that they had cancer or fractures.
GlockNinja 2 years ago
is he zionist?
dimaniak 2 years ago
No, obviously not.
Shaunt1 2 years ago
but he is jewish
dimaniak 2 years ago
But he's not a Zionist. He's fighting against those Jews.
Shaunt1 2 years ago
So was Ludwing von Mises and Murray Rothbard. Not everyone who is jewish supports the workings of the Rothchilds and Warburgs. Not everyone is in on it, you have to get over that.
soundmoneyfan 2 years ago 3
but majority of jews are zionists.
dimaniak 2 years ago
in your opinion.
soundmoneyfan 2 years ago
dude, give the fucking zionism thing a rest. Geeze man. Next thing you're going to ask if i'm a fucking zionist. Sure why fucking not. I'm also, black, pro affirmative action baby aborting, gay, lesbian, and straight and have 5 wives and 10 husbands and they're all zionists too. Also, they're terrorists and sell drugs and bombs and kidnapped christian children.
Give it a fucking rest man. pick a less shallow fucking subject.
TheMetalPerson 2 years ago
are you a moron?
shlobb 2 years ago
Where are the insert edits? They were good.
DolphinFilms 2 years ago
Watch the original.
Shaunt1 2 years ago
Go Peter Schiff!!!!
Daniel44125 2 years ago