Indeed I have read through several odd meter and compound melody compositions by Dave Brubeck. I found Don's music to be far more adventurous in his development of odd and compound meters in Jazz. The one criticism of Jazz I have is the art form has spent entirely too much time in duple and triple meter.
@Flextones Well, that's more or less because Jazz approaches music from the perspective of the improviser, not the composer. Most jazz songs are solo vehicles, and complex meters are not always conducive to improvisation. The extra burden of trying to focus on meter is one soloists would rather not think about. Because jazz is a western music, performers choose the meters they're most comfortable with. In western music, that means a lot 4/4 and 3/4
This is soo goood. It's in 7, 2-2-3, with a Don Ellis sort of backbeat, the 2s get the heavy emphasis from about 3:45 to 4:30 of the song. Wild, but hey, It's Don...
Is this 3+4 or 4+3? What do you feel? I had to listen to it a couple of times but it sounds like 3+4 to me. I really like this. Over the years I have taught public school and at a college to undergrad music majors. As a classically trained jazz pianist sometime the argument of jazz rhythm comes up. I like to refer my colleages to Don Ellis as an example of a writer and performer who wrote swinging jazz in odd meters. Mr Compound/complex himself.
1+2+1+2+123123. Just listen to the hohrn section at 2:36, they give the groove. Bass &drum are just twisting the time feel, as on eddy Harris'version... Just lovely!
Tom Scott really has a good reputation. I was in the Army School of Music in Norfolk, Va and I was the baddest piano player on the base so I went a Musician's Union rehearsal there at the SOM. They threw some Tom Scott arrangements on me and it blew my mind. I will never forget I was dumbfounded. I was hand-cuffed. i left that rehearsal a more humble cat. I would like to revisit those charts now. twenty years later. I think I could handle them now. This tune really swings in 7.
its funny that it nearly sounds the same as the original, i mean for being a big band its incredibly close to the eddie sound.
MegaBanne 1 month ago
Indeed I have read through several odd meter and compound melody compositions by Dave Brubeck. I found Don's music to be far more adventurous in his development of odd and compound meters in Jazz. The one criticism of Jazz I have is the art form has spent entirely too much time in duple and triple meter.
Flextones 4 months ago
@Flextones Well, that's more or less because Jazz approaches music from the perspective of the improviser, not the composer. Most jazz songs are solo vehicles, and complex meters are not always conducive to improvisation. The extra burden of trying to focus on meter is one soloists would rather not think about. Because jazz is a western music, performers choose the meters they're most comfortable with. In western music, that means a lot 4/4 and 3/4
gxtmfa 4 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Don Ellis
当時、、ジャズ喫茶で無理して聴いた、蒸し蒸し"ドン・エリス"、今聴くと、悪くない!、が、ヤッパリよく解らぬ!~楽曲に救われる! #jazzm
blackandtanful 6 months ago
I heard this like 7 + 8 - 3*15 + 2 - 6
jcast18k 1 year ago
unbelievable good impressive! this musician was of biggest genius!
andydrummmer 1 year ago
This is a Don Ellis track that really shows how to swing in this time signature.
pindaric 1 year ago
This is soo goood. It's in 7, 2-2-3, with a Don Ellis sort of backbeat, the 2s get the heavy emphasis from about 3:45 to 4:30 of the song. Wild, but hey, It's Don...
brew1138 1 year ago
3+4
Champloo321 1 year ago
Works great in 7. What a good idea....
SteffanLlwyd 1 year ago
Solid!
andrewt4042 1 year ago
Groovin'
drgabrielsoileau 1 year ago
Love this groove on the old chesnut...
Yeah, 1+2+1+2+123+123.
That gets it.
TheMhh 2 years ago 2
Is this 3+4 or 4+3? What do you feel? I had to listen to it a couple of times but it sounds like 3+4 to me. I really like this. Over the years I have taught public school and at a college to undergrad music majors. As a classically trained jazz pianist sometime the argument of jazz rhythm comes up. I like to refer my colleages to Don Ellis as an example of a writer and performer who wrote swinging jazz in odd meters. Mr Compound/complex himself.
Flextones 2 years ago 3
mostly 2+2+3 for me, ignoring the syncopations :)
lxnch 2 years ago 3
@lxnch I hear it as 2+2+3. What a great rendition. Wow that Tom Scott solo rocks! - Peter
pholzer5 1 year ago
@lxnch i'd have to agree
pandrice93 1 year ago
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pandrice93 1 year ago
@lxnch exactly it is a 7/4 right on
javieral01 1 year ago
I guess it´s 2+2+3
anonymusum 2 years ago
it's a 2+2+3, but you have to count like this :
1+2+1+2+123123. Just listen to the hohrn section at 2:36, they give the groove. Bass &drum are just twisting the time feel, as on eddy Harris'version... Just lovely!
igorgul 2 years ago
@Flextones or just 7/4?
1337Hacke 1 year ago
@Flextones
Might not wanna forget about Brubeck...less avant garde but perhaps the quintessential example of odd-meter bebop...love me some Don Ellis though.
GnomeChomsky02 1 year ago
Tom Scott really has a good reputation. I was in the Army School of Music in Norfolk, Va and I was the baddest piano player on the base so I went a Musician's Union rehearsal there at the SOM. They threw some Tom Scott arrangements on me and it blew my mind. I will never forget I was dumbfounded. I was hand-cuffed. i left that rehearsal a more humble cat. I would like to revisit those charts now. twenty years later. I think I could handle them now. This tune really swings in 7.
Flextones 2 years ago
Dave Mackay and Tom Scott are superb in this hip 7 time Don Ellis version of Freedom Jazz Dance.
donaldpeter28 2 years ago 2
Absolutely brilliant!
mkatz76 2 years ago 5
What are all the instruments used?
xxTimeandSpacexx 2 years ago 2
I know the Herman band did a version, but THIS is just mind-blowing! And it swings like mad!!!
StradMan37 2 years ago 4
What album is this on?? It's so sick!!!
Zombbg4 3 years ago 2
Its on Don Ellis Orchestra "Live in 'three and two thirds over four' time"
lastfirstface 2 years ago 4