Obviously the ref didn't understand. This was back when "tapping out" wasn't a phrase even most refs knew, especially a referee for kick boxing. Besides, you can see, he was trying to fight off the choke for a while there.
This is from the K-1 Revenge II tournament held on 9/3/95. Definitely a mistake from the ref, probably should have seen that Lomunder was unable (or refusing) to tap out. Feel bad for Lomunder, but it's tempered a bit by what he did to Kawaguchi at the Japan Vale Tudo 94 fight a year before. Even though it was a NHB match, he took things a bit to far, especially with what it looked like he was about to do after the bell had clearly sounded.
@Babyboo186 Agreed I got it from :40 - 1:04 that dude Jan was OUT!that's a wicked long time with a RNC sunk in on ya like that......blame the ref for w/e ..understandable ..... or you could blame Taira.. I mean he had to know Jan was out...surely? 1st seeing those events on vhs round 96 -97 i think had me just frozen and amazed
I think this was the second MMA match K-1 ever hosted. The ref was probably only used to kickboxing and didn't know what he was doing here.
Back in the old days when the sport was really new, it wasn't uncommon to see stuff like this. In an early Pancrase match, a ref actually let a fighter continue after he woke up from being choked out because he got a rope escape while passing out.
At that time, Jan was a champion in Japan. He defeated every Japanese fighters who challenged him. Taira was a good fighter at that time, but he needed more to beat Jan. He went to America and trained Gracie jiu Jitus under Carley Gracie. After he learned so much from the master, he went back to Japan and beat Jan.
I trained with Taira once, and he was a great guy.
That was sweet...love the old school stuff! The guy way RNC'd for way too long though!! T(hough for the uninformed, you need to have the choke on on for a coupel of *minutes* to start doing brain damage).
it was a tap out match, simply jan didn't tap out. he was totally right to let it continue, in fact it should have continued for another minute at least.
@jazzaj2003 are you thick,his legs could be seen going limp right before the towel came in.If the ref let that continue any longer and jan had adverse effects afterwards,the whole of k1 would have went bankrupt in lawsuites.
my stomach is turning after seeing this. Disgusting! I can handle nasty stuff but like winnipeg says this is ridiculous and not what the sport is about today. I hope that ref is banned for life after that horrendous job.
I train at Jan Lomulder's gym in Hoogeveen, he's a great sportsman and a great fighter. Too bad he lost this match, still he is 4 times World Champion Muay Thai.
ja man jan lomulder is een beest ik ken hem Ook persoonlijk en ik dacht dat hij nou wel 93 kilo weegt als je hem ziet ZEG MAAR HAMID DOET JE DE GROETEN RUSTIG ZEG MAAR DIE JONGE DIE JOU ALTIJD VOOR DE LOL IN MEKAAR TRAPTE HAHA:p
Obviously the ref didn't understand. This was back when "tapping out" wasn't a phrase even most refs knew, especially a referee for kick boxing. Besides, you can see, he was trying to fight off the choke for a while there.
xbm 3 days ago
Worst ref EVAR!111 Second ice age comes: "gasp, pant, wheeze, gib up?"
gaBehcuoDsuoitneterP 8 months ago
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combatsambonyc 8 months ago
This is from the K-1 Revenge II tournament held on 9/3/95. Definitely a mistake from the ref, probably should have seen that Lomunder was unable (or refusing) to tap out. Feel bad for Lomunder, but it's tempered a bit by what he did to Kawaguchi at the Japan Vale Tudo 94 fight a year before. Even though it was a NHB match, he took things a bit to far, especially with what it looked like he was about to do after the bell had clearly sounded.
Babyboo186 9 months ago
@Babyboo186 Agreed I got it from :40 - 1:04 that dude Jan was OUT!that's a wicked long time with a RNC sunk in on ya like that......blame the ref for w/e ..understandable ..... or you could blame Taira.. I mean he had to know Jan was out...surely? 1st seeing those events on vhs round 96 -97 i think had me just frozen and amazed
Ryzon28 8 months ago
I think this was the second MMA match K-1 ever hosted. The ref was probably only used to kickboxing and didn't know what he was doing here.
Back in the old days when the sport was really new, it wasn't uncommon to see stuff like this. In an early Pancrase match, a ref actually let a fighter continue after he woke up from being choked out because he got a rope escape while passing out.
ThePinkMan 11 months ago
LOL
LupusRexRgis 1 year ago
At that time, Jan was a champion in Japan. He defeated every Japanese fighters who challenged him. Taira was a good fighter at that time, but he needed more to beat Jan. He went to America and trained Gracie jiu Jitus under Carley Gracie. After he learned so much from the master, he went back to Japan and beat Jan.
I trained with Taira once, and he was a great guy.
rlawlsgh 2 years ago
this is old school MMA no holds barred bare knuckle. From roughly 1993-1996 MMA was brutal as hell.
cabalofdemons 2 years ago
@cabalofdemons brutal and beautiful LOL I love those events.
Ryzon28 8 months ago
disgusted by the reffing
csfbloodclaw 2 years ago
That was sweet...love the old school stuff! The guy way RNC'd for way too long though!! T(hough for the uninformed, you need to have the choke on on for a coupel of *minutes* to start doing brain damage).
Magnum1978 3 years ago
it was a tap out match, simply jan didn't tap out. he was totally right to let it continue, in fact it should have continued for another minute at least.
jazzaj2003 3 years ago
@jazzaj2003 are you thick,his legs could be seen going limp right before the towel came in.If the ref let that continue any longer and jan had adverse effects afterwards,the whole of k1 would have went bankrupt in lawsuites.
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stilettoband 3 years ago
Oh wow. I've never seen this before.
I trained with Naoyuki specifically for this match. He came to our gym to learn grappling.
Now seeing this I feel sick. WTF is wrong with that ref. Jan could have been seriously injured.
Don't blame Taira for this. He really was a beginning grappler at that point. Blame it on the ref.
ajaxsf 3 years ago 2
That ref is an idiot!!! He let him choke that guy into a seizure... I hope he gets fired!!!! UFC doesn't allow crap like that!
elmoski 3 years ago
naoyuki is a bitch he can not win it if he doesnt that wat
mocroboy1888 4 years ago
my stomach is turning after seeing this. Disgusting! I can handle nasty stuff but like winnipeg says this is ridiculous and not what the sport is about today. I hope that ref is banned for life after that horrendous job.
ez2hotwire 4 years ago
That is awful. I knew the reffing was bad when mma was just beginning but that was just rediculous. That choke was on for almost a minute!
winnipegartist 4 years ago
It hurts everytime I watch this. Almost killed Jan Lomulder. The ref did a horrible job not noticing Jan going to sleep. For sure not a fake.
Biomass22 4 years ago
swancorax, this is not fake..... this is mma k-1 in Brazil. Research it
FBman42 4 years ago
fake
swancorax 4 years ago
I train at Jan Lomulder's gym in Hoogeveen, he's a great sportsman and a great fighter. Too bad he lost this match, still he is 4 times World Champion Muay Thai.
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MarcHaak 4 years ago
ja man jan lomulder is een beest ik ken hem Ook persoonlijk en ik dacht dat hij nou wel 93 kilo weegt als je hem ziet ZEG MAAR HAMID DOET JE DE GROETEN RUSTIG ZEG MAAR DIE JONGE DIE JOU ALTIJD VOOR DE LOL IN MEKAAR TRAPTE HAHA:p
mocroboy1888 4 years ago
nice
tonjes21 4 years ago
Naoyuki Taira , espirito de luta .. muito bom
whitedragons25 5 years ago
WHOA that's old school... nice!!!
kid108 5 years ago