Two more important points...Almost all bahais who are in a position to give credibility, enjoy regurgitating comments written by Abbas effendi. All prophets are equal such as the mystic Buddah (who believed in reincarnation of all animals, btw), and Christ is not the Son, but a prophet as well. Religion is progressive, like math...ha, ha (stupid correlation). He even stated that our digestive systems were meant for vegetables only! Most importantly, his dad (founder) had sex with THREE wives!!
Other religions actually have conflict with alot of your beliefs and teachings. For example, St.Paul has written in the New Testament that women cover their hair in Church, as a sign of respect & humility. Mohammed wrote about the importance of women to be humble and dress conservatively. (not extreme black tents!) So, your Prophets write statements against these two tenants. what do you expect? I can write a hundred conflicting messages that permeate the debate caused by your administrators.
@TheCrusader25 Be certain that you're differentiating the Word from the babble of the followers. Over time, the two often get confused, and people who haven't heard the actual word are listening - and responding to - what they hear. Hearsay is not the Word. For example - if we take the actual sayings of Yeshua away from the commentary of the writers, you may have all of 20 pages - with possibly some repetition, of the message. Repetition is the mother of learning after all.
@TheCrusader25 OTOH, what Baha'u'llah has said is that 'all the Prophets [ras'ul] of God proclaim the same faith.' Note the difference. You spout what you believe the Buddha believed. Even if he did expound on it during his lifetime, it's far more likely that he was relating his own message to the people of his day and age than what he himself believed. Yet, even in typing that, I understand that it goes under the same kind of extrapolation that I'm attempting to address. Much is lost in legend,
@TheCrusader25 [cont'd] opinion and fantasy. So then, where does that leave us? We need to separate the essence of the message, as much as we can find, and winnow out all the other crap - and see whether we believe in the final analysis that Baha'u'llah was right. That would be a lifelong study. Good luck! Have fun with it! Report back when you can ... Septagon47
I have mentioned some important points before, and shall reiterate them again. Remember, my religious background was bahai, before I accepted Christ as the 'only way', as quoted in our Bible. I am against persecution of any persons for religious beliefs. Iran is extreme in its tolerance for other religions, and should be held criminally responsible. I only agree with Principles #4, 6 & 7. other principles lack Logic, proof, true love & respect for minority views.
Principles of the Baha'i 1. The Oneness of Humanity 2. Independent, Unfettered Investigation of the Truth 3. Religion is Progressive, All having a Common Foundation 4. Religion must be the Source of Unity 5. True Science and True Religion must Correspond 6. The Equality of Men and Women 7. Removal of all Prejudice 8. Universal Peace upheld by a Spiritual World Government 9. Universal Compulsary Education 10. A Spiritual Solution to the Economic Problem
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Bahaiis are extreely and artificially nice and kind to attract others. it is known that they pay money and, business, find mate in exchange to convert iranian in to their way of life..There is nothing wrong with the religion but has no foundation.
t their leader clmes he is the 12th Emam in Shiaat religion. this was made up by the Brithish
and all facke it says a one world government, If this is what they want to happen why all they worry only for 7 bahaii in Iranian Jail ??it is selfish
I would like to be on this program, or one like it. This word has to go forth, as it has already for generations in Iran, and around the world.
Septagon47 1 year ago
Two more important points...Almost all bahais who are in a position to give credibility, enjoy regurgitating comments written by Abbas effendi. All prophets are equal such as the mystic Buddah (who believed in reincarnation of all animals, btw), and Christ is not the Son, but a prophet as well. Religion is progressive, like math...ha, ha (stupid correlation). He even stated that our digestive systems were meant for vegetables only! Most importantly, his dad (founder) had sex with THREE wives!!
TheCrusader25 1 year ago
@TheCrusader25 He said in the future man will become vegetarian and having THREE wives was a usual thing back then.
hybridflare 5 months ago
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TheCrusader25 1 year ago
Other religions actually have conflict with alot of your beliefs and teachings. For example, St.Paul has written in the New Testament that women cover their hair in Church, as a sign of respect & humility. Mohammed wrote about the importance of women to be humble and dress conservatively. (not extreme black tents!) So, your Prophets write statements against these two tenants. what do you expect? I can write a hundred conflicting messages that permeate the debate caused by your administrators.
TheCrusader25 1 year ago
@TheCrusader25 Be certain that you're differentiating the Word from the babble of the followers. Over time, the two often get confused, and people who haven't heard the actual word are listening - and responding to - what they hear. Hearsay is not the Word. For example - if we take the actual sayings of Yeshua away from the commentary of the writers, you may have all of 20 pages - with possibly some repetition, of the message. Repetition is the mother of learning after all.
Septagon47 1 year ago
@TheCrusader25 OTOH, what Baha'u'llah has said is that 'all the Prophets [ras'ul] of God proclaim the same faith.' Note the difference. You spout what you believe the Buddha believed. Even if he did expound on it during his lifetime, it's far more likely that he was relating his own message to the people of his day and age than what he himself believed. Yet, even in typing that, I understand that it goes under the same kind of extrapolation that I'm attempting to address. Much is lost in legend,
Septagon47 1 year ago
@TheCrusader25 [cont'd] opinion and fantasy. So then, where does that leave us? We need to separate the essence of the message, as much as we can find, and winnow out all the other crap - and see whether we believe in the final analysis that Baha'u'llah was right. That would be a lifelong study. Good luck! Have fun with it! Report back when you can ... Septagon47
Septagon47 1 year ago
Greetings,
I have mentioned some important points before, and shall reiterate them again. Remember, my religious background was bahai, before I accepted Christ as the 'only way', as quoted in our Bible. I am against persecution of any persons for religious beliefs. Iran is extreme in its tolerance for other religions, and should be held criminally responsible. I only agree with Principles #4, 6 & 7. other principles lack Logic, proof, true love & respect for minority views.
TheCrusader25 1 year ago
does it say it was invented in England??
artbiz45 2 years ago
jorj119 2 years ago
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Bahaiis are extreely and artificially nice and kind to attract others. it is known that they pay money and, business, find mate in exchange to convert iranian in to their way of life..There is nothing wrong with the religion but has no foundation.
t their leader clmes he is the 12th Emam in Shiaat religion. this was made up by the Brithish
and all facke it says a one world government, If this is what they want to happen why all they worry only for 7 bahaii in Iranian Jail ??it is selfish
artbiz45 3 years ago
Ummm... NO! I'm a Baha'i and I can categorically say, "What the heck are you talking about!" Wrong.
thebluerabbit 2 years ago
Dear Friend, Please tell me, is this Brithish? Principles of the Baha'i
1. The Oneness of Humanity
2. Independent, Unfettered Investigation of the Truth
3. Religion is Progressive, All having a Common Foundation
4. Religion must be the Source of Unity
5. True Science and True Religion must Correspond
6. The Equality of Men and Women
7. Removal of all Prejudice
8. Universal Peace upheld by a Spiritual World Government
9. Universal Compulsary Education
jorj119 2 years ago