THE CORPORATION [12/23] Perception Managment

[kryptonickraze]

Great video, check out the documentary "Century of the Self" by Adam Curtis he goes into the same sort of thing but in much greater detail, very interesting and informative.

[pornocollection]

very similar to marx's theory of "false consciousness" great vid, thx :)

[telemetry9]

To undermine all your hard work and your integrity as a film maker. All you have to do is make a film about the dangers of the proliferation of a certain product/commodity/resource. Once you've made your film outlining the dangers and creating awareness - at the end of the film ask and appeal for the very thing which your film indicates as being toxic. That's how you make your self look duplicitous and supercilious. A little like Michael Moore and oh yes - this film maker appealing for cash.

[kanaak777]

@telemetry9 Pfff... wow. You really broke the system here... (humble notice: this IS sarcasm)

[arainade]

I went off of my meds after months of weening, whenI realized that they didn't work and that my PHD's fed me pills for no reason for 10 years. Always the new expensive ones despite severe side effects that weren't listed on the bottles. Severe birth defects, Autism, permanent sexual dysfunction, etc. Pfizer nor the doctors will be there for me if I need help financially to take care of an autistic child. The doctors don't care, I was recommended ECT over Weed. I'd rather have a lobotomy.

[UkeliDokeli]

When my kids ask me what do I do and why is it so important? I basicly just lie to them like I've been lying to you. Infact I might just start believing my own bullshit.

someone give that guy a father of the year mug!

[jjrglobal]

Nearly ALL businesses, big small and everything in between, ARE Corporations. Corporations make everything we buy and sell us everything we buy at our own free will. Corporations furnish us with food, electronics, gasoline and EVERYTHING else we want or desire, and they do it for the best price with the highest quality while employing the PRODUCTIVE people of society. How can anyone in their right mind talk bad about corporations, life w/o them would send us back to the stone age.

[chucklesjgao]

@jjrglobal there's good and bad to everything;but how could anyone in their right mind IGNORE the bad things, especially when the bad things that corporations do can have a massive global impact.

[jjrglobal]

@chucklesjgao

For every dishonest businessman there are ten thousand honest ones, perhaps the dickhead that made this retarded movie shouldn't lump the good with the bad and instead of the title being The Corporation, he should single out these few bad apples and use their names in his title. Name some of these horrible corporations that you're talking about, and be specific.

[otherside65]

@jjrglobal theres a big difference between a company and a huge corporation with stock holders. these differences obviously imply a difference in operations, but then again for all the shit youre talking, you should already know this shouldnt you?

[jjrglobal]

@otherside65

EVERY huge corporation was at one time a small business, nothing more than a persons or a few peoples idea. The really great ideas flourished and became bigger and bigger over time by selling products or services that their fellow man desired. The really big corporations just did it better than everyone else, thats how they became so big. Thats the thing about Capitalism, you can only become wealthy by improving your fellow mans living standard.

[kanaak777]

@jjrglobal First of all... not really since today businesses can start its existence with millions at disposal due to special type of deals on stock exchange. Secondly the prime motive is the profit maximization. IF (huge emphasis here) any social benefits occure, this are positive externalities. The thing in Capitalism as it stands now is that you can become wealthy only by maximizing your profits and thus: aiming for high efficiency, productivity, low costs et cetera...

[jjrglobal]

@kanaak777

The corporations still have to sell their goods or services to people that want them, so corporations can only stay in business by pleasing enough customers to pay the bills. If everyone hated a company it wouldn't last a month.

[jjrglobal]

@kanaak777

Bring from Poland you should fuckin better know better. How'd that Communism treat ya?

[Fussinated]

@kanaak777 There is a cotinent called Africa that was doing well untill the domination of captalism. So, for a small company to grow and become a global institution how many African nations should go into caos, so that its natural resources should be obtained cheap? And of course, we also should close our eyes to the fact that due to capitalistic economy, there is not one single nation that is not in debt. Means justify the cause and means is more wealth that's what capitalism is about.

[rusbak]

so many millions/billions spent on image perception, why not just do something, it is not that hard, then you are not doing perception you are stating fact.

[FatherTime89]

This video is such a damn drama queen.

[DaCube83]

i'm from germany and i say to you people . go outside the US media and watch about everything . 9/11 was 100% made by secret services . NOT from Arabian terrorists . its the biggest lie ever ! watch what happens on our planet ! the US media is under control . german too i guess but we see a lot more here yet

insane shit man, stop the hate to people and start the revolution !

never forget the victims of 911 and the millions of dead afghan and iraqian civilian people !

thetruthisnow

[FatherTime89]

@DaCube83 That conspiracy is 100% bullshit.

[5ag5]

I am a Libertarian so i am huge Pro-Capitalist advocate. But just watching this film makes me so angry to see how some corporations are so blind by profit maximization that they forget that they are also people and that people cannot be treated that way. Capitalism was created as a means to increase wealth and welfare not to them but to society as a whole, what happened to these ideals that have been forgotten.?

[kingmafi6699]

"Capitalism was created as a means to increase wealth and welfare not to them but to society as a whole, what happened to these ideals that have been forgotten.?"

No it wasn't

That was never the case ever. The sole purpose of capitalism is to gain profit and thus more capital. There was no good or holy intention and was merely a byproduct and evolution of the feudal system in Europe especially mercantilism.

Early capitalism was horrible and saw awful working conditions.

[5ag5]

@kingmafi6699 When you read the "An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations" by Adam Smith we will talk for now there is no point in arguing.

[derekHSmith]

Hey, don't earn money - because that would be evil exploitation... just beg instead, like these guys. Good plan team commy.

[StinkadoodlePie]

what's sad is, when I first saw Mark Achbar ask for money, I was seriously considering donating. Maybe just $5 or $10. But now? I'm so annoyed with hearing him demand money over and over that I don't want to anymore.

[ShavaShav]

Hi there, this is Mark Achbar...

[DREZ33]

another name for the mass media would be the 4th branch of government.

"its like mk ultra controlling your brain,

suggestive thinking causing your perspective to change."

-

Immortal Technique

[JohananRaatz]

How to correct a democracy once it has gotten out of control: watch?v=BBezaI0bnAQ&

[kira420weed]

waching this i can see how so many ppl r blind to whats really going on in this world ppl need wake up and see whats really going on see the big picher and stop all this b4 it klills us all.

the truth is it well never stop as much as it kills us we need it for with out it we would be lost the truth is we r so use to it that if it were to end we would not know what to do next

[coloniaIVU]

OMG people just can't be satisfied with anything! YOU ARE VIEWING IT FREE on YOU TUBE for god's sake! JEEZ, we are totally doomed when we have idiots who think they know it all engaging in "GOTCHA" acts! Think of this film like PBS, it takes money and man hours to create a film. Nothing is truly free. I cringe everytime I see an idiotic comment suggesting that the creator of this film is being hypocritical and sly by bombarding us with ads, and then seeing a reply from Mr. Achbar.

[machbar]

@coloniaIVU People have developed a sense of entitlement around free content which will lead to more and more "embedded" ads. I guess we could have gone the product placement route, but I doubt we'd have had any takers. Thank you for your understanding and support.

[ahilleary1]

Talk about master chess players these individuals counld easly win a tourament in a heartbeat.

[Fussinated]

funny, I am watching Resident Evil 3 with this documentary at the same time. Umbrella Corporation, pretty much screwed the whole world in the movie. But of course, those things happen only in the movies. In real life, we have nice friendly, humane, corporations that would not do bad things for humans and for humanity. They are falsy being accused by environmentalists etc. They would never ever harm anyone. Those who are harmful, are Muslims so we have to trust those corporation against Muslims.

[machbar]

@Fussinated Factoid: Resident Evil Apocalypse is the only Canadian-financed (20%) feature film which outgrossed The Corporation in Canada in the year it came out.

[jbohler33]

@Fussinated Yes, the corporations interests are in protecting us from the muslims. They would never do anything to harm us.

[WELanning]

@Fussinated Yes... that movie is a perfect example of leftist propaganda propagated by lestist writers. No big surprise there. No big surprise that some leftist tries to bring forth this work of fiction as "an example of proof" that the leftists, beliefs are well founded. LMAO.

[WELanning]

@Fussinated Yes... that movie is a perfect example of leftist propaganda propagated by leftist writers. No big surprise there. No big surprise that some leftist tries to bring forth this work of fiction as "an example of proof" that the leftists, beliefs are well founded. LMAO.

[Fussinated]

@WELanning leftist refers to the unreligious, traditionally, and rightist refers to the religious. All the social moevement that are agains religious beliefs are started by these corporations, cloning for example. So you contradict with your leftist propoganda deduction from the start. As for the fiction part, if you trust with your future to those who exist only to make money, then don't complain about being regarded as a number not a name etc. Since your worth is already assessed in $'s.

[Fireict]

@Fussinated Clearly, you don't understand that problems can occur when a corporation's main drive, its profit motivation, conflicts with other considerations, such as public welfare. If profit is all that matters, then it's not hard to see that corporations will toss aside considerations, such as the environment or human health, if it helps the bottom line. Also, the comment about Muslims is totally unfounded. Listen to someone like Chomsky for a truly informed opinion on foreign affairs.

[Fussinated]

@Fireict Clearly, you don't understand a sarcasm when you see one. Also, it seems like you aren't aware that the biggest corporations in th world today are about OIL, and somehow, Muslims sit on the biggest oil reserves in the world. Can you connect the dots from here?

Chomsky is trying to think out side of the conditioning of his culture, but I hardly would consider him as well informed when it comes to Muslims and the issues among them. Are you sure that I don't know what he says? How?

[citizencrack1986]

if anyone is interested in learning the psychological science behind brainwashing and mass-hypnosis, research the psychology of crowds, along with famous hypnotists like Milton Erickson and Richard Bandler. these guys have developed hypnotic patterns so subtle and covert, that you don't even realize they were starting an induction on you...i see MANY hypnotic visualization techniques copied i nthe form of t.v. commercials today. It is emotional engineering. "all hypnosis is self-hypnosis".

[andreasbestfriend]

i could watch this documentary over and over again. its presented in a very interesting way. i have ADD and get bored easily but this documentary keeps me entertained and intrigued. everything about it is very well done!

[Carbolicsmokeball26]

Son, "I help corporations have a voice." ...Uhhmmm dad? Don't corporations, with millions or billions of dollars, ALREADY have a voice? Why not give a voice to the normal working person, who is too busy working and changing diapers to get involved in politics, and too poor to pay you?

[Cairokmt]

Machbar, I will get the DVD and support your important work. It never ceases to amaze me how people like you, and otherethical folks/ organic companies, etc. who are trying to raise our consciousness for the better are attacked for trying to make a living, but these same folks never question the right of a Monsanto, Shell, Big Pharma, BP, etc.- companies that kill people and destroy the environment - to make money. Are we that brainwashed???

[Cairokmt]

This is the best movie I have seen. I especially enjoyed the part on psychopaths- I work in corporate America, and could not help but notice the preponderance of such types. My friends and I marvel at how cold, calculating and deceitful-- i.e. pyschopathic-- corporate types can be. They mold you to behave like that by rewarding such behavior with bonuses, titles and raises. Truly sickening. For my own sanity, I must leave.

[deadgoblin86]

perception management - how is this not a synonym of 'mind control' ?

[wbaltzley]

@deadgoblin86 Have you ever read a book titled "1984"? One method the government used for "Perception Management" was called "NEW-SPEAK"--they would continually prune the language and redefine terms. You had to get a new dictionary every year to keep up.

[fibbsabaddy]

We all see that the world is fucked. Going on about it won't stop it. There must be a peoples movement away from this morally, socially and economically bankrupt system before it is to late. We must see what the problems exist at our root and rebuild our society on a healthier foundation . There is such a movement. It is called the zeitgeist movement and is the communication arm of the Venus project. Get started by typing 'zeitgeist addendum' into google. 'Fear is your only god' RATM. Peace.

[gigi6196]

If I were either Michael or Angelica, I would have been imprisoned for patricide by now.

[deagla2]

Resist the NWO agenda, grow a herb/veg garden

[grazyarnie]

the result in advertising products and not giving people the chance or possibility to buy that certain product leads into a rising crime rate...which is rising very harsh...

So we are a community who needs to spent much without getting anything....our problem is easy....financial economy has lost its linkage to the peoples income and financial strength of the people, who make the majority of human beings...

Well Novus ordo seclurum (New world order) is the very topic here

[wbaltzley]

Multinationals pay out huge sums of money to hide the harm they do and give the impression they benefit the public. However, their only goal is to get as much money as possible, and corporations have no conscience.

Sadly, exploitation is profitable, and so long as the Supreme Court allows corporations to influence the political system they will strive to legalize human brutality. We need a Constitutional Amendment to abolish "Corporate Personhood" and ban corporations from politics.

[mathproof]

The guy at 2:07 shows like the main character from "Thank You For Smoking." Of course everyone noticed that he didn't answer the question "Why is what you do important?"

[CobainFrusciante]

I find it kinda funny to watch this documentary which talks about money, corporations and publicities... while there's this advertisement about winning a 500$ WalMart gift card right under the video.. anyone else thinks Youtube has gone too far?

[BrimstoneAlpha]

Ok enough with the ads after every segment please

[ozzyb83]

u can skip it

[machbar]

@BrimstoneAlpha Sorry.

[happiness6589746]

socialist commie propaganda

[turnstoGOLD]

any time someone brings up anto corporation stuff.

at least one person says socialist.

why is that?

[eiwaz]

Stop buying their shit! Don't feed the beast!

[Cambodia69]

Did anyone else notice the music from 1:11 - 2:09 and how sickeningly sweet and stupidly happy it sounded? I'm guessing this was done for irony and comedic effect since it was juxtaposed with various criminal acts committed by B-M's clients and the innocent portrayal of what B-M actually does. "Perception Management" is lying and - at its worst - gets us into wars. Remember the WMD's, yellow-cake uranium, transport tubes, links between Saddam Hussein and 9/11, the Taliban or Al Qaeda? Bullshit.

[machbar]

@Cambodia69 The music was from B-M's promo own video!

[britishjohn04]

The story he talks of is a narrative. Narratives are used everywhere, in politics, advertising and even in courts of law. Narratives are great for leading intellectually lazy people into making overly simplistic and nonsensical decisions.

[kokonutbaby1]

well have u ever noticed how ur job doesnt just want to control u & tell u what to do at work but they want to control what u do at home...they decide when u can go on vacation, insist u come in early or go home late if they need u to...or work overtime if they want u to...they act like u have no life outside of "the corporation", lol..we spend 5 days sometimes 6 days/week at our jobs yet that is not enough for some corp's. They want u to come in on your time for meetings in between work days.

[girlphriend]

not only that, but what about tavelling? why do we have to "register" our cars?The state then has a stake, and can FORCE us tohave to be liscenced and insured.You cant own a car or property.Think you own a house? You are a "resident" which is a TRANSIENT state.Thats why they can take your kids away. Once you "register" your kids the state has a claim and if you dont raise them "right".a liscence makes something that WAS illegal, legal. Whats illegal about marraige?

[rckflare]

@kokonutbaby1 , Well..........DID YOU NOT ACCEPT THE JOB!!!

[kokonutbaby1]

@rckflare whats that suppose to mean??

[rckflare]

@kokonutbaby1 it means the stupid dufuses on here complaining 'oh the employers are controlling our lives' - IF YOU DONT LIKE THE JOB OR THIS FANTISAL' control' THEN FUKIN QUIT!!. Corporations exist BECAUSE its you consumers, the very same ones who complain 24/7 who are BUYING their products. you dont like them then stop BUYING their products.

furthermore to limit corporations is to limit free will because you are essentialliy TELLING people what they can and cant buy, and thats not DEMOCRACY!

[itsAndrogyn]

I think they should create PRODUCTS around this movie..like "IM not juts a consumer" T-shirts, or " Im not a property of the corpotaions" "I have a soul too" things like that which share the same ideas as the movie. Thirts, seminars, mugs, posters, books etc. but not ask contrubution cmon!!!

[AzazelEblis]

Uhm, like the DVD? lol

[MoonAharshMistress]

you dont get it , plundering the earths finite resources on tat is not a good idea, no?

[itsAndrogyn]

its like a joke..as a business and marketing assistant i think the film is good but its a joke that they ask a contribution after "they really know corporations are bad". Its like you say: hunters are bad becouse they kill animals..then you ask a piece of meat. THEY DONT KNOW ANY OTHER REVENUE STREAM THAN CORPORATIONS , SO THEY HAVE TO BEG.

[boceanf]

the irony is that this very webpage is the ultimate ad machine...

[Atheismrulez]

@boceanf

That's true. But YouTube is actually operating at a loss, so that's not really a good argument to be honest.

[btbking]

LOL WUT IS DIS VID?

[Pinch0fSalt]

it says a lot about people that are talking about this as though it was a PRODUCT to ENTERTAIN them. Just listen to the message, do something about it and stop complaining.

[UTubesWorst]

Nothing better than a Documentary against Capitalism showing advertisements in their videos. Long Live America!

[nijaexhile3]

Its Canadian so... Vive la Canada?

[GiveItOrLoseIt]

The REAL sad thing about all this....is that Science and Technology has created these monsters and Science and Technology is the only way out....IF science is applied to society of course.

[iblanco2]

lets all join the communist party!!!!!!

[Solechnaya]

One of the things is that corporations tell us we cannot do anything without them. That is a lie.

[circlestream]

2 true thanks 4 saying so!

[carpesakti2008]

hi, can not watch this 12 part.

it said, video no longer available

[AzazelEblis]

You know, for all the complaining about comercialism, this vid manages to plug the DVD a bit.

The torrent file gets it out of the way at once at the very beginning.

[machbar]

And here I thought the ad at the front of the film was the most obnoxious. I put a message at the end of each Youtube chapter because I figured people might not necessarily watch the film from the beginning. You can't please all the people all the time, can you? Pony up for the film on iTunes and there are NO ads! Thanks for watching...

[AzazelEblis]

I was under the impression that this was released freely for the sake of spreading important info. When I see the ad saying "hey, we worked hard, please contribute if you can. Enjoy your show!" I considered that a polite way of doing things - it was up front, honest, and not demanding.

Break it up like this, repeat the ad 23 times.... and it just comes off as the same sort of nagging bombardment you see in this vid.

Maybe you shouldn't get angry when someone points out a fallacy.

[machbar]

It's not released "freely". It's released with a request for support, as you have keenly observed.

It isn't the same ad at the end of each video. They alternate. One asks for money, the other promotes the DVD. So that's only 11 times and 12 times each, assuming the you watch all 23. Anyway, they're at the end. No one's forcing you to watch them. Click away to the next one. OR BUY THE DVD.

I'm just trying to make a living and support the people and institutions who helped make the film, okay?

[AzazelEblis]

A request for support is fine. An admittedly repetitive ad is falling into what you're supposedly fighting against.

Yes, I have the remote control to my tv, I have the chance to save my brain, etc,etc,etc... Yet, the film is well on its way to becoming famous not for the points it makes, but how its owned by....just another Corporation, like the ones it describes.

Screw principles, lets make a dollar!

[elysium735]

@machbar You're just trying to make an image for yourself as the guy door the street so you can make obscene amounts of profits!

We're well aware you're not forcing us to watch, and parts of this have me interested so far. You have note your glaring hypocrisy though. We know you're just trying to get by and all, but this is YouTube man. Anyone who really likes this will go to your page, and if they can afford and are generous enough, will donate. Repeating the two ads defeats your purpose.

[machbar]

@elysium735 After half a million downloads via bittorrent with no $ request attached to the film, the number of donations was zero. Please help me draw the line between an okay amount of profit and an obscene amount of profit. Thank you.

[plftz1]

@machbar Perhaps you could look into the youtube partner program.  With that many views you should be able to share in the ad revenue. Great film and best of luck.

[machbar]

@plftz1 Total views for all chapters are reaching 3 million. Thank you for the support and suggestion.

[elysium735]

@machbar I don't know where that line is exactly, I apologize. I would however like to suggest making a better film.

Tell you what, if you edit out Michael Moore I'll send you a whole dollar right now.

[SoftBank47]

@machbar This is basically how open source programs work. I guess you could call this an "open source documentary?"

[MoonAharshMistress]

Just goes to illustrate the point of how brainwashed into being consumers & the 'dont get something for nothing' culture, if the novel idea of producing something voluntarily, but yet asking for a contribution towards the costs confuses some people..

an indie company that criticises media groups, their networks and corporations is hardly likely to get sponsored by them...that doesnt mean people havent worked hard or dont deserve reimbursement for their efforts to contribute such information

[MoonAharshMistress]

Nor does it mean they havent got a good point.

They arent saying anything fallacious, hypocritical or unethical just because they are a film company..they and the guests are just trying to recover costs for their efforts of contributing knowledge that otherwise would remain hidden..they have done this for the publics benefit, in other words, for people like yourself who would doubtless remain ignorant

[lordmonty01]

i have to agree. good documentary but too many adds it might have been better if you uploded in full and just had say 2 or 3 adds. as i watch each segment i see the add coming and just go to the next. good documenary tho.

[acdceric12345]

@AzazelEblis

yeah fag, what philosoraptor said

[Carbolicsmokeball26]

@AzazelEblis LAME dude! The difference here is that they are offering a FREE documentary for you to watch...and then asking politely for you to chip in IF you thought it was worth it. That's way different than encouraging millions of children to nag their parents to go out and BUY products that are not being offered for free! ...No corporation is going to sponsor a film like this - a film which is trying to spread awareness and maybe just change the world for the better.

[kickstartmyheartkid]

@machbar shut up

[Valkyriefury]

@machbar Don't worry, it's not even at the end of most of the videos. Plus, it's not something that we are forced to watch or do.

Thanks for the video, I'm a huge fan.

[anarchy0productions]

if he wanted the money that bad then he probably wouldnt of put if up for free

[AzazelEblis]

The new wave of certain business models is to give stuff for free...

but if you want, (for example a movie,) to actually use the product, (watch it without ads making us sick)...

Well then, step right up and buybuybuy buy!!!

Oh, you want this? It comes bundled with this, that, aquella, eso, and that carp over there! Only 4 easy payments of....

No thanks. For essential info, I'd rather it be free and appropriately tagged, not nagged. The torrent shareware version did that well.

[nijaexhile3]

I think he already explained why he did it that way(incase people just watched one part)

Godamn you complain alot for someone getting something for free. Talk about a sense of entitlement. If you no likey then moooove along.

[KelferMookie]

Are you gay??

[benhogan007]

Oh wait, he's the corporate icon of DC comics...ohh I get, this is how Doomsday killed Superman (the idea)...using an (corporate) ideal to control the very thing he fights against....hmm

[benhogan007]

DOOMSDAY IS HERE!!...Someone call Superman!

[faszika]

commercials only work on idiots not me i dontr watch tv im their worst nightmare :)

[dub1681]

advertising is everywhere...whether you like it or not you are doomed..DOOOOMED!!!

[faszika]

im not doomed i dont have a TV set and radio (dont read the papers much neither) :) i get my info online, watch what *I* chose not what "they" want me to see do the same and youll be one step closer to freedom :)

[jbrentoniv]

yeah, you're safe. There's no advertising online...*eyes roll so far into the back of my head that I am seeing God right now*

[faszika]

i dont read ads man... geeezzz :P:P

[lovelysprinkles]

did you know most people don't think advertising or marketing work on them? however, studies show that it does work even though people are unaware of it. that's food for thought.

[faszika]

could be cause i do feel bad about myself for not owning so much stuff... even though i really dont want anything more but i know people dont respect as much as they would if i had more rubbish material things

[MoonAharshMistress]

Me too, I dont possess a TV . altho i sometimes watch news 24 for like 5 hours straight at my friends house.

It sort of reminds me of 1984 and u expect the screen to scream "Winston! Your not paying attention in there!"

A good book on how the western media even admit their own take on news is western propoganda is "Pilger: The New Rulers of the Earth"But, yes, people do try to imbue u with shame if u dont own a tv, a box set, an internet connection or even an ipod... is it dissident??

[llcoolbrett]

it is a dicotomy of self. you are free to do and act as we say whilst aligning freedom away from their control. SMART FUCKS

[themanyone]

Ironic that the ones who seek to drive us apart in the name of profit also bring us together in the name of life.

[PacApp5]

I doubt this vid really had only 22k views, when the commercials advertised and taken to task in this documentary are seen by millions everyday.

[incubusrsnnglyp]

brilliant gorgeous film. proud vegan. thanks for the upload machbar. I was already aware, but I love the way it's is presented in this film

[machbar]

Thank you for taking the time to express your appreciation. It helps keep me going.

[HerrGeneralVonBraun]

you should ask her out

[dub1681]

i could really go for a McDonalds Bacon Double Cheeseburger right about now.

[faszika]

fuck that shit =D

[jbrentoniv]

agreed.

[cesar210788]

INteresting. I finally find something that appeals to my opinion; Corporate slavery is primarily a psychological one, not a monetary.

[love805]

Perception of a perfect world has been thrown out the window for sometime now.. issues such as this one is but one small grain of sand at the beach.. There are solutions to everything, all we have to do is look. One by one can be corrected. thanx for posting..

[neothomist1275]

Corporations, like Frankenstein, the Tin Man and robots, are based on the GOLEM of the kabbalah: a body without a soul.

[marcopolothomas]

This film does raise many important questions, but no solutions. so ok lets get rid of corporations, hmm now how are we going to make all the products that we use. well since some products are deemed wrong by the central intellegence beurocracy then we will have no choice. Good thing Chavez wants to ban alchohol, finally a man who wants to save us from ourselves.

i actually agree with alot of the movie but it offers little alternative.

[machbar]

How explicitly do you need "alternatives" spelled out? Listen a little more carefully to the progressive voices in the film—including business people like Ray Anderson. Watch the last 20 minutes. Review comments by Chomsky. Read the book. Watch the "Strategies for Change" section on Disc 2. etc. etc.

[prayfertrey]

There are alternatives and ppl. are taking them. Every year the population of homeschoolers grows larger, in real terms, not just per capita. You just can't have a corporate state without corporate citizens. You can't have a mixed economy with corporate citizens. There is no way.

[machbar]

I think you'd enjoy Adam Curtis' "The Trap"

[prayfertrey]

Well, now I have to finally go look at it.

[marcopolothomas]

so if marketing is so powerful than how come the american car industry can't get people to buy there cars. Because of increased competition with Asian manufacturers, customers have decided with there wallets.

[Davey1977]

You're COMPLETELY missing the big picture. Go back a bit and listen to the part about individual values vs. systemic values. Whether or not one individual corporation is successful, accountable, or one of the "good guys" is irrelevant. It's a whole system of marketing, profit, waste and harm that gets jammed down our throats every day.

[neothomist1275]

The American car industry, like most other American industries, was destroyed intentionally.

[kkloten]

JOBOBE what the hell are you on about?

[JOBEBOBE]

learning from our mistakes "aura".my mistake it's connection,the purpose,body field of reality,psychological & traceable connections.From any field to another.Perception of slipping from grip ability to catch.Physical field of action & links to connective attentive mental field.over judgement yous or mind.most good & your mine memory & reflectiveness when returning to look into connections & why?

[machbar]

Sure, "honestly" paying scientists to create doubt in the public mind about climate change.

[littlecitizen]

Marketers should know that themselves will be thrown away once there appears a better one. No mercy in it!

[santosh67]

Seen this clean energy hulla ballo? I think its better to see the executives of Exxon who are at least honest to say that all the clean talk is just a talk

[yourmomaaa]

It just doesn't matter, whether their honest or not, what matters is that they are clean.

Which no one is of course, so I guess Exxon at least gets a gold star for honesty.

[LazarusDurden]

Wow! With the Billboards I just had a They Live flashback.  Nice.