Les Quilles à TQS - 7 février 2009 (part 2 of 2)

[BIGGREENLEAF1]

Denis, is the pin action any different with the string machines vs. the free fall machines. having just won my first regular duckpin title in November in Rhode Island in only my 8th tournament I'm dying to try this rubberband version as well, to bad we don't have any here in the states...

[apodino]

Denis, one curiousity. I notice that you guys use a much different technique in this than in other small ball games. In ordinary duckpins or candlepins the ball is usually thrown hard and straight, the thinking being the harder the impact, the more pin action. You guys use a technique where you put backspin on the ball as you release it, and release it softly. This seems to cause the ball to slide down the alley rather than roll. Why do you rubberbanders use this different technique?

[tiger7128816]

Well, because of those rubber bands, the pin action is much, much bigger than regular duckpin. So, when you throw it too hard, the pins jump and their action isn't quite as good. And the backspin that we use makes it so much easier to control the effect that we want (hook, late hook, reverse, late reverse). And, with rubber bands duckpins, the best pin action comes when the ball hits the pins exactly when the rotation switches from backspin to topspin (when there's no rotation!).

[apodino]

Thanks much, it all makes sense now. I often wonder watching you guys how that technique would do in either Candlepin, or plain Duckpins.

[Pistakeerick]

@tiger7128816  Does this game involve as little strategy or need to "play the lanes" as it appears? Candlepin & both forms of duckpin seem to involve chucking (or in this case, politely backspinning) the ball in the general direction of the headpin & hoping for the best. Another observation: this knuckledragging form of duckpin can't be very easy to play for older folks with creaky knees. They'll go down for the shot & get stuck there!

[tiger7128816]

@Pistakeerick Actually, you really need to play the lanes accordingly, with the right effect, with the right amount of backspin to get the maximum pin reaction... No lanes and pinfall are the same so, sometimes you play for example 3 stripes to the left and throw it 4 left with an effect from right to left, and it comes back in the center!

In this tv taping, I was playing the first lane 6 right and throwing 4 right, and on the other lane, I was playing 2 right for 2 right. Both with curve.

[BIGGREENLEAF1]

Why are these pins placed closer together on the pin deck than regular duckpins without the rubberband on the belly? It appears as though these pins are only about 8 inches apart instead of 12 inches like regular duckpins, candlepins or tenpins.

[tiger7128816]

It may seem that way but they ARE 12 inches apart from each other. The lanes here are exactly as lenghty and wide as regular duckpins, or tenpins for that matter.

[BIGGREENLEAF1]

Looks can be deceiving as some of the camera shots that are up close on the pindecks make them look closer together. Why do they have like all the pin spots worn over and what is that duct tape looking stuff behind the 1,2 ,3 pins?

[tiger7128816]

I honestly don't know why there's duct tape there!!! The spots where the pins go are almost always there in every bowling center (for the event that you would have to plant them manually!!) but the tape...?! Mystery!

[pats14fann01]

Or candlepinsl!! Dont leave out the candlepins!!!!