ROB ANDREWS vs PATRICK McHENRY (Who Won This Debate? YOU Make The Call!)

[mollykyb1]

Andrews PWNed McHenry!!

[Vetwolf13]

Maybe Ryan and the rest of his nigger (GOP) inbred buddies could spend a little time trying to creat jobs in this country instead of taking more of our hard earned money and giving it to his rich corporate slave owners! These niggers gotta go-all of them!

[GOPkicksbutt]

Thanks to liberal policies America can no longer afford to pay for medicare, social security, unemployment and many other services. We also need to lower the minimum wage to $2/hr in order to compete with China and bring jobs back home. Fiscally responsible conservatives like Paul Ryan and John Boehner know this and are currently

working to end these wasteful handout programs and bring the minimum wage down so that America can be great again. God bless the GOP!

[bobster451]

Thank You Mr. Andrews for the correct approach to the issues.

[Fantome1989]

I pledge allegiance to the profits of the Corporate States of America, and to the stock market for which it stands, one nation, under the Federal Reserve, with taxation and serfdom for all.

[AceHoale]

I can't make my mind up between the podium and the microphone.

The first guy didn't say anything but smeared the "other" party mostly.

The only notable thing was that he made me think that if you have to scratch your ballsack while standing on a podium, no one will suspect a thing, and if, you just "adjusted" the lever (aaaaaaah!, that's better).

Second guy more down my lane, but I'd say Microphone 2 gets my vote.

For style and substance.

Peas.

[keggerous]

yeah . .. i just sucked that guys dick in my thoughts. i think we all know u won. that short little faggot got his shit pushed right in! too bad he enjoyed every ass pumping second of it :(

[BMovieWackiness]

As I recall, and I might be wrong, Andrews was the only Congressman from NJ to not sign on as a co-sponsor to the Audit the Fed bill.

[Mauhadeeb28]

He is taking the internet boom's job creation and applying it to Clinton era policies.... If that is true then you would also have to apply the internet bust to Clinton.

[Boomer1949]

@Mauhadeeb28 What happened on wall st after the hard work of laying down a internet across this country had nothing to do with Clinton, it had a lot to do with the same criminals that brought you our latest recession/depression. But as you and I can see today, the internet and all the jobs around this service to schools, individuals and corporations were facilitated by the Clinton administration...your welcome.

[Mauhadeeb28]

@Boomer1949 "After the hard work of laying down a internet...." What?

Clinton had nothing to do with the internet and you know it!

[waltermh111]

@Mauhadeeb28 Your snipe is irrelevent to the point.

Were the job losses due to the slightly higher taxes? No

Were the jobs originally still made even with the slightly higher taxes? Yes

The tax hike did not affect job growth negatively.

There was in fact stilll great job growth.

Thats the debate.

Its a lie that tax hikes for the rich affect job growth.

[Mauhadeeb28]

@waltermh111 What snipe?

It is hard to gauge what the taxes' reactions to the market were in the midst of an entirely new technological boom and bubble.

It isn't a lie that that effect job growth. It is a lie that they don't affect pricing. Higher prices while maintaining current wages ie The expanse between the rich and poor grows. Just one of the many different effects but of course there is more to that expanse than just taxes. Government is so big and encompassing we could go on for days

[waltermh111]

@Mauhadeeb28 Taxes do not affect job growth.

You dont know how a business runs if you think so, or maybe your a lousy business owner. They like to pop up for these debates.

If a company has demand X which requires service lvl Y, he will make the money to pay employees by providing and keeping the customers.

If he doesnt hire enough, he doesnt keep customers due to low quality of service. Lowering taxes wont help him hire more people. He either needs more or he doesnt.

[Mauhadeeb28]

@waltermh111 Taxes/regulations on businesses do effect job growth. They raise operating the costs and monopolize growth.

I suppose the effects of taxes on the income of those that run those businesses would be less however. Either way, there are so many friggen dimensions to it that simply taxing or cutting taxes doesn't solve anything.

You can manipulate everything anyway you want when you hold the power to change the value of the dollar.

[waltermh111]

@Mauhadeeb28 Tax effect on prices has not shown a noticable trend.

Prices did not rise past the trending inflation under clinton and in fact, inflation was below avg during most if not all of his tenure.

In history when we had over 50% tax on rich prices were not higher than expected for inflation.

You need to prove to me your assertion that price is affected to a meaningful degree.

Granted, price is possibly affected by tax on the rich in some way, but not noticably.

[Mauhadeeb28]

@waltermh111 I can't prove anything outside of correlations since this topic is impossible to "prove". It all depends on an individuals personal judgement to decide if they bu the correlation or not. This is not an exact science. Be honest, I don't feel like searching for this information to prove a point on a subject that can't be proven on any definitive level.

I do however know that whether we cut or tax, it will not solve anything on its own. An overhaul or collapse is inevitable.

[katehtown]

@Mauhadeeb28

I think the main point is that conservatives claimed the economy would tank if we raised taxes on the rich, the "important job creators." I'm pretty sure the tech industry didn't add 23 million jobs on its own - there was an all around boom period. Then over speculation by Wall Street into the tech industry caused it to tank, and then it happened with mortgages, and it's happening right now with higher education, food, and gasoline.

[SirRavin]

Did he scratch his balls right away? 00:18

Like a boss.

[Tressco]

@SirRavin

More like a prospector.

[SirRavin]

@Tressco Truth

[Mauhadeeb28]

Answer to the title: The government won. The individual lost.