Facebook-created by an atheist computer-created by an atheist Mark Twain is an atheist Daniel Radcliffe is an atheist Marie Curie, first woman to get nobel prize in physics is atheist Seth MacFarlene-atheist Angelina Jolie-atheist Hellen Keller- atheist Billie Joe Armstrong-atheist Ray Romano-atheist Larry King-atheist Charlie Chaplin-atheist Brad Pitt-aheist Ricky Gervais-atheist Lance armstrong-atheist and on and on.......
funny that you bring up hitler since the guy was a christian and the church never threw him out
also about 50 % of the most influencel inventors was none belivers so your claim holds no ground there
you also need to take in account that most of the people sitting in the american jail have a religion and look the staistic up if you dont belive me its there the biggest groupe bieng christians
so before you go and hate on us get your facts straight first otherewise you just seem boring and dumb
Old old old stuff, and even was back in '08 when it was posted. Ideologies have the potential danger. All the talk about Hitler, Mao, Stalin, etc. just are such sidetracks. Keep off the red herrings peeps!
Hitler was a catholic. The extermination of the Jews was based on christian hatred of what they did to Jesus (see the video from Jewish Rabbi here on youtube if that is unclear). Nazi germany was a christian nation with their own Nazi approved christianity called "positive christianity" (see wikipedia) their symbol was the cross combined with swaztika. When hitler survived the assassination attempt he believed he was saved by god cause he did gods work.
Atheism and Science share the same spirit: the quest for Truth and the Denial of blind faith and without that, there would be nobody but native americans living in the place you live in right now (which might be a lot better) and your average life span would be something from 20 to 30 years. You attack the Spirit of Progress and Change, and yet you wouldn´t want your Children to grow up in the Dark Ages I guess. Atheism is not the Reason why - but a fundamental element of these days being over.
Hitler = Atheist: One phrase written in shorthand by a secretary that was thought to put him in the atheist camp by the first person who translated it but was thoroughly debunked by every subsequent person who looked at it.
Hitler = Catholic: Numerous public speeches, All over Mein Kampf, Letters, First treaty ever signed was with the Vatican, Atheists not allowed in the SS, "God is with us" on the belt buckles of every German soldier, etc, etc.
I do not like communism, that's death from a political point. 5 million, still no excuse. How many people were killed in "the name of godlessness." They're Christian based because most people are Christian. Bill Gates HAS THE GREATEST DONATION IN THE WORLD. Non-believer.
@starsheild7 Bill Gates company which he owns does not produce iPhones. And it doesn't matter creationists helped him. He, even with a disbelief, knowing or thinking he has one life, donates money to people. Yet it still doesn't even say anything about his intelligence as human being. Greeks who believed their mythology created architecture we still use today. Does that mean Greek mythology is superior and smarter?
@SorryStamin I only tried to refute one single quote from you when you said, "Bill Gates has the greatest donation in the world. A non-believer", as if you'r implying that atheism IN ITSELF contributes something good. I like the fact that "anyone" can invent, I just don't like it when people use inventions to try to prove that atheism alone contributes something good; atheism alone is a lacking of something, not a gaining. Atheism either does nothing, or it takes away from something
@starsheild7 Or how about it adds to something? Watch "Imagine if atheists leave America?" It's sources are in the description. It shows that there is a correlation between atheism and benefits to our society. Is this a direct cause of atheism persay? No. Does it show something yes.
And the same argument can be used against Christians. Chinese workers make clothes and a huge percentage of them are Buddhist/Taoist, does that mean Christianity has NO credit when it donates clothes? Of course not.
@cappecfh Creationists were the ones who invented the first computing systems (the computer). Bill Gates worked from the computer to invent an iphone; but the science of computers started with creationists, not atheists (A.K.A. confused human beings).
What you said about the death tolls over the past few hundred years is NOT about secularism or atheism, but about communism, which a form of government, not a religion. Go back to school and learn the difference!
@misterjiggles97 So, secularism and atheism are religions, you say? I won't say go back to school, as I don't think there is a school on earth that can save you from your stupidity.
They are Christian based because there are more Christians than Jews and Atheists. Your delusions of grandeur of Christianity are what create problems in this world. You are so wrapped up in your unsupported beliefs, that it doesn't matter what anyone says. What you don't understand is that every group does wrong. Unfortunately, you are too ignorant to realize that Christianity isn't perfect. The belief in a deity has created problems for centuries.
Hitler was a Catholic, he DEFINITELY wasn't a Communist, and 11 million people died due to the Holocaust.
Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot killed all those people because they didn't respect their authoritah. This is also true for all those other infamous people and institutions who were in power. The thing with religion is that those people USE god as an excuse to kill. Of course, there are those people who kill a bunch of people because they said that god told them to (not just Muslims do this).
The thing is, even if religion didn't exist, people would still form groups to justify hate. So really, the reason the world sucks today is not because of any religion but rather because humans suck in general.
Most children molested in a religious institution are Catholics (Stem from Christianity don't say Catholicism and Christianity aren't two sides of one coin). Atheists created medicine, without science the earth would still be flat. Wouldn't it be a giant leap to pin Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Polpot's mass murder on Atheism? I believed Hitler prayed, and it was only easy to target the jews because the bible said they are sinners.
hitler only killed 6 million????? thats just jews what about homosexuals gypsies and countless slavic peoples. Oh and he was on good terms with the pope. Capitalism is not only killing people today it is destroying our home the earth.
Those guys your talking abuot, ruled by faith. Did they ever allow their members to question their actions?
Atheism in itself is not a virtue, but it means we are not going to dumbly commit some atrocities because we do not want to question authority, like religion.
Atheism is not a virtue like how not being retarded is not being smart.
Atheism doesnt contribute anything. Because we are not a charitable organisation liek the redcross. It isnt even a way to look at the world. It is simply a position that there is no reason to believe in god.
However, atheism makes it possible for superior moral compasses to exist without religion constraining it.
What is the point of this? Atheism is the lack of belief in a "higher power." Nothing you say is ever going to make me think, "Oh, so that nonsense in the bible must be real." CBN (yes, THAT CBN) reported on study that showed that atheists, as a group, had more knowledge of the bible than ANY OTHER group. Seems the more people know about the bible, the less they can believe in it. Most atheists are good people because it's the right thing to do, not because some book tells them to be nice.
@jezuzfreek777 a very nice video....If you dig deeper as to How come Christians are able to do more good? Where to they derive their economic power from.... didn't that come from colonial rule/ slavery and inquisitions. A good example of atheists(closest in ideology) doing good for society can be seen in Asia where Buddhist and Jains have various charitable organisations. Also Christian organisations have a hidden motive behind their help.
this is a great topic to get responders pissed off at you. are you serious?
you do realize that atheists are waiting for proof, and that you cannot give any, right?
Therefore, you lose, right from the beginning. don't do this to yourself. instead, try analyzing and challenging your own faith. i did after being indoctrinated and brainwashed for 20 years. you probably won't, because you are held by the fear of hell if you defect or if you don't believe in the first place. quite a system.
All in order too created the perfect society too reach their evolutionary peak,where the strong dominate the weak.
The evidence is copious and irrefutable: Hitler was definitely atheist and Darwinist, and these pernicious beliefs of his were the direct cause of the holocaust.
last thing, there or a lot more suffering caused by christians that the 5 million in the cruisades, all in the name of god. But yeah, also in the name of Darwinism. is it because these two things are both bad and the core of evil? off course not. It where the person who caused harm who are wrong, and used religion/Darwinism or anything else to justife there actions.
Also, you seem to have a weird view of atheist. atheist are not a "group"like christians and therefore share nothing, accept the fact that they don't believe in a god. But there morals and view of the world are not the cause of the fact that they are atheist, but because how they where raised.
atheism is not believing in god or a anything related to it. So nothing more than having no religion. That would also mean that there is no connection between atheist or a base for a group. And there are lot of charity programs started by atheist people and a lot of progress made by atheist people, but not in the name of atheism. But because they find it the right thing to do or they where just curious.
i tried to answer all your questions the best as i can. but what wrong with you is you are like a dripping faucet. you bombard me a lot of questions which is very obvious to me that you are not interested for an answer. Is that because you think i am retarded and my answers are dumb? if so why are you still talking to me? . talk racism to me since that is the first issue you raised against the Lord Jesus.
Hey wise guy dont run away from the topic you started. you said that my Lord is racist. I gave you an answer. but your reply is only to tell me that im retarded. read again the scriptures that you gaved me about Jesus refusing the woman because she is not a Jew. lets talk about that.
Im not an expert in explaining Luke 14:26. But I believe what Jesus is telling us here is for us to put our love for him on top of everything else including our parents.
3. Of course Jesus as God in the flesh can do anything he wants. And he knows that this event will be written in the bible and eventually you will be able to read it. I believe he is making a point here. A lesson for us that is not pleased if we live an unfruitful life. Look from within you. Do you bear fruit? Galatians 5:22 "22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control."
2. Why do you have issues with the pigs? Are you not rejoicing/happy a demon possessed man was free from his nightmare? In the first place it was the demons act that drowned the pigs. You love the pigs more than a persons life. Are you a pig farmer?
1. Jesus in Matt. 15:21-28 shows that in actuality Jesus will not turn anybody down. Initially he is not willing to help the woman. His disciples are worst bec they want to banish the woman from Jesus. If you read that passage the woman got a miracle she needed from the Lord Jesus. Its false to say that Jesus is racist. If anyone will humble themselves to Jesus they will never be turned down. Read the scriptures again and let it speak for itself about the Lord Jesus.
Why the hell are you comparing Communism to Religion? It is only in the last 20 years that Christianity has done ANY good, and that was after all the insanity and pointless, irrational deaths. Religion no longer is required in modern society.
you're wrong: christianity is not 2,000 years old. Hitler was a christian. You really need to take a stats course. You are not counting all of the blood christianity has on its hands. Dude, you can't ignore the fact that European christian history is so bloody. Christianity itself is a long, ongoing holocaust that gets to call itself "society." Do you know about the holy wars? and the ones still going on today? dude, you NEED to get yourself educated. If this is a joke, ur hilarious
@eduardorenato hey i want you to consider that people can claim to be a christian and yet does not follow the commands of Christ. You have made this assumption about Christianity but can you provide any commands in the Bible that Jesus commands his followers to do a Holy War? This is like driving a car with a 5 star safety rating but if the driver drives crazy on the interstate then all those 5 star rating seems to be non beneficial. Its the same thing with what you are accusing Christians of.
@joab302016 I understand you could say they were a christian and not "really" have a relationship with Christ. The problem is, since a relationship with Christ is predicated on radical faith, one can never be quite sure they aren't a bad Christian. The whole point of faith is that you believe in something ESPECIALLY when you can't know. If all are guilty of original sin and can not help but sin, its moral exceptionalism. If you don't have to be a pacifist to be a christian, why does Hitler? .
@eduardorenato i dont agree. Jesus said to anyone wanting to be his followers: "Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me." And that is the radical faith true Christianity requires. I admit a lot of evil and cruel things happened in the name of Christianity but if you are as ignorant of Jesus' teachings like these false Christians then I am not surprised in all your assertions. Have you read at least one Gospel from start to end?
@badpanda84 Lets set aside Religion for a while. What are your criticism of Jesus Christ? What is his ideology that upsets you? What traits about him that you like(if any)?
@joab302016 because no one can go back in time and actually ask Jesus what he meant people can interpete Jesus's teaching anyway they want. ( and they do)..
Even on topic Jesus never preached about ( like homosexuality and abortion)
I agree with you that Jesus in his lifetime didnt elaborate as much as we like on the issue with Homosexuality and espcially Abortion. In Jesus days on earth he was found most of the time arguing with the hypocrite religious leaders. As a Christian I actually find very little about Jesus teachings that are often misinterpreted or misused. To tell you honestly most of the Christian teachings that are controversial are the teachings made by the Apostle Paul.
@eduardorenato I suggest you read the Gospel of Mark. Its the shortest of all four gospels and its easier (for me) to understand. I hope one day you will taste and see the goodness and beauty of what is in Christ Jesus.
@MrFoxbat25 That's funny because he was trying to further "Social Darwinism", the strong survive and the weak die, the fundamental evolutionary belief. Hitler said, "The stronger has to rule and must not mate with the weaker. Only a born weakling would consider this cruel.” Hitler also believed in a mythical "higher" race (Aryans) that stemmed from norse mythology, not Roman Catholicism.
Communism isn't equal to atheism, but swearing and name calling make you sound stupid, and don't help.
"A few days ago I was in Eisenach and stood on top of the Wartburg, where a great German once translated the Bible."-Adolf Hitler, referring to Martin Luther, the author of "On the Jews and their Lies" and the great Christian reformer.
Despite Christian attempts to downplay reality, it is a known fact that the Nazis cited Luther's treatise to justify the Final Solution.
In Mein Kampf, Hitler calls Luther one of the greatest heroes of Germany and the German people.
"In the Bible we find the text, 'That which is neither hot nor cold will I spew out of my mouth.' This utterance of the great Nazarene has kept its profound validity until the present day".
-Adolf Hitler 04-10-1923
"It matters not whether these weapons of ours are humane: if they gain us our freedom, they are justified before our conscience and before our God."
In Mein Kampf, Hitler listed Martin Luther as one of the greatest reformers. One of Luther's books "the Jews and their lies" was a major source of inspiration to Hitler.
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter." -Hitler
"A few days ago I was in Eisenach and stood on top of the Wartburg, where a great German once translated the Bible." -Hitler, referring to Luther.
philosopher David Hume, who is perhaps the most important (influential) English speaking philosopher of all time is thought to have been an atheist. His stance against the idea of an objective morality, as well as the notion of the is-ought problem were hugely influential for modern Western thought.
The thing about so many dying under communism and nazism: During the time those to ideologies have been influential there have been a much larger amount of people to kill than during the time that christianity held sway. Further, the christian leaders did not have organization or technology to enact mass killings on such a scale.
Sir, (Jezuzfreek777) what is your definition of a non-Christian? I do not refer to an Atheist, because in other videos, you have referred to people who are not Christians, as both non-Christians and Atheists, so obviously they are two separate things. I would very much like a reply to this question. Thank you.
atheism doesnt have to contribute anything to society. its not a moral stand point. it simply means you dont believe in god. its like asking what do people who dont believe in santa clause contribute to society??? does it matter? and to be honest what christianity has contributed to society is separatism, lies , war, silly traditions intolerance. not that it doesnt have good attributes, but atheist are groups do charitable things and and help the human community just like any religious group.
You ever heard of the horrors done by a thing called the spanish inquisition. You are pulling theories out of you're head, and NOT supporting them with fact or evidence. Hitler was a facist, not a communist, and he was NOT an atheist.
Of course you don't see the great things of Atheism, because you are so consumed by blind faith. Expect a video reply, you cannot expect to say this absurd ideology, which is not based on fact, without enormous criticism from Atheists and common sense thinkers.
atheism does not lead to communism. hitler was not a communist, he was a facist. and another error you made was in niche's philosophy. hitler twisted niche's philosophy to meet his own ends. niche is actually often seen as an early feminist being that his core philosophy is to gain power, which breaks the submissive role of women. another error you made was with the "facts" about hospitals, charites, and what not being christian based. the majority of them are actually secular. ex red cross.
Hey fucktard, stop trying to equate atheism with murder! You have failed before and are still up to your old tricks! If we have to accept that not all theists are homicidal sociopaths (Jim Jones, David Koresh, Charles Manson, George Bush....God spoke to them all, remember!), you could extend us the same god-damn courtesy, you fucking douche! You'll never find truth even if it took its cock outta yer ass and slapped you silly with it. You can go ahead and block me now... asswhipe!
@jezuzfreek777 great work o linking atheism to communism and nazism asshole
im sorry but what you say in this video is just rediculous. you really think stalin had people killed because he was an atheist?! and hitler was roman catholic but even if he wasn't he didn't kill jews in the name of atheism.
i love when critics of atheism talk about stalin and hitler, but then leave out modern nations like sweeden,norway,denmark that are thriving economically and socially
Atheism only brings a new way of thinking, no one is going to do good or bad actions because of atheism. Stalin and Hitler instaured cults similar to religions, the atheist would also fight against them :) People would still do all this good things thay do because of christianity even if they didn't believe in it, because they are good peoplebut the bad things wouldnt have happened, and btw killing 10m 500 years ago or 1000 years ago is much much more than killing them 100 years ago
Atheism isn't a group who fights tooth and nail to try to create a facade of righteousness like Christianity. I have no objection for the nice things that Christian groups do. Lots of people choose to do nice things, it's not just Christianity anyway.
What I have a problem with is the system of control that organized religion is. Believe in your fairy tales, fine. Just don't force your bullshit onto others and spread your poisonous ignorance like a fucking plague.
Ok, first off... Nazi Germany was led by a psychopathic leader. Cold-blooded psychopathy = Atheism? What the fuck kind of logic is that? It's so fucking typical for an ignorant person to throw Hitler into the equation when they have no actual evidence or support for an argument.
The crusades were fought FOR religious purposes. Hitler fought for GERMANY, not atheism. Get your logic straight, you ignorant fuck.
Hey, uh, jezuzfreek777, you see that camera you're looking at? That mic you're talking into? Yeah, more than likely, the scientists who invented those for you were atheists. Just thought you should know, since you can't see it by yourself.
Also: WHAT THE FUCK DOES COMMUNISM HAVE TO DO WITH ATHEISM? Just out of curiosity. >.>
I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so,"Hitler told Gerhard Engel, one of his generals, in 1941.
Born and bred a Catholic, he grew up in a religion and in a culture that was anti-semitic, and in persecuting Jews, he repeatedly proclaimed he was doing the "Lord's work."
You will find it in Mein Kampf: "Therefore, I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews, I am doing the Lord's Work."
"...a wise man once said "Atheism is not an ideology, but Darwinism, Nietzcheism (which Hitler was), Freudianism, Marxism, Communism, etc are ideologies with an atheistic base. These different "isms" within Atheism are like the different denominations within Christianity." "
No, that wasn't a wise man. That was an idiot.
The "Hitler was an atheist" fallacy has been debunked so often it's embarrassing you haven't taken this video down. Hitler was a bad Catholic, but he certainly believed in God.
Also, jesusfreek, your'e an idiot. Go read something instead of posting five minutes of complete horseapples. Actual research will trump bare prejudice every time. people like FinalStarmanDX are the future of the world, and they just stomped you in to the dirt. How does that make you feel? Communism is not inherently bad. It was just horribly implemented by the USSR. Proper communism would solve many of the problems of the world. What is christianity but a blind faith with no hard evidence?
Probarbly your most silly video I´ve seen. So many wrongs in so little time. But I´m sure they´ve already been pointed out by the 3300 others who has replied to this.
5 million people killed because of christianity...
comunism is NOT atheism... people were NOT killed BECAUSE atheism, they were killed because of dogmatic governments that the real problem was not atheism... the real problem with these governments was that they were too much like religion.
In the end I personally think you could have done much more research on the examples you used to bash atheism. Also I think you shouldn't use the "Christianity owns all" mind set. It's almost like a small child saying their better than everyone else for arbitrary reasons. That concludes my counter "argument" for this video. I would like to thank you Jezuzfreak and Ronburgundy for letting me correct myself in this manner. Good night. Part 12/12
You see Jezuzfreak, there are these things you call morals, but there are also these things I call ethics. Morals are often classified as religious teachings. Ethics are the same thing, but aren't taught the same way. Christians have the moral of not killing people. Atheists have the ethic of not killing people. We have our own common sense derived ways of living. Atheism shouldn't be treated like the next satanism, when really, it shares a lot of the same types of rules as Christianity. Part 11
You know what makes this video fail greatly? Atheism doesn't require anything. It's a lack of belief and a diety or dieties. Christianity however, CAN require people to kill, torture, maim, and screw up the world for the sole purpose of living forever. Much can be said about many religions, especially the Abrahamic ones. But secularism causing problems? Ask any Christian at the establishments you mentioned and ask them questions about the New Testament. See if they pass the "Jesus" test.
Atheism contributes so much technological and scientific advances it's nearly maddening. You have to realize, for every scientific theory or fact that disproves God, there were a thousand technological and scientific improvements that had to be made to reach that conclusion. Atheism also does not truly cause that many problems as well. Just because people don't accept God into their life doesn't mean they're going to be the next Hitler potentially. Part 10
This brings me to the next fact. Many people are forced the ideals of God down their throat at an early age. I let people parent how they want to and all, but it just seems that if you don't let as kid figure stuff out themselves in terms of religion they tend to grow up unable to differ because they think it always was wrong to not believe what their parents do. Now for my final arguments or what atheism contributes. part 9
The society that Christianity helped so much has created many who act in disgust to those who reject all gods. They don't care if you believe in Allah, but as soon as you don't believe in anything there's a problem. For every few comfort found in Christianity there's a couple of new people who despise those who dare to believe commons sense. I'm not saying that Christianity is nonsensical, I'm just saying that some people are able to develop the ability to believe what they deem sensible. part 8
Now, I will admit that Christianity provides a decent amount of comfort to people, but I won't admit it contributes the insane amount good it is thought to. Christianity does unfortunately create silly dislike towards certain groups of people, such as atheists. Atheists came along saying that they had a way of think that contradicts Christianity, which therefore makes them reject it's ideas. After this a small but still sizable group of Christians began to act opposed to them. part 7
@FinalStarmanDX Excuse me but is it necessary to: Instead of make a short informative video or blog, make a series of comments effectively spamming a Christians video?
@crazyinsane500 I already said in the beginning that I apologize if it seems like a rant. I never expected it to get 12 comments long, I mean seriously. I usually don't have this much to back me up. Besides, at least I did something constructive and not just repeated the same waste of space 12 times. I presented facts in an attempt to make somebody rethink their opinion. As for the reason I decided not to make a video response. I just feel that my voice can not express my point correctly.
Karl Marx and Frederich Engels were not trying to hurt people with an atheist based government. They were trying to find a good alternative for capitalism. As an economist once said "Capitalism is the worst government ever! Yet it is the best the world has ever seen!" I see no fault in the pioneers of communism's ways. Besides, communism looks great on paper. We humans just mess it up with our natural sense of greed. Next I will discuss the "Christianity's outweighing good" part 6
The next part of my argument is to defend Marxism and all of the "sub-genres" of it (I do not believe in Marxism at all... or any government for that matter, but I have read not only the communist manifesto, but also The Wealth of Nations, the essays that founded capitalism). The point of making atheism the center of these types of governments is simply to separate religion from the state no matter what. No need for a constitutional amendment suggesting or stating it. part 5
That clears up the first part of my counter "argument" so to speak. In short Stalin was never supposed to be the leader of the Soviets! He was an insane man who manipulated the communist party to gain his position! Now as for the Nietzcheism and Hitler remark. Simply because Hitler was a believer of Nietzcheism doesn't mean it was bad! Hitler was also Hebraic and North African! Simply because of that does it mean all Hebraic and/or North African people are bad too? part 4
Yeah, Great video man! ... I mean what a compelling well constructed statement ... and only about a thousand extra dislikes over thumbs up ...... indeed, compelling
Communism does not equal Atheism. You blend all secularism with Atheism in your points right? Well, if you want to do that, then you need blend all conservatism with Christianity (including Islam). See how that works?
BTW, Hitler was a baptized Catholic you blathering idiot. I'm not saying Christianity has done nothing for society but inspire death and despair, but to say that's all Atheism has contributed is monumentally ignorant.
How about... Oh I don't know? 99.9% of Modern-day science?
In a speech delivered in Berlin, October 24, 1933, Hitler stated: "We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out. right out of the nazis mouth...your pwnd
Isn't Denmark a society filled with mostly atheists? It seems to do quite well with it, their government pay unemployment for 2 years with up to 90% of the original salary. Atheism can actually help society, and that's because it diversifies. What does Christianity contribute?
@FinalStarmanDX Erm...just because a population is predominantely atheist doesn't mean their lack of belief has anything to do with their success. And in this case it certainly doesn't apply. And Christians, inspired by their faith, contributes a fair bit in the charitable giving department,. But this, of course, is overshadowed by the demonstrable destruction is has caused to the world.
@RonBurgundy161 Now before you read this I do want you to know I will continue it on in more than one post, if you believe I am ranting I apologize. Anyway. Overshadowed doesn't sound right. It sounds like the bad it does isn't that bad yet it gets intensified. I find this to be wrong. The last comment was a bit misdirected, you see, I aim to prove people like jezuz freak here wrong. Not due to religion, but the common mindset, "I want to prove other religions wrong." part 1
@RonBurgundy161 Once again, I may be ranting but I do feel that my original comment was rather misdirected, but from your constructive response I think you may not mind too much. Now, Jezuzfreak here attempts to trace atheism to many more deaths through communism and Hitler. For communism I must say a few things. First, Stalin was a possibly insane man who was beaten as a child where his rage showed even back then. When Vladimir Lenin died he said that Stalin should not be made in charge. part 2
Same thing as before, sorry if this is a rant and it isn't and at this point is is directed towards jezuzfreak as well. Despite what were pretty much Lenin's last wishes in terms of the Soviet government they still gave Stalin a seat of power in the communist party. The only other person who was directly up for being the Soviet leader was Leon Trotsky. Stalin made sure Trotsky was exiled to siberia as soon as possible, leaving him the seat of power as the leader of the Soviet Union. part 3
Are you asserting that Atheist aren't good people and don't do good things? I guess my question is why do you need religion to do all those good things? Why do you need fear or hell to do good things? Christianity gives the weak a way to gather and unify, doesn't make it true.
hitler wasnt a communist? under communism in general?ur an idiot
I thank Heaven that a portion of the memories of those days still remains with me. Woods and meadows were the battlefields on which the 'conflicts' which exist everywhere in life were decided.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.
tHE PROBLEM IS THAT millions have been killed by atheist governments also....To me the evidence shows that the problem is collectivism (the group or mass mentallity).
People get together in a powerfull majority group and will give THEMSELVES the power to attack people that do not agree with them. .Whether Muslim , Christian OR atheist this concept of an abusive majority seems to hold true
You completely ignore the fact that communists killed people because of political reasons and disobedience (like your god in the bible), not even 50% of the genocide commited was of religious reasons.
@Imhornydadcomeinside That, and it was completely a cult of personality - they deified their leaders, essentially treating them like a religion. They also had moustaches, but I wouldn't attribute that to what they did.
@pogibija A true christian is one who tries their best to follow the bibles teachings and represents them through his or her daily life, like you said before, one of the commandments in the bible is
"Thou Shalt Not Murder."
Hitler Murdered on PURPOSE he didn't TRY not to murder those people which means he is not a true Christian. =)
@pappabear2010 during the dark ages Christians killed millions also. they believed to heart it was for their god that to conquer/slaughter was right, yet their bibble said "thou shall not kill" just as Hitlers did.
Doesn't matter if they are not a "true Christian", they still are still doing it for your god :] and I don't like that
@pappabear2010 you are a moron if you believe that to be true. i can guarantee now that i could find hundreds of bible verses you dont follow because theyre barbaric and idiotic.
also then god is not a true christian, he murdered the entire of the human race bar 9 in the bible and killed hundreds of thousands besides that
@C7T5R Strong atheism is the belief that there is no god. Weak atheism (the most common kind of atheism) is a lack of belief in god. Most atheists will define themselves as having a lack of belief in god.
This has nothing to do with what I said and nothing to do with the question here.
"... belief that there is no God" & "... Lack of belief in God." is the same statement.
Unless of course you mean 'lack of trust in God' which is not an Athiest view is it?
Or maybe you mean someone isn't sure and they have a 'lack of belief in God power' but they believe he could/might exist. They just aren't sure or don't have a properly formed opinion, thus making them Agnostic, no?
@C7T5R Wikipedia "Religion is a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of life and the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a supernatural agency,[1] or human beings’ relation to that which they regard as holy, sacred, spiritual, or divine." Saying there is no God is connected to this, especially since most people are not atheists and there isn´t proof for atheism. It´s a belief sys and the prophets are fallible men like Dawkins and maybe also Charles Darwin.
@heythinkaboutit incorrect.. atheism is not a belief.. it is an anti-belief. it is saying that one cannot believe something like religion without sufficient evidence.. stop reading the bible you retard
@thedominator1991 Atheism is a belief as long as you can´t prove it.
We have to face it: No one can exist without belief: Wether it´s your belief that the religion of atheism is true which doesn´t make so much sense to me or the believe in God. Science can´t prove atheism and hints to God in many ways
(fine tuning of the universe for example) and there are many people who had interesting experiences after their baptism or after praying which can´t be explained by an atheistic worldview .
"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches." 4. Charles Darwin "I do not believe in any revelation. As for a future life, every man must judge for himself between conflicting vague probabilities."
5.Mark Twain
One of the proofs of the immortality of the soul is that myriads have believed in it. They have also believed the world was flat.
"Question with boldness even the existence of God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." 1787 letter to his nephew
8.Never seek to censor or cut yourself off from dissent; always respect the right of others to disagree with you. 9.Form independent opinions on the basis of your own reason and experience; do not allow yourself to be led blindly by others. 10.Question everything
4.Do not overlook evil or shrink from administering justice, but always be ready to forgive wrongdoing freely admitted and honestly regretted. 5.Live life with a sense of joy and wonder 6.Always seek to be learning something new 7.Test all things; always check your ideas against the facts, and be ready to discard even a cherished belief if it does not conform to them. (2 of 3)
the alternative to the Ten Commandments cited by Dawkins in The God Delusion is: 1.Do not do to others what you would not want them to do to you 2.In all things, strive to cause no harm 3.Treat your fellow human beings, your fellow living things, and the world in general with love, honesty, faithfulness and respect.
"I want you to let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good...". "When I, or people Like me are running the country , you better flee because we will find you, we will try you, and we'll execute you. I mean every word of it. I will make it part of my mission to see to it that they are tried and executed."
2. God "Take all the heads of the people and hang them up before the Lord against the sun.” -- Numbers 25:4 "Their children shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes! There houses spoiled, and their wives raped...Dash the young men to pieces...have no pity on the fruit of the womb, the children shall not be spared" -- Isa 13:16-18
if most Hospitals in the United States are Christian based, as you claim, why do the hospitals /HMOs deny access to medical care and healthcare to 40 million+ people a year? Why are they not helping the needy, the sick, the infirm?
Communism doesn't equal atheism you idiot! You're mixing up politics and religion, which are actually separate entities. When Stalin and other Communist leaders killed people it was to wipe out people who were opposed to them politically, which had NOTHING to do with religion! Get a fucking education!!!!
If a leader is christian and starts a war, thats not called christians killing people, thats a person starting a war. Now if the war was because of religion, then thats christians killing. None of the people you mentioned killed anyone in the name of atheism.
Since atheism posits that there is no God, there is no compelling reason for atheists to engage in acts of charity. Since God is a lie-according to atheism-then doing 'good' in the name of a lie has no intrinisic meaning. Atheists might choose to do 'good' if they 'feel' like it, but there is no compelling reason for them to do so.Fortunately, the United States remains a predominantly Christian society, and faith,hope, and charity are still present here.
straighter100 2 weeks ago
once again...you have no idea what your talking about you suck dude
cjachee069 4 weeks ago
funny that you bring up hitler since the guy was a christian and the church never threw him out
also about 50 % of the most influencel inventors was none belivers so your claim holds no ground there
you also need to take in account that most of the people sitting in the american jail have a religion and look the staistic up if you dont belive me its there the biggest groupe bieng christians
so before you go and hate on us get your facts straight first otherewise you just seem boring and dumb
pailmaster 1 month ago
Old old old stuff, and even was back in '08 when it was posted. Ideologies have the potential danger. All the talk about Hitler, Mao, Stalin, etc. just are such sidetracks. Keep off the red herrings peeps!
929myohmy 2 months ago
ps--more people than you realize are atheists and that is after all what societies boil down to: individuals.
929myohmy 2 months ago
Hitler was a catholic. The extermination of the Jews was based on christian hatred of what they did to Jesus (see the video from Jewish Rabbi here on youtube if that is unclear). Nazi germany was a christian nation with their own Nazi approved christianity called "positive christianity" (see wikipedia) their symbol was the cross combined with swaztika. When hitler survived the assassination attempt he believed he was saved by god cause he did gods work.
The1VoiceOfReason 4 months ago
Atheism and Science share the same spirit: the quest for Truth and the Denial of blind faith and without that, there would be nobody but native americans living in the place you live in right now (which might be a lot better) and your average life span would be something from 20 to 30 years. You attack the Spirit of Progress and Change, and yet you wouldn´t want your Children to grow up in the Dark Ages I guess. Atheism is not the Reason why - but a fundamental element of these days being over.
GardenOfLoveMUSIC 5 months ago
I really hate to have to state the obvious but.
Hitler = Atheist: One phrase written in shorthand by a secretary that was thought to put him in the atheist camp by the first person who translated it but was thoroughly debunked by every subsequent person who looked at it.
Hitler = Catholic: Numerous public speeches, All over Mein Kampf, Letters, First treaty ever signed was with the Vatican, Atheists not allowed in the SS, "God is with us" on the belt buckles of every German soldier, etc, etc.
lordsilly 5 months ago
I do not like communism, that's death from a political point. 5 million, still no excuse. How many people were killed in "the name of godlessness." They're Christian based because most people are Christian. Bill Gates HAS THE GREATEST DONATION IN THE WORLD. Non-believer.
SorryStamin 5 months ago
@SorryStamin But without creationists Bill Gates wouldn't have been able to work from a computer to even invent an iphone in the first place.
starsheild7 2 months ago
@starsheild7 Bill Gates company which he owns does not produce iPhones. And it doesn't matter creationists helped him. He, even with a disbelief, knowing or thinking he has one life, donates money to people. Yet it still doesn't even say anything about his intelligence as human being. Greeks who believed their mythology created architecture we still use today. Does that mean Greek mythology is superior and smarter?
SorryStamin 1 month ago
@SorryStamin I only tried to refute one single quote from you when you said, "Bill Gates has the greatest donation in the world. A non-believer", as if you'r implying that atheism IN ITSELF contributes something good. I like the fact that "anyone" can invent, I just don't like it when people use inventions to try to prove that atheism alone contributes something good; atheism alone is a lacking of something, not a gaining. Atheism either does nothing, or it takes away from something
starsheild7 1 month ago
@starsheild7 Or how about it adds to something? Watch "Imagine if atheists leave America?" It's sources are in the description. It shows that there is a correlation between atheism and benefits to our society. Is this a direct cause of atheism persay? No. Does it show something yes.
And the same argument can be used against Christians. Chinese workers make clothes and a huge percentage of them are Buddhist/Taoist, does that mean Christianity has NO credit when it donates clothes? Of course not.
SorryStamin 1 month ago
Hitler was a CATHOLIC. Please read ANOTHER book besides the bible.
XisoLate 6 months ago
look at you're I phone.
without atheism you would not have that yet and without christianity you would have had it 50 years ago.
cappecfh 6 months ago
@cappecfh Creationists were the ones who invented the first computing systems (the computer). Bill Gates worked from the computer to invent an iphone; but the science of computers started with creationists, not atheists (A.K.A. confused human beings).
starsheild7 2 months ago
What you said about the death tolls over the past few hundred years is NOT about secularism or atheism, but about communism, which a form of government, not a religion. Go back to school and learn the difference!
misterjiggles97 6 months ago
@misterjiggles97 So, secularism and atheism are religions, you say? I won't say go back to school, as I don't think there is a school on earth that can save you from your stupidity.
theantisauronist 5 months ago
4:59 your telling me since people didnt get christianity forced down their throats the first time you needed the crusades to force it on em.
mmmmmhmmmm seems logical???
kipikawaii708 6 months ago
what other thing has christians gave us??
child raping priests
kipikawaii708 6 months ago
Religion has stunted our scientific and technological development.
MarvelAmbassador369 6 months ago
They are Christian based because there are more Christians than Jews and Atheists. Your delusions of grandeur of Christianity are what create problems in this world. You are so wrapped up in your unsupported beliefs, that it doesn't matter what anyone says. What you don't understand is that every group does wrong. Unfortunately, you are too ignorant to realize that Christianity isn't perfect. The belief in a deity has created problems for centuries.
MarvelAmbassador369 6 months ago
Hitler was a Catholic, he DEFINITELY wasn't a Communist, and 11 million people died due to the Holocaust.
Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot killed all those people because they didn't respect their authoritah. This is also true for all those other infamous people and institutions who were in power. The thing with religion is that those people USE god as an excuse to kill. Of course, there are those people who kill a bunch of people because they said that god told them to (not just Muslims do this).
4ingP 6 months ago
The thing is, even if religion didn't exist, people would still form groups to justify hate. So really, the reason the world sucks today is not because of any religion but rather because humans suck in general.
kimanyv 7 months ago
Most children molested in a religious institution are Catholics (Stem from Christianity don't say Catholicism and Christianity aren't two sides of one coin). Atheists created medicine, without science the earth would still be flat. Wouldn't it be a giant leap to pin Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Polpot's mass murder on Atheism? I believed Hitler prayed, and it was only easy to target the jews because the bible said they are sinners.
iTzJimBoi 7 months ago
hitler only killed 6 million????? thats just jews what about homosexuals gypsies and countless slavic peoples. Oh and he was on good terms with the pope. Capitalism is not only killing people today it is destroying our home the earth.
ryler05 7 months ago
Those guys your talking abuot, ruled by faith. Did they ever allow their members to question their actions?
Atheism in itself is not a virtue, but it means we are not going to dumbly commit some atrocities because we do not want to question authority, like religion.
Atheism is not a virtue like how not being retarded is not being smart.
gooieslee 7 months ago
Atheism doesnt contribute anything. Because we are not a charitable organisation liek the redcross. It isnt even a way to look at the world. It is simply a position that there is no reason to believe in god.
However, atheism makes it possible for superior moral compasses to exist without religion constraining it.
gooieslee 7 months ago
What is the point of this? Atheism is the lack of belief in a "higher power." Nothing you say is ever going to make me think, "Oh, so that nonsense in the bible must be real." CBN (yes, THAT CBN) reported on study that showed that atheists, as a group, had more knowledge of the bible than ANY OTHER group. Seems the more people know about the bible, the less they can believe in it. Most atheists are good people because it's the right thing to do, not because some book tells them to be nice.
marpmck 7 months ago
You are wrong, read Mein Kampf. You are a moron.
okiwatashi 7 months ago
@jezuzfreek777 a very nice video....If you dig deeper as to How come Christians are able to do more good? Where to they derive their economic power from.... didn't that come from colonial rule/ slavery and inquisitions. A good example of atheists(closest in ideology) doing good for society can be seen in Asia where Buddhist and Jains have various charitable organisations. Also Christian organisations have a hidden motive behind their help.
CodeNamedAsdfg12345 8 months ago
this is a great topic to get responders pissed off at you. are you serious?
you do realize that atheists are waiting for proof, and that you cannot give any, right?
Therefore, you lose, right from the beginning. don't do this to yourself. instead, try analyzing and challenging your own faith. i did after being indoctrinated and brainwashed for 20 years. you probably won't, because you are held by the fear of hell if you defect or if you don't believe in the first place. quite a system.
rovingdesertfox 8 months ago
what does atheism contribute to society?
World War 1, World War 2, eventually world War 3
All through Marxism,Atheism & Secularism
All in order too created the perfect society too reach their evolutionary peak,where the strong dominate the weak.
The evidence is copious and irrefutable: Hitler was definitely atheist and Darwinist, and these pernicious beliefs of his were the direct cause of the holocaust.
samuraioj 8 months ago
Are Nazis atheists ?? I dont think so if you go thru documentaries you will always find Preists on the front row of all of Hitlers speeches.
CodeNamedAsdfg12345 8 months ago
what does atheism contribute to society?
INTELLIGENCE.
CHANGE.
LIBERALISM.
TOLERANCE.
RATIONALITY.
LOGIC.
PEACE.
501poundmiget 8 months ago
last thing, there or a lot more suffering caused by christians that the 5 million in the cruisades, all in the name of god. But yeah, also in the name of Darwinism. is it because these two things are both bad and the core of evil? off course not. It where the person who caused harm who are wrong, and used religion/Darwinism or anything else to justife there actions.
jakiedark 8 months ago
Also, you seem to have a weird view of atheist. atheist are not a "group"like christians and therefore share nothing, accept the fact that they don't believe in a god. But there morals and view of the world are not the cause of the fact that they are atheist, but because how they where raised.
jakiedark 8 months ago
atheism is not believing in god or a anything related to it. So nothing more than having no religion. That would also mean that there is no connection between atheist or a base for a group. And there are lot of charity programs started by atheist people and a lot of progress made by atheist people, but not in the name of atheism. But because they find it the right thing to do or they where just curious.
jakiedark 8 months ago
Atheists contribute rationality and logic. What do creationists contribute? Oh yeah...retardation.
XSDarkMoonZX 8 months ago
i tried to answer all your questions the best as i can. but what wrong with you is you are like a dripping faucet. you bombard me a lot of questions which is very obvious to me that you are not interested for an answer. Is that because you think i am retarded and my answers are dumb? if so why are you still talking to me? . talk racism to me since that is the first issue you raised against the Lord Jesus.
joab302016 8 months ago
Hey wise guy dont run away from the topic you started. you said that my Lord is racist. I gave you an answer. but your reply is only to tell me that im retarded. read again the scriptures that you gaved me about Jesus refusing the woman because she is not a Jew. lets talk about that.
joab302016 8 months ago
"Churches... offer knowledge."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
DrkwrldAuthor 8 months ago
Im not an expert in explaining Luke 14:26. But I believe what Jesus is telling us here is for us to put our love for him on top of everything else including our parents.
joab302016 8 months ago
3. Of course Jesus as God in the flesh can do anything he wants. And he knows that this event will be written in the bible and eventually you will be able to read it. I believe he is making a point here. A lesson for us that is not pleased if we live an unfruitful life. Look from within you. Do you bear fruit? Galatians 5:22 "22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control."
joab302016 8 months ago
2. Why do you have issues with the pigs? Are you not rejoicing/happy a demon possessed man was free from his nightmare? In the first place it was the demons act that drowned the pigs. You love the pigs more than a persons life. Are you a pig farmer?
joab302016 8 months ago
1. Jesus in Matt. 15:21-28 shows that in actuality Jesus will not turn anybody down. Initially he is not willing to help the woman. His disciples are worst bec they want to banish the woman from Jesus. If you read that passage the woman got a miracle she needed from the Lord Jesus. Its false to say that Jesus is racist. If anyone will humble themselves to Jesus they will never be turned down. Read the scriptures again and let it speak for itself about the Lord Jesus.
joab302016 8 months ago
If it wasnt for atheism no one would have questioned the catholic church.
Which means we would still belive demon cause diease etc.
Basically atheism got us out of the dark ages..
badpanda84 9 months ago
it would take an ignorant christian to come up with the title of this video.
JESUStheATHEIST1 9 months ago
Why the hell are you comparing Communism to Religion? It is only in the last 20 years that Christianity has done ANY good, and that was after all the insanity and pointless, irrational deaths. Religion no longer is required in modern society.
-Man made God, not the other way around.
TheArchon427 9 months ago
Fuck you Athiest dont lie
sirbestnameever 10 months ago
you're wrong: christianity is not 2,000 years old. Hitler was a christian. You really need to take a stats course. You are not counting all of the blood christianity has on its hands. Dude, you can't ignore the fact that European christian history is so bloody. Christianity itself is a long, ongoing holocaust that gets to call itself "society." Do you know about the holy wars? and the ones still going on today? dude, you NEED to get yourself educated. If this is a joke, ur hilarious
eduardorenato 10 months ago
@eduardorenato hey i want you to consider that people can claim to be a christian and yet does not follow the commands of Christ. You have made this assumption about Christianity but can you provide any commands in the Bible that Jesus commands his followers to do a Holy War? This is like driving a car with a 5 star safety rating but if the driver drives crazy on the interstate then all those 5 star rating seems to be non beneficial. Its the same thing with what you are accusing Christians of.
joab302016 10 months ago
@joab302016 I understand you could say they were a christian and not "really" have a relationship with Christ. The problem is, since a relationship with Christ is predicated on radical faith, one can never be quite sure they aren't a bad Christian. The whole point of faith is that you believe in something ESPECIALLY when you can't know. If all are guilty of original sin and can not help but sin, its moral exceptionalism. If you don't have to be a pacifist to be a christian, why does Hitler? .
eduardorenato 10 months ago
@eduardorenato i dont agree. Jesus said to anyone wanting to be his followers: "Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me." And that is the radical faith true Christianity requires. I admit a lot of evil and cruel things happened in the name of Christianity but if you are as ignorant of Jesus' teachings like these false Christians then I am not surprised in all your assertions. Have you read at least one Gospel from start to end?
joab302016 10 months ago
@joab302016 " but can you provide any commands in the Bible that Jesus commands his followers to do a Holy War?"
yes I can... in fact in the old testement is full of "jews ( prior to Jesus) killing other relgions/
but if you are talking about the new testment then matthew 10:34 34
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword/
Jesus never said " you must respect other relgions"
badpanda84 9 months ago
@badpanda84 Lets set aside Religion for a while. What are your criticism of Jesus Christ? What is his ideology that upsets you? What traits about him that you like(if any)?
joab302016 9 months ago
@joab302016 The problem is no so much about Jesus chirst -- but rather relgion
As Ganhid said " like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”
The really problem is that people claim they follow jesus but in reality they follow the writing of Paul.
The problem is that people have distorted Jesus Chirst teachings.. who know what he really said.. he probably has been misquote countless times anyway
badpanda84 9 months ago
@joab302016 because no one can go back in time and actually ask Jesus what he meant people can interpete Jesus's teaching anyway they want. ( and they do)..
Even on topic Jesus never preached about ( like homosexuality and abortion)
badpanda84 9 months ago
I agree with you that Jesus in his lifetime didnt elaborate as much as we like on the issue with Homosexuality and espcially Abortion. In Jesus days on earth he was found most of the time arguing with the hypocrite religious leaders. As a Christian I actually find very little about Jesus teachings that are often misinterpreted or misused. To tell you honestly most of the Christian teachings that are controversial are the teachings made by the Apostle Paul.
joab302016 8 months ago
@joab302016 Actually I fully agree.. if christainity based there teaching of Jesus as opposed to Paul's letter it would have been alot better off
badpanda84 8 months ago
@eduardorenato I suggest you read the Gospel of Mark. Its the shortest of all four gospels and its easier (for me) to understand. I hope one day you will taste and see the goodness and beauty of what is in Christ Jesus.
joab302016 10 months ago
hitler was roman catholic you ******* delusional *****.
communism is not equal to atheist you *********.
MrFoxbat25 10 months ago
@MrFoxbat25 That's funny because he was trying to further "Social Darwinism", the strong survive and the weak die, the fundamental evolutionary belief. Hitler said, "The stronger has to rule and must not mate with the weaker. Only a born weakling would consider this cruel.” Hitler also believed in a mythical "higher" race (Aryans) that stemmed from norse mythology, not Roman Catholicism.
Communism isn't equal to atheism, but swearing and name calling make you sound stupid, and don't help.
Thar20 10 months ago
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MrFoxbat25 10 months ago
answer: a hell of a lot more then any christian does
aceofspades57 11 months ago
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kauzmic1 11 months ago
"A few days ago I was in Eisenach and stood on top of the Wartburg, where a great German once translated the Bible."-Adolf Hitler, referring to Martin Luther, the author of "On the Jews and their Lies" and the great Christian reformer.
Despite Christian attempts to downplay reality, it is a known fact that the Nazis cited Luther's treatise to justify the Final Solution.
In Mein Kampf, Hitler calls Luther one of the greatest heroes of Germany and the German people.
kauzmic1 11 months ago
"In the Bible we find the text, 'That which is neither hot nor cold will I spew out of my mouth.' This utterance of the great Nazarene has kept its profound validity until the present day".
-Adolf Hitler 04-10-1923
"It matters not whether these weapons of ours are humane: if they gain us our freedom, they are justified before our conscience and before our God."
-Adolf Hitler 08-01-1923
kauzmic1 11 months ago
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In Mein Kampf, Hitler listed Martin Luther as one of the greatest reformers. One of Luther's books "the Jews and their lies" was a major source of inspiration to Hitler.
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter." -Hitler
"A few days ago I was in Eisenach and stood on top of the Wartburg, where a great German once translated the Bible." -Hitler, referring to Luther.
kauzmic1 11 months ago
philosopher David Hume, who is perhaps the most important (influential) English speaking philosopher of all time is thought to have been an atheist. His stance against the idea of an objective morality, as well as the notion of the is-ought problem were hugely influential for modern Western thought.
matternicuss 11 months ago
The thing about so many dying under communism and nazism: During the time those to ideologies have been influential there have been a much larger amount of people to kill than during the time that christianity held sway. Further, the christian leaders did not have organization or technology to enact mass killings on such a scale.
larodem 11 months ago
Sir, (Jezuzfreek777) what is your definition of a non-Christian? I do not refer to an Atheist, because in other videos, you have referred to people who are not Christians, as both non-Christians and Atheists, so obviously they are two separate things. I would very much like a reply to this question. Thank you.
romanblood 11 months ago
Read a history book idiot
commandera19 11 months ago
atheism doesnt have to contribute anything to society. its not a moral stand point. it simply means you dont believe in god. its like asking what do people who dont believe in santa clause contribute to society??? does it matter? and to be honest what christianity has contributed to society is separatism, lies , war, silly traditions intolerance. not that it doesnt have good attributes, but atheist are groups do charitable things and and help the human community just like any religious group.
live4pce 11 months ago
You ever heard of the horrors done by a thing called the spanish inquisition. You are pulling theories out of you're head, and NOT supporting them with fact or evidence. Hitler was a facist, not a communist, and he was NOT an atheist.
Of course you don't see the great things of Atheism, because you are so consumed by blind faith. Expect a video reply, you cannot expect to say this absurd ideology, which is not based on fact, without enormous criticism from Atheists and common sense thinkers.
romanblood 11 months ago
atheism does not lead to communism. hitler was not a communist, he was a facist. and another error you made was in niche's philosophy. hitler twisted niche's philosophy to meet his own ends. niche is actually often seen as an early feminist being that his core philosophy is to gain power, which breaks the submissive role of women. another error you made was with the "facts" about hospitals, charites, and what not being christian based. the majority of them are actually secular. ex red cross.
leuby4 1 year ago
Hitler a Nietzschean? According to Nietzsche, Hitler would be an "Untermensch" or a 'lower human'.
pulsatingremedy 1 year ago
Hey fucktard, stop trying to equate atheism with murder! You have failed before and are still up to your old tricks! If we have to accept that not all theists are homicidal sociopaths (Jim Jones, David Koresh, Charles Manson, George Bush....God spoke to them all, remember!), you could extend us the same god-damn courtesy, you fucking douche! You'll never find truth even if it took its cock outta yer ass and slapped you silly with it. You can go ahead and block me now... asswhipe!
metalskinstudios 1 year ago
@jezuzfreek777 great work o linking atheism to communism and nazism asshole
im sorry but what you say in this video is just rediculous. you really think stalin had people killed because he was an atheist?! and hitler was roman catholic but even if he wasn't he didn't kill jews in the name of atheism.
i love when critics of atheism talk about stalin and hitler, but then leave out modern nations like sweeden,norway,denmark that are thriving economically and socially
KingMatthewDaGreat 1 year ago
Atheism only brings a new way of thinking, no one is going to do good or bad actions because of atheism. Stalin and Hitler instaured cults similar to religions, the atheist would also fight against them :) People would still do all this good things thay do because of christianity even if they didn't believe in it, because they are good peoplebut the bad things wouldnt have happened, and btw killing 10m 500 years ago or 1000 years ago is much much more than killing them 100 years ago
MrDubidubidubidu 1 year ago
Nietzsche wasn't a anti-Semite dude! He would have loathed the Nazis . And don't lump Nietzsche with the Communists. He also hated them .
vonsiems1963 1 year ago
Atheism isn't a group who fights tooth and nail to try to create a facade of righteousness like Christianity. I have no objection for the nice things that Christian groups do. Lots of people choose to do nice things, it's not just Christianity anyway.
What I have a problem with is the system of control that organized religion is. Believe in your fairy tales, fine. Just don't force your bullshit onto others and spread your poisonous ignorance like a fucking plague.
Vurandal01 1 year ago
Ok, first off... Nazi Germany was led by a psychopathic leader. Cold-blooded psychopathy = Atheism? What the fuck kind of logic is that? It's so fucking typical for an ignorant person to throw Hitler into the equation when they have no actual evidence or support for an argument.
The crusades were fought FOR religious purposes. Hitler fought for GERMANY, not atheism. Get your logic straight, you ignorant fuck.
Vurandal01 1 year ago
Hey, uh, jezuzfreek777, you see that camera you're looking at? That mic you're talking into? Yeah, more than likely, the scientists who invented those for you were atheists. Just thought you should know, since you can't see it by yourself.
Also: WHAT THE FUCK DOES COMMUNISM HAVE TO DO WITH ATHEISM? Just out of curiosity. >.>
Monjaru 1 year ago
I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so,"Hitler told Gerhard Engel, one of his generals, in 1941.
Born and bred a Catholic, he grew up in a religion and in a culture that was anti-semitic, and in persecuting Jews, he repeatedly proclaimed he was doing the "Lord's work."
You will find it in Mein Kampf: "Therefore, I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews, I am doing the Lord's Work."
Heteblixem 1 year ago
What does your Lack of belief in the Tooth Fairy contribute to society?
VColossalV 1 year ago
what does a guitar solo intro contribute to your video?
strynate 1 year ago
"...a wise man once said "Atheism is not an ideology, but Darwinism, Nietzcheism (which Hitler was), Freudianism, Marxism, Communism, etc are ideologies with an atheistic base. These different "isms" within Atheism are like the different denominations within Christianity." "
No, that wasn't a wise man. That was an idiot.
The "Hitler was an atheist" fallacy has been debunked so often it's embarrassing you haven't taken this video down. Hitler was a bad Catholic, but he certainly believed in God.
SAHBfan 1 year ago
ever heard of godwin's law?
gbohnen27 1 year ago
Also, jesusfreek, your'e an idiot. Go read something instead of posting five minutes of complete horseapples. Actual research will trump bare prejudice every time. people like FinalStarmanDX are the future of the world, and they just stomped you in to the dirt. How does that make you feel? Communism is not inherently bad. It was just horribly implemented by the USSR. Proper communism would solve many of the problems of the world. What is christianity but a blind faith with no hard evidence?
gbohnen27 1 year ago
Probarbly your most silly video I´ve seen. So many wrongs in so little time. But I´m sure they´ve already been pointed out by the 3300 others who has replied to this.
Astillion 1 year ago
5 million people killed because of christianity...
comunism is NOT atheism... people were NOT killed BECAUSE atheism, they were killed because of dogmatic governments that the real problem was not atheism... the real problem with these governments was that they were too much like religion.
daniel93382 1 year ago
Lol, Jezuzfreek777. you totally got roasted by a 15 year old a 100x more intelligent then you. Have a nice day! :)
rickpidgeon123 1 year ago
In the end I personally think you could have done much more research on the examples you used to bash atheism. Also I think you shouldn't use the "Christianity owns all" mind set. It's almost like a small child saying their better than everyone else for arbitrary reasons. That concludes my counter "argument" for this video. I would like to thank you Jezuzfreak and Ronburgundy for letting me correct myself in this manner. Good night. Part 12/12
FinalStarmanDX 1 year ago
You see Jezuzfreak, there are these things you call morals, but there are also these things I call ethics. Morals are often classified as religious teachings. Ethics are the same thing, but aren't taught the same way. Christians have the moral of not killing people. Atheists have the ethic of not killing people. We have our own common sense derived ways of living. Atheism shouldn't be treated like the next satanism, when really, it shares a lot of the same types of rules as Christianity. Part 11
FinalStarmanDX 1 year ago
You know what makes this video fail greatly? Atheism doesn't require anything. It's a lack of belief and a diety or dieties. Christianity however, CAN require people to kill, torture, maim, and screw up the world for the sole purpose of living forever. Much can be said about many religions, especially the Abrahamic ones. But secularism causing problems? Ask any Christian at the establishments you mentioned and ask them questions about the New Testament. See if they pass the "Jesus" test.
crazyinsane500 1 year ago
Atheism contributes so much technological and scientific advances it's nearly maddening. You have to realize, for every scientific theory or fact that disproves God, there were a thousand technological and scientific improvements that had to be made to reach that conclusion. Atheism also does not truly cause that many problems as well. Just because people don't accept God into their life doesn't mean they're going to be the next Hitler potentially. Part 10
FinalStarmanDX 1 year ago
This brings me to the next fact. Many people are forced the ideals of God down their throat at an early age. I let people parent how they want to and all, but it just seems that if you don't let as kid figure stuff out themselves in terms of religion they tend to grow up unable to differ because they think it always was wrong to not believe what their parents do. Now for my final arguments or what atheism contributes. part 9
FinalStarmanDX 1 year ago
The society that Christianity helped so much has created many who act in disgust to those who reject all gods. They don't care if you believe in Allah, but as soon as you don't believe in anything there's a problem. For every few comfort found in Christianity there's a couple of new people who despise those who dare to believe commons sense. I'm not saying that Christianity is nonsensical, I'm just saying that some people are able to develop the ability to believe what they deem sensible. part 8
FinalStarmanDX 1 year ago
Now, I will admit that Christianity provides a decent amount of comfort to people, but I won't admit it contributes the insane amount good it is thought to. Christianity does unfortunately create silly dislike towards certain groups of people, such as atheists. Atheists came along saying that they had a way of think that contradicts Christianity, which therefore makes them reject it's ideas. After this a small but still sizable group of Christians began to act opposed to them. part 7
FinalStarmanDX 1 year ago
@FinalStarmanDX Excuse me but is it necessary to: Instead of make a short informative video or blog, make a series of comments effectively spamming a Christians video?
crazyinsane500 1 year ago
@crazyinsane500 I already said in the beginning that I apologize if it seems like a rant. I never expected it to get 12 comments long, I mean seriously. I usually don't have this much to back me up. Besides, at least I did something constructive and not just repeated the same waste of space 12 times. I presented facts in an attempt to make somebody rethink their opinion. As for the reason I decided not to make a video response. I just feel that my voice can not express my point correctly.
FinalStarmanDX 1 year ago
@FinalStarmanDX
^_^ this made my day. good job. VIVA LA AGNOSTIC ATHEISM!
gbohnen27 1 year ago
Karl Marx and Frederich Engels were not trying to hurt people with an atheist based government. They were trying to find a good alternative for capitalism. As an economist once said "Capitalism is the worst government ever! Yet it is the best the world has ever seen!" I see no fault in the pioneers of communism's ways. Besides, communism looks great on paper. We humans just mess it up with our natural sense of greed. Next I will discuss the "Christianity's outweighing good" part 6
FinalStarmanDX 1 year ago
The next part of my argument is to defend Marxism and all of the "sub-genres" of it (I do not believe in Marxism at all... or any government for that matter, but I have read not only the communist manifesto, but also The Wealth of Nations, the essays that founded capitalism). The point of making atheism the center of these types of governments is simply to separate religion from the state no matter what. No need for a constitutional amendment suggesting or stating it. part 5
FinalStarmanDX 1 year ago
That clears up the first part of my counter "argument" so to speak. In short Stalin was never supposed to be the leader of the Soviets! He was an insane man who manipulated the communist party to gain his position! Now as for the Nietzcheism and Hitler remark. Simply because Hitler was a believer of Nietzcheism doesn't mean it was bad! Hitler was also Hebraic and North African! Simply because of that does it mean all Hebraic and/or North African people are bad too? part 4
FinalStarmanDX 1 year ago
Yeah, Great video man! ... I mean what a compelling well constructed statement ... and only about a thousand extra dislikes over thumbs up ...... indeed, compelling
stuff : p
M0THERKN0WSBEST 1 year ago
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M0THERKN0WSBEST 1 year ago
Why are you only counting death for atrocities? What about all the bad medicine and teachings from christianity? The dark middle ages?
And the benefit from atheism would be the freedom to look at reality as it really is.
tansor36 1 year ago
Communism does not equal Atheism. You blend all secularism with Atheism in your points right? Well, if you want to do that, then you need blend all conservatism with Christianity (including Islam). See how that works?
BTW, Hitler was a baptized Catholic you blathering idiot. I'm not saying Christianity has done nothing for society but inspire death and despair, but to say that's all Atheism has contributed is monumentally ignorant.
How about... Oh I don't know? 99.9% of Modern-day science?
arkansasrazorbackfan 1 year ago
I'm still going to punch you in the face one day because you look like this guy I hate. Peace!
GodKillerAtheist 1 year ago
Why must atheism contribute to society JF?
RadarKat73080 1 year ago
When will you creationist morons stop calming that Hitler was an atheist? You only make fools of yourselves by doing so.
MomoTheBellyDancer 1 year ago
Most of the people killed by Stalin (Hitler isn't an atheist) were undoubtedly NOT killed in the name of atheism.
Bannedforfun 1 year ago
In a speech delivered in Berlin, October 24, 1933, Hitler stated: "We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out. right out of the nazis mouth...your pwnd
brian4480 1 year ago
Isn't Denmark a society filled with mostly atheists? It seems to do quite well with it, their government pay unemployment for 2 years with up to 90% of the original salary. Atheism can actually help society, and that's because it diversifies. What does Christianity contribute?
FinalStarmanDX 1 year ago
@FinalStarmanDX Erm...just because a population is predominantely atheist doesn't mean their lack of belief has anything to do with their success. And in this case it certainly doesn't apply. And Christians, inspired by their faith, contributes a fair bit in the charitable giving department,. But this, of course, is overshadowed by the demonstrable destruction is has caused to the world.
RonBurgundy161 1 year ago
@RonBurgundy161 Now before you read this I do want you to know I will continue it on in more than one post, if you believe I am ranting I apologize. Anyway. Overshadowed doesn't sound right. It sounds like the bad it does isn't that bad yet it gets intensified. I find this to be wrong. The last comment was a bit misdirected, you see, I aim to prove people like jezuz freak here wrong. Not due to religion, but the common mindset, "I want to prove other religions wrong." part 1
FinalStarmanDX 1 year ago
@RonBurgundy161 Once again, I may be ranting but I do feel that my original comment was rather misdirected, but from your constructive response I think you may not mind too much. Now, Jezuzfreak here attempts to trace atheism to many more deaths through communism and Hitler. For communism I must say a few things. First, Stalin was a possibly insane man who was beaten as a child where his rage showed even back then. When Vladimir Lenin died he said that Stalin should not be made in charge. part 2
FinalStarmanDX 1 year ago
Same thing as before, sorry if this is a rant and it isn't and at this point is is directed towards jezuzfreak as well. Despite what were pretty much Lenin's last wishes in terms of the Soviet government they still gave Stalin a seat of power in the communist party. The only other person who was directly up for being the Soviet leader was Leon Trotsky. Stalin made sure Trotsky was exiled to siberia as soon as possible, leaving him the seat of power as the leader of the Soviet Union. part 3
FinalStarmanDX 1 year ago
guess what? 78 % of people in prison claim to be christian 0.2% are claimed to be athiest.
dragondemon11 1 year ago
hitler was fascist dumbass
downwithjedward 1 year ago
Are you asserting that Atheist aren't good people and don't do good things? I guess my question is why do you need religion to do all those good things? Why do you need fear or hell to do good things? Christianity gives the weak a way to gather and unify, doesn't make it true.
dredsdomain 1 year ago
hitler wasnt a communist? under communism in general?ur an idiot
I thank Heaven that a portion of the memories of those days still remains with me. Woods and meadows were the battlefields on which the 'conflicts' which exist everywhere in life were decided.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
Menla1 1 year ago
wow good excuse. thats like a guy saying but i only killed 1 guy. look at jeffery dahmer he killed 15 people
tylenator552 1 year ago
neither communism nor nazism equate with secularism or atheism.
TKninja6 1 year ago
tHE PROBLEM IS THAT millions have been killed by atheist governments also....To me the evidence shows that the problem is collectivism (the group or mass mentallity).
People get together in a powerfull majority group and will give THEMSELVES the power to attack people that do not agree with them. .Whether Muslim , Christian OR atheist this concept of an abusive majority seems to hold true
LIBRETAVIEJA 1 year ago
You completely ignore the fact that communists killed people because of political reasons and disobedience (like your god in the bible), not even 50% of the genocide commited was of religious reasons.
Imhornydadcomeinside 1 year ago
@Imhornydadcomeinside That, and it was completely a cult of personality - they deified their leaders, essentially treating them like a religion. They also had moustaches, but I wouldn't attribute that to what they did.
KillerFridge 1 year ago
woahhhhh, Hitler was a christian. Idk if you have ever read any of his speech's but he mentions god ALOT
And 5 million... isn't that 5 million to much?
thou shall not kill?
You have NO way to compare or even try to make 5 million seem ok.
pogibija 1 year ago
@pogibija A true christian is one who tries their best to follow the bibles teachings and represents them through his or her daily life, like you said before, one of the commandments in the bible is
"Thou Shalt Not Murder."
Hitler Murdered on PURPOSE he didn't TRY not to murder those people which means he is not a true Christian. =)
pappabear2010 1 year ago
@pappabear2010 Was**
pappabear2010 1 year ago
@pappabear2010 during the dark ages Christians killed millions also. they believed to heart it was for their god that to conquer/slaughter was right, yet their bibble said "thou shall not kill" just as Hitlers did.
Doesn't matter if they are not a "true Christian", they still are still doing it for your god :] and I don't like that
pogibija 1 year ago
@pappabear2010 you are a moron if you believe that to be true. i can guarantee now that i could find hundreds of bible verses you dont follow because theyre barbaric and idiotic.
also then god is not a true christian, he murdered the entire of the human race bar 9 in the bible and killed hundreds of thousands besides that
Menla1 1 year ago
@pappabear2010 He was never claiming to be a christain...
romanblood 1 year ago
As an Athiest, I think you'll find the answer is this: Nothing.
Atheism contributes nothing to society.
I think you're confusing Atheism with a religion because you're thick.
Atheism is ONE word to describe ONE single belief: There is NO God.
Simple.
Ask this question instead: What do Atheists personally (Each and every individual person) contribute to society?
You don't know the answer to that mate.
Atheism is not a GROUP and/or RELIGION!
C7T5R 1 year ago
@C7T5R Strong atheism is the belief that there is no god. Weak atheism (the most common kind of atheism) is a lack of belief in god. Most atheists will define themselves as having a lack of belief in god.
AmbientRevolution 1 year ago
@AmbientRevolution
This has nothing to do with what I said and nothing to do with the question here.
"... belief that there is no God" & "... Lack of belief in God." is the same statement.
Unless of course you mean 'lack of trust in God' which is not an Athiest view is it?
Or maybe you mean someone isn't sure and they have a 'lack of belief in God power' but they believe he could/might exist. They just aren't sure or don't have a properly formed opinion, thus making them Agnostic, no?
C7T5R 1 year ago
@C7T5R Wikipedia "Religion is a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of life and the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a supernatural agency,[1] or human beings’ relation to that which they regard as holy, sacred, spiritual, or divine." Saying there is no God is connected to this, especially since most people are not atheists and there isn´t proof for atheism. It´s a belief sys and the prophets are fallible men like Dawkins and maybe also Charles Darwin.
heythinkaboutit 1 year ago
@heythinkaboutit incorrect.. atheism is not a belief.. it is an anti-belief. it is saying that one cannot believe something like religion without sufficient evidence.. stop reading the bible you retard
thedominator1991 1 year ago
@thedominator1991 Atheism is a belief as long as you can´t prove it.
We have to face it: No one can exist without belief: Wether it´s your belief that the religion of atheism is true which doesn´t make so much sense to me or the believe in God. Science can´t prove atheism and hints to God in many ways
(fine tuning of the universe for example) and there are many people who had interesting experiences after their baptism or after praying which can´t be explained by an atheistic worldview .
heythinkaboutit 1 year ago
Great video man. I agree with you. Christianity has contributed a lot to society and will continue to do so.
TiNeUniversal 1 year ago
Great video man. I agree with you. Christianity has contributed a lot to society and will continue to do so.
TiNeUniversal 1 year ago
3. Ben Franklin
"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches." 4. Charles Darwin "I do not believe in any revelation. As for a future life, every man must judge for himself between conflicting vague probabilities."
5.Mark Twain
One of the proofs of the immortality of the soul is that myriads have believed in it. They have also believed the world was flat.
DrDarbyDavis 1 year ago
2.Thomas Jefferson
"Question with boldness even the existence of God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." 1787 letter to his nephew
DrDarbyDavis 1 year ago
8.Never seek to censor or cut yourself off from dissent; always respect the right of others to disagree with you. 9.Form independent opinions on the basis of your own reason and experience; do not allow yourself to be led blindly by others. 10.Question everything
DrDarbyDavis 1 year ago
4.Do not overlook evil or shrink from administering justice, but always be ready to forgive wrongdoing freely admitted and honestly regretted. 5.Live life with a sense of joy and wonder 6.Always seek to be learning something new 7.Test all things; always check your ideas against the facts, and be ready to discard even a cherished belief if it does not conform to them. (2 of 3)
DrDarbyDavis 1 year ago
What Atheism Contributes to Society...
1. Dawkins
the alternative to the Ten Commandments cited by Dawkins in The God Delusion is: 1.Do not do to others what you would not want them to do to you 2.In all things, strive to cause no harm 3.Treat your fellow human beings, your fellow living things, and the world in general with love, honesty, faithfulness and respect.
(1 of 2)
DrDarbyDavis 1 year ago
What Christianity Contributes to society...
1.Randall Terry
"I want you to let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good...". "When I, or people Like me are running the country , you better flee because we will find you, we will try you, and we'll execute you. I mean every word of it. I will make it part of my mission to see to it that they are tried and executed."
DrDarbyDavis 1 year ago
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DrDarbyDavis 1 year ago
So all along I've been a communist?? Good to know.
frayed100 1 year ago
what did atheists contribute to society? pretty much all the sciences
agricola 1 year ago
also if their was no christianity the crusades never wouldve happened
cockbloker21 1 year ago
christianity put science back so far, and plus atheism hasnt been aroun 2000 years cause your christians would murder atheist
cockbloker21 1 year ago
if most Hospitals in the United States are Christian based, as you claim, why do the hospitals /HMOs deny access to medical care and healthcare to 40 million+ people a year? Why are they not helping the needy, the sick, the infirm?
DaveMartinCanuck 1 year ago
over 90% of the Scientific community
What doesn Theism offer ?
... dogma, hate, sexism, glorified ignorance and indoctrination.
DannyDzeko 1 year ago
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YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT. what the fuck has communism got to do with athiest.
TheBazarak 1 year ago
Communism doesn't equal atheism you idiot! You're mixing up politics and religion, which are actually separate entities. When Stalin and other Communist leaders killed people it was to wipe out people who were opposed to them politically, which had NOTHING to do with religion! Get a fucking education!!!!
1955RodHot 1 year ago
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xhisheroisgone 1 year ago
If a leader is christian and starts a war, thats not called christians killing people, thats a person starting a war. Now if the war was because of religion, then thats christians killing. None of the people you mentioned killed anyone in the name of atheism.
mmendes98 1 year ago
@mmendes98 ever hear of the humanist manifesto?
WanderingSeer 1 year ago
This questions is nonsense. It's like asking, "What does not believing in leprechauns contribute to society?"
DonutDazzler 1 year ago
Since atheism posits that there is no God, there is no compelling reason for atheists to engage in acts of charity. Since God is a lie-according to atheism-then doing 'good' in the name of a lie has no intrinisic meaning. Atheists might choose to do 'good' if they 'feel' like it, but there is no compelling reason for them to do so.Fortunately, the United States remains a predominantly Christian society, and faith,hope, and charity are still present here.
MrEdgarsraven9 1 year ago
@MrEdgarsraven9 People should want to perform charitable acts because they morally feel they should, not because they have been commanded by God.
PhantomPhan10 1 year ago