Yeah, I have an old '93 Dodge Shadow ES. Has the Mitsu V6, though not built yet. Raced a damn VW Beetle and was beat down. Figured it would be the case though, as I could hear that exhaust and the turbocharger spool up. :)
@RMez31 Manuals have forged cranks if you want to add power down the road. Auto's are good for running good consistent times at the track, and are easier to launch. But it all comes down to preference. I prefer to drive a manual.
The Ford/GM/Chrysler rivalry is all part of the fun. It's like cheering for your favorite sports team. This is the first time in years that the rivalry has flared up so much, with all the new muscle of the past 16 years it's great to see, after the 80s when they stopped making fast cars. If you don't own a domestic muscle car you're missing out on the fun.
@pkhunting112 what the hell are you talking about? Camaro's and Trans AM's are known to break down all the time. 1 of my friends had a ls1 camaro with 82,000 miles and he had to keep fixing shit on it, so he sold it for a mustang that has 90,000 now with full bolt ons and everything, and hasnt had a problem. My other friends z28 with 128,000 has had to have been in the shop atleast 10 times now. Ford is known to be reliant, GM is not.
@IamAtree000001 idk man its never the lt1 or ls1 that has the prob its everything else for example....my 95 ss impala had only full dynomax exhaust and a diablotuner and the trans couldnt hold had 2 be rebuilt twice along with the rear once...though the guy who did the exhuast the 1st time was a con man....fucking ziggy..u have 2 admit the engines run forever
Ford all the way any time you see a ford and a gm racing the gm has at least a half a litre on the ford5.0 vs ls1,lt1,350 351vs408 etc.Besides the mustang is the all american car yeah the vette has been out longer without interuption unlike the camaro but ther for people who r going through a mid-life crisis.Fords also sound way better than any gm could ever imagine, pure music.My dads a gm guy and he can't stand that both my 94 and my 04 mach sound better than his camaro's.
@e303gt whining about displacement? That's weak, Mustangs are typically lighter as well. That equalizes the displacement difference.
The Corvette is for those with mid-life crisis? That might account for some buyers but not all the buyers as a whole. The Corvette (C5/C5 Z06/C6/C6 Z06/C6 GS) are the MOST bang for buck all round performance you can get PERIOD.
Your "sound" example is purely speculative, I disagree with you. I feel that my LT1 and LS1 sound better than Mustangs (GT/Mach1/Cobra).
@thetravdawg I'm not whining I'm stating facts and gm guys are the first to say"You had to use a supercharger to beat me" or power adder in general I can't help that gm likes to make lead sleds just like I can't help that ford use's small ci motors with forced induction on there higher end cars.Maybe the new z06 WAS the most bang for the buck but now you can buy a 412hp mustang GT for 30-35 grand vs a 505hp z06 for 70 do the math and you'll find your wrong 85$perhp vs 138$.The sound thing is tru
@e303gt While you're mentioning facts, with the exception of the 2011 5.0 Ford did need a Supercharger to beat and N/A Camaro Z28/Trans Am. It's a Fact.
Saying GM make lead sleds is a little hypocritical since Mustangs are primarily straight line cars as well, get your facts straight.
The Z06/ZR1/GS ARE the best bang for buck all round performance cars. You need SIGNIFICANT suspension mods to even bring a GT500 up to the course performance of a standard Corvette.
@thetravdawg You my friend are the typical gm guy my extra .7-.9 litres of motor doesn't matter but i'm gonna whine about the little heaton on top of your manifold.How many times do you go to a road course compared to a drag strip.I guarantee its a 20 to 1 ratio if not more in the dragstrips favor so whats the point in building a car for it,I don't know you tell me.Even after you buy a gt500 you have an extra 20 grand for suspension mods before you get into a C6/Zo6price .Mustangs sound better
@e303gt I only brought up the S/C because you whined about displacement.
People that buy a C6 Z06 are a little different, the Z06 is essentially a track car. You're assuming that people pay only 50K for the GT500, people regularly pay over sticker for the GT500. The C6GS is comparable in base price and also outperforms the GT500 stock.
You say Mustangs sound better but I disagree (as would a lot of other people) but I am used to seeing Mustangs in my rear view so don't hear them for that long.
@thetravdawg What ever the reason you whined about the s/c you did just like ya'll always do .It's wierd that all you see in your rearview is mustangs cuz all I see in my rearview are gm's.~On the same token I also assumed that people were paying only sticker for the new corvette which is not the case so my cars won without me being biased and only using facts not statements. Some people do think gm's sound better than mustangs those people are what US higher fuctioning people call retards lol.
@e303gt haha you said I "whined" about the S/C. w/e Not in your '94 Mustang GT you don't & stock for stock LS1s are faster than Mach1s. There are numerous videos on here where Mach1s are taken by stock LS1s so unless you're running some serious bolt-ons against stock LS1s you're full of crap.
Speaking of retards you talk the sound of your cars up yet have ZERO videos of them. You're looking like a fanboy poser with no videos.
p.s. what's a "heaton"? I'm aware of the eaton S/C on terminators.
@thetravdawg I am A fan man far from a poser why would I put a video up of a combo that the world has seen a million times over My mustangs sounds like every other mustang just like your camaro sounds like every other camaro.I Own 3 mustangs im pretty sure that means im a non poser i'll see if i can't find a video camera lying around and put a video up that makes my car look faster than what it is like you do.Eatons are bad 4 knock up high due to heat so add a H 2 the front of eaton-Heaton
@thetravdawg Blahhhhh B.S the fastest ls1 f-body car was the ws6 transam yes thats right faster than the camaro ss. Even its no instant w against a stock mach 1. Whoever is in front on the takeoff usually wins the race with the ls1 coming back after 5th gear seeing as how the mach 1 packs a 5spd and the ls1 a 6spd. Those two cars are more evenly matched than people realize.
@tyrone121285 The majority of the videos I have seen on youtube of stockish Mach1s versus stockish LS1s have been in the LS1s favor (whether Camaro or Trans Am).
My experiences with Mach1s were before I bought my LS1. I raced two presumably stock Mach1s in my full exhaust LT1. The first was an auto and he went down on a freeway run. The second was a manual and he had at least exhaust and he tried to jump me from 20mph and by the time we let out I was around 95mph and had a fender on him.
@tyrone121285 and anything can't happen at the track? What do you run at the track? Didn't see any videos of your car on your page.
Auto vs auto the LS1 has the advantage because of a better auto and better gearing. The manual Mach1 is the only one that has a driver's chance against a auto/manual LS1.
@thetravdawg I own a 94 mustang. I'll stick to what I say it depends on who's in front leaving. I'll give no extra credit to the mustang or take away from the camaro.
@tyrone121285 It depends on driver, the LS1 pulls harder stock for stock making the same/more hp and more torque. Doesn't matter if you give or take away credit, the fact remains the LS1 auto vs auto and manual vs manual is faster equally driven.
@thetravdawg Is that why they trap the same thing quartermile because the ls1 is purely faster. Moreover, if it depends on the driver then their is no advantage of one car over the other like I said whoevers in front off the line usually wins
@tyrone121285 Best trap speed for a stock Mach1 has been 106mph and the best for an LS1 has been 107-108. That would be faster yes? Equally driven the LS1 is faster. Even with a better launch by the Mach1 the LS1 will reel in the Stang when both cars are equally driven (unless they're both autos in which case the LS1 will be faster regardless of driver).
@tyrone121285 I have watched TONS of videos of stock Mach1s and have yet to find a single one trapping above 106mph (feel free to post the video you saw of the 108mph trap speed).
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Before you say those are limited production models remember that the the Mach1 was also a limited production and all models in the video links above were available factory options.
@thetravdawg You don't have to take my word for it but its been done besides whats the use in posting a vid. The following argument will be whether or not the car was stock.
i had a 99 ls1 z28 auto with 107k, later got an 03 mach1.i have been a ford guy since i was younger(95gt, 85gt, 96 cobra, 03 mach1) but i would take ls1-the 4.6 just doesnt have the cubes to compare....and i dont mean just half second wins, etc...i mean gm hit the nail on the head with choosing a larger old style pushrod engine; the feel , the tone, the power band, and the f-body styling/handling...gm for the win, sorry ford, 5.4 was rite choice
I love the top end of LS1's. It's like a tease to the mustangs but once I hit around 3500-4000rpm it wraps up real quick. Good video, atleast you're not afraid to show a loss
IRONMANTA, R u like an assclown in some circus show or some shit like that, how bout u try a shelby 500 and eat a bit of dust or are u just happy with the fact u won a race with a driver who cannnnnnnn not shift Id outrun u in my 93 explorer, yes u heard me right clean the wax outta ur fucken ears slapnutz, Let me say it slower 4 u ! I could outrun ur car with a Ford Explorer, Explorer ! 93, 93, cause i know how to drive, AND RICH PPL DRIVE FORD GTS
@1974nyarlathotep 1> ford gt's are slow the zo6 gets em 2nd i own a ws6 n have smoked yes thats right smoked a shelby gt500 and saleen s281 no prob so u sir mr slapnut yes im talking to u 1974nyarlathotep-slapnut that i drive gm y? because y drive a ford, hell i drive gm cuz i want to go fast i want power so sorry brosiff u cant get that outa a shitstang ford ashes to ashes dust to dust if it werent for fords my tools would rust and might i say that all ford owners are extremrmly oblivious cuz
i have a 04 mach1 and gears probally made the most difference, it would really help you get more than one on the ss out of the hole and help ur top end too.
You would need a Bad Ass "Bird" to run with the last two Cobra's turning 9.70's, and 10.38 (AVG) daily driven Stang's we built ON PUMP GAS. Thats about the time I order my LS Engine customers new Engines. Respect... Like them both but the MOD Cobra 5.2 (Stroked slightly) engines are damn near bullitt proof... I had to say something after the "I can beat a pullied +++ Cobra with my stock TA. YEAH- Thats rediculous.
why fight ABOUT LS1'S AND THE 4.6 DOHC? I AM A HUGE FAN OF THE LS ENGINES AND THE FORD MOD MOTORS-HOW CAN YOU REALLY LIKE ONE AND NOT THE OTHER? GM HAS THE DISPLACEMENT AND GOOD OLD SNAP YOUR NECK POWER, FORD HAS THE HIGH RPM, LOWER CID WORKHORSE...IF ITS AMERICAN-ITS COOL WITH ME...MAKING DEATH THREATS OVER CARS THAT HAVE THE SAME HERITAGE IS ASSANINE, CHILL OUT
@mrtriplesix no, not at all...im simply saying the 4.6, is designed to rev higher faster!!!!the power bands are different for these engines, why so defensive....i love the ls1
LOL.... GEEEEEZE You MUST Be RICH ! ! ! LOL... A Three Year Old Suzuki, and Three F- Body Junk Heaps... Lol, But you were DEAD ON when you said that your ONLY chance at beating a COBRA would be if you went out and bought one... Lol.... My GOD you are STUPID... Way to PROVE YOUR Initial Point.... LOL...
haha you humor me with your consistent retard remarks. ok so where is your videos of your mach??????? where????? i will take footage of my ws6 hitting high 10's and my bike outrunning a cobra just for you next opportunity i get. I have a friend with a 2.8 kenne bell that will be glad. hell people like you who are poor and argumentative trailer trash, make me glad i am an intelligent wealthy person. thank you for making me realize I am better off than you in this world. I appreciate it
honestly what do you do for a living, suck off the employees after hours at the Ford plant in Detroit. . Oh yeah so when are we gonna race ....???again..... you keep avoiding the initial question. Hell i would outrun you then pull over aftewards and beat the shit out of you just because i can. oh yeah i wont get that opportunity cause you are a scared pussy.
Awe,... A Keyboard Tough Guy ... FUCKTARD you have it ALL Wrong ! After I was done with you and your ( Flamer Turd ) I would Pull Over and SLAP your GIRL on her (opened) and (willing) mouth with my C*CK right in front of you... THEN You would probably buy a Mustang and FORGIVE her ! ! ! But then you would go home and see me bending your moms over your bed and it would be too much 2 take so you would just K*LL Yourself !!! LOL... STOP Trying, Lil BITCH... You and Your Bicycle are PATHETIC...
saharadipity- so you got a Roush? Does it make you feel better to spend an extra might as well say 10 grand to run with a stock f-body...... Yes I said stock F-body. Stock for stock Gm's been beating up on Fords for years. I did like the old 5.0's and the new 5.0 looks promising.
I'd run ya in my bird, I got twin turbo's and we all ready know how that would end up.
hahaha somebody is mad that they cant be aman and accept a challenge. Still avoiding the question with childish rants and tantrums. I am a tough guy, and you would would piss your pant if you only realized how bad i could fuckin cave your skull in with my bare hands, nothing would bring me more satisfaction to meet you in person and make you my bitch.
Naw... The 2v is now gone ...but if you'd like I would GLEEFULLY Injoy watching your PIECE OF BIRD TURD in my rearview FALL to my 03 Mach 1 4v like so many b4 you, Lil Bitch...... Oh and if the comparison between a WS6 and a Fox Body is close , there is no question between the Edge Mustang and a Firechicken
IECStang- in a way i agree with you but i must say nothing putts a bigger smile on my face then stomping a stang and sending its back to its stall beating and broken by a bow-tie. I love american muscle and respect all that have them, but if you dont want to get sent home better stick with the chevy.
haha, there are a ton of v-6 firebirds and camaros out there driven by women as well. They should do away with the v-6's in these cars. Thats a waste.
Yeah and they discontinued the Trans Am's because the Mustang was Kicking their asses in every aspect. I should know. I was fu*king them up on the street with my 2001 ROUSH for years...
i would gladly race that 2v peice of cock custard you call a rousch. OVERPRICED POS GT! how much money did you piss away to get NO PERFROMANCE GAINS! I bet chicks would like the fact my car would walk your ass by 50 bus lengths! IF you think the fox body looks better than a ws6 then take a survey and you will find ITS UGLY AS FUCK!
godamn your a liar. You dont even fuckin own a mustang, but if by some chance you actually do actually own one, please dear god lets set up a race because i would embarrass you! My best friend owns a mach and svt cobra. he sold them both and bought a z06. I like machs, but have beaten every mach I have raced period!
Lol... LMFAO, Ha ha LOL Lol...Ha Ha Ha... Im Laughing at you right now like Cartman from South Park when he seen the MIDGET... Time to wake up from your nap there bud cause you Must be Dreamin... There are COBRAS out there running around the street with over 800 hp. with nothing more than a pulley change, upgraded fuel system, cpu programming, cams, exhaust, and high octane fuel... Can U Say ( Forget Z06 ) ZR1 KILR
whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. can you say you have no life! i challenged you to a race and all you can say is i changed my spark plugs on my cobra and it made 800 rwhp, and i have a magic leprechaun under the hood who sprinkles fairy dust on my balls so i am a better driver. YOU ARENT IN TOUCH WITH REALITY MY FRIEND! 9 sec ls1's all day where i live at runnin turbo's, and yes they skullfuck cobras. your a delusional fanboy!
hell i own a 07 hayabusa with powercommander and small shot. and i will race your cobra or your ford gt, or your what the fuck ever you bring, and dont give a damn. My ws6 is just a hobby car. I own 2 camaros as well and may buy your beloved cobra just to outrun you and then sell it.
what i dont understand is why ford and chevy guys feel like they need to argue about who has the faster car or who's car is better? its the never ending battle and frankly im getting sick of it. thats all i ever see after a video like this and its old news. why cant you just say good runs guys and be done with it?the mach 1 and the ls1 f-bodies are very cool cars and they are both equally fast, so who cares if the mach 1 is slower or the ls1 is faster? does it really matter that much?
@IECStang They are not both equally fast, and the arguments is not always between Chevy and Ford. It's racing all other cars in general, Ford just happens to be Chevy's best competition, and Chevy Ford's best competition. It's a rivalry, like certain football teams have, this rivalry will never end.
@IECStang Are you serious with this post? You must not watch or ever played sports in your life. Competition is part of being human. Every man, obviously except for you, is competitive. As a Chevy man, I'm always gonna cheer for GM. That doesn't mean I dispise any of the Ford and Mopar guys. If you're sosick ofit,maybe you should live somewhere in the Amazon with a tribe that doesn't have cars and trucks. Get real dude.
@LuiSS95Impala Yeah, it's always great to be competitive, but when you have people saying, *name* sucks and *name* is better just 'cause, it really does get annoying. I personally root for Ford, but I know when they are beat. A 4.6L against a 6.1/6.2L is just difficult to pit them against.
@sylentmyst It's obvious that you've dealt with immature people. People from the clubs I’ve been in would talk Ford smack (definitely the GM guys) but they would all appreciate your ride (especially the import guys). I’d talk smack too by saying Found On Road Dead, but I’d still appreciate your Stang. Hell, I’ve considered buying a drop-top Cobra. And, if I did, I’d talk smack to the GM guys when in my Stang, and I own 2 GM’s!!!!
@sylentmyst I hear ya. I don't knock anyone's ride. If they're fast, they're fast. I can respect that. I got schooled once by a dude in a Jetta. Took me on take off and held the lead by a 1/4 car length. I didn't hate him, hell I admired his ride!!
Without these feuds, neither company would push harder for a better car for customers. The only reason they come up with such good cars to compare with is because of these arguments. So you're complaining about something that benefits the consumer, namely you.
bitch and moan that us ford guys have a suercharger. 281 ci engine vs a 350 ci, theres a little bit of a difference there. And dont cry because a pulley intake exhaust and tune cobra (about 1500) will smoke a cam heads ls1 and you gm guys know its true.
my cam / stock unported heads Ws6 beats pullied cobras..... dont get too cocky there sparky... oh and LS1's are 346 and have very little in common with the chevy 350, please dont sound so ignorant.
@balexwogel big difference 346 350 lol. yea an ls1 will beat a mach 1 but you need more than just a cam intake and exhaust to beat a pullied bult on cobra.
umm nahhh ya dont, take a look at my videos.. cam intake exhaust i can beat pullied cobras, its pretty even up until 120 ish and then i pull ahead slightly
wait 91tt300zx your not talking about this video are you??? because a 2003 Mustang Mach 1 is NOT a terminator....? HAHAHA
I have a 2001 Camaro Z28 & a stock terminator isnt all different from an LS1. yea of course its faster. its got a supercharger. BUT they do only run high 12s to low 13s... & if your a good driver in a LS1 Camaro you can get into the high 12s low 13s.
BUT good luck finding a stock terminator these days... haha
Tell Ya Mommy to bring you're sister too tonight, and if your girl wants to cum to ( which I know she does ) she can... Lil BITCH Baby... I now know what your problem is , besides having a 4 in. cock, It's that you own a Piece of SHIT WS6, which never gets or has gotten attention from the Opposite Sex because the car looks like a " Bag of Smashed Assholes " and sounds Even worse... kinda like a Beretta with 2 extra cylinders
oh yea if any of you want to see the article i just quoted from for yourself, then go to google and type in "MM & FF 2001 Bullitt Article 2. it shud be the 3rd one from the top called 01 Bullitt Article 2. unlike saharadipity i can back my ass up with facts.
Holy Fuck ...It's SIMPLE Let me ask you... Do you believe if the Bullit had the 65 extra cubes that the Camaro has that the bullet could go faster than it does right now ?
WTF!? this old ass argument again!? the stangs have always been LIGHTER. ITS SIMPLE. the f-bodies have always been ~400lbs heavier than the stangs. did nothing i just say or quote get through to u? u idiots have always preached with hard-ons that the ford OHC's are better and have more power per liter and bla bla bla. but when a GM comes along and beats u, u cry that it has a bigger fucking engine! u see the stupidity here? i mean are u retarded? do i need to type s l o w e r ?
No cauze the Only thing I like " SLOW " is when your mommy is sucking my cock. I Don't know where you get your info. from, er wait, yes I do... Need for speed on you PS3... A 02 Camaro SS weighs 3411 lbs. wooo 30 lbs heavier than a Mach 1... Probably the BIGGER engine it has Dumb Fuck???
WTF??? i own an '01 WS6 and the curb weight in the door jam says 4098lbs. they are basically the same car. id like to know where YOU get YOUR info. you're a fucking idiot fanboy. "boohoo f-bodies have bigger motors boohoohoo" what a fucking baby. you dont have an argument. everytime i prove you wrong, you deflect. so what about that "stock" mach1 vid you were raving about, eh? EXACTLY. just stfu and crawl back in the hole you came from boy.
deflect some more. please prove me wrong on anything i said. nothing you said bothers me because its the internet. you're pussy-ass can be as tough as you want sitting at a computer. so tell me why a stock z28 can beat a tuned mach 1 with x-pipe. oh wait you cant cuz you're gonna say somthing about my mom. WOW what a shock.
if it did it would get like 2 miles to the gallon dumbass. the fbody with bigger engine gets better mpg all day long! it is scientifically a better engine bar none.
- hard-earned dollars every year to whip bowtie butt. But its time for Ford to send in the reinforcements. We cant do this on our own, guys.-J.C."
WOW. thats from your own MM&FF team. GM has always been able to build badass cars BY THEIRSELVES w/o aftermarket tuning help. but Ford has. hence Shelby, Saleen, and Rousche. so saharadipity tell me; how is Ford better again?
- one camshaft. Pricing? Base z28 Coupe: $21,645. SS option $3950. Destination $575. Total: $26,170. ours had a few extras and topped out at 29-large. Now, dont kill the messenger. We're not advocating selling your mustang to buy a GM product so please dont cancel your subscriptions. This is just to open your eyes and those of the folks at Ford engine development and Team Mustang. We've been waving the blue oval flag for decades, fighting the good fight and spending thousands of our -
- test day. No way was this SS gonna run 12's in this heat. Oops. it went 12.96 at 107.43 in lousy air with a near full tank of gas. not to mention a 13.06 at 108.71 later in the hottest part of the day. With any kind of air, the SS might have gone 12.70's or better. On stock radials. Back at Crazy Horse, it pumped out 321 to the rear wheels on the dynojet. Are you feeling ill yet? Thats 42 more than the last cobra we tested and 82 more than the Bullet. but gee Uncle henry, it only has -
and no 65 cubes would not "completely fuck up" a camaro. the fastest production car in the world (Ultimate Aero TT) houses a PUSHROD V8. modern technology? OHC's are WAY more expensive to upgrade and maintain than a pushrod! just look in a SUMMIT catalog and compare the prices. you cant except that mustangs are mostly hype. in 1999 Car&Driver did a comparison of the N/A cobra vs. the WS6 and SS. and guess who was the slowest? the cobra! type C&R 1999: pony car comparison road test. so now what.
look just stfu man saying bla bla it has more cubic inches waaa waaa... u know that those dohc engine ford uses they stole that from the ricers with there dohc engines ricers use it to get decent power out of a 4 cylinder engine by making it dual/double over head cam while chevy stays to its original roots and uses old muscle pushrod engines 2 valves per cylinder.. so whats that chevy with just 2 valves? and ford with a dohc 4 valves?? excactly u fuck bag so dont be compaining about sum
WTF are you talking about. Did you knoe smart ass that GM has also NOW switched over to Overhaed design and no longer have pushrods??? This means that GM was behind FORD and Ricers for that matter and have only " now " caught up to modern technology... And yes Dumb Fuck... 65 cubes is exactly the amount it would take to COMPLETELY FUCK up a Camaro... And I might add that they would then have the same size engine... So now what....
u fkn stupid cunt face!! overhead is a pushrod engine u fkn stpid bitch!! overhead valve to be excatct! aka pushrod! u fkn stupid ass u know how fkn stupid u sound! and guess wat u just admititd that ford stole the ricers idea haha! fkn idiot overhead(ohv) = pushrod! ur a fkn idiot! ls7 all american pushrod N/A v8 that can shit all over anything ford with there DOHC 4 valves vtec ricer thecnology they stole plus supercharged!
oh heres something i found VERY interesting on LS1tech(.)com. someone posted an old MM & FF road test article of the 2001 Mustang Bullet. heres what they said of the mustangs compared to the SS, and i QUOTE -
"It pains us to say this, but a face full of tailights is what you may get if you race a Camaro SS with a stock Bullet, GT or Cobra. We flinched a few years back when we tested a stock LS1 Z28 and it went 12.89 at 108. but we attributed some of that to the cold, mineshaft air on our -
and its funny on how no gay ass mustang GT even the new one that has some variable timing bs aka vtec witch it stole that from the ricers to and it still cant beat a 5.7 2 valve pushrod engine ls1 camaro whooow! i feel sorry for you ford guys
Seriously- That should have been a Mach 1 win withreal stock to stock numbers- I've built both vehicles and TA's and Camaros can take stock Gt Mustangs no prob- Simple math- Mach Ones are VERY close to Cobra numbers on the track- We ran a Mach on Stock tires, with some slippage, and turned 12.89 at 109.
that ws6 had to have a fair amount of mods cause i own a stock 00 gt convertiblw automaqtic n i havent lost to my buddies 02 ws6 6peed stock on stock and i only 260 horse 4.6 2v the mach 1 is rated a 305hp on the 4.6 4vavle so yeah
man i hate that fealini and all you guys who race on the strip knw what i mean theres allways some one with more money and goes faster especially when u got everything you can think of in ur 4.6 o well id tell him a bigger s.c and open exhaust lol mustang would have ate that thing in the 1/4 or 8th mile
I'm tellin ya...Lol, Simple Math ! 5.7 Liters v.s. 4.6 Liters...NOT At All hard to figure out... I know the GM Boys like to believe that there is some special " Higher " power at work but, No... Just simple Math...
first you ford guys say that the OHC is better than GM's pushrods. but when one of you guys get beat, you change your story to saying "you guys have bigger engines!". well boohoo. go complain to the manufacturer, not us. the LS motors are cheaper to build and respond better to modifcations. (mods to you teenagers)
The Mach 1 weighs 3469 lbs and the WS6 weighs 3499 lbs, So pretty even. I can really feal a difference in performance when I am driving my Mach with passengers so a 200+ lb passenger will make a difference. Stock for stock, 5spd and 6 spd, I would put money on the Mach.
I wasnt making excuses, just simply stating that I/you can feel a difference with passengers, thus making the car slower. My argument was that stock for stock, the Mach would take the win, no passengers in either one. The Mach was underated at 305hp and 335tq so when the Mach has been proven closer to 320hp, wouldnt you then assume the tq numbers would also be a little closer to 345-350? The Mach has the same hp as the T/A and more tq. Mach takes the win, 13.13 @ 105.51 mph is the best Ive seen.
wow yay really???!!!! ive seen a stock trans am with lid and exhuast run 12.9 at 110 mph...... but really i didnt know that they had so much hp and torque i thought they were like the gt but with a cooler name
Ya they haul ass man, I scared myself a couple times when I first git it lol. If I can roast 1st and shift into 2nd and roast 2nd too then im happy lol. If you ever see one at a car lot, go test drive it. I swear you will be surprised.
the Machs arent as fast as you say. i raced a slighty modified Mach against my '01 ws6 when it was stock and he didnt pull on me till we hit 70mph. plus i ran a 13.2 bone stock on regular street tires with a 90 degree temp and 112 degree track temp. the N/A cobras were faster than the Machs and they were tested by car&driver (among others) not as fast as the f-bodies.
deadeyedickification ...I think you should watch the Video to the right of this one Called ( Stock Mustang Mach 1 VS a stock LS1 Z28! ) The Video with the YELLOW Mach 1... Oh, and the Mach 1 hangs right with the LS1, which I might add has 65 Extra Cubes than the Ford... How embarrassing for you GM Boys
OMG i just watched the vid you were talking about and obviously you didnt watch it! how embarrassing for you! the mach had 3.73 gears, x-pipe, and other mods vs. a BONE STOCK auto Z28! and the Z28 started pulling him at the end of the second race! LMFAO!!! you're the one who should feel embarrassed. watch the vid again shit-ass.
Ah, the Assmaro is the car with the 3.73 gears and the Mach 1 has an X-pipe ( Wow ) alert the press, the Mustang is now cheating ? LMFAO Pathetic, but typical of GM Homo's Oh , and the Mach OBVIOUSLY " Let Off " at the point you are referring of when you claim that the camaro is pulling on the Mustang at end of video... Yeah FUCKTARD... Sure the Camaro magically pulls on the Mach 1 after the first rate was deadnuts even???
my god you're such an angry person! so i watched the video 3 more times and yes the z28 DID start pulling on him right before the Mach let out. plus the Mach had an x-pipe AND was tuned. so the z28 did have 3.73 gears. MY BAD!!! those gears only help a car on dead stops not rolling starts. so yes you ARE a shit ass and the Mach DID have the advantage. and here we go with you Ford fags and the "65 cube" thing. Boo motherfucking Hoo!!! cry to the manufacturer, not to me! fucking kid.........
Kid ??? I'm NOT saying I'm OLD lil Bitch but at 30 years old I was out in Windsor Ontario fuckin up Camaros and Fireturds when you were still playing wave racer on your Nintendo 64 .. So around the time you had your first nut hairs growin and poppin zits I was already on the scene and I know what the fuck a camaro is... It's a Stone Age HICK Mobile and the guys that drive them usually have a mullet and no Girlfriend... Like You.
damn did you get off subject. for someone thats in there 30s you sure run your mouth reckless. WOW you sound like a really accomplished person lol!!! you completely ignored the fact that i proved you wrong in the other video. but its ok. deflecting is a fanboy does, which is what you obviously are. you can talk shit on youtube all you want, but when it comes down to actually racing you just sit on the sidelines.
Could be mechanical issues... Nobody ruled them out. Why would you be out filming a street race, let alone a rematch, if you had these problems? Hard to tell if the Mach is a 5spd or auto. I say the Mach lost because the WS6 was more heavily modded. I know that a full Bassani exhaust will add close to 30 HP to a Mach, so I guessed it would add that to a WS6.
Ya know..... It IS possible the Mach one had his own mechanical issues. Low and/or old oil, slipping clutch, or if its auto bad tranny....... Don't sit here and try to guess why one car won and the other lost cause you aren't mechanics and can't check out their cars.
yeah i did read the intro. anyhow that t/a looks like it was trapping about 8-10 mph more at the finish. imo that t/a probably has u/d pulleys and has been dyno tuned.
Damn, that Mustang did better than I had thought.
mekque 1 month ago
im so dropping my ls1 and putting a ls7 in it, then proceed to put a twin turbo kit in my car, lets see a honda keep up with that
xyzdorky66 6 months ago
shoulda put the lights down...you would have been more aerodynamic :P
xxxXW4NT3DXxxx 6 months ago
Yeah, I have an old '93 Dodge Shadow ES. Has the Mitsu V6, though not built yet. Raced a damn VW Beetle and was beat down. Figured it would be the case though, as I could hear that exhaust and the turbocharger spool up. :)
sylentmyst 8 months ago
ls1 says buh bye again.
kief4diamonds 1 year ago
trans spray???
bulldog190 1 year ago
seems like these cars switched exhausts on accident. slp on a mach 1 and bassani on a trans am.
both sound awesome, slp sounds great on high pitched modular's
willymywonka 1 year ago
so two close cars out of factory and you walk away and keep going?????
80thill 1 year ago
trans on spary????
80thill 1 year ago
No i wasnt spayn! all i had was hedders & complete borla exhaust
epl272000 1 year ago
this shows that ford dont know what there doing and general motors will always be a step ahead or a couple car lengths however u see it
TheDecker13 1 year ago
props to the bad ass TA. great running but damn fugly, sry
fastarkie 1 year ago
@fastarkie I like it, gives me a boner
ryanmtanner 1 year ago
trans walked another stang
sexysexy7 1 year ago
thinking of getting an affordable sports car,..wat do yal suggest?? that can hang with the best of em..? kida giving up on the mach
RMez31 1 year ago
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RMez31 1 year ago
@RMez31 Manuals have forged cranks if you want to add power down the road. Auto's are good for running good consistent times at the track, and are easier to launch. But it all comes down to preference. I prefer to drive a manual.
mikebosshard 1 year ago
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RMez31 1 year ago
the outcome i expected before hitting play button!!!
use2slam2 1 year ago
The Ford/GM/Chrysler rivalry is all part of the fun. It's like cheering for your favorite sports team. This is the first time in years that the rivalry has flared up so much, with all the new muscle of the past 16 years it's great to see, after the 80s when they stopped making fast cars. If you don't own a domestic muscle car you're missing out on the fun.
Roadghost88 1 year ago
great video! you just need to pully that mach 1! its the same 24valve as the o3-04 cobra! soo sick!
bluefox121 1 year ago
Only major difference is, the GM car will out last that ford. That T/A will never give you problems
pkhunting112 1 year ago
@pkhunting112 what the hell are you talking about? Camaro's and Trans AM's are known to break down all the time. 1 of my friends had a ls1 camaro with 82,000 miles and he had to keep fixing shit on it, so he sold it for a mustang that has 90,000 now with full bolt ons and everything, and hasnt had a problem. My other friends z28 with 128,000 has had to have been in the shop atleast 10 times now. Ford is known to be reliant, GM is not.
IamAtree000001 1 year ago
@IamAtree000001 idk man its never the lt1 or ls1 that has the prob its everything else for example....my 95 ss impala had only full dynomax exhaust and a diablotuner and the trans couldnt hold had 2 be rebuilt twice along with the rear once...though the guy who did the exhuast the 1st time was a con man....fucking ziggy..u have 2 admit the engines run forever
bergaflickal 1 year ago
good runs guys lol loved how the LS just kikd in the torque
CHEVYCAMARO4GEN 1 year ago
Nice races.
brianbge2 1 year ago
Ford all the way any time you see a ford and a gm racing the gm has at least a half a litre on the ford5.0 vs ls1,lt1,350 351vs408 etc.Besides the mustang is the all american car yeah the vette has been out longer without interuption unlike the camaro but ther for people who r going through a mid-life crisis.Fords also sound way better than any gm could ever imagine, pure music.My dads a gm guy and he can't stand that both my 94 and my 04 mach sound better than his camaro's.
e303gt 1 year ago
@e303gt whining about displacement? That's weak, Mustangs are typically lighter as well. That equalizes the displacement difference.
The Corvette is for those with mid-life crisis? That might account for some buyers but not all the buyers as a whole. The Corvette (C5/C5 Z06/C6/C6 Z06/C6 GS) are the MOST bang for buck all round performance you can get PERIOD.
Your "sound" example is purely speculative, I disagree with you. I feel that my LT1 and LS1 sound better than Mustangs (GT/Mach1/Cobra).
thetravdawg 1 year ago
@thetravdawg I'm not whining I'm stating facts and gm guys are the first to say"You had to use a supercharger to beat me" or power adder in general I can't help that gm likes to make lead sleds just like I can't help that ford use's small ci motors with forced induction on there higher end cars.Maybe the new z06 WAS the most bang for the buck but now you can buy a 412hp mustang GT for 30-35 grand vs a 505hp z06 for 70 do the math and you'll find your wrong 85$perhp vs 138$.The sound thing is tru
e303gt 1 year ago
@e303gt While you're mentioning facts, with the exception of the 2011 5.0 Ford did need a Supercharger to beat and N/A Camaro Z28/Trans Am. It's a Fact.
Saying GM make lead sleds is a little hypocritical since Mustangs are primarily straight line cars as well, get your facts straight.
The Z06/ZR1/GS ARE the best bang for buck all round performance cars. You need SIGNIFICANT suspension mods to even bring a GT500 up to the course performance of a standard Corvette.
The sound thing is opinion.
thetravdawg 1 year ago
@thetravdawg You my friend are the typical gm guy my extra .7-.9 litres of motor doesn't matter but i'm gonna whine about the little heaton on top of your manifold.How many times do you go to a road course compared to a drag strip.I guarantee its a 20 to 1 ratio if not more in the dragstrips favor so whats the point in building a car for it,I don't know you tell me.Even after you buy a gt500 you have an extra 20 grand for suspension mods before you get into a C6/Zo6price .Mustangs sound better
e303gt 1 year ago
@e303gt I only brought up the S/C because you whined about displacement.
People that buy a C6 Z06 are a little different, the Z06 is essentially a track car. You're assuming that people pay only 50K for the GT500, people regularly pay over sticker for the GT500. The C6GS is comparable in base price and also outperforms the GT500 stock.
You say Mustangs sound better but I disagree (as would a lot of other people) but I am used to seeing Mustangs in my rear view so don't hear them for that long.
thetravdawg 1 year ago
@thetravdawg What ever the reason you whined about the s/c you did just like ya'll always do .It's wierd that all you see in your rearview is mustangs cuz all I see in my rearview are gm's.~On the same token I also assumed that people were paying only sticker for the new corvette which is not the case so my cars won without me being biased and only using facts not statements. Some people do think gm's sound better than mustangs those people are what US higher fuctioning people call retards lol.
e303gt 1 year ago
@e303gt haha you said I "whined" about the S/C. w/e Not in your '94 Mustang GT you don't & stock for stock LS1s are faster than Mach1s. There are numerous videos on here where Mach1s are taken by stock LS1s so unless you're running some serious bolt-ons against stock LS1s you're full of crap.
Speaking of retards you talk the sound of your cars up yet have ZERO videos of them. You're looking like a fanboy poser with no videos.
p.s. what's a "heaton"? I'm aware of the eaton S/C on terminators.
thetravdawg 1 year ago
@thetravdawg I am A fan man far from a poser why would I put a video up of a combo that the world has seen a million times over My mustangs sounds like every other mustang just like your camaro sounds like every other camaro.I Own 3 mustangs im pretty sure that means im a non poser i'll see if i can't find a video camera lying around and put a video up that makes my car look faster than what it is like you do.Eatons are bad 4 knock up high due to heat so add a H 2 the front of eaton-Heaton
e303gt 1 year ago
@e303gt My videos hardly make my cars look faster than they are. The videos are what they are, post some videos and then talk your trash.
thetravdawg 1 year ago
@thetravdawg Blahhhhh B.S the fastest ls1 f-body car was the ws6 transam yes thats right faster than the camaro ss. Even its no instant w against a stock mach 1. Whoever is in front on the takeoff usually wins the race with the ls1 coming back after 5th gear seeing as how the mach 1 packs a 5spd and the ls1 a 6spd. Those two cars are more evenly matched than people realize.
tyrone121285 1 year ago
@tyrone121285 The majority of the videos I have seen on youtube of stockish Mach1s versus stockish LS1s have been in the LS1s favor (whether Camaro or Trans Am).
My experiences with Mach1s were before I bought my LS1. I raced two presumably stock Mach1s in my full exhaust LT1. The first was an auto and he went down on a freeway run. The second was a manual and he had at least exhaust and he tried to jump me from 20mph and by the time we let out I was around 95mph and had a fender on him.
thetravdawg 1 year ago
@thetravdawg anything can happen on the freeway. Thats why I prefer running at the track.
tyrone121285 1 year ago
@tyrone121285 and anything can't happen at the track? What do you run at the track? Didn't see any videos of your car on your page.
Auto vs auto the LS1 has the advantage because of a better auto and better gearing. The manual Mach1 is the only one that has a driver's chance against a auto/manual LS1.
thetravdawg 1 year ago
@thetravdawg I own a 94 mustang. I'll stick to what I say it depends on who's in front leaving. I'll give no extra credit to the mustang or take away from the camaro.
tyrone121285 1 year ago
@tyrone121285 It depends on driver, the LS1 pulls harder stock for stock making the same/more hp and more torque. Doesn't matter if you give or take away credit, the fact remains the LS1 auto vs auto and manual vs manual is faster equally driven.
thetravdawg 1 year ago
@thetravdawg Is that why they trap the same thing quartermile because the ls1 is purely faster. Moreover, if it depends on the driver then their is no advantage of one car over the other like I said whoevers in front off the line usually wins
tyrone121285 1 year ago
@tyrone121285 Best trap speed for a stock Mach1 has been 106mph and the best for an LS1 has been 107-108. That would be faster yes? Equally driven the LS1 is faster. Even with a better launch by the Mach1 the LS1 will reel in the Stang when both cars are equally driven (unless they're both autos in which case the LS1 will be faster regardless of driver).
thetravdawg 1 year ago
@thetravdawg Mach1's have trapped 108 before. Its all the drivers.
tyrone121285 1 year ago
@tyrone121285 I have watched TONS of videos of stock Mach1s and have yet to find a single one trapping above 106mph (feel free to post the video you saw of the 108mph trap speed).
/watch?v=tuPdVDfZzXs
/watch?v=8sls42t4LcY&feature=related
/watch?v=J4Dv34F1CPE
Before you say those are limited production models remember that the the Mach1 was also a limited production and all models in the video links above were available factory options.
/watch?v=fLFZiDKUotQ (base Z28 dyno 286+ rwhp = 320+ hp)
thetravdawg 1 year ago
@thetravdawg You don't have to take my word for it but its been done besides whats the use in posting a vid. The following argument will be whether or not the car was stock.
tyrone121285 1 year ago
i had a 99 ls1 z28 auto with 107k, later got an 03 mach1.i have been a ford guy since i was younger(95gt, 85gt, 96 cobra, 03 mach1) but i would take ls1-the 4.6 just doesnt have the cubes to compare....and i dont mean just half second wins, etc...i mean gm hit the nail on the head with choosing a larger old style pushrod engine; the feel , the tone, the power band, and the f-body styling/handling...gm for the win, sorry ford, 5.4 was rite choice
GlockShooter83 1 year ago
Mach 1 isn't for racing. It's a mobile orchestra.
I'm more into Chevys then Fords, but I really don't give a fuck if the Mach 1 is slow. It sounds fucking sweet.
wildbloodydragon 1 year ago
I love the top end of LS1's. It's like a tease to the mustangs but once I hit around 3500-4000rpm it wraps up real quick. Good video, atleast you're not afraid to show a loss
blackbird0230 1 year ago
IRONMANTA, R u like an assclown in some circus show or some shit like that, how bout u try a shelby 500 and eat a bit of dust or are u just happy with the fact u won a race with a driver who cannnnnnnn not shift Id outrun u in my 93 explorer, yes u heard me right clean the wax outta ur fucken ears slapnutz, Let me say it slower 4 u ! I could outrun ur car with a Ford Explorer, Explorer ! 93, 93, cause i know how to drive, AND RICH PPL DRIVE FORD GTS
1974nyarlathotep 1 year ago
@1974nyarlathotep...You sir are a dumbass.
deanjoe1 1 year ago
@1974nyarlathotep 1> ford gt's are slow the zo6 gets em 2nd i own a ws6 n have smoked yes thats right smoked a shelby gt500 and saleen s281 no prob so u sir mr slapnut yes im talking to u 1974nyarlathotep-slapnut that i drive gm y? because y drive a ford, hell i drive gm cuz i want to go fast i want power so sorry brosiff u cant get that outa a shitstang ford ashes to ashes dust to dust if it werent for fords my tools would rust and might i say that all ford owners are extremrmly oblivious cuz
m3talman774 1 year ago
@m3talman774 and what do you have in your car?
cobraman281SVT 1 year ago
@1974nyarlathotep lets think here hmmm ford atleast they circled the problem
m3talman774 1 year ago
Mustang needs a supercharger or at least N2O come on man get it done already
Conservativesaregood 1 year ago
@Conservativesaregood
2011 bro just wait. 12.7 for your fucking dumbass.
RaNdY04gt 1 year ago
that ws6 is walking all over that mach 1 like its supposed to.
mrtriplesix 1 year ago
turn traction control off quit fucking bogging on your launch silly kids
nickcranfield2008 1 year ago
i have a 04 mach1 and gears probally made the most difference, it would really help you get more than one on the ss out of the hole and help ur top end too.
jcooley04 1 year ago
You would need a Bad Ass "Bird" to run with the last two Cobra's turning 9.70's, and 10.38 (AVG) daily driven Stang's we built ON PUMP GAS. Thats about the time I order my LS Engine customers new Engines. Respect... Like them both but the MOD Cobra 5.2 (Stroked slightly) engines are damn near bullitt proof... I had to say something after the "I can beat a pullied +++ Cobra with my stock TA. YEAH- Thats rediculous.
cantbsdave 2 years ago
im a diehard ford fan but cmon guys we would all rather have either one of these than rice right lmao
brett347nos 2 years ago
why fight ABOUT LS1'S AND THE 4.6 DOHC? I AM A HUGE FAN OF THE LS ENGINES AND THE FORD MOD MOTORS-HOW CAN YOU REALLY LIKE ONE AND NOT THE OTHER? GM HAS THE DISPLACEMENT AND GOOD OLD SNAP YOUR NECK POWER, FORD HAS THE HIGH RPM, LOWER CID WORKHORSE...IF ITS AMERICAN-ITS COOL WITH ME...MAKING DEATH THREATS OVER CARS THAT HAVE THE SAME HERITAGE IS ASSANINE, CHILL OUT
GlockShooter83 2 years ago
so you are saying my LS1 01 camaro SS 6-speed has no top end?? pfst, please.
mrtriplesix 1 year ago
@mrtriplesix no, not at all...im simply saying the 4.6, is designed to rev higher faster!!!!the power bands are different for these engines, why so defensive....i love the ls1
GlockShooter83 1 year ago
Both these cars are badass. American Muscle FTW.
Mazen189 2 years ago 17
LOL.... GEEEEEZE You MUST Be RICH ! ! ! LOL... A Three Year Old Suzuki, and Three F- Body Junk Heaps... Lol, But you were DEAD ON when you said that your ONLY chance at beating a COBRA would be if you went out and bought one... Lol.... My GOD you are STUPID... Way to PROVE YOUR Initial Point.... LOL...
saharadipity 2 years ago
haha you humor me with your consistent retard remarks. ok so where is your videos of your mach??????? where????? i will take footage of my ws6 hitting high 10's and my bike outrunning a cobra just for you next opportunity i get. I have a friend with a 2.8 kenne bell that will be glad. hell people like you who are poor and argumentative trailer trash, make me glad i am an intelligent wealthy person. thank you for making me realize I am better off than you in this world. I appreciate it
IRONMANTA 2 years ago
honestly what do you do for a living, suck off the employees after hours at the Ford plant in Detroit. . Oh yeah so when are we gonna race ....???again..... you keep avoiding the initial question. Hell i would outrun you then pull over aftewards and beat the shit out of you just because i can. oh yeah i wont get that opportunity cause you are a scared pussy.
IRONMANTA 2 years ago
Awe,... A Keyboard Tough Guy ... FUCKTARD you have it ALL Wrong ! After I was done with you and your ( Flamer Turd ) I would Pull Over and SLAP your GIRL on her (opened) and (willing) mouth with my C*CK right in front of you... THEN You would probably buy a Mustang and FORGIVE her ! ! ! But then you would go home and see me bending your moms over your bed and it would be too much 2 take so you would just K*LL Yourself !!! LOL... STOP Trying, Lil BITCH... You and Your Bicycle are PATHETIC...
saharadipity 2 years ago
saharadipity- so you got a Roush? Does it make you feel better to spend an extra might as well say 10 grand to run with a stock f-body...... Yes I said stock F-body. Stock for stock Gm's been beating up on Fords for years. I did like the old 5.0's and the new 5.0 looks promising.
I'd run ya in my bird, I got twin turbo's and we all ready know how that would end up.
jderck660r 2 years ago
I think ROUSH is charging the extra $10,000 because their customers will be that much further away from looking like a Firechicken...
saharadipity 2 years ago
hahaha somebody is mad that they cant be aman and accept a challenge. Still avoiding the question with childish rants and tantrums. I am a tough guy, and you would would piss your pant if you only realized how bad i could fuckin cave your skull in with my bare hands, nothing would bring me more satisfaction to meet you in person and make you my bitch.
IRONMANTA 2 years ago
LOL...
saharadipity 2 years ago
Naw... The 2v is now gone ...but if you'd like I would GLEEFULLY Injoy watching your PIECE OF BIRD TURD in my rearview FALL to my 03 Mach 1 4v like so many b4 you, Lil Bitch...... Oh and if the comparison between a WS6 and a Fox Body is close , there is no question between the Edge Mustang and a Firechicken
saharadipity 2 years ago
omg trans am are fucking beast fuck mUtSANGS to fucking hell baby to FUCKING HELL
pontiacboy63 2 years ago
Yeah, this Comment left by pontiacboy63 is a perfect example as to the I.Q. of a " Flaming Chicken " Die Hard...
saharadipity 2 years ago
IECStang- in a way i agree with you but i must say nothing putts a bigger smile on my face then stomping a stang and sending its back to its stall beating and broken by a bow-tie. I love american muscle and respect all that have them, but if you dont want to get sent home better stick with the chevy.
Strongtube68 2 years ago
The poostang lives on because their is alot of women buyin up them v-6's.
that's the truth. I should know I build em.
jderck660r 2 years ago
but whos buying the almighty v8's? leme drop you a clue MEN
halow4 2 years ago
haha, there are a ton of v-6 firebirds and camaros out there driven by women as well. They should do away with the v-6's in these cars. Thats a waste.
bobert866 2 years ago 3
Yeah and they discontinued the Trans Am's because the Mustang was Kicking their asses in every aspect. I should know. I was fu*king them up on the street with my 2001 ROUSH for years...
saharadipity 2 years ago
i would gladly race that 2v peice of cock custard you call a rousch. OVERPRICED POS GT! how much money did you piss away to get NO PERFROMANCE GAINS! I bet chicks would like the fact my car would walk your ass by 50 bus lengths! IF you think the fox body looks better than a ws6 then take a survey and you will find ITS UGLY AS FUCK!
IRONMANTA 2 years ago
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saharadipity 2 years ago
haha haha haha haha mach 1 your joking right.
godamn your a liar. You dont even fuckin own a mustang, but if by some chance you actually do actually own one, please dear god lets set up a race because i would embarrass you! My best friend owns a mach and svt cobra. he sold them both and bought a z06. I like machs, but have beaten every mach I have raced period!
IRONMANTA 2 years ago
Lol... LMFAO, Ha ha LOL Lol...Ha Ha Ha... Im Laughing at you right now like Cartman from South Park when he seen the MIDGET... Time to wake up from your nap there bud cause you Must be Dreamin... There are COBRAS out there running around the street with over 800 hp. with nothing more than a pulley change, upgraded fuel system, cpu programming, cams, exhaust, and high octane fuel... Can U Say ( Forget Z06 ) ZR1 KILR
saharadipity 2 years ago
whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. can you say you have no life! i challenged you to a race and all you can say is i changed my spark plugs on my cobra and it made 800 rwhp, and i have a magic leprechaun under the hood who sprinkles fairy dust on my balls so i am a better driver. YOU ARENT IN TOUCH WITH REALITY MY FRIEND! 9 sec ls1's all day where i live at runnin turbo's, and yes they skullfuck cobras. your a delusional fanboy!
IRONMANTA 2 years ago
hell i own a 07 hayabusa with powercommander and small shot. and i will race your cobra or your ford gt, or your what the fuck ever you bring, and dont give a damn. My ws6 is just a hobby car. I own 2 camaros as well and may buy your beloved cobra just to outrun you and then sell it.
IRONMANTA 2 years ago
ford for life, fuck the rest
waklammy 2 years ago
what i dont understand is why ford and chevy guys feel like they need to argue about who has the faster car or who's car is better? its the never ending battle and frankly im getting sick of it. thats all i ever see after a video like this and its old news. why cant you just say good runs guys and be done with it?the mach 1 and the ls1 f-bodies are very cool cars and they are both equally fast, so who cares if the mach 1 is slower or the ls1 is faster? does it really matter that much?
IECStang 2 years ago 13
@IECStang They are not both equally fast, and the arguments is not always between Chevy and Ford. It's racing all other cars in general, Ford just happens to be Chevy's best competition, and Chevy Ford's best competition. It's a rivalry, like certain football teams have, this rivalry will never end.
Quatermain98526 1 year ago
@IECStang I agree, any car is as good as it's owner takes care of it!
blabarr82 1 year ago
@IECStang Are you serious with this post? You must not watch or ever played sports in your life. Competition is part of being human. Every man, obviously except for you, is competitive. As a Chevy man, I'm always gonna cheer for GM. That doesn't mean I dispise any of the Ford and Mopar guys. If you're sosick ofit,maybe you should live somewhere in the Amazon with a tribe that doesn't have cars and trucks. Get real dude.
LuiSS95Impala 1 year ago
@LuiSS95Impala Yeah, it's always great to be competitive, but when you have people saying, *name* sucks and *name* is better just 'cause, it really does get annoying. I personally root for Ford, but I know when they are beat. A 4.6L against a 6.1/6.2L is just difficult to pit them against.
sylentmyst 1 year ago
@sylentmyst It's obvious that you've dealt with immature people. People from the clubs I’ve been in would talk Ford smack (definitely the GM guys) but they would all appreciate your ride (especially the import guys). I’d talk smack too by saying Found On Road Dead, but I’d still appreciate your Stang. Hell, I’ve considered buying a drop-top Cobra. And, if I did, I’d talk smack to the GM guys when in my Stang, and I own 2 GM’s!!!!
LuiSS95Impala 1 year ago
@sylentmyst I hear ya. I don't knock anyone's ride. If they're fast, they're fast. I can respect that. I got schooled once by a dude in a Jetta. Took me on take off and held the lead by a 1/4 car length. I didn't hate him, hell I admired his ride!!
LuiSS95Impala 8 months ago
@IECStang
Without these feuds, neither company would push harder for a better car for customers. The only reason they come up with such good cars to compare with is because of these arguments. So you're complaining about something that benefits the consumer, namely you.
egalamay25 1 year ago 2
bitch and moan that us ford guys have a suercharger. 281 ci engine vs a 350 ci, theres a little bit of a difference there. And dont cry because a pulley intake exhaust and tune cobra (about 1500) will smoke a cam heads ls1 and you gm guys know its true.
89lxstang 2 years ago
my cam / stock unported heads Ws6 beats pullied cobras..... dont get too cocky there sparky... oh and LS1's are 346 and have very little in common with the chevy 350, please dont sound so ignorant.
balexwogel 2 years ago
@balexwogel big difference 346 350 lol. yea an ls1 will beat a mach 1 but you need more than just a cam intake and exhaust to beat a pullied bult on cobra.
89lxstang 2 years ago
umm nahhh ya dont, take a look at my videos.. cam intake exhaust i can beat pullied cobras, its pretty even up until 120 ish and then i pull ahead slightly
balexwogel 2 years ago
wait 91tt300zx your not talking about this video are you??? because a 2003 Mustang Mach 1 is NOT a terminator....? HAHAHA
I have a 2001 Camaro Z28 & a stock terminator isnt all different from an LS1. yea of course its faster. its got a supercharger. BUT they do only run high 12s to low 13s... & if your a good driver in a LS1 Camaro you can get into the high 12s low 13s.
BUT good luck finding a stock terminator these days... haha
DoggyB22 2 years ago
and the cobra video you were reffering to; the trans am missed 2 gears. got anything else?
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
You're RIGHT !!! I am somewhat of a Tool... Im the tool that you mother utilizes to " Get Off " EVERY NIGHT !!!
saharadipity 2 years ago
once again deflecting!!! how did i know!?
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
Or check this one out COBRA VS WS6 W/NITROUS I'm done arguing with ya boyee
saharadipity 2 years ago
Video : LS1 Vs Mach1 Check it out
saharadipity 2 years ago
wow, another video of a modded mach1 vs a stock f-body. howd i know you'd find a video like that. im done with you. you're a tool.
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
you're getting off subject now because ive proved you wrong at every turn.
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
Tell Ya Mommy to bring you're sister too tonight, and if your girl wants to cum to ( which I know she does ) she can... Lil BITCH Baby... I now know what your problem is , besides having a 4 in. cock, It's that you own a Piece of SHIT WS6, which never gets or has gotten attention from the Opposite Sex because the car looks like a " Bag of Smashed Assholes " and sounds Even worse... kinda like a Beretta with 2 extra cylinders
saharadipity 2 years ago
LOL now you're acting your age! WOW that really hurts my feelings. cry alittle more for me and everyone else here. please, it would make me smile.
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
oh yea if any of you want to see the article i just quoted from for yourself, then go to google and type in "MM & FF 2001 Bullitt Article 2. it shud be the 3rd one from the top called 01 Bullitt Article 2. unlike saharadipity i can back my ass up with facts.
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
Holy Fuck ...It's SIMPLE Let me ask you... Do you believe if the Bullit had the 65 extra cubes that the Camaro has that the bullet could go faster than it does right now ?
saharadipity 2 years ago
WTF!? this old ass argument again!? the stangs have always been LIGHTER. ITS SIMPLE. the f-bodies have always been ~400lbs heavier than the stangs. did nothing i just say or quote get through to u? u idiots have always preached with hard-ons that the ford OHC's are better and have more power per liter and bla bla bla. but when a GM comes along and beats u, u cry that it has a bigger fucking engine! u see the stupidity here? i mean are u retarded? do i need to type s l o w e r ?
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
No cauze the Only thing I like " SLOW " is when your mommy is sucking my cock. I Don't know where you get your info. from, er wait, yes I do... Need for speed on you PS3... A 02 Camaro SS weighs 3411 lbs. wooo 30 lbs heavier than a Mach 1... Probably the BIGGER engine it has Dumb Fuck???
saharadipity 2 years ago
WTF??? i own an '01 WS6 and the curb weight in the door jam says 4098lbs. they are basically the same car. id like to know where YOU get YOUR info. you're a fucking idiot fanboy. "boohoo f-bodies have bigger motors boohoohoo" what a fucking baby. you dont have an argument. everytime i prove you wrong, you deflect. so what about that "stock" mach1 vid you were raving about, eh? EXACTLY. just stfu and crawl back in the hole you came from boy.
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
Well the last hole I pulled out of was your moms Twat, so I guess you like the idea of me banging her... That's kinda weird deadeyedick !!!
saharadipity 2 years ago
deflect some more. please prove me wrong on anything i said. nothing you said bothers me because its the internet. you're pussy-ass can be as tough as you want sitting at a computer. so tell me why a stock z28 can beat a tuned mach 1 with x-pipe. oh wait you cant cuz you're gonna say somthing about my mom. WOW what a shock.
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
if it did it would get like 2 miles to the gallon dumbass. the fbody with bigger engine gets better mpg all day long! it is scientifically a better engine bar none.
IRONMANTA 2 years ago
- hard-earned dollars every year to whip bowtie butt. But its time for Ford to send in the reinforcements. We cant do this on our own, guys.-J.C."
WOW. thats from your own MM&FF team. GM has always been able to build badass cars BY THEIRSELVES w/o aftermarket tuning help. but Ford has. hence Shelby, Saleen, and Rousche. so saharadipity tell me; how is Ford better again?
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
- one camshaft. Pricing? Base z28 Coupe: $21,645. SS option $3950. Destination $575. Total: $26,170. ours had a few extras and topped out at 29-large. Now, dont kill the messenger. We're not advocating selling your mustang to buy a GM product so please dont cancel your subscriptions. This is just to open your eyes and those of the folks at Ford engine development and Team Mustang. We've been waving the blue oval flag for decades, fighting the good fight and spending thousands of our -
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
- test day. No way was this SS gonna run 12's in this heat. Oops. it went 12.96 at 107.43 in lousy air with a near full tank of gas. not to mention a 13.06 at 108.71 later in the hottest part of the day. With any kind of air, the SS might have gone 12.70's or better. On stock radials. Back at Crazy Horse, it pumped out 321 to the rear wheels on the dynojet. Are you feeling ill yet? Thats 42 more than the last cobra we tested and 82 more than the Bullet. but gee Uncle henry, it only has -
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
and no 65 cubes would not "completely fuck up" a camaro. the fastest production car in the world (Ultimate Aero TT) houses a PUSHROD V8. modern technology? OHC's are WAY more expensive to upgrade and maintain than a pushrod! just look in a SUMMIT catalog and compare the prices. you cant except that mustangs are mostly hype. in 1999 Car&Driver did a comparison of the N/A cobra vs. the WS6 and SS. and guess who was the slowest? the cobra! type C&R 1999: pony car comparison road test. so now what.
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
Hey deadeyedickification ??? Here's another video for ya ( 2004 Mach 1 5sp Vs 2001 Camaro Z28 6sp )
saharadipity 2 years ago
look just stfu man saying bla bla it has more cubic inches waaa waaa... u know that those dohc engine ford uses they stole that from the ricers with there dohc engines ricers use it to get decent power out of a 4 cylinder engine by making it dual/double over head cam while chevy stays to its original roots and uses old muscle pushrod engines 2 valves per cylinder.. so whats that chevy with just 2 valves? and ford with a dohc 4 valves?? excactly u fuck bag so dont be compaining about sum
lajefadecarebear 2 years ago
WTF are you talking about. Did you knoe smart ass that GM has also NOW switched over to Overhaed design and no longer have pushrods??? This means that GM was behind FORD and Ricers for that matter and have only " now " caught up to modern technology... And yes Dumb Fuck... 65 cubes is exactly the amount it would take to COMPLETELY FUCK up a Camaro... And I might add that they would then have the same size engine... So now what....
saharadipity 2 years ago
u fkn stupid cunt face!! overhead is a pushrod engine u fkn stpid bitch!! overhead valve to be excatct! aka pushrod! u fkn stupid ass u know how fkn stupid u sound! and guess wat u just admititd that ford stole the ricers idea haha! fkn idiot overhead(ohv) = pushrod! ur a fkn idiot! ls7 all american pushrod N/A v8 that can shit all over anything ford with there DOHC 4 valves vtec ricer thecnology they stole plus supercharged!
lajefadecarebear 2 years ago
oh heres something i found VERY interesting on LS1tech(.)com. someone posted an old MM & FF road test article of the 2001 Mustang Bullet. heres what they said of the mustangs compared to the SS, and i QUOTE -
"It pains us to say this, but a face full of tailights is what you may get if you race a Camaro SS with a stock Bullet, GT or Cobra. We flinched a few years back when we tested a stock LS1 Z28 and it went 12.89 at 108. but we attributed some of that to the cold, mineshaft air on our -
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
65 cubic little inches u fuck tard! complaing on how gay ass mustang use DOHC ricer technology and 4 valves to berly keep up with a pushrod 2 valves!
lajefadecarebear 2 years ago
AND THE CUMARO HAS 65 EXTRA CUBES .....and your complaing about an X-Pipe??? Fucking Lame Lil Puusy !!!
saharadipity 2 years ago
and its funny on how no gay ass mustang GT even the new one that has some variable timing bs aka vtec witch it stole that from the ricers to and it still cant beat a 5.7 2 valve pushrod engine ls1 camaro whooow! i feel sorry for you ford guys
lajefadecarebear 2 years ago
Seriously- That should have been a Mach 1 win withreal stock to stock numbers- I've built both vehicles and TA's and Camaros can take stock Gt Mustangs no prob- Simple math- Mach Ones are VERY close to Cobra numbers on the track- We ran a Mach on Stock tires, with some slippage, and turned 12.89 at 109.
cantbsdave 2 years ago
that ws6 had to have a fair amount of mods cause i own a stock 00 gt convertiblw automaqtic n i havent lost to my buddies 02 ws6 6peed stock on stock and i only 260 horse 4.6 2v the mach 1 is rated a 305hp on the 4.6 4vavle so yeah
2000gtjr 2 years ago
you area straight up lier or he has no business behind the wheel your car could break low 14's post some proof if your gonna talk shit young man
nasty02transam 2 years ago
man i hate that fealini and all you guys who race on the strip knw what i mean theres allways some one with more money and goes faster especially when u got everything you can think of in ur 4.6 o well id tell him a bigger s.c and open exhaust lol mustang would have ate that thing in the 1/4 or 8th mile
fordboy111591 2 years ago
I'm tellin ya...Lol, Simple Math ! 5.7 Liters v.s. 4.6 Liters...NOT At All hard to figure out... I know the GM Boys like to believe that there is some special " Higher " power at work but, No... Just simple Math...
saharadipity 2 years ago
Would't even need 65 cubes... Hell if the Mach had another 30 cubes would have done it in this race.
saharadipity 2 years ago
talk is cheap! need to prove it first.
epl34 2 years ago
Give the Mustang 65 Extra Cubes so that it's the same and then we'll see what's up........
saharadipity 2 years ago
but that doesnt exist now does it? hmm
sinisterseven8 2 years ago
first you ford guys say that the OHC is better than GM's pushrods. but when one of you guys get beat, you change your story to saying "you guys have bigger engines!". well boohoo. go complain to the manufacturer, not us. the LS motors are cheaper to build and respond better to modifcations. (mods to you teenagers)
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
pretty much the same weight the t/a has a bigger displacement motor thats all more hp id rather have the mach 1modular motors have a lot of potential
gtmuscrat 2 years ago
The Mach 1 weighs 3469 lbs and the WS6 weighs 3499 lbs, So pretty even. I can really feal a difference in performance when I am driving my Mach with passengers so a 200+ lb passenger will make a difference. Stock for stock, 5spd and 6 spd, I would put money on the Mach.
04COMach1 2 years ago
Sorry, cuz t/a had a passenger 200+ too. it' s just mach did'nt have enough hp. or torque.
epl34 2 years ago
I wasnt making excuses, just simply stating that I/you can feel a difference with passengers, thus making the car slower. My argument was that stock for stock, the Mach would take the win, no passengers in either one. The Mach was underated at 305hp and 335tq so when the Mach has been proven closer to 320hp, wouldnt you then assume the tq numbers would also be a little closer to 345-350? The Mach has the same hp as the T/A and more tq. Mach takes the win, 13.13 @ 105.51 mph is the best Ive seen.
04COMach1 2 years ago
wow yay really???!!!! ive seen a stock trans am with lid and exhuast run 12.9 at 110 mph...... but really i didnt know that they had so much hp and torque i thought they were like the gt but with a cooler name
tamponslayer 2 years ago
Ya they haul ass man, I scared myself a couple times when I first git it lol. If I can roast 1st and shift into 2nd and roast 2nd too then im happy lol. If you ever see one at a car lot, go test drive it. I swear you will be surprised.
04COMach1 2 years ago
I'm getting a Mach 1 in Dec with the intention or putting a ATI Procharger on it... Maybe custom cams and a really good tune...
saharadipity 2 years ago
yea i was talking to a friend a few days ago and they mentioned to me that there exactly like the termis but without the blower...is that true???
tamponslayer 2 years ago
the Machs arent as fast as you say. i raced a slighty modified Mach against my '01 ws6 when it was stock and he didnt pull on me till we hit 70mph. plus i ran a 13.2 bone stock on regular street tires with a 90 degree temp and 112 degree track temp. the N/A cobras were faster than the Machs and they were tested by car&driver (among others) not as fast as the f-bodies.
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
deadeyedickification ...I think you should watch the Video to the right of this one Called ( Stock Mustang Mach 1 VS a stock LS1 Z28! ) The Video with the YELLOW Mach 1... Oh, and the Mach 1 hangs right with the LS1, which I might add has 65 Extra Cubes than the Ford... How embarrassing for you GM Boys
saharadipity 2 years ago
OMG i just watched the vid you were talking about and obviously you didnt watch it! how embarrassing for you! the mach had 3.73 gears, x-pipe, and other mods vs. a BONE STOCK auto Z28! and the Z28 started pulling him at the end of the second race! LMFAO!!! you're the one who should feel embarrassed. watch the vid again shit-ass.
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
Ah, the Assmaro is the car with the 3.73 gears and the Mach 1 has an X-pipe ( Wow ) alert the press, the Mustang is now cheating ? LMFAO Pathetic, but typical of GM Homo's Oh , and the Mach OBVIOUSLY " Let Off " at the point you are referring of when you claim that the camaro is pulling on the Mustang at end of video... Yeah FUCKTARD... Sure the Camaro magically pulls on the Mach 1 after the first rate was deadnuts even???
saharadipity 2 years ago
my god you're such an angry person! so i watched the video 3 more times and yes the z28 DID start pulling on him right before the Mach let out. plus the Mach had an x-pipe AND was tuned. so the z28 did have 3.73 gears. MY BAD!!! those gears only help a car on dead stops not rolling starts. so yes you ARE a shit ass and the Mach DID have the advantage. and here we go with you Ford fags and the "65 cube" thing. Boo motherfucking Hoo!!! cry to the manufacturer, not to me! fucking kid.........
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
Kid ??? I'm NOT saying I'm OLD lil Bitch but at 30 years old I was out in Windsor Ontario fuckin up Camaros and Fireturds when you were still playing wave racer on your Nintendo 64 .. So around the time you had your first nut hairs growin and poppin zits I was already on the scene and I know what the fuck a camaro is... It's a Stone Age HICK Mobile and the guys that drive them usually have a mullet and no Girlfriend... Like You.
saharadipity 2 years ago
damn did you get off subject. for someone thats in there 30s you sure run your mouth reckless. WOW you sound like a really accomplished person lol!!! you completely ignored the fact that i proved you wrong in the other video. but its ok. deflecting is a fanboy does, which is what you obviously are. you can talk shit on youtube all you want, but when it comes down to actually racing you just sit on the sidelines.
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
200 extra pounds wont let one car walk another like that ws6 walked the mach. just doesnt happen.
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
Good race all things considered. Would like to have seen one race minus passenger though.
lunarson1967 2 years ago
As a matter of fact there was a 200 + pound passenger in t/a. mach just did'nt have it.
epl34 2 years ago
mach1 has a passenger that could be 200+ xtra lbs
jclarkesbcglobal 2 years ago
Could be mechanical issues... Nobody ruled them out. Why would you be out filming a street race, let alone a rematch, if you had these problems? Hard to tell if the Mach is a 5spd or auto. I say the Mach lost because the WS6 was more heavily modded. I know that a full Bassani exhaust will add close to 30 HP to a Mach, so I guessed it would add that to a WS6.
04COMach1 2 years ago
the mach is a 5 speed
nasty02transam 2 years ago
Ya know..... It IS possible the Mach one had his own mechanical issues. Low and/or old oil, slipping clutch, or if its auto bad tranny....... Don't sit here and try to guess why one car won and the other lost cause you aren't mechanics and can't check out their cars.
recniabsal 2 years ago
T/A Full exhaust = 30+ HP... about 355 @ flywheel. Mach 1 SLP mufflers = 5+ HP about 325 @ flywheel. I wonder why the T/A won...
04COMach1 2 years ago
he pulled by the mach way to easy to just have exhaust.
chameleone79 2 years ago
Full Exhaust = headers not just the muffler.
thetravdawg 2 years ago
yeah i did read the intro. anyhow that t/a looks like it was trapping about 8-10 mph more at the finish. imo that t/a probably has u/d pulleys and has been dyno tuned.
chameleone79 2 years ago