I like Part I, but found Part 2 biased and duplicitous - patent propaganda for HHDL and justification of the ban on Dorje Shugden practice - which was stated as part of the goal of making Tibetan Buddhism "non-sectarian" in order to meet with acceptance by the Chinese. Part 1 is a good history lesson.
Look, let's think on this. After all the conflict between 多杰雄登 [Duo Jie Xiong Deng, dorjeshugden] and Dalai, only one thing is clear: the Banchan lama [Panchen], 班禅喇嘛 is the only true Teacher. Thank goodness he is now old enough to lead, in our time of confusion and trouble!
As we can see, much confusion arising from the practise of DS and Dalai, is not possible to untangle. All these years, the dharma has been ripening to this point, now it is finished: the only true way is that of the Panchen. Ever since the beginning of the controversy, people asked, why? Why all this? That is because the answer is now clear: Panchen Erdeni, 班禅喇嘛/班禅额尔德尼, can only show us the way forward now.
As we can clearly see, the confusion arising from the practise of DS and Dalai, is not possible to untangle. All these years, the dharma has been ripening to this point, now it is finished: the only true way is that of the Panchen. Ever since the beginning of the controversy, people asked, why? Why all this? That is because the answer is now clear: Panchen Erdeni, 班禅喇嘛/班禅额尔德尼, can only show us the way forward now.
The comments from iwannaberich2007 are not wrong. Just another point of view. And I think that we should all contemplate one another's views and respect them although we may not agree.
only shugden are supporting the true panchen lama 确吉杰布! The other panchen chose by the Dalai is completely false!
Strong support to NKT, wss, shugden and panchen Erdeni, the true line, thank you. Don't let Tibetan split the country, you don't know it but Tibetan are worse than arab for terrorism, thank you!
Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.
Why does HH the Dalai Lama need to repeat his 'warnings' re Dorje Shugden so many times. If Dorje Shugden truly was a demon and harmful, then HH and other high lamas should just subdue him through ritual. After all Nechung is an evil spirit, subdued by Guru Rinpoche and bound to help. After being subdued, you dont hear Guru Rinpoche warning us re him anymore. So if Dorje Shugden cannot be subdued by HH or high lamas, then he must be more powerful than the Dalai Lama??Or he is enlightened.Think.
I have read this exact same comment on every single video about Dorje Shugden. You guys are spamming the hell out of any contrary thought out there. It doesn't look good.
The ban the Tibetan Govt has on Dorje Shugden is making him bigger in the world. Ironically, if they want to slow his practice down, they must lift the ban. Chinese govt backed up by 1.2 billion citizens is promoting the practice vehemently. For whatever reasons, doesnt matter, the fact is that they are promoting. It all started because Tibetan Govt said the practice should be stopped. So it can only get bigger and now backed up by Tibet's 2nd highest lama, the panchen rinpoche.
There was much more unity among the Tibetan ppl before the Dorje Shugden ban. Having this ban has not benefitted anyone. There should be zero religious repression inside and outside of Tibet.
HH Dalai Lama should accept all Tibetans irregardless of their relgious orientation. No Tibetans should ever be ostracized due to their religious beliefs. HH should accept and welcome everyone as a Relgious Leader of 6 million Tibetans.
But Shugden followers are very secterian, they think they are superior and once they ruled Tibet but they want to keep the power still, H.H. wants a diversity buddhist society, not fall into secterian !
I like Part I, but found Part 2 biased and duplicitous - patent propaganda for HHDL and justification of the ban on Dorje Shugden practice - which was stated as part of the goal of making Tibetan Buddhism "non-sectarian" in order to meet with acceptance by the Chinese. Part 1 is a good history lesson.
domino11350 1 year ago
let me clarify,
we can question our gurus and not follow blindly! hence we have the tradition of DEBATE. we can ask and clarify until we UNDERSTAND.
to know more and understand fully this issue go to dorje shugden -dot- com
harrynephew 2 years ago
Have a look at
cnnstillIying 's channel, it really speaks volumes!!
swiftgaruda 2 years ago
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Look, let's think on this. After all the conflict between 多杰雄登 [Duo Jie Xiong Deng, dorjeshugden] and Dalai, only one thing is clear: the Banchan lama [Panchen], 班禅喇嘛 is the only true Teacher. Thank goodness he is now old enough to lead, in our time of confusion and trouble!
kokoIiam59 2 years ago
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As we can see, much confusion arising from the practise of DS and Dalai, is not possible to untangle. All these years, the dharma has been ripening to this point, now it is finished: the only true way is that of the Panchen. Ever since the beginning of the controversy, people asked, why? Why all this? That is because the answer is now clear: Panchen Erdeni, 班禅喇嘛/班禅额尔德尼, can only show us the way forward now.
DiamondGirI1971 2 years ago
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As we can clearly see, the confusion arising from the practise of DS and Dalai, is not possible to untangle. All these years, the dharma has been ripening to this point, now it is finished: the only true way is that of the Panchen. Ever since the beginning of the controversy, people asked, why? Why all this? That is because the answer is now clear: Panchen Erdeni, 班禅喇嘛/班禅额尔德尼, can only show us the way forward now.
vinayahoIder 2 years ago
The comments from iwannaberich2007 are not wrong. Just another point of view. And I think that we should all contemplate one another's views and respect them although we may not agree.
DiamondGirl1971 2 years ago
go shugden go go go!
only shugden are supporting the true panchen lama 确吉杰布! The other panchen chose by the Dalai is completely false!
Strong support to NKT, wss, shugden and panchen Erdeni, the true line, thank you. Don't let Tibetan split the country, you don't know it but Tibetan are worse than arab for terrorism, thank you!
cnnstillIying 2 years ago
@cnnstillIying
Oh Dear. I pray for you.
swiftgaruda 2 years ago
Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.
— Buddha
declanring 2 years ago
Why does HH the Dalai Lama need to repeat his 'warnings' re Dorje Shugden so many times. If Dorje Shugden truly was a demon and harmful, then HH and other high lamas should just subdue him through ritual. After all Nechung is an evil spirit, subdued by Guru Rinpoche and bound to help. After being subdued, you dont hear Guru Rinpoche warning us re him anymore. So if Dorje Shugden cannot be subdued by HH or high lamas, then he must be more powerful than the Dalai Lama??Or he is enlightened.Think.
iwannaberich2007 2 years ago
I have read this exact same comment on every single video about Dorje Shugden. You guys are spamming the hell out of any contrary thought out there. It doesn't look good.
theorganichispanic 2 years ago 2
More powerful? A restless soul! In this topic you westerners have no clue about it, so don't mixed up.
He is not 100% not enlightened, not a Boddhisattwa. You are all so naive,
Ganeschar 2 years ago
The ban the Tibetan Govt has on Dorje Shugden is making him bigger in the world. Ironically, if they want to slow his practice down, they must lift the ban. Chinese govt backed up by 1.2 billion citizens is promoting the practice vehemently. For whatever reasons, doesnt matter, the fact is that they are promoting. It all started because Tibetan Govt said the practice should be stopped. So it can only get bigger and now backed up by Tibet's 2nd highest lama, the panchen rinpoche.
iwannaberich2007 2 years ago
It is not question of being big or small, what the use of whorshipping a restless soul,
He did not banned - just request not to receive empowerment if you worship DS.
Maybe it is hurting for you people that DL does not worship DS, did you questioned that why ?????????????????????????
Ganeschar 2 years ago
There was much more unity among the Tibetan ppl before the Dorje Shugden ban. Having this ban has not benefitted anyone. There should be zero religious repression inside and outside of Tibet.
HH Dalai Lama should accept all Tibetans irregardless of their relgious orientation. No Tibetans should ever be ostracized due to their religious beliefs. HH should accept and welcome everyone as a Relgious Leader of 6 million Tibetans.
Go to this website and read more
dorjeshugden(dot)com.
iwannaberich2007 2 years ago
He is leader for us none believers too.
But Shugden followers are very secterian, they think they are superior and once they ruled Tibet but they want to keep the power still, H.H. wants a diversity buddhist society, not fall into secterian !
Ganeschar 2 years ago 2