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  • i still hate this patch

  • Like if u came here to only see the OLD jungle :'(

  • DAT NEW JUNGLE 2GEWD

    

  • Everyone quit complaining be flexible with changes that is why there are like 100 champions and why they nerf and buff them... Then again most people play like 2 champions at most.

  • "RiotPhreak has slain Phreak"

  • I don't have much time for gaming. A few years back I started playing LoL, and found Sivir to be a good easy-to-use rounded champion. I learned her abilities, and found items that worked too. I bought her, and don't play anyone else.

    Tonight I played LoL for the first time in a while, and found Sivir had been changed. She now seem to be much weaker. Her cool ricochet ability to get creep-kills has been nerfed to hell, and I now have to use boomerang on creeps. Sivir has been fucked up the ass.

  • @kebakent LoL didn't exist "a few years back"

  • @kebakent She's a carry... She sucks in the beginning and then rapes face later on. That's why

  • @kebakent Please BEAR in mind that her W now deals damage based on bonus AD and resets her attack timer, so her burst is much higher than it was before.

  • @MaxPwnageIII Since writing my previous comment I have played the new Sivir a lot. While the old W ability was good for farming, and not much else, I have found the new one to be better when attacking heroes, while being a bit worse at farming.

    I usually buy shoes, then chalice of harmony, then black cleaver, then frozen mallot. This gives me a K/D of 1, and usually most assists on server. Can you recommend any changes to my build?

  • @kebakent yeah dude ofcourse i can.Play her as a satndar ad carry.She can now stand up against graves and vayne.fuck frozen mallet and chalies.Double dorans blade boots,vampires scepter infinity edge phantom dancer.And from there u can take bloodthirster last whisper and quicksilver slash in any order u are getting benefited better.And ur k/d will be blown to the top.carrying ur team.<3

  • i loved sivir how she was used to be ! why you guys changed her W skill :(

  • the new jungel sucks soooooooooooooooo hard

    we want the old jungel back

    so much jungler are now useless udyr warwick ...

  • Caster minion is now OP ._.

  • old jungle :(

  • SO OP!

  • you ask for changes you get changes and then you hate those changes..............

  • @OOgleMaster You can't possibly be saying that. People ask for other things and get completely the oposite. It's like ordering a Pizza and getting a Burger instead.

  • @SuperGamerCenter That was far, FAR from the case here. Nobody ASKED for a jungle update, a minion buff, etc.

    I'm finding it hard to take you seriously.

  • @MaxPwnageIII Exactly! NOBODY asked for those damn updates. Minion buff? People end up pulling a pentakill with like 10 HP left and then some fu**** minion kills them!

  • @SuperGamerCenter Once again, that isn't the point. Nobody asked for a minion buff, so your statement is irrelevant to the subject.

  • @MaxPwnageIII Minion Nerf*

  • @Kuti210 He said "People ask for changes, they get the opposite." So saying nerf would imply Riot buffed the minions. Investigate conversations before you say anything.

  • @MaxPwnageIII They made minions weaker... so they nerfed it. Just a correction, everyone do mistakes, dont get a big dick about it :)

  • @Kuti210 The OP said "People ask for changes, they get the opposite of those changes." But nobody asked for Riot to BUFF the minions, and he's implying in the quote above that people did. But they didn't. So the point is, he said people asked Riot to buff the minions, so instead they nerfed them, which isn't the case. You think that I'm confusing buff and nerf, which isn't the case. Look further into the conversation.

  • @SuperGamerCenter But games are different from getting burgers.Get the difference but u do prove a point

  • Easily

  • Volibears passive isnt that op if ur smart u can kill volibear players wasily all u have to do is trigger passive back off and use any crowd contral u have and just dish out damage

  • @FuriiouSAcridspy we all saw that, give it a break!

  • i used to be a jungler but then i took a nerf in the knee

  • new jungle awesome

  • I'll be surprised if this video gets over 9,000 likes in the next 5 months.

  • This patch makes it official: LoL is marketed as a strategy game, but intended to be a fighting game. Riot wants players to have more fights in their games and less resource management. Odd, because that's what Dominion was supposed to be about. Economics of span, maybe, but weird ones at that.

  • @RaichuWizDom Moba games have always been fighting games

    isnt that why they created Dota? because noobs cant play a proper rts?

    anyway all they did here was nerf the jungle

  • am I the only one that has no problems with/likes this patch?

  • @Severezz I love the changes. LoL just has a huge population of whiny self-entitled teenagers who know nothing about what makes a game fun or how to balance a game properly. Lack of early-game aggression has been a huge problem for LoL, and this patch should help a lot with that (Towers could use a small damage nerf as well).

  • It took people this long to realize Riot's been fucking up since Urgot. Enjoy LoL's last year in eSports, better start looking up DotA2 and HoN stuff guys.

  • @MrFpeas

    but hate hon...

  • just nerf volibear...that passive of his is just so op

  • it was this patch that made jungle shaco op ... i hate the new jungle

  • The nerf on the minions was the best nerf EVER! And the jungel route is good i think cuz like they said you have to be a little more skilled in good games to know when to gank..

  • Why does everyone complain about the jungle? You can still jungle everyone you used to, and the jungle changes allow you to try new characters in the jungle that never would have worked otherwise. Jax finally has a nice place on a team, for instance

  • @blitzforthewin the problem people have is mostly that pretty much any champ can jungle now, and that you can just easily play a character that has very strong ganking potential, while that champ is not strong at killing creeps

  • @95mister95 I don't see how this is anything but a good thing. It doesn't stop you from being able to jungle the old jungling champs, champs that are good at killing creeps still have the advantage of having the fastest jungle, and this just opens up more options for people to jungle (which is desperately needed in the solo queue). Plus, the jungle change allowed them to implement the much-needed red potion nerf

  • @blitzforthewin it made ganking alot less viable since you can stay in jungle and farm better without the gamble

    it also made champs like ww become sole solo top champs because he cant stand up to jungling champs like udyr or skarner

  • @ivynbean Ganking is just as viable now, the only difference is that you aren't forced to gank. Ganking is still a great way to help lanes, and if you manage to get a kill, you get more gold/exp than you would by staying in the jungle. And ww can still jungle, he just isn't used as much anymore because he can only really gank at level 6 and falls off a bit late game

  • Jesus this new jungle is awful. What were they thinking?

  • I was gonna thumb down, but I like the less minion damage so I didn't.

  • For the dumb asses who kept saying "buff mord" he actually got buffed riot is dumb!!! Fuck the jungle. Fuck mord he's an op son of a bitch, if you can't play mord when he's decent then you can't play him with skill.

  • R.I.P jungle

  • Jungle sux now barely gold for sure i rather gank

  • RIP Ricochet :(

  • wow, look at the dislike bar :O

  • You made Sivir worse than before. It was better the previous spell (W).

  • @WeeberJp No, It was not better. This one is a on next hit attack wisch makes her damage output much higher, and the cooldown isnt that high either.

    Sivir is pretty awesome right now.

  • @Pontacus the extra dmg isnt something amazing yea you can double hit whit it and the cd is low BUT sirvir needs a lot of mana whit her spells to farm when the old w make it farm way easier for much less mana so you realy base on blocking a spell to recover enough to use q/w and admit sivir doesnt make so much dmg for a single double hit....

  • People stop QQ Riot r trying to make the game best as they can.

  • @gianni35011 even though Dota 2 is 10 times better

  • @gianni35011 By ruining one of its most important aspects isn't the best way.

  • In the end say what you people want but i tend to listen to people like cyanide and crumbzz who like me believe that the jungle is now useless

  • This patch came about 2 weeks ago? I was very sceptic towards this patch and jungling after it. 2 weeks I'v been jungling A LOT and noticed that jungle didn't actually change at all. Stop QQing before you try it...

  • @TheAwleksi What do you mean jungling has changed immensely. The jungles give A LOT less exp and force you to gank earlier in order to get that exp and I doubt you play champs like ww and fiddlesticks, etc. who are basically only viable in the jungle and who are really bad for ganking until lvl 6 for the most part and now it takes them nearly twice the time to get to lvl 6 in the jungle. As well the new jungle took away from the advantage that natural sustainers had in it such as ww and fiddlest

  • @TheAwleksi When ww and fiddle sticks have blue, they never need to back until that blue is gone and ww can even do without the blue at that point. Now that the jungle gives less exp, people who can gank easily like udyr or xin can just go gank and make up the exp with a very likely kill. However, the sustain that ww and fid had in the jungle doesnt matter cause the jungle doesn't give enough exp to make the sustain viable so they could try to gank and by some miracle get a kill, or they just

  • @TheAwleksi have to sit in their jungle til the very painful lvl 6 comes. Stop dissing the QQers til you actually understand how big the change was.

  • @TheAwleksi Everything he says is right. your just fuckin stupid.

  • If you see a Volibear coming, eat some oranges and..... no, nvm.... TONS OF DAMAGEEE OM08ION6AID2BBUALKGN88NI45W28!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Buy Volibear and everything its k...

  • Thx for remaking the jungle again so we don't have too stick too this for too long!

  • Riot should do 1 Summoners Rift with old jungle and 1 with this new ''improved'' one and then see which game-mode collects more players. Those statistics wouldn't lie.

  • I think you should increase the leaver/AFK and bad player penalties instead of making retarded changes in your game! I've been playing for 4 whole hours now and my team is always retarded Russians who don't understand English!Also, make the EU West transfer free, cause I don't want to give money to an already shit game.

    Sincerely, Fuck you Riot GamesInc

  • when is ahri coming out?

  • hohooooooly shit so many dislikes

  • i want to play against phreak i wonder what is going to happen against me :)

    probably he will skip that fight and record another one -.-

  • i used to think this was a bad patch...then i took an arrow to the kne oh well its still a bad patch

  • Why does this games graphics look so crap compared to blizzards standard old W3??

  • Perfect lightsaber to destroy Riot.

  • Therre is really a problem, I didn't use to have problems in jungle, but now I have some...

    I fail 90% of my counter-jungles, and I don't xp in my jungle, no srsly, jungle was perfect, please, if you want keep the red's nerf, but jungle was better before this patch, now, I don't jungle, it's not fun for me...

    Maybe I should leanr to "use" the new jungle...

    Cool up for Sivir anyways...

  • NOOOOO! STOP CHANGING THE GAME!!! You'll end up doing the same as WoW did, you're gonna make the game so easy, that it becomes boring. Don't change the jungling route for gods sake! It was pretty much the only thing that was authentic since pre-season one! MAKE IT STOP!!!

  • Why so many dislikes?

  • @Barahue

    cause they ruined the damn jungle

  • @GoldenCrusader93 :O how?? :(

  • @Barahue No skill.

  • @Barahue people hear the word easy they dislike, if they said retuned, there be way less dislikes

  • I'm calling it now, TF OP

  • Put a map with the old jungle!!!

  • 1:35 "zestawów runów" xD

  • @VampireXsistence thats the worst dislike joke ive ever seen

  • @aRedCarrot How abt 28,861 people thought that the dislike button was Dis-is-like? (^.^)v

  • @VampireXsistence still looks bad

  • @aRedCarrot justin biber baby on vevo to mush dislikes

  • @aRedCarrot Great, now I have to look for VampireXsistence comment... -.-

  • @VampireXsistence

    seriously ?

    you couldnt come up with anything better ? :d

  • @Arddunen come up with one and i see if its better, if its not then stfu

  • New Jungle rewards champions who are risky to jungle with and punishes champions who have sustainability. I hope you're happy Riot, you killed my favorit champion. :'(

    R.I.P Warwick, I knew thee well.

  • nerfing jungle... i was playing mainly alistar jungle as main champion...

    jungle is actually harder now for ali....Thanks for "nerfing jungle" brainless ppl will always be brainless i guess.

  • Alright, the new jungle is fine, but there are some tweaks to be made, maybe raise the gold and exp of the creeps but lower the spawning time? Spawns way too fast right now. The healing after each camp is good though.

  • WHY SCREW UP THE JUNGLE!?

  • Some champions must be nerved they are to op and destroy the game

  • @mspuffi1 ..? Like who? You can't bitch about champions destroying the game and then not name a single one. Besides, no champs are supremely OP and "Destroying" the game right now. There's some that are a bit stronger and more viable, but nothing game-breaking. Care to actually explain?

  • Ich hab grad ein Spiel gegen Xin und Volibear mit Trundle und Nasus gemacht... Ich und Nasus waren gefeedet, Xin und Volibear nicht. Wir haben verloren -.-

    Anstatt so eine Scheiße zu patchen vielleicht mal Trynda und Xin nerven ?

  • i guess no one will be using smite EVER

  • you knew that ashe is pretty much of a kick-ass jungler?

  • Change it back you little nugget

  • this shit is op!!!!

  • wassup niggas

  • The new jungle is ok,but i strongly dislike the lowered minion damage

  • i like the new jungle iv seen more agressive play thank you!

  • The next patch should undo all the gameplay changes of this patch -.-

  • No nerfs trynda?

    Op crit char , never dies with ult , and heal a lot .

  • @luKaz895 Hes not over powered if you get armor and a bit of cc.

  • @Woodlanderivitive if he gets thornmail? lol

  • lolSivir now

  • The Jungling was just fine how it was Riot, but listen 80% of the community was fine with the regular jungling route, and understand 20% community is under age kids/teens half the time they rage, and sometimes if something doesn't go as planned they want to change it immediately. Now I am not saying every kid or teen rages what I am trying to say is, "They don't know what they want".

  • @xskullzon3 For the most part yes, but dont shove it on an age group, thats just being ignorant. True there are alot of 10 year old ragers, but I have seen plenty of 20 and 30 year old ones too. And also, it depends on the person weather they "know what they want". Im 14, I main jungle shaco, and I thought that the jungle was perfect the way it was. Dont get me wrong, I agree with you, just dont judge age groups, judge people.

  • @dsamuss The jungle is screwed that's all I have to say, and all I see is just kids raging, so that why I am pointing them out....

  • @xskullzon3 Totally agree with you...

  • 4:03 a Phreak within a Phreak

  • Today I saw in total two alistars jungling. lol.

  • @CarlAxelBo alistar used to be the best jungler in lol if u knew the build and how to play him.The reason: +1exp rune u started at big wraith sharing the exp with middle ap giving him a big boost.

    big wrath-wolves-blue-finish off remaining wraiths -gank..This way u cant gank him lvl 1 at blue.

    and more important reason.2stuns.This means 100% kill even if other guy pops everything to escape.+he can flash into turret headbut someone out,pulverise and team will finish him off .towerdive

  • I used to play as singed, but then I took a bear to the knee

  • I used to play Leagues of Legends but then I took an arrow to the knee.

  • But... why? o_O

  • CANT WAIT FOR GUILD WARS 2!!!

  • why so long to describe? s u c k s.

  • Ok for the jungle but why does it lower the level 4, I do not agree also on the duration of Respawn monsters of the jungle. and thank you for the minions because the damage is too high for the first few levels. On this I hope you read this comment. Green thumb for him to see

  • Best Game EVER!!!!

    

  • new jungle suck !

  • That was the worst patch i even seen so far. Why they change the jungle ? It was perfect !

  • Is this what I get for christmas? Jungle change was stupid TBH....

  • I was complaining for a long while, but in practice...it's not bad.

  • WE WANT THE OLD JUNGLE BACK !!!

  • Atleast give us an option when where picking whichtype of game we play

  • that's what to be expected no game ever last good, developers tend to change stuff because they don't have anything else to change, who cares about low level players? we all got to 30 without this nerf and before the junglers were WW and yi it was fun for us, but to change this just because they don't have anything else to change is silly. just like WoW when they try to make everything easy, the game becomes too easy for the rest and results to being bad.

  • THE NEW JUNGLE SUCKS!! YOU NEED NO SKILL

    

  • Riot, You destroy the fucking Game if you not pay attencion you lose all of your fans and gamers

  • Hate jungle remake so much

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  • sivir is worse now...

  • Hhhhufs

  • The new jungle sucks junglers go lvl to slowly

  • New jungle sucks..plane and simple..riot listen to your fan base before you don't have one anymore

  • riot give us the old jungle pls

  • Please don't only think about those who are lower in level. Think about those who are lv 30 as well. Change back the jungle please.

  • WTF?!  DID BLIZZARD take over leagues design team?! FIRST wow goes to shits with Pandas.. and Know this crap?! FFFFFFFFFFFF

  • Why would you make jungling for dummies? It wasn't hard to begin with and now you made it for those who have no place jungling.

  • dont see how you guys think jungling is bad did 23/4/11 with fiddlesticks and it feels the same to me seriously just a bunch of pussies complaining because there jungling route is not as planned and they cant "steal" jungle creeps anymore

  • The new jungle is awesome , what are you guys complaining about ? you just have to hit one more camp to get to lvl 4

  • @TheTranBri Nothing is free, if it doesn't cost money, then it still costs time. If a game is not worth your time, you would not want to play it. People have every right to hate this new jungle, don't be a fanboy.

  • I Dont see The problem with The new jungling system. They've just made it easier whats so horrific with that?

  • yea RIOT plz make the game more easy and newb friendly, fucking idiots, GIVE US THE OLD FUCKING JUNGLE ! MAKE UNIQUE CHAMPS!!!!

  • League of fucking legends is becoming a heaven for fuckin retards where everyone just slam their face on to the keyboard and just roll it across and win without having to look at the fucking screen. so disappointed

  • Yeah people always seem to bitch about something. Now it's the jungle everyone is crying about it. I don't really care because I think jungling is the most boring aspect in this game. So change it back,keep it the same. It doesn't matter to me because i don't do it anyway lol.

  • Sivir is so shitty now. Why the fuck would you mess with ricochet now? That was why she was one of the best at farming. Now shes just a shitty range thats only good super late game. Un fucking real. Its not like so many people were playing with her to fuck that move up so bad. Pisses me off cause I spent money on her skin and I dont want to use her anymore cuz she blows.

  • PUT BACK THE NORMAL JUNGLE PLEASE! I get so fucken underlvled when jungling! Its no fun!

  • just calling in to remind you that this is the worst thing you ever ever ever ever ever did to the game

  • Sivir is super strong now.. She can 2 shot an AD carry or caster at lvl 2 now

  • I WANT THE OLD TF im hoping all patches that they finally buff his ult pls thumbs up if u agree

  • Hate the new jungle! change it back before u lose half of your players n left with nothing but noobs