Grand Canyon Flood | Creation Minute With Mr Eric Hovind

[TheLightedDarkness]

@TheSynesthetic

1. Did you actually watch this video as proof, for instance?

2. Because they had fallen to sin, they fell short to the Glory of God.

3. God did not create Evil, Evil is an absence of the Love of God. People with their limited minds cannot fully grasp God, and therefore can be strayed from the path.

4. No one is in Heaven, everyone is in the Underworld until the Day of Judgment comes.

5. Because you watch him and want him to be good, that's why.

[windnpine]

They've also been told many times that they have the river flowing backwards in this video. They have the entrance and exit elevations correct, just on the wrong ends.

[sweatytoothmadman]

It's called uplift, Kent and Eric Hovind have been told this multiple times.

[iglooin64]

Has Eric heard of land slippage?

[Gvozdov]

IDK

[jalen676]

so wait if the flood created the grand canon y didnt it create canions everywhere. y was the water so concentrated right there

o and you know the misisippi, amizon and the nile river flows up hil at some points right

[Raptor302]

Ok, if the flood created the grand canyon, why did it make only one canyon? Why didn't it make many canyon? Instead, we only have one and there is a river at the bottom of it.

What was the last flood that you know of that made a canyon. A worldwide flood wouldn't make a canyon because the distribution of the water would create equal pressure over the entire surface.

A flood that went seven miles up in volume over the entire earth, I wonder were all that water went?

[Gvozdov]

Ask this question Eric Hovind!

[asihall]

I don't believe in evolution.. I don't believe in creation... I KNOW evolution happened. I don't need to believe in a fact :)

I don't know what I would say if a fictional "Day of Judgement" was to come. I don't think that hard about fiction :D I believe in Harry Potter and his magic more than God...

[Gvozdov]

What Harry Potter done for you?

[TheSynesthetic]

What can you prove God has done for you?

[Gvozdov]

Jesus died for you; this is all what you need!

[TheSynesthetic]

Can you prove it? Also, you neglected to answer my previous post.

On a more philosophical note, isn't it a disservice to your God to not respond to my questions? By not defending him, you are committing a sin of omission in ways, much like denying him to save your life. Except, in this scenario, you're not defending him - all to save face in a Youtube video. Wouldn't a god who demands faith also demand that his followers has the courage to stand in favor of him? Make no mistake: what would conv

[Gvozdov]

I don't have to prove what is true! You don't have to relive but you will see one day Jesus!

[Gvozdov]

Jesus died for you; this is all what you need!

[TheSynesthetic]

ince me to convert to belief in your god would be a rational answer to those questions, especially the first. By not doing what is required to make a disciple of me, you are disobeying god's command to evangelize, as given in Mathew 28 v19-20. Tell me, what will you say on the last day when god asks why you did not do what is necessary to save me? Not even attempting to rationally answer a question that would save me counts as a grievous sin of omission against god.

[Gvozdov]

You know enough to get saved but you don't what to get saved and you know why, I think you know why!

[asihall]

Actually, Harry Potter has supplied hours of entertainment for me.. If I were religious God would supply hours of pain and suffering... God only wants you dead and he wants you to suffer all your life.

[Gvozdov]

Maybe your god but my God gave me life forever !

[AzBirdDog]

Gvozdoz's God must be mine too!

Because my God gave me life forever!

And He also gave me a brain to know for a fact, That water doesn't travel up, It travels down.

Pretty nice, huh?

[HomesteadAcres]

Behold i rebuke and chasten all those whom i love

[jumanous]

lol... the evolutionary mantra strikes again. I love the smell of brainwashing in the morning :P

[BoneySkylord]

Hey, there's a surprise. Gvozdov is censoring the comments!

I bet you're not brave enough to show the comment I posted just now!

So which is it? Brave or cowardly?

[Gvozdov]

What do you mean?

[BoneySkylord]

Brave.

Well done.

Thank you.

(Most creationists and other anti-scientists block or censor comments because they are too cowardly to have their absurd beliefs exposed)

[Gvozdov]

So do you believe evolution or creation?

[BoneySkylord]

I don't "believe" in either of them.

Creationism is a complete pile of nonsense. There is no argument on this at all. It has been shown to be silly nonsense beyond any possible doubt.

"Belief" has no relevance to evolution at all. You might as well "believe" in clouds, rain, tidal movement, meandering rivers or any other observable natural phenomenon. Evolution just "is".

[Gvozdov]

I feel sorry for you! Did you ever think what you going to say the last Day of Judgment?

[BoneySkylord]

Yup, I'll say:

"Look here, God, if you really wanted people to believe in you, why didn't you leave even one tiny little bit of genuinely convincing evidence?"

To which he'll say: "Er, yeah, I guess you're right actually. I did set it all up to look EXACTLY like it all happened without me, didn't I?"

[Gvozdov]

You din not answer for my question!

[TheSynesthetic]

I'd say a few things:

"Why you didn't leave any proof of your existence, God?"

"Why did you kill hundreds of thousands of people in the bible, God?"

"Why did give life to sociopaths and psychos who have a mental predisposition that they cannot control to murder and rape people, God?"

"Why do you allow Christian murderers into heaven, but not atheists who spent their entire life helping the poor, God?"

"Why is Ben Stiller such a shitty actor, God?"

That's right, I'll backtalk God. I DGAF.

[Gvozdov]

If you would believe Jesus Christ as your Savior, these entire questions would make sense for you

[TheSynesthetic]

Actually, I used to believe his as my savior. I stopped believing because I couldn't figure out these answers. Care to help me out on them?

[Gvozdov]

maybe you didn't try enough!

[jumanous]

1. he did, you just don't want to see it

2. because they would have killed all of us if he didn't

3. he didn't, we asked for free will, all these problems are a result of what goes along with free will

4. because you didn't accept the free gift of salvation.

5. better question, why do you watch his movies?

[Gvozdov]

WHY DO YOU ASK ME THIS QUESTIONS?

[Raptor302]

"because you didn't accept the free gift of salvation."

salvation from what? christians look at the human condition and say that because we are not perfect that we need to be saved from something when there is nothing to be saved from.

if jesus dying was a gift, why would my salvation be based upon my acceptance of that gift. if he was a loving god who wants none to perish, why not make that salvation applicable to all ppl whether they accept it or not. he already paid for it!

[Gvozdov]

God needs people not robots, You can decide if you what to accent His gift or not!

[Raptor302]

but the alternative for not accepting the gift is eternal torture. how nice of you, mr. god

"here's your birthday present, son. if you don't accept this gift, i will beat you for the rest of your life."

[TheSynesthetic]

Why does God need people? Furthermore, why does he kill so many of them in the bible?

[Gvozdov]

we need God! I hope that God would kill some more people

[Raptor302]

"I hope that God would kill some more people"

this is why ppl think your religion is sick and your god unworthy of worship. if that is the state of affairs, i would rather burn for all eternity with my integrity than to live in heaven with the mentally insane.

[Gvozdov]

God created people to Worship God, but people worship them self or idols.

[Raptor302]

yet your book says he is willing for none to perish, but he bases whether or not we will spend eternity with him on a book written centeries ago, indistinguishable from mythology, and in the market place with other religions that say we will go to hell if we reject THEIR version of things as well.

Jesus could make a believer out of every athiest if he simply appeared. he did it before, why is it not ok for him to do it now? and it would save them all from hell! but he doesnt, and never will

[Gvozdov]

One day you will believe in Jesus anyway

[TheSynesthetic]

One day, you'll be an Atheist.

[Gvozdov]

One day will be no atheist

[TheSynesthetic]

You hope that God causes more pain and suffering? You're truly evil, aren't you?

[Gvozdov]

That what you hope!

[TheSynesthetic]

You're evil, plain and simple. Or a troll.

[Gvozdov]

I hope that God would kill evil people. Than evil people would not make you evil.

[Cuythulu]

Gen 6,6 enjoy.

[Gvozdov]

I feel sorry for you! Did you ever think what you going to say the last Day of Judgment?

[Gvozdov]

So do you believe evolution or creation?

[swordhunter12]

You cannot believe in what has been proven. Belief requires lack of proof and proof denies belief.

[Gvozdov]

Bible is WORDS of God, we don't have to prove it

[Kruttkuse]

How do you know the Bible is the Words of God, without proving it?

[Gvozdov]

you should know by now!

[Kruttkuse]

Accepting that it is true isn´t proof?

[Gvozdov]

TRUE don't need to be proof

[Kruttkuse]

You can capitalize all you want, but the question is HOW do you know this to be true?

[Gvozdov]

I feel sorry for you

[Kruttkuse]

Why?

[Gvozdov]

Because you don't know your Savior!

[Kruttkuse]

I do not require a savior. I am not puny and in need of salvation. Why should you feel sorry for me?

[Gvozdov]

because you need and you don't even know that you need!

[BoneySkylord]

Hey Eric, great video. Nicely misleading bit about the elevations. All those wicked scientists, eh?, claiming water flows up hill. I don't know! What will they think of next?

Perhaps they'll even think up some explanation for the complete absence of flood debris downstream from the canyon. You know, all those millions of tons of rock that were washed out in one go by the flood. There should be huge boulders all over the place.

Or perhaps it was VERY slow erosion....

[whamii]

Oh sure thing buddy, I bet you know more than all those scientists, you, the guy who believes the great flood created the grand canyon even though that violates everything we know about geology.

Also, I don't believe what the scientists tell me, I believe in testable hypothesis backed by evidence, you can do the sedimentation experiments yourself, but you won't, because then you'll find out that the great flood never happened.

[Gvozdov]

I believe this Gen 6:13-22 "And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth. Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch. And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.

[whamii]

Good for you

[GJacksonT]

whamii - it's true. I certainly don't know as much about geology as the scidntists that study it but I do know that water does NOT run UPHILL! If what you say is true and it is not possible that a flood created the Grand Canyon according to Hovind's theory, then what did? Please, tell us how it happened!

[Gvozdov]

And I dont know as much about geology, but I believe the Bible 100% word of God.

I am sorry but I cant tell you how but you can ask Eric Hovind

[GJacksonT]

Gvozdov - I have reviewed all of Mr. Hovind's creation videos. I do not necessarily agree with him on every point but I do agree with you and Mr. Hovind on this point - I believe that God did it . . . 100%. I may not understand all about the hows or why's but I believe that He did. I certainly cannot give any credence to evolution. The scoffers may giggle and smirk at me but I could care less. Jesus is Lord and one day He will appear to all. I believe that's why they call it "having faith!"

[Raptor302]

Umm, the Colorado River. I don't know, maybe because its STILL IN THE FREAKIN CANYON. That's like asking "Who broke into this house" while a man in a ski mask sits in the living room.

[SoloJESUSsalva1]

Great video!!!!!! Love the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep it going!!!!! (Too bad they don't have these in other languages yet!)

[whamii]

First of all he starts misleading people by saying "some scientists believe...". It's not some scientists, it's almost all the scientific community, the only people who think the grand canyon was formed by a great flood are creationists who more often than not know nothing about science, specially this guy who has a 1 year degree from a christian "university".

[Gvozdov]

Believe or not in many situation first grade students know more them scientists. By your words I can tell that you dont believe the TRUE but you believe scientists people who dont want to accept Jesus as a Savor. One day you will bend your knees for Jesus!

[SoloJESUSsalva1]

That's so true.

And hallelujah to that last sentence!

[whamii]

well first of all, he starts by misleading people saying "some scientists", it's not some scientists, it's the whole scientific community , the only ones who think a great flood formed the grand canyon are creationists who know nothing about science and specially this guy who has a 1 year degree from a christian "university".

[Gvozdov]

Yes, I agree with you! Almost all scientists who dont believe the BILBE they think that way because they dont know what else to say. All scientists who believe the BIBLE they all know that flood is a fact!!!

[whamii]

You are wrong, most scientists are actually theists and they don't believe in the great flood, not all christians are creationists you know? you have to reject science to be a creationist, you should read some about your great flood and how it is scientifically impossible.

[whamii]

this is the epitome of stupidity

[Gvozdov]

why?

[whamii]

Second, he says that a great flood might be responsible but he gives no evidence, just an assertion like most creationists and finally the good all cheap shot saying that the colorado river was flowing up hill which I'm sure convinced a lot of people who don't know anything and will trust anything without checking the facts.

[Gvozdov]

i got from this website creationminute com