Thanks for your comment. I am a supporter of the `free market` , this means that failing firms ( including Banks), who are not viable should go bankrupt. If the `free market` was allowed to function without, politicians passing these `failure` Banks so much of taxpayer`s money, even when they know that this economic system will not work, the results are plain to see. We ( our Gov`ts ), are `rewarding` failure and,simultaneously punish the competent who, always get the bill. Simple economics
MMMmmm... You have missed the point! Having a `Constitutional Republic` sounds good, however, who decides the content of the Constitution ? Who will enforce that Constitution ? If 51% want to re-introduce the Death penalty in the UK and, 49% do not want it, who should prevail? I ( A supporter of Democracy), believe the 51% should supersede the 49% ! Yes, sometimes the majority are wrong, but that does not mean I want to be `ruled` by a minority . I reject the idea of an elected `ruling elite`
The us goverment is controled by the secret society if you think thats crazy look at the dollar bill the eye of lucifer is on it that is the same logo of the freemasons and illumanati. but what you dont know is that the catholic jesuit preists control the secret socity they control all the us presidents and rich us families and leaders of the corporations in the us and europe. They are breaking the world economy so they can install the pope as the anti christ. The lord jesus warned us of this
capitalism?? where? when the fed takes 28% of my earnings, state takes 5%, social security 7% (14% from employer), outrageous property taxes, 10% sales tax, over regulation of small business by gov, when we have the highest corporate taxes in the world at 35%, 50 million on food stamps, welfare, medicare, medicaid, public aid, subsidized housing, disability, unemployment, pensions, etc. etc. we have socialism, you know that ideology that you have supported for decades....
What a shame, I really doubt he has ever studied the works of the Austrian school.
No talk about the federal reserve, fractional reserve banking, fiat currency, government backing eliminating the incentive for reducing risk, programs like the Making Houses Affordable Act skewing natural supply and demand and causing bubbles?
Come on guys, no intelligent person should consider themselves educated unless they understand all competing theories.
I love how he says so dismissively: "this was combined with a kind of religious market fundamentalism which was based on doctrines of self-regulating markets.. which are pure fantasy."
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you gentiles are Pathetic Always take some jew and make him god or Messiah just like the jesus and kerl marx and know this noam chomsky did you ever wondering why is this all your biggst gods and messiah and your intellectuals from right and left are jewish and you wonder how we the jews call are self the chosen people dont diss this
comment in 100 yreas from know your kids will things that holly histroy just like your Fathers Though't d even the arebs belive in a jewish idea of god
A moneyless,classless,stateless communities of humanity expressing our freedom in creative harmonious cooperation for a world that is so POTENTIALLY AND ACTUALLY nourishing. Capitalism in any form, Statist or Corporatist is the denial of our common humanity in a politically manipulated,tyrannical armed MARKET SYSYTEM of artificial scarcity that is designed to perpetuate the enslavement of immense humanity for material interest of the criminal ruling elite.
"What are political motives? Well that means participation of the population in making decisions."
Okay Noam, that works if the populace is actually taking the time to participate in the decisions, but you and I both know that this wont happen. It would take time away from television, movies, sporting events, etc. etc. People wont take the time to read and educate themselves on a national level in any significant numbers ... and there it breaks down.
Capitalism is the Monetary bondage of humanity in a politically manipulated,armed,tyrannical MARKET MECHANISM of alienation,exploitation and suffering. The Business as usual is the negation of our common humanity in cooperation and harmony to take care of our real needs and well being. Capitalism dominated by Corporate criminals or State dictators is the abstract process of Capital accumulation and concentration. Profit system is a destructive and dehumansing minority imposition.
We are in trouble... America... We are in TROUBLE... this guy cannot fix it. Do you understand it?
Dem party needs Regan. these clowns are lacking. Less Gov. We need economic grouth. You defeat every person with a D next to there name.. meaning Democrat.
The fundamental principle that we need to grapple with is this , Humanity cannot be treated as batteries of energy so a few can enrich and empower themselves the consequence is a world of war,poverty,exploitation,enviornmental destruction and many other terrible ongoing challenges, or We share the earth for all generations to come in harmony and cooperation for our material and emotional needs, We need to understand our common source and our common destiny.
@arzoyan exactly. the rich, productive and creative people should not be used as dairy cows to fund and subsidize the luxuries of the irresponsible, unproductive people of society. help the destitute and let everyone else earn their keep. no complaining!
@arzoyan i own myself and my own labor. i sell it for whatever the market will pay for it. stop petitioning the state to steal the hard earned wealth of others so you can sit back and feel good about yourself. left wing deficit spending economic illiterate.
@chrispollock A moneyless,classless,STATELESS world of human communities where we cooperate to take care of our needs and well being. Capitalism is the MARKET MEHANISM of artificial scarcity and employment system of wage slavey for the abstract process of CAPITAL ACUUMULATION and CONCENTRATION for the ruling elite.
@arzoyan i work for hard working people who earn their wealth and don't ask for government handouts. leftists, on the other hand, are the thieves; they want the government to subsidize their lifestyles using my hard earned wealth and call it "fair". leftists are the enemies of a society of earning and merit.
@chrispollock Free and Market is a contradiction in terms, the ruling elite over centuries have conditioned the majority for servitude. The language we are using is the life-blood of the ideological manipulations and distortions of our social reality for wage slavery . The MARKET MEHANISM of artificial scarcity cannot be reformed for the interest of vast majority. We need to SHARE THE EARTH IN COOPERATION FOR OUR COMMON NEEDS AND WELL BEING, a moneyless,classless,stateless world of harmony
@arzoyan in a system of voluntary exchange there is no servitude. the left wing hates a society based on merit, earning and freedom. so they try to get government to create a society based on theft, centralized corruption and moral elitism. if you are calling for communist or socialist utopia, it has always failed, time and again. capitalism, meanwhile, for all its imperfections, keeps people fed, clothed and happy better than anything else ever imagined.
@FukCommando capitalism keeps them fed better than any other system. the majority of people are able to afford food, even if they suck at managing money. the abundance of food available to the average person is nowhere greater than in an industrialized capitalist economy where merit and productivity, not political power, determines your access to resources.
set people free wiht education and technology. if every person can create their own infrastructure then they have no need for government outside of a few small roles (in my opinion, the ones explicitly delineated in the abandoned/distorted US constitution)
Capitalism is the process of the denial and limit to our common humanity in a web of monetary alienation,distortions,control,exploitation and deception to an outdated structrual minority imposition of CLASS RULE. Quantum physics, scientific insight is systematically revealing the enormous potential for mankind to transcend the false limits of current impasse. A majority democratic conscious movement to share the EARTH in COOPERATION for our common needs and well being is the UNIFICATION.
How can this clown say SS is in good shape when we no longer pay for our own reitirment but someone else who is currently reitred? we have more people taking from it then paying into it, and he thinks its just fine and dandy.
@GnomesAmok You're wrong about that my friend. There is no surplus. There is no Social Security trust fund. That money was raided and spent long ago. The only thing sitting in that account is an I.O.U. in the form of bonds. Why else did Obama threaten to cut SS payments if he couldn't raise the debt celing? Because unless he can continue to borrow more money, they cannot make the payment.
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Look, each city across America has a unique situation. Here in Lexington, KY, there are no jobs, or there is an great deal of employment discrimination going on. I have applied to about 30 jobs or more, and nothing....one interview.....went great....top 2 candidates.,....I was told I was not a good culture fit.......is that discrimination or what? um hum..
This county is on its way to dictatorship, I feel it, and I am sure I am not the only one that feels it / a forced society. scary
We live in an `Elected dictatorship`, Democracy is a `Dictatorship`, of the majority of the citizens. We must stop electing people to `Rule` our lives, a parliament should only have the `Right`to pass a Bill, which must then go to the citizens in a referendum; if the people reject the bill,then it doesn`t happen! The US needs another `citizens` revolution! We must get rid of the `Garbage` that `Rules` us.
@terrygand The Arabs are trying to do it. Obviously, we Americans are a bunch of morons & cowards. The political Parties are corrupt. Americans are controlled & ruled by corporate owners. The "President" is nothing but a mouthpiece for billionares. His purpose is to APPEAR to care for Americans, & by doing so, to fool Americans. America will remain in the hands of the rich, & its people will only "get dumber" than they already are. Americans are simply too stupid to understand the truth.
@terrygand no, democracy in this country is a dictatorship by those few special interest groups that can pay millions to lobby what gets put on the riders, pork barrel and earmarks, propositions, and funds for political candidates.
@mukfay Really? I can tell you sir/madam, I regularly read/write & make decisions;as I am certainly not illiterate. I sometimes make "the wrong" decision but, that does not mean that I want other people to make those decisions for me. It`s time people started to "Think" for themselves & not let "Others" make decisions on their behalf. The confederation of Switzerland has referendum on "many" issues. We should stop deluding ourselves!
@terrygand I agree with much of your analysis. What part of my message implied that you're illiterate? I'm not sure why "many" is in quotes, but my point was that with the volume of bills that pass through the US Congress, it would not be practical for voters to research each and every bill thoroughly enough to make an informed decision.
I too am literate. I too regularly read, write, and make decision. I didn't say "many" I said all, and I stand by that. Hence the need for a Republic.
@terrygand A Republic with an informed, involved electorate. The acidic nature of your response (the instant instinct to go on the offensive) contributes a great deal to the dynamic which inhibits the education and sharing of information on the internet and in other venues. I prefer and calmer approach which allows for education and persuasion. Since you seem to be willing to do the work to become informed, I salute you. Please apply that to encourage rather than inciting.
@mukfay If I caused you any offence sir/madam, I do apologize! I have recently seen ( on TV) , a US politician in an interview say that they ( politicians), do not actually read the bills that are voted on! I wonder why? Could it be that they can`t be bothered? Or perhaps they just don`t care ! And many people wonder why we are in such a mess. You will have to excuse my grammar, English is not my first language
@terrygand I'm not offended. I just think you have something valuable to offer here. Yes, they do vote on bills they haven't read, and yes, sometimes they can't be bothered. Often it's because the bill is so large, and there is so little time, that it's physically impossible to read the bill before it is time to vote on it. Not only that, things are sometimes hand-written into the margins of the pages of the bill just before the vote.
@terrygand It's disgusting, but it takes will on the part of the people to fight these practices, and the will has been drained utterly by entertainment, and addiction to "stuff," which costs money (or time in the sense that people have to work long hours to buy the stuff they think they need. It's a damned shame. However, I have a theory that had people in other countries been raised here in the US, they would react in a similar fashion. You needn't excuse yourself for your grammar. It's fine.
@mukfay Thank you for your response! I now believe that our current economic system & our legislative system, is coming to it`s end. In the Internet age, how can we elect a few hundred people who make a list of promises that they rarely keep after the election ? we get the usual excuses about why we must wait a `bit longer` & everything will be just great. Today in the UK we have a credit card economy, & nobody cares! Our debts are reducing us to a "second rate" state. Let`s all pretend!
@terrygand This is the kind of stuff everyone should be talking about -- not which Republican will win the nomination. No candidate with a chance of winning in 2012 is what this country needs.
@omegadisasterman mmmmm...... Really? I suggest that the US is a Republic and not a "Democratic Republic" . If the citizens vote for a particular political party,who have the right to make the law; without asking for the `vox pop", then that is not my idea of a Democracy. We (that includes my country,UK), are still electing people who have the right to `rule over us`,without asking us for our permission about each individual change to our national law. I am a Citizen, not a `Subject` !
@terrygand democracy is rule by the mob, power of the 51 to bully the 49, rule by the greatest number over the few. constitutional republic is the only thing that truly protects freedom of individuals from the whims of the majority.
notice that chomsky completely ignores the fact that government regulation created false economic indicators, thus leading to unsustainable growth in the housing market, and forced lenders to act irresponsibly through "affordable housing" initiatives. if people could afford their mortgages, none of this would have happened. the market is quite efficient at weeding out things that don't work. but chomsky is a leftist, so there you go.
@terrygand The simplest revolution is: stop shopping. Not demonstrating, going on strike, or voting will do the trick. By shopping the masses have created a New Nobility. other than Kings, Dukes, or Barons. Today they are called differently. The French had to attack the Bastille, and kill their suppressors. Americans just have to stop shopping.
youtube is rife with radical revolutionary marxists ... we need to stop this - we need to kill assange who is an international terrorist who's unmitigated evils have deservadely earned him a similar reputation to osama bin laden, whilst embarking upon this task we should also purge the world of any other leftwards leaning individuals and probably re-elect a solid republican like nixon or bush. Thanks guys, stay christian, chaste and conservative :)
Yep. and someone made a trip to Africa where sick people are not tolerated, and they are put aside to die. Somebody, whether R or D, will have to do something. God, doe the President not know that there are people suffering right under neath his nose? What is he doing to help? I am so sick and tired of him ordering aide to other countries, when I need help right here in America. If he wants to be a president of another country ,then he should go to another country.
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FDR vs. Hitler. Both took power/office 1933 their countries unemployed 25-30%. 6-8 years later Germany rate 2% USA still 20%. Who was better leader? How? Hitler threw off International Bankers. They still hate & vilify him to this day like he had no good qualities
The monetary serfdom of immense humanity to an outdated,dehumanising,destructive MARKET SYSTEM OF ARTIFICIAL SCARCITY is the template of the suffering of our common humanity . Divinity is SHARING OUR PLANET FOR OUR COMMMON NEEDS AND WELL BEING in harmony within and without. All metaphysical, piecemeal tinkering with COMMMODITIFICATION of our energies is doomed to fail. Only a democratic majority working class movement for a MONEYLESS,CLASSLESS,STATELESS communities of humanity is the option
Libertarians of the present day are accustomed to think of socialism as the polar opposite of the libertarian creed. But this is a grave mistake, responsible for a severe ideological disorientation of libertarians in the present world. As we have seen, Conservatism was the polar opposite of liberty; and socialism, while to the “left” of conservatism, was essentially a confused, middle-of-the-road movement.
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it tries to achieve Liberal ends by the use of Conservative means.
To clarify, the book is "23 Things They Don't Tell You About Capitalism" by Ha-joon Chang.
Another important book is Adam Smith's "Wealth of Nations", largely considered to be the prime text of capitalist theory. Quite a good read, too, considering there are MANY arguments against capitalist market competition, wage labor, and joint-stock companies (analogous to modern corporations) in the very book supposedly supporting capitalism.
@buddinganarchist that is such a bad bad book IMO. it is filled with so many fallacies, i don't know where to begin. read 'economics in one lesson' by henry Hazlitt.. read the reviews on amazon. after reading, you will know what i mean.
The Rothschilds are enslaving the People of the US via the fraudulent criminal conspiracy known as the illegal, unConstitutional Federal Reserve. The entire US government is now simply a puppet of the Rothschild banking dynasty.
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Every political candidate must be evaluated based upon this single all telling crucial issue. You are either with the People or you are with the Rothschilds and their agents, the international bankers.
@JakeMansonNYC How so? I would argue that the deregulation of financial institutions is directly responsible for the '08 financial crisis, and deregulation combined with lack of oversight will be responsible for the next.
For those who are confused about all the political interpretations and mud-flinging you are likely to find on forums.
read classics from every perspective.
communist manifesto, leviathan, the republic, economics in one lesson, the law.. etc.
however, that said, i oppose almost everything Chomsky said, i don't even know where to start. i believe he has fallen for some very important economics fallacies.
he is trying to pin economic instability on markets, not government.
@CytherLynx You're turning conditionality on it's head, as if it is government which is largely responsible for policy. The very people in government would not be there if not for the massive support and financing of campaigns by corporate capitalist funding. To paraphrase Smith himself, a laissez-faire economy would quickly turn into a conspiracy of business and industry against consumer, scheming to influence politics and legislation. That's Adam Smith, you know, that notorious commie.
@rtnslnd i have actually read 'the wealth of nations', but you've lumped me into one catagory of 'capitalists' it seems. i don't support most of adams ideas.
this massive push for selfish interests, via lobbying occurs because they are sucessful a lot of the time. And they are successful because people cannot possibly review the thousands of legislation put forth by both sides (they're both corrupt)
all i can say is read 'economics in one lesson' short and excellent book that deals with this
Lol I've read Hayek and Rothbard before, I really am not compelled to read them again via Hazlitt. The issue is whether their economic models fit with human behavior. They do not. Humans are predictably irrational, and their only rebuttal is that we act "as if" we follow the rationalist economic model, even if agents do not use rational models in their everyday lives. Behavioral economics is far more accurate on how humans behave regarding economics.
@rtnslnd no, you've got it all wrong. Economics isn't just about predicting behavior. As Hume, Weber, etc has explained, the social sciences cannot be treated like the natural sciences because of the fact-value distinction.
even if Austrian economics did not lead to the most wealth, i'd still support it 100% !
why? Because it's also about the rights of the individual.
@rtnslnd and that being said. hazlitt book fully takes into account people's irrational behaviour. It isactually the Austrian school that gets this, and neo-classical that don't. it is highly ironic that you attack with that criticism
behavioural economics on the other hand has limited usages. human behaviour is complex & unpredictable. individuals randomly affect macro trends all the time. on top of this, behavioural economics can NEVER explain ethics or rights.
@CytherLynx And yeah, I know NOTHING. Absolutely nothing. That's why I'm able to respond on youtube comments. That's how I can speak. That's how I can comment on economics in any manner, even if I'm wrong. It's cuz I know NOTHING. The scope of your comment is ridiculously inaccurate, and makes it evident that you have not taken a class in philosophy (or did not pay attention), which is absolutely pivotal to critical thinking skills.
I'm not gonna argue with somebody that has no standards. G'day
@rtnslnd AND on top of this, you say "The issue is whether their economic models fit with human behavior. They do not."
The Austrian school does not develop models of behaviour! you've attacked something that doesn't exist, a testament to your lack of understanding.
A/E understand that individual choice is unpredictable, and the only thing that can be done is treat it for what it is, a social science, and thus use the right methodology unlike neo-classical theory and B/E.
@rtnslnd It's amazing what you've said, because it is so self refuting and inane.
where you say Austrian economics fails, is actually what Austrian economics criticises of other economic schools.
and then what you claim B/E as a solution. it is the exact school of economics that falls for this error of not understanding complex human individuality.
it is like me criticising the catholic church for being unscientific, and then saying the need the see the Darwinian light of god.
@CytherLynx Right. Psychology (which is what behavioral economics is based on) is not relevant to human behavior, but complex mathematical models are.
You're really grasping at straws there.
I did not say the Austrian school developed models of behavior. I said the Austrian schools developed mathematical models about how we supposedly act as if we were rational agents, and it fails to take into account that actual human behavior is not reflected in these models.
@CytherLynx You're right, I was confusing the Chicago school with the Austrian school.
However, Mises said of the Austrian method: "its statements and propositions are not derived from experience... They are not subject to verification or falsification on the ground of experience and facts."
Friedman: "The Hayek-Mises explanation of the business cycle is contradicted by the evidence. It is, I believe, false."
I don't see a whole lot of consistency among Austrian supporters.
@rtnslnd the business cycle has been confirmed time and time again. it is no coincidence that the majority of the people who predicted the economic crisis were Austrians, that understood the business cycle.
Freidman wasn't an Austrian economics supporter. he supported the neo-classical methodology, which i believe is wrong.
@CytherLynx You are making the same argument against behavioral economics that the rational choice supporters use, that it has "limited applications". I fail to see how that's even remotely true, as one of the prime tenets of behavioral economics is the concept that economic agents are subject to cognitive bias in their market interactions, thru limited access to information. Therefore their market interactions are guided by rules of thumb, not necessarily strict logic. Seems applicable to me.
@rtnslnd its also good to remember that the marginalist revolution occurred in the 1870s, overturning Adam smiths ideas as surely as Einstein overturned Newtons theory. there's been many other changes since, and thus the wealth of nations is best read as a historical book.
Thanks for trying but you don't understand Nigger rich economics
Its hard to respect anyone who cannot or will not prove legally they are a citizen. Respect is not something you get, it has to be earned, and I have no respect for people who do not earn it and want to try to take it and if you don't listen to main street media you are uninformed, if you do, you are misinformed.
Capitalism is the wage slavery of immense humanity in a politically corrupt,manipulated MARKET SYSTEM OF ARTIFICIAL SCARCITY ,a tyrannical,destructive system to perpetuate poverty and exploitation in the interest of the ruling class. Capitalism from its genocide of the native Americans,mercantile plundering and enslavement of African natives to its Millitaristic rise of European Powers to World wars and Financial serfdom of the world has been a DISASTEROUS imposition of minority rule.
This analysis is now know to be wrong. We now know that those controlling the American government orchestrated the financial collapse so that they could obtain three trillion dollars from the goverment. The latest is that it is the big bankers from Wall street (like the Rockerfeller's who own J.P.Morgan) that are responsible.
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Truly free market advocates would completely disagree with Chomsky's premise here. His premise is that free market fundamentalism has been the status quo. When in fact, what we've been enduring is "crony capitalism". Free market capitalism implies RISK. Where is the RISK for federal government-subsidized financial institutions? Where is the RISK when failure just means you'll get a bailout from the "lender of last resort"?
continued- So yes, Chomsky is correct when he says "risk taking is underpriced", of course it is when a business knows it can reap all the profits but not worry about the penalties of its actions. No, those penalties are given to the American people to bear, those are the "externalities".
continued- This form of capitalism is not "free market" or "self-regulating markets"; placing all the blame for our current economic problems on these ideas is intellectual dishonesty, the kind of which you don't expect from a distinguished linguistics professor.
The fundamental principle that we need to grapple with is this , Humanity cannot be treated as batteries of energy so a few can enrich and empower themselves the consequence is a world of war,poverty,exploitation,enviornmental destruction and many other terrible ongoing challenges, or We share the earth for all generations to come in harmony and cooperation for our material and emotional needs, We need to understand our common source and our common destiny , our common humanity as one
Primary residence, food, and utilities must be profit-free. Otherwise, whatever workers profit, will be snapped up by these necessities, and workers have nothing to spend to help boost business. No money = no business.
How can you talk about market fundamentalism when the biggest culprits (and among the biggest loosers) were freddie and fannie - government-sponsored enterprises?
The most vital of those would be cutting employee salaries, which make up 75 to 80 percent of the city’s expenses, Cain said.
“The current salary structure is unsustainable,” Cain said, adding that city employees make an average of more than $100,000 a year in salaries and benefits. “The salaries are out of whack with the private sector...You can’t run a city on those numbers.”
Its like we are in a parental rebellion, having continuous examples of their dislike of us, but needing the elusive final straw to form our final judgment. Wake up America, your under attack on several fronts and yet you are unable to regain your god given rights to rule your own house. Of the people for the people has been hijacked by the self intersted rule of the elite.
@stickitupyourasteric "If only we could have a completely socialized system!" they say, even while the failure of government is all around them, and examples of that type of government have been proven to be much worse than the opposite.
@stickitupyourasteric Yes America is still like a teenager, it hasn't matured. A mature, grown up America is one that is FREE- not still relying on some authority to take care of them from cradle to grave, and then complaining about the inevitable inefficiencies and corruption that result because of it. People like Chomsky think that we need more of that authority.
What a bunch of garbage. America is like it is because of the relations between politicians and corporations. Republicans love government, when it makes them tons of money and furthers their agenda. Dems are corporate whores too, just in a different way.
What we need is campaign finance reform and a few other things.
@refuckulate420 I think that's half of it. The other half is the relations of production between the owners of industry (capitalists) and the producers within industry (workers). As long as workers remain in a subservient role, and do not free themselves from the shackles of state-capitalism, no amount of reform will truly free us. It has long been known that business dictates state policy, regardless of who is in power or how much "democracy" we have. True democracy is direct democracy.
@refuckulate420 From the European Mecantile Capitalism of genocidal killings of AMERICANS ,African ENSLAVEMENT and horrors of colonisation and domination to GLOBAL FINANCIAL MAFIA backed by latest KILLING MACHINES, WORLD CAPITALISM is the MARKET SYSTEM OF ARTIFICIAL SCARCITY, distortions and WAGE SLAVERY OF THE WORKING CLASS IN THE INTEREST OF THE CRIMINAL RULING CLASS.
A classless,monyless,stateless communities of humanity in cooperation to take care of our needs and well being , expressing our creative energies in freedom of being. Capitalism is the manipulation of resources and technology for the private gain of a few in a monetary system that enslaves immense humanity in wage slavery of useless employment system that dehumanises and denies our human creative potential for a world of harmony within and without.
Self-regulating markets are fantasy? Ha! Chomsky's understanding of economics is fantasy! Don't get me wrong, Chomsky is extremely intelligent and is excellent on foreign policy but he has no idea what he is talking about when it comes to economics.
@heartlessvietboy That would end up being a limit on corporate (private) profits, essentially. That would require a revolution, as it would effectively end speculation and likely democratize fascist corporations. Probably not in our lifetimes.
We are not limiting profits of those making too much money, they can make however money they want. What we are doing is taxing because they are taking all the resources and all it takes is for us to pass a legislation.
Sometimes in life, there is no pleasing everybody. When one harms the system, that one must listen for the good of humanity even when they argue that they are free human beings and can do whatever they want.
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The self regulating market would charge higher interest. This why money would cost more, GS, homenbuyers, business would not take those risks due to cost of money. The FED caused this, not the free market. If rates were allowed to be set by the market, the market would not have lent money at 2% for NIJIA loans. Truly free markets regulate, markets that are not free like the ones run by the FED lead to distortions and bubbles.
@nmud externalities still aren't covered. there were bubbles and booms even during times when the government simply couldnt regulate effectively even if it tried such as the 19th century. markets work in certain cases, but not it others. they're also so short term based that the future can be sacrificed such as with the environment. you could argue that markets could fix the environment, but that misses the point that they destroy the environment in the first place. why not try to prevent such?
@lamaya43 Im a asshole 24-7, at work, shopping, baseball games, at home. Im a proffessional asshole. If I was to die tomorrow my wife would say he was good at being an asshole and that was it.
@LongliveSnak2e The only Jews that are true children of Israel are Sephardic, so if you're Ashkenazi chances are you are a gentile that has been lied to.
Wanna know what really funny they couldnt pay it back now anyway as they've blown it on themselves, and done a nice little runner with the peoples money!
I quiet like stats you know. Did you know America accounts for around 5% of the worlds population- Yet America consumes around 50% off all the petrol(oil) on the market.
Leaving everyone else the other 95% of the world population to consume the other 50%.
If america stopped using oil- then limited world reserves would have a life span twice as long as they currently are!
And they do all of that by borrowing all the money to do so!
Just thinking actually that I read back in 1999 I think might have been slightly later 2000 or 2002. That the america sercurity stratgy for the future, an nsa report I believe, stated that in the future america would look to the military to enforce and protect it's position in this world.
So looking at that the idea about America dumping the dollar in the future and impoverishing many- many would be annoyed about it, and no doubt would think they'll never do that I could....
It could mean war, yet in a situation where america has borrowed to build it's military up, and seeks to use that military to protect its position.
and where many of the people(countries) upset probably wouldn't have the funds needed for war or their funds would be highly limited, as a result of the dollar dumping- The army becomes the ace in the whole in getting the world to except it- after the fact
Is there a way to force America to keep the dollar? and so pay their debts
How do banks make so much money by doing nothing more than swindling people? They don't produce anything that we can export out of the country for profit like farmers or auto manufacturers do, yet they make more money than all of them. Banks basically make their riches taking advantage of the workers who make up the backbone of this nation. The farmers, the manufacturers, the SOLDIERS.. The ones who actually produce something and help the economy are being bled dry by these heinous banks.
Our progressive evolution is dependent upon the collapse of our current society with the opportunity of rebuilding a new world based on sustainable foundation that is in harmony with the planet.. Only with complete transparancy wiil we be able to chart a more viable future for humanity. Quantum physics emphasizes a fundamental truth the" observer creates the world". Once we share the planet as ONE HUMAN COMMUNITY IN COOPERATION can the entire population make history consciously
A moneyless,classless,stateless communities of humanity expressing our freedom in creative harmonious cooperation for a world that is so POTENTIALLY AND ACTUALLY nourishing. Capitalism in any form, Statist or Corporatist is the denial of our common humanity in a politically manipulated,tyrannical armed MARKET SYSYTEM of artificial scarcity that is designed to perpetuate the enslavement of immense humanity for material interest of the criminal ruling elite
Capitalism is the historic evolution of private property relationship of alienation,exploitation and suffering of humanity in a modality of commodity production for abstract process of capital accumulation and concentration . A system of wage slavery in a employment system of suppression and dehumanistion. We need to transcend this false limits to our creative cooperative energies for a moneyless,classless,stateless communities of humanity expressing our energies in freedom of being.
Why is Chomsky talking about democracy? I heard at another conference say: "America is not a democracy, and was never intended to be". Chomsky said that America was a "Polyarchy"- a system were the sole purpose of society is to maintain the power of the elite. He said the same families that were rich 200 years ago are the same families that are rich today.
He talks about democracy- as it's Rich fascism(tyranny) or tyranny of the richest, verse democracy.
Understand that america isnt a democracy- america is not run by the government- america is run, by the banking corporations and other corporations- they make the decisions, and they are not elected by the people nor do they work for the people or in the peoples interest!
America is not a democracy- and with the crisis they corporations have weakened the sham-democracy even more
It is to say that America is not a democracy yet the elected people in office still have some things they can do, very little yet some-they can change laws, and spend some of the tax as they want to, they can raise tax or reduce it.
Corporations with the crisis are attacking more and more the state- and so, taking away the very little things the democratically elected can do.
Understand that, as the government has bailed out the banks public finances are crippled- therefore the government has to bring in spending.
this means that things that government was running are now cut and will either no longer be done or will be taken over by private interests- you guessed it the corporations- will take them over!
What little democractic powers the elected have reduced and the corporates power increased!
notice also that in a free market ecconomy the government should not be bailing out the banks at all- they should have been allowed to fail all of them. Other smaller banks would have taken over, that's the free market- that's how it works.
Winners and losers all the banks that are up top today should not be there:- They are not capitalists these people- they do not believe in the free market!
understand that america is not a democracy no negative freedom country is: What you have is seudo-democracy where the elected Mps- have more or less ability to act- and we are moving into a situation where the elected Mps of the future will not be able to do anything really.
Ergo the total death of democracy- although some would say it's already dead- I am inclined to agree. because truly policy is set by the system ergo the corporations not the elected- none work in....
Thanks for your comment. I am a supporter of the `free market` , this means that failing firms ( including Banks), who are not viable should go bankrupt. If the `free market` was allowed to function without, politicians passing these `failure` Banks so much of taxpayer`s money, even when they know that this economic system will not work, the results are plain to see. We ( our Gov`ts ), are `rewarding` failure and,simultaneously punish the competent who, always get the bill. Simple economics
terrygand 3 months ago
MMMmmm... You have missed the point! Having a `Constitutional Republic` sounds good, however, who decides the content of the Constitution ? Who will enforce that Constitution ? If 51% want to re-introduce the Death penalty in the UK and, 49% do not want it, who should prevail? I ( A supporter of Democracy), believe the 51% should supersede the 49% ! Yes, sometimes the majority are wrong, but that does not mean I want to be `ruled` by a minority . I reject the idea of an elected `ruling elite`
terrygand 3 months ago
The us goverment is controled by the secret society if you think thats crazy look at the dollar bill the eye of lucifer is on it that is the same logo of the freemasons and illumanati. but what you dont know is that the catholic jesuit preists control the secret socity they control all the us presidents and rich us families and leaders of the corporations in the us and europe. They are breaking the world economy so they can install the pope as the anti christ. The lord jesus warned us of this
vladimirkovalski 3 months ago
capitalism?? where? when the fed takes 28% of my earnings, state takes 5%, social security 7% (14% from employer), outrageous property taxes, 10% sales tax, over regulation of small business by gov, when we have the highest corporate taxes in the world at 35%, 50 million on food stamps, welfare, medicare, medicaid, public aid, subsidized housing, disability, unemployment, pensions, etc. etc. we have socialism, you know that ideology that you have supported for decades....
oriasj 3 months ago in playlist Capitalism Fail
Ooh, Chomsky is a Keynesian.
What a shame, I really doubt he has ever studied the works of the Austrian school.
No talk about the federal reserve, fractional reserve banking, fiat currency, government backing eliminating the incentive for reducing risk, programs like the Making Houses Affordable Act skewing natural supply and demand and causing bubbles?
Come on guys, no intelligent person should consider themselves educated unless they understand all competing theories.
Bukujutsu 3 months ago
I love how he says so dismissively: "this was combined with a kind of religious market fundamentalism which was based on doctrines of self-regulating markets.. which are pure fantasy."
raveninaforest 3 months ago
You need defend you self against the goverment, Preservation of the security of the Nation from its enemies, foreign and domestic, Take action so we dont have a new holucust like war world 2
MrRodde76 3 months ago
you gentiles are Pathetic Always take some jew and make him god or Messiah just like the jesus and kerl marx and know this noam chomsky did you ever wondering why is this all your biggst gods and messiah and your intellectuals from right and left are jewish and you wonder how we the jews call are self the chosen people dont diss this
comment in 100 yreas from know your kids will things that holly histroy just like your Fathers Though't d even the arebs belive in a jewish idea of god
ehudnold9 6 months ago
@ehudnold9 Preach it brother!
mojorhythm 5 months ago
A moneyless,classless,stateless communities of humanity expressing our freedom in creative harmonious cooperation for a world that is so POTENTIALLY AND ACTUALLY nourishing. Capitalism in any form, Statist or Corporatist is the denial of our common humanity in a politically manipulated,tyrannical armed MARKET SYSYTEM of artificial scarcity that is designed to perpetuate the enslavement of immense humanity for material interest of the criminal ruling elite.
arzoyan 6 months ago 2
"What are political motives? Well that means participation of the population in making decisions."
Okay Noam, that works if the populace is actually taking the time to participate in the decisions, but you and I both know that this wont happen. It would take time away from television, movies, sporting events, etc. etc. People wont take the time to read and educate themselves on a national level in any significant numbers ... and there it breaks down.
mukfay 6 months ago
Real News is Leftist garbage. Chomsky is a hilarious old anarchist buffoon, who lives to hear his own impotent and contradictory trumpeting.
ConservativeAnthem 6 months ago
@ConservativeAnthem I'm just beginning to study his work. Could you cite where he supports anarchy and where he contradicts himself please?
mukfay 6 months ago
Chomsky is a neo-communist. Thumbs down.
If entrepreneurs had to take into account the externalities of EVERY action, NOTHING would get done. Ridiculous argument Chomsky...
soapyshoe 6 months ago
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Capitalism is the Monetary bondage of humanity in a politically manipulated,armed,tyrannical MARKET MECHANISM of alienation,exploitation and suffering. The Business as usual is the negation of our common humanity in cooperation and harmony to take care of our real needs and well being. Capitalism dominated by Corporate criminals or State dictators is the abstract process of Capital accumulation and concentration. Profit system is a destructive and dehumansing minority imposition.
arzoyan 7 months ago
We are in trouble... America... We are in TROUBLE... this guy cannot fix it. Do you understand it?
Dem party needs Regan. these clowns are lacking. Less Gov. We need economic grouth. You defeat every person with a D next to there name.. meaning Democrat.
onstageagain 8 months ago
@onstageagain we are in trouble because some people can not spell............
AbramCortinas 6 months ago
The fundamental principle that we need to grapple with is this , Humanity cannot be treated as batteries of energy so a few can enrich and empower themselves the consequence is a world of war,poverty,exploitation,enviornmental destruction and many other terrible ongoing challenges, or We share the earth for all generations to come in harmony and cooperation for our material and emotional needs, We need to understand our common source and our common destiny.
arzoyan 8 months ago 12
@arzoyan exactly. the rich, productive and creative people should not be used as dairy cows to fund and subsidize the luxuries of the irresponsible, unproductive people of society. help the destitute and let everyone else earn their keep. no complaining!
chrispollock 3 months ago
@chrispollock You are barking for your criminal OWNERS,.
arzoyan 3 months ago 2
@arzoyan i own myself and my own labor. i sell it for whatever the market will pay for it. stop petitioning the state to steal the hard earned wealth of others so you can sit back and feel good about yourself. left wing deficit spending economic illiterate.
chrispollock 2 months ago
@chrispollock A moneyless,classless,STATELESS world of human communities where we cooperate to take care of our needs and well being. Capitalism is the MARKET MEHANISM of artificial scarcity and employment system of wage slavey for the abstract process of CAPITAL ACUUMULATION and CONCENTRATION for the ruling elite.
arzoyan 2 months ago 4
@arzoyan leftists: lovers of corrupt government monopolies, moral elitism, and theft of hard earned wealth.
chrispollock 2 months ago
@chrispollock you are working for thieves.
arzoyan 2 months ago
@arzoyan i work for hard working people who earn their wealth and don't ask for government handouts. leftists, on the other hand, are the thieves; they want the government to subsidize their lifestyles using my hard earned wealth and call it "fair". leftists are the enemies of a society of earning and merit.
chrispollock 2 months ago
@chrispollock Free and Market is a contradiction in terms, the ruling elite over centuries have conditioned the majority for servitude. The language we are using is the life-blood of the ideological manipulations and distortions of our social reality for wage slavery . The MARKET MEHANISM of artificial scarcity cannot be reformed for the interest of vast majority. We need to SHARE THE EARTH IN COOPERATION FOR OUR COMMON NEEDS AND WELL BEING, a moneyless,classless,stateless world of harmony
arzoyan 2 months ago 2
@arzoyan in a system of voluntary exchange there is no servitude. the left wing hates a society based on merit, earning and freedom. so they try to get government to create a society based on theft, centralized corruption and moral elitism. if you are calling for communist or socialist utopia, it has always failed, time and again. capitalism, meanwhile, for all its imperfections, keeps people fed, clothed and happy better than anything else ever imagined.
chrispollock 2 months ago
@chrispollock capitalism keeps people fed? lol you live in the richest "capitalist" country in the world, ever heard of food stamps?
FukCommando 2 months ago
@FukCommando capitalism keeps them fed better than any other system. the majority of people are able to afford food, even if they suck at managing money. the abundance of food available to the average person is nowhere greater than in an industrialized capitalist economy where merit and productivity, not political power, determines your access to resources.
chrispollock 4 weeks ago
@arzoyan the matrix has many
set people free wiht education and technology. if every person can create their own infrastructure then they have no need for government outside of a few small roles (in my opinion, the ones explicitly delineated in the abandoned/distorted US constitution)
valeo626 6 days ago
Chomsky is so clueless. Social security is a PONZI scheme and the financial system is in the S&*tter specifially b/c of government interference.
kotash2 8 months ago
@kotash2 ain't that the truth
weavermama 6 months ago
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Capitalism is the process of the denial and limit to our common humanity in a web of monetary alienation,distortions,control,exploitation and deception to an outdated structrual minority imposition of CLASS RULE. Quantum physics, scientific insight is systematically revealing the enormous potential for mankind to transcend the false limits of current impasse. A majority democratic conscious movement to share the EARTH in COOPERATION for our common needs and well being is the UNIFICATION.
arzoyan 8 months ago 6
How can this clown say SS is in good shape when we no longer pay for our own reitirment but someone else who is currently reitred? we have more people taking from it then paying into it, and he thinks its just fine and dandy.
achilles6822 8 months ago
@achilles6822
simple answer: social security: 2.6 trillion dollar surplus.
GnomesAmok 6 months ago
@GnomesAmok You're wrong about that my friend. There is no surplus. There is no Social Security trust fund. That money was raided and spent long ago. The only thing sitting in that account is an I.O.U. in the form of bonds. Why else did Obama threaten to cut SS payments if he couldn't raise the debt celing? Because unless he can continue to borrow more money, they cannot make the payment.
UponInfinity 4 months ago
... There is ONE SOLUTION to ALL Problems, and that is a SCIENTIFIC MONEYLESS CONSUMER-BASED ECONOMY that will build IDEAL PRIVATE SOVEREIGN CITIZEN-OWNED CITIES that will be Whole, Durable, Organic, Self Sufficient, Energy Efficient, Petroleum and Automobile Liberated, and Population Limited, as recommended by the builders of The Great Pyramid.
… For details, see the classic YOUTUBE Videos: The Great Pyramid, why was it built - Lesson 1c, and Lessons 3,4
… Please note, bankster Chomski.
CivilizedMan444 9 months ago
@CivilizedMan444 Let me guess: Zeitard?
TheGoldenKing20 6 months ago
Look, each city across America has a unique situation. Here in Lexington, KY, there are no jobs, or there is an great deal of employment discrimination going on. I have applied to about 30 jobs or more, and nothing....one interview.....went great....top 2 candidates.,....I was told I was not a good culture fit.......is that discrimination or what? um hum..
This county is on its way to dictatorship, I feel it, and I am sure I am not the only one that feels it / a forced society. scary
getrealthen 9 months ago
chomsky starts at 1:00
yankeessuck309 9 months ago
We live in an `Elected dictatorship`, Democracy is a `Dictatorship`, of the majority of the citizens. We must stop electing people to `Rule` our lives, a parliament should only have the `Right`to pass a Bill, which must then go to the citizens in a referendum; if the people reject the bill,then it doesn`t happen! The US needs another `citizens` revolution! We must get rid of the `Garbage` that `Rules` us.
terrygand 10 months ago 18
@terrygand The Arabs are trying to do it. Obviously, we Americans are a bunch of morons & cowards. The political Parties are corrupt. Americans are controlled & ruled by corporate owners. The "President" is nothing but a mouthpiece for billionares. His purpose is to APPEAR to care for Americans, & by doing so, to fool Americans. America will remain in the hands of the rich, & its people will only "get dumber" than they already are. Americans are simply too stupid to understand the truth.
yourtreat2 9 months ago
@terrygand no, democracy in this country is a dictatorship by those few special interest groups that can pay millions to lobby what gets put on the riders, pork barrel and earmarks, propositions, and funds for political candidates.
MrBigEnchilada 9 months ago
@terrygand Unfortunately it's not practical for people to review and vote on every bill.
mukfay 6 months ago
@mukfay Really? I can tell you sir/madam, I regularly read/write & make decisions;as I am certainly not illiterate. I sometimes make "the wrong" decision but, that does not mean that I want other people to make those decisions for me. It`s time people started to "Think" for themselves & not let "Others" make decisions on their behalf. The confederation of Switzerland has referendum on "many" issues. We should stop deluding ourselves!
terrygand 6 months ago
@terrygand I agree with much of your analysis. What part of my message implied that you're illiterate? I'm not sure why "many" is in quotes, but my point was that with the volume of bills that pass through the US Congress, it would not be practical for voters to research each and every bill thoroughly enough to make an informed decision.
I too am literate. I too regularly read, write, and make decision. I didn't say "many" I said all, and I stand by that. Hence the need for a Republic.
mukfay 6 months ago
@terrygand A Republic with an informed, involved electorate. The acidic nature of your response (the instant instinct to go on the offensive) contributes a great deal to the dynamic which inhibits the education and sharing of information on the internet and in other venues. I prefer and calmer approach which allows for education and persuasion. Since you seem to be willing to do the work to become informed, I salute you. Please apply that to encourage rather than inciting.
mukfay 6 months ago
@mukfay If I caused you any offence sir/madam, I do apologize! I have recently seen ( on TV) , a US politician in an interview say that they ( politicians), do not actually read the bills that are voted on! I wonder why? Could it be that they can`t be bothered? Or perhaps they just don`t care ! And many people wonder why we are in such a mess. You will have to excuse my grammar, English is not my first language
terrygand 6 months ago
@terrygand I'm not offended. I just think you have something valuable to offer here. Yes, they do vote on bills they haven't read, and yes, sometimes they can't be bothered. Often it's because the bill is so large, and there is so little time, that it's physically impossible to read the bill before it is time to vote on it. Not only that, things are sometimes hand-written into the margins of the pages of the bill just before the vote.
mukfay 6 months ago
@terrygand It's disgusting, but it takes will on the part of the people to fight these practices, and the will has been drained utterly by entertainment, and addiction to "stuff," which costs money (or time in the sense that people have to work long hours to buy the stuff they think they need. It's a damned shame. However, I have a theory that had people in other countries been raised here in the US, they would react in a similar fashion. You needn't excuse yourself for your grammar. It's fine.
mukfay 6 months ago
@mukfay Thank you for your response! I now believe that our current economic system & our legislative system, is coming to it`s end. In the Internet age, how can we elect a few hundred people who make a list of promises that they rarely keep after the election ? we get the usual excuses about why we must wait a `bit longer` & everything will be just great. Today in the UK we have a credit card economy, & nobody cares! Our debts are reducing us to a "second rate" state. Let`s all pretend!
terrygand 6 months ago
@terrygand This is the kind of stuff everyone should be talking about -- not which Republican will win the nomination. No candidate with a chance of winning in 2012 is what this country needs.
What we need is empowerment of the people.
insteally 5 months ago 3
@insteally Thank you for your comments.
terrygand 5 months ago
@terrygand the united states is a democratic republic. there is a big difference that and a pure democracy
omegadisasterman 5 months ago 2
@omegadisasterman mmmmm...... Really? I suggest that the US is a Republic and not a "Democratic Republic" . If the citizens vote for a particular political party,who have the right to make the law; without asking for the `vox pop", then that is not my idea of a Democracy. We (that includes my country,UK), are still electing people who have the right to `rule over us`,without asking us for our permission about each individual change to our national law. I am a Citizen, not a `Subject` !
terrygand 5 months ago
@terrygand democracy is rule by the mob, power of the 51 to bully the 49, rule by the greatest number over the few. constitutional republic is the only thing that truly protects freedom of individuals from the whims of the majority.
chrispollock 3 months ago
notice that chomsky completely ignores the fact that government regulation created false economic indicators, thus leading to unsustainable growth in the housing market, and forced lenders to act irresponsibly through "affordable housing" initiatives. if people could afford their mortgages, none of this would have happened. the market is quite efficient at weeding out things that don't work. but chomsky is a leftist, so there you go.
chrispollock 3 months ago
@terrygand The presidential election MASK the DICTATORSHIP OF THE CLASS RULE.
arzoyan 2 months ago 3
@terrygand The simplest revolution is: stop shopping. Not demonstrating, going on strike, or voting will do the trick. By shopping the masses have created a New Nobility. other than Kings, Dukes, or Barons. Today they are called differently. The French had to attack the Bastille, and kill their suppressors. Americans just have to stop shopping.
Nobody can force you to buy stuff.
keesvangulik127 1 month ago
@terrygand agreed... the constitution has been distorted and abandoned
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ChiefWolfmoon 10 months ago
Freedom is Slavery.
JasonDamisch 11 months ago
@JasonDamisch There is no "freedom", democracy is mob rule.
pretorious700 11 months ago
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Yep. and someone made a trip to Africa where sick people are not tolerated, and they are put aside to die. Somebody, whether R or D, will have to do something. God, doe the President not know that there are people suffering right under neath his nose? What is he doing to help? I am so sick and tired of him ordering aide to other countries, when I need help right here in America. If he wants to be a president of another country ,then he should go to another country.
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The monetary serfdom of immense humanity to an outdated,dehumanising,destructive MARKET SYSTEM OF ARTIFICIAL SCARCITY is the template of the suffering of our common humanity . Divinity is SHARING OUR PLANET FOR OUR COMMMON NEEDS AND WELL BEING in harmony within and without. All metaphysical, piecemeal tinkering with COMMMODITIFICATION of our energies is doomed to fail. Only a democratic majority working class movement for a MONEYLESS,CLASSLESS,STATELESS communities of humanity is the option
arzoyan 11 months ago
The solution: draft all old people and send them to invade Iran. Problem(s) solved.
Uncle5cary 11 months ago
Libertarians of the present day are accustomed to think of socialism as the polar opposite of the libertarian creed. But this is a grave mistake, responsible for a severe ideological disorientation of libertarians in the present world. As we have seen, Conservatism was the polar opposite of liberty; and socialism, while to the “left” of conservatism, was essentially a confused, middle-of-the-road movement.
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it tries to achieve Liberal ends by the use of Conservative means.
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CytherLynx 11 months ago
You need a good book about the economy, look for Ha-joon Changs great book about the myths of Capitalism. Great idea for the elites to read this.
buddinganarchist 11 months ago
@buddinganarchist I see you read zcommunications as well ;)
To clarify, the book is "23 Things They Don't Tell You About Capitalism" by Ha-joon Chang.
Another important book is Adam Smith's "Wealth of Nations", largely considered to be the prime text of capitalist theory. Quite a good read, too, considering there are MANY arguments against capitalist market competition, wage labor, and joint-stock companies (analogous to modern corporations) in the very book supposedly supporting capitalism.
rtnslnd 11 months ago
@buddinganarchist that is such a bad bad book IMO. it is filled with so many fallacies, i don't know where to begin. read 'economics in one lesson' by henry Hazlitt.. read the reviews on amazon. after reading, you will know what i mean.
CytherLynx 11 months ago
The Rothschilds are enslaving the People of the US via the fraudulent criminal conspiracy known as the illegal, unConstitutional Federal Reserve. The entire US government is now simply a puppet of the Rothschild banking dynasty.
“End the Fed”
Every political candidate must be evaluated based upon this single all telling crucial issue. You are either with the People or you are with the Rothschilds and their agents, the international bankers.
This is the new American litmus test.
Lentenlands 11 months ago
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CytherLynx 11 months ago
@JakeMansonNYC How so? I would argue that the deregulation of financial institutions is directly responsible for the '08 financial crisis, and deregulation combined with lack of oversight will be responsible for the next.
Keinlicht 11 months ago
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CytherLynx 1 year ago 2
@CytherLynx only if you say please
SKIPPERDUDEL 1 year ago
For those who are confused about all the political interpretations and mud-flinging you are likely to find on forums.
read classics from every perspective.
communist manifesto, leviathan, the republic, economics in one lesson, the law.. etc.
however, that said, i oppose almost everything Chomsky said, i don't even know where to start. i believe he has fallen for some very important economics fallacies.
he is trying to pin economic instability on markets, not government.
CytherLynx 1 year ago
@CytherLynx You're turning conditionality on it's head, as if it is government which is largely responsible for policy. The very people in government would not be there if not for the massive support and financing of campaigns by corporate capitalist funding. To paraphrase Smith himself, a laissez-faire economy would quickly turn into a conspiracy of business and industry against consumer, scheming to influence politics and legislation. That's Adam Smith, you know, that notorious commie.
rtnslnd 11 months ago
@rtnslnd i have actually read 'the wealth of nations', but you've lumped me into one catagory of 'capitalists' it seems. i don't support most of adams ideas.
this massive push for selfish interests, via lobbying occurs because they are sucessful a lot of the time. And they are successful because people cannot possibly review the thousands of legislation put forth by both sides (they're both corrupt)
all i can say is read 'economics in one lesson' short and excellent book that deals with this
CytherLynx 11 months ago
@CytherLynx
Lol I've read Hayek and Rothbard before, I really am not compelled to read them again via Hazlitt. The issue is whether their economic models fit with human behavior. They do not. Humans are predictably irrational, and their only rebuttal is that we act "as if" we follow the rationalist economic model, even if agents do not use rational models in their everyday lives. Behavioral economics is far more accurate on how humans behave regarding economics.
rtnslnd 11 months ago
@rtnslnd no, you've got it all wrong. Economics isn't just about predicting behavior. As Hume, Weber, etc has explained, the social sciences cannot be treated like the natural sciences because of the fact-value distinction.
even if Austrian economics did not lead to the most wealth, i'd still support it 100% !
why? Because it's also about the rights of the individual.
CytherLynx 11 months ago
@rtnslnd and that being said. hazlitt book fully takes into account people's irrational behaviour. It isactually the Austrian school that gets this, and neo-classical that don't. it is highly ironic that you attack with that criticism
behavioural economics on the other hand has limited usages. human behaviour is complex & unpredictable. individuals randomly affect macro trends all the time. on top of this, behavioural economics can NEVER explain ethics or rights.
You clearly know NOTHING argh
CytherLynx 11 months ago
@CytherLynx And yeah, I know NOTHING. Absolutely nothing. That's why I'm able to respond on youtube comments. That's how I can speak. That's how I can comment on economics in any manner, even if I'm wrong. It's cuz I know NOTHING. The scope of your comment is ridiculously inaccurate, and makes it evident that you have not taken a class in philosophy (or did not pay attention), which is absolutely pivotal to critical thinking skills.
I'm not gonna argue with somebody that has no standards. G'day
rtnslnd 11 months ago
@rtnslnd AND on top of this, you say "The issue is whether their economic models fit with human behavior. They do not."
The Austrian school does not develop models of behaviour! you've attacked something that doesn't exist, a testament to your lack of understanding.
A/E understand that individual choice is unpredictable, and the only thing that can be done is treat it for what it is, a social science, and thus use the right methodology unlike neo-classical theory and B/E.
CytherLynx 11 months ago
@rtnslnd It's amazing what you've said, because it is so self refuting and inane.
where you say Austrian economics fails, is actually what Austrian economics criticises of other economic schools.
and then what you claim B/E as a solution. it is the exact school of economics that falls for this error of not understanding complex human individuality.
it is like me criticising the catholic church for being unscientific, and then saying the need the see the Darwinian light of god.
frustrating!
CytherLynx 11 months ago
@rtnslnd
actually,
it's like criticising the catholic church for being FAITHLESS, then saying they need the see the Darwinian light of god.
twice as stupid.
CytherLynx 11 months ago
@CytherLynx Right. Psychology (which is what behavioral economics is based on) is not relevant to human behavior, but complex mathematical models are.
You're really grasping at straws there.
I did not say the Austrian school developed models of behavior. I said the Austrian schools developed mathematical models about how we supposedly act as if we were rational agents, and it fails to take into account that actual human behavior is not reflected in these models.
rtnslnd 11 months ago
@rtnslnd no! 'Austrians' don't develop mathematical models at all!
even wikipedia describes this under the methodology, on 'Austrian economics' page.
"rational agents"?
Austrian's are the one's who reject this rational agent view, 'Homo economicus' who somehow knows everything and makes perfect decisions.
behavioural economics has very limited specific uses, and it is the one using mathematical models more than any school.
you've got it back to front, it's kinda funny.
CytherLynx 11 months ago
@CytherLynx You're right, I was confusing the Chicago school with the Austrian school.
However, Mises said of the Austrian method: "its statements and propositions are not derived from experience... They are not subject to verification or falsification on the ground of experience and facts."
Friedman: "The Hayek-Mises explanation of the business cycle is contradicted by the evidence. It is, I believe, false."
I don't see a whole lot of consistency among Austrian supporters.
rtnslnd 11 months ago
@rtnslnd the business cycle has been confirmed time and time again. it is no coincidence that the majority of the people who predicted the economic crisis were Austrians, that understood the business cycle.
Freidman wasn't an Austrian economics supporter. he supported the neo-classical methodology, which i believe is wrong.
what books have you read on Austrian economics?
watch this to understand it: watch?v=wCmwRN5gjOo
CytherLynx 11 months ago
@CytherLynx You are making the same argument against behavioral economics that the rational choice supporters use, that it has "limited applications". I fail to see how that's even remotely true, as one of the prime tenets of behavioral economics is the concept that economic agents are subject to cognitive bias in their market interactions, thru limited access to information. Therefore their market interactions are guided by rules of thumb, not necessarily strict logic. Seems applicable to me.
rtnslnd 11 months ago
@rtnslnd its also good to remember that the marginalist revolution occurred in the 1870s, overturning Adam smiths ideas as surely as Einstein overturned Newtons theory. there's been many other changes since, and thus the wealth of nations is best read as a historical book.
CytherLynx 11 months ago
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Thanks for trying but you don't understand Nigger rich economics
Its hard to respect anyone who cannot or will not prove legally they are a citizen. Respect is not something you get, it has to be earned, and I have no respect for people who do not earn it and want to try to take it and if you don't listen to main street media you are uninformed, if you do, you are misinformed.
411American 1 year ago
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EdisunSolar 1 year ago
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Obama spends 9 Trillion dollars drives America into depression ? For who
Independent self supporting states are on welfare.
Main stream media 911 propaganda allowed invasion and terrorism of foreign lands.
Obama health care talk as they enlarge war mongering support
Don’t ask don’t tell a perfect saying for American Prostitutes
People who sells out their charter for counterfeit comfort deserves neither.
America surrender to the new world order as china and Saudis uses American blood.
EdisunSolar 1 year ago
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Capitalism is the wage slavery of immense humanity in a politically corrupt,manipulated MARKET SYSTEM OF ARTIFICIAL SCARCITY ,a tyrannical,destructive system to perpetuate poverty and exploitation in the interest of the ruling class. Capitalism from its genocide of the native Americans,mercantile plundering and enslavement of African natives to its Millitaristic rise of European Powers to World wars and Financial serfdom of the world has been a DISASTEROUS imposition of minority rule.
arzoyan 1 year ago
This analysis is now know to be wrong. We now know that those controlling the American government orchestrated the financial collapse so that they could obtain three trillion dollars from the goverment. The latest is that it is the big bankers from Wall street (like the Rockerfeller's who own J.P.Morgan) that are responsible.
davedidashit 1 year ago
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Dr. Chomsky recently told Iranian TV that at the time the USA attacked Afghanistan they had no evidence that al Qaeda did 9/11. See my video "Chomsky on Faith-based Wars and 9/11"
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
I hear a lot of people talk about how bad a new world order will be. i think that is the only way forward. Gooooooooooo World! :P
mystico09 1 year ago
Love the Real news
mystico09 1 year ago
MOST OF THE COMMENTS BELOW ARE CORRECT!!!
WE DONT NEED A GOVERNMENT!!!!! WE NEED A NEW SOCIAL SYSTEM!!!!
ZEITGEIST MOVEMENT
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i0am0a0daytrader 1 year ago
We don't need socialism, we need individual Liberty.
specialkornflake 1 year ago
@specialkornflake i need to win the lottery then i wont care about any of you
simpleearthling 1 year ago
@simpleearthling I'm glad you care now, lol
specialkornflake 1 year ago
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you shouldn't be allowed to be that smart
mrzipdisk 1 year ago
Truly free market advocates would completely disagree with Chomsky's premise here. His premise is that free market fundamentalism has been the status quo. When in fact, what we've been enduring is "crony capitalism". Free market capitalism implies RISK. Where is the RISK for federal government-subsidized financial institutions? Where is the RISK when failure just means you'll get a bailout from the "lender of last resort"?
b2bdown 1 year ago
continued- So yes, Chomsky is correct when he says "risk taking is underpriced", of course it is when a business knows it can reap all the profits but not worry about the penalties of its actions. No, those penalties are given to the American people to bear, those are the "externalities".
b2bdown 1 year ago
continued- This form of capitalism is not "free market" or "self-regulating markets"; placing all the blame for our current economic problems on these ideas is intellectual dishonesty, the kind of which you don't expect from a distinguished linguistics professor.
b2bdown 1 year ago
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b2bdown 1 year ago
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The fundamental principle that we need to grapple with is this , Humanity cannot be treated as batteries of energy so a few can enrich and empower themselves the consequence is a world of war,poverty,exploitation,enviornmental destruction and many other terrible ongoing challenges, or We share the earth for all generations to come in harmony and cooperation for our material and emotional needs, We need to understand our common source and our common destiny , our common humanity as one
arzoyan 1 year ago
democracy is the road to socialism.
tannersanta 1 year ago
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@tannersanta
" democracy is the road to socialism. "
Absolutely - Democratic Socialism. When everyone can vote, that will be reflected in policy, and by extension the economy.
tigerone1970 1 year ago
Primary residence, food, and utilities must be profit-free. Otherwise, whatever workers profit, will be snapped up by these necessities, and workers have nothing to spend to help boost business. No money = no business.
geehuckwow 1 year ago
How can you talk about market fundamentalism when the biggest culprits (and among the biggest loosers) were freddie and fannie - government-sponsored enterprises?
rexdeodium 1 year ago
The most vital of those would be cutting employee salaries, which make up 75 to 80 percent of the city’s expenses, Cain said.
“The current salary structure is unsustainable,” Cain said, adding that city employees make an average of more than $100,000 a year in salaries and benefits. “The salaries are out of whack with the private sector...You can’t run a city on those numbers.”
stickitupyourasteric 1 year ago
Its like we are in a parental rebellion, having continuous examples of their dislike of us, but needing the elusive final straw to form our final judgment. Wake up America, your under attack on several fronts and yet you are unable to regain your god given rights to rule your own house. Of the people for the people has been hijacked by the self intersted rule of the elite.
stickitupyourasteric 1 year ago
@stickitupyourasteric "If only we could have a completely socialized system!" they say, even while the failure of government is all around them, and examples of that type of government have been proven to be much worse than the opposite.
b2bdown 1 year ago
@stickitupyourasteric Yes America is still like a teenager, it hasn't matured. A mature, grown up America is one that is FREE- not still relying on some authority to take care of them from cradle to grave, and then complaining about the inevitable inefficiencies and corruption that result because of it. People like Chomsky think that we need more of that authority.
b2bdown 1 year ago
@b2bdown
Bush was the most socialist President ever he nationalized the Banks the Auto industry!
petersz98 1 year ago
@b2bdown
What a bunch of garbage. America is like it is because of the relations between politicians and corporations. Republicans love government, when it makes them tons of money and furthers their agenda. Dems are corporate whores too, just in a different way.
What we need is campaign finance reform and a few other things.
refuckulate420 1 year ago 15
@refuckulate420 We need a resource based economy. Youtube for "zeitgeist addendum".
boumar19721972 1 year ago
@refuckulate420 I think that's half of it. The other half is the relations of production between the owners of industry (capitalists) and the producers within industry (workers). As long as workers remain in a subservient role, and do not free themselves from the shackles of state-capitalism, no amount of reform will truly free us. It has long been known that business dictates state policy, regardless of who is in power or how much "democracy" we have. True democracy is direct democracy.
rtnslnd 11 months ago
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@refuckulate420 From the European Mecantile Capitalism of genocidal killings of AMERICANS ,African ENSLAVEMENT and horrors of colonisation and domination to GLOBAL FINANCIAL MAFIA backed by latest KILLING MACHINES, WORLD CAPITALISM is the MARKET SYSTEM OF ARTIFICIAL SCARCITY, distortions and WAGE SLAVERY OF THE WORKING CLASS IN THE INTEREST OF THE CRIMINAL RULING CLASS.
arzoyan 3 months ago
@b2bdown - Perhaps a free America could prosper, but their would have to be a major intellectual change in education. As in improve it.
JohnnyRock2000 1 year ago
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A classless,monyless,stateless communities of humanity in cooperation to take care of our needs and well being , expressing our creative energies in freedom of being. Capitalism is the manipulation of resources and technology for the private gain of a few in a monetary system that enslaves immense humanity in wage slavery of useless employment system that dehumanises and denies our human creative potential for a world of harmony within and without.
arzoyan 1 year ago
Self-regulating markets are fantasy? Ha! Chomsky's understanding of economics is fantasy! Don't get me wrong, Chomsky is extremely intelligent and is excellent on foreign policy but he has no idea what he is talking about when it comes to economics.
bolognamof 1 year ago
@bolognamof
Yup he is crap on economics, but on foreign policy he is beastly..
xMaXiMuSx 1 year ago
@xMaXiMuSx Completely agree with that statement!
bolognamof 1 year ago
Self Regulating Markets is Balogny.
heartlessvietboy 1 year ago
Businesses and Corporations making too much money should lower the price or cost of their products or services.
heartlessvietboy 1 year ago
@heartlessvietboy That would end up being a limit on corporate (private) profits, essentially. That would require a revolution, as it would effectively end speculation and likely democratize fascist corporations. Probably not in our lifetimes.
doston1 1 year ago
We are not limiting profits of those making too much money, they can make however money they want. What we are doing is taxing because they are taking all the resources and all it takes is for us to pass a legislation.
Sometimes in life, there is no pleasing everybody. When one harms the system, that one must listen for the good of humanity even when they argue that they are free human beings and can do whatever they want.
heartlessvietboy 1 year ago
dis guy b smart
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Efficacious24 1 year ago
The self regulating market would charge higher interest. This why money would cost more, GS, homenbuyers, business would not take those risks due to cost of money. The FED caused this, not the free market. If rates were allowed to be set by the market, the market would not have lent money at 2% for NIJIA loans. Truly free markets regulate, markets that are not free like the ones run by the FED lead to distortions and bubbles.
nmud 1 year ago
@nmud externalities still aren't covered. there were bubbles and booms even during times when the government simply couldnt regulate effectively even if it tried such as the 19th century. markets work in certain cases, but not it others. they're also so short term based that the future can be sacrificed such as with the environment. you could argue that markets could fix the environment, but that misses the point that they destroy the environment in the first place. why not try to prevent such?
BloodTypeRagu 1 year ago
@099749..Your stats are wrong, the US uses about 25% and Europe uses about the same.
nmud 1 year ago
Sorry I dont trust Jews!
carnypimp 1 year ago
@carnypimp why stop at jews? just say white people.
lamaya43 1 year ago
@lamaya43 Jew is not a race reject. It is a slave religion! They ruined Germanys economy now ours.
carnypimp 1 year ago
@carnypimp wow, that's really profound. so do you sound like that in person, or does the anonimity of the internet make you an ass-hole?
lamaya43 1 year ago
@lamaya43 Im a asshole 24-7, at work, shopping, baseball games, at home. Im a proffessional asshole. If I was to die tomorrow my wife would say he was good at being an asshole and that was it.
carnypimp 1 year ago
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@carnypimp well, i guess if youre going to be something, you might as well be good at it.
lamaya43 1 year ago
Chomsky is cool. All jews are cool. Chomsky is a jew. Since I am a jew, therefore I am cool.
All gentiles MUST DIE.
LongliveSnak2e 1 year ago
@LongliveSnak2e The only Jews that are true children of Israel are Sephardic, so if you're Ashkenazi chances are you are a gentile that has been lied to.
HPaillet 1 year ago
Going to add here actually what should happen here
is that the banks give back the money if they fall they fall! Others will take over from them.
That's free market captialism!
099749 1 year ago
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Too big to fail.... Too important to fail- That's not capitalist!
099749 1 year ago
@099749 cont..
Wanna know what really funny they couldnt pay it back now anyway as they've blown it on themselves, and done a nice little runner with the peoples money!
Whole thing is a joke!
099749 1 year ago
@099749 cont...
I quiet like stats you know. Did you know America accounts for around 5% of the worlds population- Yet America consumes around 50% off all the petrol(oil) on the market.
Leaving everyone else the other 95% of the world population to consume the other 50%.
If america stopped using oil- then limited world reserves would have a life span twice as long as they currently are!
And they do all of that by borrowing all the money to do so!
099749 1 year ago
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Just thinking actually that I read back in 1999 I think might have been slightly later 2000 or 2002. That the america sercurity stratgy for the future, an nsa report I believe, stated that in the future america would look to the military to enforce and protect it's position in this world.
So looking at that the idea about America dumping the dollar in the future and impoverishing many- many would be annoyed about it, and no doubt would think they'll never do that I could....
099749 1 year ago
@099749 cont...
It could mean war, yet in a situation where america has borrowed to build it's military up, and seeks to use that military to protect its position.
and where many of the people(countries) upset probably wouldn't have the funds needed for war or their funds would be highly limited, as a result of the dollar dumping- The army becomes the ace in the whole in getting the world to except it- after the fact
Is there a way to force America to keep the dollar? and so pay their debts
099749 1 year ago
@099749 sorry it was the nss the natonal security stragity I do believe
099749 1 year ago
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How do banks make so much money by doing nothing more than swindling people? They don't produce anything that we can export out of the country for profit like farmers or auto manufacturers do, yet they make more money than all of them. Banks basically make their riches taking advantage of the workers who make up the backbone of this nation. The farmers, the manufacturers, the SOLDIERS.. The ones who actually produce something and help the economy are being bled dry by these heinous banks.
fooschnikens 1 year ago
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arzoyan 1 year ago
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A moneyless,classless,stateless communities of humanity expressing our freedom in creative harmonious cooperation for a world that is so POTENTIALLY AND ACTUALLY nourishing. Capitalism in any form, Statist or Corporatist is the denial of our common humanity in a politically manipulated,tyrannical armed MARKET SYSYTEM of artificial scarcity that is designed to perpetuate the enslavement of immense humanity for material interest of the criminal ruling elite
arzoyan 1 year ago 2
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Capitalism is the historic evolution of private property relationship of alienation,exploitation and suffering of humanity in a modality of commodity production for abstract process of capital accumulation and concentration . A system of wage slavery in a employment system of suppression and dehumanistion. We need to transcend this false limits to our creative cooperative energies for a moneyless,classless,stateless communities of humanity expressing our energies in freedom of being.
arzoyan 1 year ago 3
Why is Chomsky talking about democracy? I heard at another conference say: "America is not a democracy, and was never intended to be". Chomsky said that America was a "Polyarchy"- a system were the sole purpose of society is to maintain the power of the elite. He said the same families that were rich 200 years ago are the same families that are rich today.
tothatextent 1 year ago
@tothatextent
He talks about democracy- as it's Rich fascism(tyranny) or tyranny of the richest, verse democracy.
Understand that america isnt a democracy- america is not run by the government- america is run, by the banking corporations and other corporations- they make the decisions, and they are not elected by the people nor do they work for the people or in the peoples interest!
America is not a democracy- and with the crisis they corporations have weakened the sham-democracy even more
099749 1 year ago
@tothatextent cont....
It is to say that America is not a democracy yet the elected people in office still have some things they can do, very little yet some-they can change laws, and spend some of the tax as they want to, they can raise tax or reduce it.
Corporations with the crisis are attacking more and more the state- and so, taking away the very little things the democratically elected can do.
That's what he means!
099749 1 year ago
@tothatextent cont...
Understand that, as the government has bailed out the banks public finances are crippled- therefore the government has to bring in spending.
this means that things that government was running are now cut and will either no longer be done or will be taken over by private interests- you guessed it the corporations- will take them over!
What little democractic powers the elected have reduced and the corporates power increased!
the crisis was a con to achieve that- A LIE!
099749 1 year ago
@tothatextent cont...
notice also that in a free market ecconomy the government should not be bailing out the banks at all- they should have been allowed to fail all of them. Other smaller banks would have taken over, that's the free market- that's how it works.
Winners and losers all the banks that are up top today should not be there:- They are not capitalists these people- they do not believe in the free market!
They are business tyrannts- business fascists!
Not Business capitalists!
099749 1 year ago
@tothatextent cont..
understand that america is not a democracy no negative freedom country is: What you have is seudo-democracy where the elected Mps- have more or less ability to act- and we are moving into a situation where the elected Mps of the future will not be able to do anything really.
Ergo the total death of democracy- although some would say it's already dead- I am inclined to agree. because truly policy is set by the system ergo the corporations not the elected- none work in....
099749 1 year ago