YOU ARE VERY FUNNY AND MADE ME LAUGH A LOT...BUT BOTTOM LINES ARE BOTTOM LINES.. YOU HAVE CHOOSEN TO DEFEND THE PLANET AND COVER YOUR BACKSIDE IN CASE IT'S ALL TRUE.. REALLY FUNNY STUFF THOUGH..KEEP UP THE HUMOR AND VENTURE FORTH WITHOUT ANY DEGREE OF FAITH IN GOD IF YOU STUBBORNLY WISH TO..I WISH YOU EVERY GOOD THING.... I LOVE COMEDY.
I think your friend's view about faith and God's will is distorted. Suppose she is right about God's Will. Prayer alone will not fix any problem, no matter how trivial or "big". God commanded Solomon and his army to pray for victory in battle over there enemies in the creation of their kingdom. But they still had to get up and go fight the battles. Apply this to climate destabilization and the conclusion is inescapable. Pray. But do as well. And we can achieve anything.
Assessing climate change in a drought-stricken state
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Scientists hedge, particularly when it comes to the drought, because they are reluctant to pin any single weather event on climate change. They point to La Niña, an intermittent Pacific Ocean phenomenon that affects storms, as the immediate cause.
I'd make the argument that there are BILLIONS of cars on this planet and that our cumulative usage of them is beginning to have a cumulative effect on the environment, and then ask them how that's hard to comprehend. Like you said, there is no way to draw a magical line that halts our reach. As we've found, due to technology, our reach essentially knows no bounds.
I think Gods will is beyond human understanding. And you should too, if You respected people's beliefs.o say that Gods will does not come into account in this matter to a person of belief is a blasphemy.
@darkhairedguy how do you know it's blasphemy? how do you know god HAS a will? how do you know there IS a god? how do you know it's beyond our understanding? you're just guessing. you're just hoping. there's no reason to believe in any of that, and therefore we dont consider it. it's POSSIBLE that it exists, but again there is NO reason to believe it because there is NO evidence.
Bringing people's beliefs into it is another foolish move.
Tell me which CO2 molecule in the atmosphere comes from humans and which comes from the gils of a fish. And then tell me which one of these is beneficial for plant growth on land, phytoplankton production in the seas.
Now, tell the fish to stop breathing. Or the bacteria to stop emitting CO2. Or the volcanos to hold it for a while and wait. After all, they're causing 97% of the CO2 emissions, as opposed to a mere 3% for us humans.
Hypothetically, if you scaled up the water tester, who knew for SURE if the water was fine or not, then the scientists in aspect to the global warming issue would have to have no doubt that it is occurring in order for the fish-water tester analogy to apply.
Human beings are self destructive. I mean if it's not one thing it's another. The majority of religious folk I've met want to lean on Gods coming as a way to get out of reality. It's easy to lean on, oh trust me, but when you sit down and lay the facts vs. the faith it's pretty much a horror story being played out. I just hate the two extremes of faith vs fact. Ignorance is bliss for some folk.
HA HA.. it looks as though you are first for the personal attack in regards to my intelligence and understanding. There is no design... truth stands apart from what we think or believe which is exactly why all religions that revolve around an assumption of God are dividing or dwindling. The more we progress as humans the more we realize that we have to have faith in ourselves and work as a team if we are going to survive. We cannot know what created us. Let us move forward
HA HA.. it looks as though you are first for the personal attack in regards to my intelligence and understanding. There is no design... truth stands apart from what we think or believe which is exactly why all religions that revolve around an assumption of God are dividing or dwindling. The more we progress as humans the more we realize that we have to have faith in ourselves and work as a team if we are going to survive. We cannot know what created us.. let us move forward
It's not God's punishment, humans are ruining the habitation of this planet, so humans can fix it, or at least reduce our negative affect. We cannot know what God wants of us, and saying he does (even from the bible) is blasphomous, because we cannot know our creator truly.. and our concept of God is merely a delusion of what we want him to be, and the very moment we try to assume anything about God, it's wrong. Especially the holy bible, and other allegorical books...
Geoengineering is the most logical course of action. Assuming the current scoop on global warming is true, you could think of it this way; there are a great number of diseases out there that we can avoid, its easy to avoid them if we take some 'easy' precautions (STD/Is for example) however we don't avoid them because these 'easy' precautions don't fit in with our lifestyle, even though we would rather not catch the disease. So we invented a cure.... Geoengineering is the cure.
@ElProximo - All I see here is logical thinking and practical deduction. Please explain the condescension. I seem to be blind to it and want to be aware.
@ElProximo - I really do... Is it hard to believe that there are people out there willing to learn from others? If you truly see condescension please point it out so I can be aware the next time I'm faced with it.
it is man falt why this happening but is allso god judgement onnman for there sinfull hearts rhe only thing u can save is your on future life but whats coming can not be changed see whats comeing is what god said would come he dont want us to sop it he just wantsus to exept jesus and be saved so when the end comes we will be with him for all enterity see poeple got to realize that our future is are we going to be with jesus or hell get to know god soyou can be ready to meet him when he comes..
it is man falt why this happening but is allso god judgement onnman for there sinfull hearts rhe only thing u can save is your on future life but whats coming can not be changed see whats comeing is what god said would come he dont want us to sop it he just wantsus to exept jesus and be saved so when the end comes we will be with him for all enterity
it is man falt why this happening but is allso god judgement onnman for there sinfull hearts rhe only thing u can save is your on future life but whats coming can not be changed
YEAH SURE! It could be humans that causing the global climate change. But if God allows it, then it is still according to the will of God for us to experience the change which we ourselves may have caused. So we can see how poluted or corrupted we are and only know how to destroy... being greedy and self-proud of something that isn't to be proud of.
Either we seek God and a life with God or we shall be left out without God in this life and the next. God's will is for us to seek God's salvation.
my point of view is this: God is WHAT created us, but what was that? big bang? Noooooo! I believe that if we live in a world, that lives in a galaxy, that lives in a universe, this universe lives in some kind of enormouse place wich contains millions and millions of universes, we will never see the limits of the universe, because it has not, they say its expanding but there are a lot of posibles xplinations that we dont know for that. God is that, the father of the universeS
@tommygun649 "The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God's will, and actually fulfill God's will, and not let God's word be desecrated. For God's will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord's creation, the divine will." -Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Ralph Manheim, ed., New York: Mariner Books, 1999, p. 562.
maybe it's GOD's will... AND our impact! It could be these two ideas do not contradict one another. Maybe it's GOD's will that we clean our shit up! Remember when you were a kid and you had to clean up your room? Well, the earth is the only place in the universe where these bodies work and this is the house we all live in... Maybe the only thing GOD is ever asking us to do is take responsibility for our selves (SELF {I AM}) and realize that we are the ones creating the world we live in....
OMG, this guy is hilarious...Let's take the "known" (i.e. pollution in a river) and expand it to the "unknown"!!!
As Stephen Hawking believes there is no god...But things do exist that we don't understand yet. Why try to affect things before we understand them?!?!?
Remember, statistical correlation does NOT mean causation!!!
So you see the end of days is a problem - Jesus only meant that when his age - Pieces - you know, the jesus fish; it's a astrological representation and nothing else. Jesus said you'd ender the halls and at the end you'll find a man bearing a cask of water - a clear reference to another astrological: Aquarius. It's also why Moses got SO pissed to find his people worshiping a golden cow; a symbology of the old age - taurus, when Moses was there to issue in the age of Pieces. Yet more astrology.
There is a problem with the concept of Armageddon, that being it should not occur. At least not according to the bible. You see, with Jesus' sacrifice, god's wrath was supposed to be sated. Man's sin was atoned for. This means that final judgement should only not occur, but the concept OF Armageddon at all is a massive misunderstanding. Because you see when J's disc's asked where to find him 'at the end of days', the word was a mistranslation it was 'the end of the AGE' - the dawn of Aquarius.
Since there is no chapter in the Bible devoted to the issue of Global Climate Change complete with 30+ years of peer-reviewed research, I think we shouldn't look towards it for answers, at least for this problem.
To put it into perspective, trying to fix Global Climate Change with your Bible is sort of like trying to fix your iPad by reading the owner's manual for your Lexus.
THE LORD IS NOT SLACK CONCERNING HIS PROMISE , AS SOME COUNT SLACKNESS , BUT IS LONGSUFFERING TOWARD US , NOT WILLING THAT ANY SHOULD PERISH BUT THAT ALL SHOULD COME TO REPENTANCE . 2 PETER 2 3:9 . JESUS CHRIST IS THE ANSWER , SEEK HIM NOW AND HE WILL SAVE YOU FROM THE WRATH TO COME .
This will all end when Israel is encompassed by nations for battle, Foretold thousands of years ago in the bible and stop going on about Gods will. This is all mans will that got us to this stage, eventually Gods going to stop it. This information is free!
@Ihatemelee Dude! your up me when your armed with only part of the info. There's good news coming from all this! The world's not coming to a end, it's this bullshit man made system thats going to end. Israel's war with it's surrounding nations will be the final war, it will bring the return of the Messiah, who will bring peace to the world! Your right, free information is not always "correct" but as least I'm not trying to sell you a dvd! Watch Israel, it's getting close!
@Romerosays yeah yeah yeah, i used to be sucked into all that crap too because i was indoctranated from birth with no real choice of my own, those crazies over there have fought as long as anyone can rember over bs from ancient texts about dirt and birthrights because there crap holy books tell them too.
there is no need for a messiah. there is no need to worship the god of abraham because in all likelyhood it doesnt exist anyway. the sooner everyone realizes that the better.
@Ihatemelee Just because they fed you the bullshit version doesn't mean the real truth surrounding it doesn't exist! If I was taught what they taught you, I'd be saying and feeling the exact same thing, no doubt about it. Your experience doesn't disproved the authenticity of the scriptures or its message. I was not indoctrinated as a child, but searched it out as an adult, after many years of study and sorting out the man-made dodgy doctrines, I had come to the conclusion it was all to ..cont
@Ihatemeleereal to deny. I know your saying, yeah, yeah, yeah again, but if you knew what I know, you would believe, and know that what was prophesied is now starting to fall into play. As for, no need for a Messiah, it couldn't be any further from the truth. Our world is in big trouble, nations are collapsing like domino's, the uprising in the middle east is such as never seen before...cont
@Ihatemelee The planet is financially broke, immorally destitute and environmentally stuffed, and man has shit in his nest one to-many times. The only one who has the credentials and power to fix it, is Christ. Soon everyone will realise it!
@Romerosays if i knew what you knew huh? what would that be exactly? i'm willing to bet that i know more about it than you. and you want to know what i know? you have no proof to back up the proflagate truth claims of your faith, therfore you don't "know" anything.
you just have faith claims that can be proven wrong as soon as you open your mouth.
so to get around the cognative disonance they produce, you change your stance or run around saying a whole lot, of nothing.
@Ihatemelee Dude I got history on my side, backed up by logic and common sense with the proven authenticity of scripture. So far you just got a big mouth that spews forth vindictiveness, and now you want to defend your self rejected brand of faith (guessing soured J W) and compare it up against mine. Sounds like you got your own dissonance to deal with, so don't vent your anger on me. If you want to learn anything, then be nice! Believe it or not, I actually felt sorry for you.
"you just have faith claims that can be proven wrong as soon as you open your mouth.
so to get around the cognative disonance they produce, you change your stance or run around saying a whole lot, of nothing."
wheres your proof? wheres your logic? where is your authenticity? saying it and having it are 2 completely diferant things. or as I first wrote " free information is not necessarily "corect" information."
@Ihatemelee You want prove of the real God, then look to Jews for your answers. In case you didn't know, they are the smartest (more nobel prize winners), wealthiest, talented and gifted people on the planet, while your ancestors where throwing rocks at one another, the Jews were being educated. No nation on earth has endured what they have been through, they have been hunted down, massacred and scatted all over the world, many have tried to eradicate them from the face of the planet,..cont
@Ihatemelee yet they won't go away, only to return back into their land (remember 1948), another prophecy fulfilled. It is because God said concerning Israel, "I WILL MAKE A FULL END OF THEE" If you want to disprove God and the scriptures to me, then destroy Israel. Please don't tell me I guessed JW right!
@Romerosays thats not significant proof because the proficy is to vague, like all past atributed proficies usualy are. so you need somthing better. aas far as JW, jehovas witness i guess? no, i was never afiliated with that cult of moron lol. i was non-denom i researched apologetics for fun, then i found that every defence for christianity i found there was a counter arguement for, something i haddent been studying because i saw no need, when i looked at both sides, i realized i was wrong.
@Ihatemelee You are misleading yourself! There is nothing vague about prophesies when it comes to Israel, (two hundred years ago, people have known Israel's return under the aid of the British) the prognosticate surrounding the Jews is quite clear and is beyond question. The nation's antecedents to this day, cannot be explained on ordinary assertions, they are unique and stand alone! Even Mark Twain ( like many others) took notice of them, he said, cont....
@Ihatemelee quote, "his contributions to the worlds list of great names in literature, science, art, music, finance, medicine, and abstruse learning are also away out of his proportion to the weakness of his numbers. He has made a marvellous fight in this world, in all the ages; and has done it with his hands tied behind him." There is but only one logical explanation for their brilliant erudition and existence, God! There is nothing vague about, " I WILL MAKE A FULL END OF THEE! "
@Romerosays Mark twain was atheist and was commenting in that quote that the jewish race seems almost immortal in as much as they have been able to stick around a long time. atributing there desire to go back to that land after the fact is still vague atribtations and not real hard proof of proficy. Oh and way to misquote jeremiah 30:11 and try to turn it into a theat. /golfclap at you sir. You have a bit of froth at the corners of your mouth.
@Ihatemelee Who cares about him being an atheist, he could of been an axe murderer for all I care! Its about his and others acknowledgement of what people visually discern of this particular nation! The Jews are strikingly unique, this is the point I'm driving at! As for Jeremiah 30, wasn't quoting from it ( since you mentioned it, read from v 3 on), I was merely stating a common parlance or idiomatic which best sums up the hundreds of scriptural prophecies surrounding Israel's future. cont...
@Ihatemelee Yourself being an ex-believer, I assumed you got the general notion of it. When I quote scripture, I always give reference, sorry for being misleading! As for frothing at the corners of my mouth, can't see any happening at this stage. Your gonna have to go harder!
Where you stand on this subject is truly up to the individual. Whether you believe that God is destroying the Earth, or that humankind is doing all the work, is up to you and no one else. This is an argument that cannot be won for either side. Decide for yourself, do the research, and look at it from both sides of view. The scientist view, and the believers in God's view, and from there, make your own choice on the matter.
how can we truly find the answer with a little more than 6000 years of recorded history? we simply do not have enough record to know if this is a long drawn out natural climate change. if the stories of the tropical era, in which dinosaurs lived, is true then followed by an ice age. whats to say that we couldn't be heading back into a tropical era?
@courtneybelcher Scientists do not reach conclusions based on recorded history. Text in ancient books is just text in ancient books.
Besides, 6000 years is just a microscopic fraction of how far scientists have been able to see into the past. In other words, for exemple, the Earth is 4.54 billion years old, and 6000 years is roughly 0.000000013% of the Earth's age.
A very good argument AGAINST the existance of god is this: He has allowed humans to argue and even war over his existance and what his will is. He knows that there are many different religions each of which thinks their followers are the only ones who will get into heaven, and he watches all this and is willing to condemn anyone to hell who gets it wrong, like the south park episode where a bunch of religious people went to hell and were told by the devil that mormons were the correct religion.
@Zurround100 Good point! But fortunately God's given us a free will to chose, along with instructions on how to live and treat our fellow man. Our governments give us rules and we argue and war over them to, just look at the uprising going on in the middle east at this very moment. This doesn't prove that governments don't exist any more than it disproves God's existence. Unfortunately most people haven't even come close to hearing the truth concerning God's word, cont....
@Zurround100 for example: Did you know that nobody goes to heaven, God promised it to no one. The phrase immortal soul and the words rapture and trinity are not found in the bible, yet "Christians" believe in it. Even the common understanding of Hell and the Devil are totally false. These and many more have brainwashed people for centuries. The biggest misconception of all, is that all roads lead to God, yet the bible teaches ONE God, ONE hope, ONE baptism, ONE gospel, ONE faith our cont....
@Romerosays im sorry, but this is the most pathetic argument against Christianity and the Bible. Any Atheist that actually studied the Bible would laugh at you.
@WooSukSuks Don't be sorry, but be enlightened! This is not against Christianity, but against the lies surrounding it! Since when did Atheist's study the bible?
@Romerosays actually a lot of athiests, or i should say, a lot of people in general, study the Bible because it's very interesting. and i only believe that these "lies surrounding it" are the false interpretations and teachings that are taught over time, or beliefs of "christians" that claim they are christian, but really don't study the scriptures. because if you meant "the lies surrounding it" as the bible itself containing lies, that would be arguable, with no accurate answer to that claim.
@WooSukSuks All the atheist I know don't know the front cover from the back, but I'm with you here! I was talking about its doctrinal interpretations which has lead and fuelled the way to scepticism.
@Zurround100 calling and ONE Lord and saviour, The man Jesus the Christ. The bible message is simple, yet man in all his great pride manages to even stuff that up. The bible teaches " he that believes the gospel and is baptised shall be saved, he that believes it not is condemned." See, simple. Find out what the real ONE gospel is and your halfway there! Hope this is food for thought. P.S. Missed that south park episode, bummer!
Yes, but I never said, nor the Bible, as to whom the blame, persay, lands on. God only showed the end of the world to on person, and all he did was write about it. The quote "you rep what you sow" comes to mind. We could have changed our fate, thus the wonders of free will. Yet, God knew we wouldn't, and won't.
GOD is an idea formed by the people to form the people. If everyone belived in one religion one god we would have "A whole". It's a BRILLIANT IDEA think of all the things we could do with universal cooperation. A damn shame that there can be only one. Chew on that for a minute.
@SodaKing23 Government is a idea formed by the people to form the people. If everyone believed in one system one ruler we would have " A kingdom " Guess what? This eventually is going to be a reality!
GOD is an Idea formed from the people to form the people. If everyone believed in one thing we would all be "a whole". Why do you think churches exist? Chew on that for a minute.
God's will is free. Look! The universe proves it and humans such as Isaac Newton or Aristotle have shown that things aren't always what you think. The Catholic Church didn't accept a spherical Earth until the year 1992. Are the leaders today any different? Yes, but we have many NEW things to UNVEIL. Just look into space, imagine being out in space - nothing stopping you from maintaining a new free floating direction that will NEVER stop until it is changed (reborn). Human nature dislikes change.
it changes when it goes from harming such small things as fish to harming humans and also the earth itself.
earthquakes may not be directly related to climate change, but the recent events in japan have shifted the earth's axis and rate of rotation. this could affect weather and climate.
i would also like to point out that we are seeing and likely will continue to see events that are referenced (however indirectly) at various spots in the Bible (obviously finished over 1000 years ago).
God knows and controls all. He knows what i was going to type this very second before i ever typed it.
I want to pose a greater question to all of those who believe in science over God.. where did life come from? science has not, and never will pose a logical answer for this. Faith can and has done so already. :)
@D1Champ08 Give it up man, why put all your hopes in a 3500 year old book? and instead take action for your own will. And another thing where was your "God" just recently hmm? Some one has wrote the bible believe me god didnt write it.
"God knows and controls all. He knows what i was going to type this very second before i ever typed it". Agreed.
Why would an all knowing God, put humans on this earth as a test of faith? Why would God not stop Eve from eating the apple? He knew she was going to do it before it even happened. Don't pull out your free-will bullshit.....thats like me pushing you over a cliff and then sayin, you have free will, save yourself.
@Romerosays holy shit forbidden fruit, sue me for stating something that makes absolutely no difference. Apple, orange, banana or w/e the f*ck it is has absolutely no bearing on the fact that God's omniscience and omnipotence would have been able to save all of humanity, but he didnt. Why? Because he has a hard-on for punishing people for something they cannot be held accountable for.
People like you have no argument, so you don't address the point.
@Haseeebo Um...Doesn't say forbidden fruit either! On the contrary, it does make a difference. Your argument will hold more weight if you get your facts right. Didn't know God had a willy, thanks for that insight! As for being held accountable, tell the law that same excuse next time they bust our arse. You shouldn't take the piss at me just because I'm slow at typing....two month old comment...go easy why don't ya!
@D1Champ08 Actualy faith has only gave you an assumption, while science gave the best explanation that they possibly could so far, based on more study and testing than you'll ever see or do in your whole life. If you can't see the diference in that, I wander what will you ever see...
Besides, if god knows all and controls all, then you're a masochist for worshiping such a cruel thing despite what it's doing.
I just hope scientists are wrong and you never have to feel sorry for yourself someday.
You have a good point, but to answer your question as to when it changes from human to God's will. It all comes down to faith, and if you believe what you read in The Bible to be true or not. My opinion? God's will. Revelations speaks of a time of great weather based disasters. I believe that time is now. God knew our failure would come to pass, and this is the price. I pray for all of you, lost and saved. May God keep watch, and let mercy prevail. For we may need it soon.
@KeithShap Does that really mean that god wants you to stay still and watch the sky fall over you? Wouldn't god probably wanted you to stand up for the challanges in your life? Wouldn't god wanted your life to have some meaning for humanity?
I believed in god until I was around 10 or 12. Up until then I always though god wanted me to be strong and do the right things. If this was happening back then I wouldn't just sit and wait like a praying mantis. Whatever your belief is, be human.
ABORTION is likely to be the greatest threat Humanity has ever faced. Do you think that’s over blown ? How the world ends up depends on you & what you do next. Mankind destroys with disregard for the Hand by which it was created. Abortion not only destroys life but also human dignity. It is an outrage that has cost the world valuable leadership and obscured the direction of human events. The pollution that is in hearts has a more far-reaching effect. Disregard for God's laws
I hate when people fight and swear. It just makes the person difficult to talk to.
Here are my thoughts:
We just don't have proof that mankind has caused global warming.
Also, you said that the prestigious AAAS and NAS are backing up the argument that mankind DID cause it. Well you also said yourself in the skeptic video that scientists are not always factual. Aristotle believed that the earth was round and also the center of the universe. THAT was obviously proven false.
I think this guy is giving his scientist buddies too much credit. after all the question isn't is it possible to change the world's climate, its is it possible to make irresponsible people make responsible decisions. And no I don't think the Gov't is the answer to this problem (to much corruption and scandal). Actually there is only one answer to a problem that is so big yet can't be seen or proven. And that is a God who is so big yet can't be seen or proven. God bless.
I believe global warming is a naturally occurring phenomenom, a cycle that is eratic yet balanced. The geological record of our planet has no mean temperature. There is no environmental blueprint to adhere to, it is in constant flux. Im not a nay sayer, i realise cfcs and other air pollution is not good for us or the world, the waters are polluted and too many trees are felled. However it is a self correcting system with or withot us and thats the issue mans survival.... if its our time so be it
The lake scenarios is missing the people who would stand in front of that lake & somehow NOT observe the problem, then challenge any costs to fix a problem they refuse to see. They resist GW as an excuse to enact laws that gradually restrict freedoms & impose harsh restrictions on your way of life (without REAL evidence). However...impeding stem-cell research or gay-marriage? No problem trampling on THOSE freedoms without any "real"evidence...Hell really is the impossibility of reason.
Now, I may be wrong and offensive, but if this is all God punishing us for our sins, I think we should just RESIST it. We'll start to worry if we see plagues and locusts later. We should just resist the punishment, since trying to maintain our species is more logical than just rolling over passively. A variation of wonderingmind42's argument: if you're about to get the death sentence, you wouldn't just sit there and let the Judge/Jury convict you. You would do something about it.
Global warming is a hoax. There is so much evidence now that refutes it. It is a lost cause. Mr. Wonderingmind computer geek never considered the possibility that it could just be for financial gain and that the earth's climate is always changing because of the sun. The carboniferous period of Earth's history had 500 times more CO2 in the atmosphere and life was sustained while the temperature was much hotter. Do your research instead of listening to this freak.
Deadly poisons and ways to feed them to man. I did not come up with that. And nor are those chemicals being put in our regular house hold water utility a willingly knowing by by a simple Joe or Jane like me. I was not in a lab figuring out a way to use Corexit for an oil spill, so I can watch 300 or men or so die from it on a BP oil rig, in that spill. I am not the one sticking Fluoride into a water supply.
Me' I am a Christian, but I never come to a conclusion nor would I push anything that I thought was a conclusion onto anyone else. Meaning: I am in a continual growth.
Your in summation is always proposed as fact with very little mystery. Where that is real scary. Myself I am a person who studies political science, but I have a love for all science of man. Simple man like me doesn't come up with these dispersants or harsh chemicals to put into the water. So your conclusion is non sequitur.
It would be about right to see a man who has come to a conclusion on something but still calls himself a scientist. As Einstein did say basically 'the mystery in discovery is always the source of science' meaning there is a never a conclusion in science. See it is only fitting that a man who studies his own hypocrisy now talks about another thing that he has no facts on: but has an opinion on God. It is funny that your reasoning always ends at some conclusion. That is not science.
Also put the Urim and the Thummim in the breastpiece, so they may be over Aaron's heart whenever he enters the presence of the LORD. Thus Aaron will always bear the means of making decisions for the Israelites over his heart before the LORD.
its a cause and effect thing. it is not God's will that mankind suffers, however he gave men free will.
" 3 This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4 who would have all men to be saved, and come to the knowledge of the truth. " 1 Timothy 2:3,4
IF God is real, and IF this is his Will, THEN could we stop it? But the question is, Is THIS God's Will?
If you are of the Judeo-Christian belief, then you will agree that the Bible says "Let us make man in our image,.... and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
God told us to take care of it regardless of His Will, that's our job.
@WeaklyAnimated Great point, but not only that, the Bible says that God gave us rule over nature. Just because your parents give you the keys to the house for their weekend vacation doesn't mean you can have a huge party and wreck the place. Just because a friend lends you their car and says "take care of it" doesn't mean you can run it into a telephone pole. We were given the task to protect nature. I think God's will was that we protect it.
@WeaklyAnimated Also, what if our positive action against global climate destabilization IS God's will? O.o What if he caused our actions to do this so that we can learn to fix it or suffer his wrath, and that learning to fix it was his purpose in letting it happen? Like letting a kid fall down so he can learn to get back up... Think about it...
@WeaklyAnimated Even though I find the concept of the belief in a "God" to be irrational, I agree that it is our duty as intelligent sentient beings to take care of this planet and all the other lifeforms on it and to expand our knowledge and power and colonize other worlds to spread life and become the Guardians of the Universe.
It doesn't hurt to try, because if there is a will, there is a way. If the problem is outside of our ability and we do take action anyways, then at least we tried. However, the probability of the global crisis being caused by us humans is along the lines of 99.9999999%
@WeaklyAnimated NICE TRY, BUT NO COCONUT!! YOUR ONLY CORRECT TO THE POINT OF MAN BEING GIVEN CHARGE PRIOR TO SATAN TRICKING HIM OUT OF IT!! NOW THE PLANET IS SATAN'S FOR THE TIME BEING..THIS IS WHY IT'S IN THE MESS IT'S IN..
at the time of the flood according to science adn history the atmosphere was decreased if i remember correctly down to 30% from its original form. i ask myself your ? and my answer is humans can only control something thats in there reach and weaker. does the universe affect our climate? humans dont control the universe.i feel its partly God's will before it becomes something bad and unexplainable, after that its all humans and there afilliattes
Why is this still even a debate? The logic makes sense, the fact that the scientist (vast majority are saying this), what more do people need? Sad that these people need to be kicked in the balls before they realise, and then they complain. Also why would God do this? Our Sins? IF he exists I am sure he could come up with a bit of a better punishment. Too many stupid people in the world.
the role of the water quality expert has been usurped by the ideologues posing as scientists - omitting data as needed to get to the conclusion they were always after. This was not isolated and required the suspension of disbelieve at many levels by "scientists" who otherwise had required concurrence. What most of us really want is the scientists to be OBJECTIVE and non-political and for the politicians to stop promoting the pseudo-science.
PEOPLE i dont think your getting this guys point, Even if its not us that is doing this somthing still has to be done or attempted so we my live such a thing. and even if it doesint help and GW still distroys most of us... ask yourself this. do you want to survive? the choice is yours.
@sporeisGOD1 i dont think thats his point he seems smart and knows a man can not do anything really to stop God i mean i think satan would have dont u
If climate change is being caused by human activity then why are temps on other planets in our solar system also changing ? Do people like yourself even consider that something other than humans could be the cause like I duno the SUN ? Thats why I love global warming people like yourself because u act like global climate regulations are the only thing that will stop GW but u fail to ask the simple question what if human actions are not the cause?
@staytheknight I too believe mankind will be judged for our sins, but I ask you to consider one thing in this. When the day comes for the world to be remade as He sees fit we will not be able to stop it (God is all powerful) & since money is no longer of value to anyone at that point expending any amount of resources to try won't really hurt the process or aftermath. So whenever we face a situation that may be the end why not try our best to stop it & greet God when we can't?
@MrJordanStanford First I want to apologize for the delay in my reply. From what I read in Scripture I find two reasons. The 1st it is the Christian's command to " 'Go, therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit.' " It is the Christian's duty first and foremost to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Jesus paid a high price for the redemption of humanity, and it's the church's duty to expand the family of God.
And secondly, because it is already written. Psalm 119:89 says "Forever, O Lord Your word is settled in heaven." And in the Olivet discourse found in Matt 24, Mark13, and Luke 21. In all of them Jesus speaks of famines, pestilences, and earthquakes. And there are many other places where signs of the end are spoken of. I understand that it is also the job of the Christian to be a good steward of God's creation, we also have to keep in my though that these things must happen.
@staytheknight Can we not be good stewards of God's creation, spread his word, love our fellow man to show that God loves us all, and in the process try to stop these issues? My whole stance on this is that if we as human beings are causing these problems we will make the world a terrible place to live by doing nothing, but if these occurrences are the end of the world directed by God we won't be able to stop them from happening, but still can achieve all of these other goals while trying.
We as Christians need to be careful with what kind of help we offer to our fellow man. Sending food and seeds, building water delivery systems, offering medical aid to famine destroyed countries, and things like that. I 100% agree with you. There is nothing more Christian than that. But when you get into regulations and policy related "help" then we would be doing more harm than good.
And here's why. With regulations, how far do we take them? Do we ban all private ownership of vehicles? Do we force people into vegetarian life styles? Do we enforce global population control? If so how? Do we sterilize people? Force abortions? If so how do you determine who? and by what standards do you use? These are drastic examples, but not ones that haven't been used before (Nazi Germany, even in the US in the 1920's! Look up eugenics)
I think the best way is by educating people about cause and effect so that they can make wise choices about how you go about living your life. You dont have to have 10 children to live a good life, you dont need a big gas guzzling SUV to get around, you dont have to fly on holiday across the whole globe 3 times a year, consider moving closer to work, etc, etc. Make wise decisions and it all adds up to a better world, believe me.
The Bible says that God gave Adam a control over the earth, and when Adam sinned since he(Adam) was in control of the ground God had to curse the ground for Adam's sin (see Genesis 3:17-19, and Romans 8:19-22) And since the world is sinful, we (Humanity and the creation) have to die (see Romans 5.) But at the end the earth and those who accept the Jesus will be made new(see Revelation 21.) So in conclusion these things must take place, and it's not done out of a wrathful God, but sinful man.
I like your open mind and the way you ask questions to gain wisdom and knowledge. It's something people should always do instead of jump to swearing bad words or sitting there being stubborn.
You know nothing about the subject but people talk about it so you produce a video dealing with it?
In trying to figure out what may or may not be God's will you talk to people who also don't know, are not qualified to even guess, and are probably extremely poor representatives of God cherry picked by you to give your position more credence.
Like the 'dumb Americans' videos, it's just too easy.
@AshtonPhoto As an expert on the discussed subject, I agree with the position he takes. I will also like to add that your comment contributes to my logical conclusion that he's smarter than you'll ever be.
An ad hominem jibe is the very first thing you have to say as an 'expert on the discussed subject'??
I credit Greg with commendable reasoning, I just believe he's wrong. He prefaced his arguments by saying he knew "very little" about the topic but drew firm conclusions anyway. So much for logic.
Smart people --"scientists"-- in the 1970s thought we were doomed as well, by an ice age. They were as convinced as you apparently are now but were totally wrong.
@AshtonPhoto No, the very first thing I said was that I agreed with his position. Why do I get the feeling you're having trouble reading simple sentences? Earth to Nigel...'We want our wacky photographer back!'
But may I ask your qualifications to be considered an expert? Are you a climatologist? If so have you published any research that I could peruse? I'm not being facetious either.
I really do want to understand all of this, but let me state again, I'm old enough to remember being told about our impending icy fate by people much brighter than I. Here we are just a few years later and we're being told the exact opposite.
@AshtonPhoto If you believe in a personal god you're already well on your way to believing without evidence. Anyways, we can't be sure yet, but if the Namoc (North Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation) which includes the Gulf Stream is disrupted and loses it's strength like it did during the Younger Dryas, it will carry less heat thanks to global warming and the meltdown of Arctic Ice. Northern Europe will experience a drop in temperature, making winter much harsher.
@AshtonPhoto Science progresses along with all things. If you were in the military would you want to use tactics and training from the 1970's, or now?
I agree in principle, but scientists tend to make definitive statements only to later disavow, alter or outright contradict those statements. And everyone just forgets.
As I said, in the 70s it was an ice age.
Then we were all doomed from the impending "population explosion".
After that, we were all going to die from nuclear war.
Then AIDS.
Currently it's 'global warming'.
Who knows what it'll be next.
Sorry to sound dismissive, but I'm seeing a pattern here...
@AshtonPhoto You proved my point. All of those things have changed because the evidence involved has changed too. HIV used to be a death sentence, now you can live a long and fulfilling life with HIV. The population explosion did (is) happen, it just wasnt gloom and doom, the author admits this. Again, all based on facts and evidence at the time. So you see a pattern that scientists change their predictions and theories based on evidence? Give this man a nobel prize!
The 'population explosion' did not happen, and is not happening. The 'evidence' was false and the science was specious. I read the newspapers and the reports myself.
HIV kills 10k per annum in the US alone. A death sentence for many it still is.
Scientists were CERTAIN about global cooling. The evidence was conclusive.
No reasonable person could oppose the fact that we were heading to an ice age.
@AshtonPhoto "Scientists" (read: Media) were certain it was happening. The community was calling for more research (nature volume 270 Dec 22-29 ). Lifespan with HIV has increased from 7 years to 24 years today (CDC). A death sentence for those who cant afford the medication perhaps (but a long fulfilling life can be had otherwise), but thats barking up a different tree. So your point is that people (Scientists too I imagine) can be wrong? There is always a measure of doubt, thats the point.
The environmentalist message is "humans are killing the planet".
The main culprits are evil and corrupt corporations and nefarious government agencies (as well as dangerous religious fundamentalists) who are conspiring to destroy the delicate ecological balance of the planet.
You're not entitled to your opinion, you must agree that we're raping the planet or you're subject to hateful contempt. Just read some of the vile comments on this video.
God said, No one knows when it's all going to happen, so why try to push his hand. he said to take care of the earth and befruitful in Genesis. Judoyadon is just as ignorant as some of these "christian" who say things with out really knowing.
Christianity is a mental disorder. It has retarded the advancement of humankind since its inception and should be discarded to the heap of other failed mythologies as quickly as possible.
@judoyodan definitely , its unfortunate because we're at a point in time when action MAY save us but people operating under the delusion of the celestial safety greatly outnumber us who live in reality , its pretty tragic
@IGNsucks Well he's the one putting this forward in the first place, there are so many variables to what is going on and his model to find a solution, when extended far enough to account for all known or calculatable variables, doesn't tell us anything we don't already know. I thought that was obvious?
I think it's hard to find to many "religious" people who would believe that a person polluting the environment is god's will. The fundamental problem that I have with people who push "environmental" issues today is that they have nothing to do with the environment and they are simply a power grab. I agree, man polluting the river should be stopped, god calls us to be stewards right? I don't think the problem can be solved by giving money to the UN or any corrupt gov org for that matter.
YOU ARE VERY FUNNY AND MADE ME LAUGH A LOT...BUT BOTTOM LINES ARE BOTTOM LINES.. YOU HAVE CHOOSEN TO DEFEND THE PLANET AND COVER YOUR BACKSIDE IN CASE IT'S ALL TRUE.. REALLY FUNNY STUFF THOUGH..KEEP UP THE HUMOR AND VENTURE FORTH WITHOUT ANY DEGREE OF FAITH IN GOD IF YOU STUBBORNLY WISH TO..I WISH YOU EVERY GOOD THING.... I LOVE COMEDY.
DEMONSTOPPER 1 week ago
I think your friend's view about faith and God's will is distorted. Suppose she is right about God's Will. Prayer alone will not fix any problem, no matter how trivial or "big". God commanded Solomon and his army to pray for victory in battle over there enemies in the creation of their kingdom. But they still had to get up and go fight the battles. Apply this to climate destabilization and the conclusion is inescapable. Pray. But do as well. And we can achieve anything.
chipstack1980 3 weeks ago
I wouldnt go that far to save the fish. i live by a saying "just lay down and die"
GraffBONE123 1 month ago
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Climate news..
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Assessing climate change in a drought-stricken state
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Scientists hedge, particularly when it comes to the drought, because they are reluctant to pin any single weather event on climate change. They point to La Niña, an intermittent Pacific Ocean phenomenon that affects storms, as the immediate cause.
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Texas Tribune, Texas
26 August 2011
Nightversionn 1 month ago
I'd make the argument that there are BILLIONS of cars on this planet and that our cumulative usage of them is beginning to have a cumulative effect on the environment, and then ask them how that's hard to comprehend. Like you said, there is no way to draw a magical line that halts our reach. As we've found, due to technology, our reach essentially knows no bounds.
SoCalAries 2 months ago
I think Gods will is beyond human understanding. And you should too, if You respected people's beliefs.o say that Gods will does not come into account in this matter to a person of belief is a blasphemy.
darkhairedguy 2 months ago
@darkhairedguy how do you know it's blasphemy? how do you know god HAS a will? how do you know there IS a god? how do you know it's beyond our understanding? you're just guessing. you're just hoping. there's no reason to believe in any of that, and therefore we dont consider it. it's POSSIBLE that it exists, but again there is NO reason to believe it because there is NO evidence.
SoCalAries 2 months ago
Bringing people's beliefs into it is another foolish move.
Tell me which CO2 molecule in the atmosphere comes from humans and which comes from the gils of a fish. And then tell me which one of these is beneficial for plant growth on land, phytoplankton production in the seas.
Now, tell the fish to stop breathing. Or the bacteria to stop emitting CO2. Or the volcanos to hold it for a while and wait. After all, they're causing 97% of the CO2 emissions, as opposed to a mere 3% for us humans.
darkhairedguy 2 months ago
@darkhairedguy Get yourself a science degree and discover what 3% more than equilibrium saturation will do
MrkBO8 3 weeks ago
Hypothetically, if you scaled up the water tester, who knew for SURE if the water was fine or not, then the scientists in aspect to the global warming issue would have to have no doubt that it is occurring in order for the fish-water tester analogy to apply.
kingofspeed46 3 months ago
Human beings are self destructive. I mean if it's not one thing it's another. The majority of religious folk I've met want to lean on Gods coming as a way to get out of reality. It's easy to lean on, oh trust me, but when you sit down and lay the facts vs. the faith it's pretty much a horror story being played out. I just hate the two extremes of faith vs fact. Ignorance is bliss for some folk.
CharChoalify 4 months ago
The guy's a genius. Obviously.
CHIPSTERO7 4 months ago
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@ManardGCrebs
HA HA.. it looks as though you are first for the personal attack in regards to my intelligence and understanding. There is no design... truth stands apart from what we think or believe which is exactly why all religions that revolve around an assumption of God are dividing or dwindling. The more we progress as humans the more we realize that we have to have faith in ourselves and work as a team if we are going to survive. We cannot know what created us. Let us move forward
Adamjs1985 4 months ago
@ManardGCrebs
HA HA.. it looks as though you are first for the personal attack in regards to my intelligence and understanding. There is no design... truth stands apart from what we think or believe which is exactly why all religions that revolve around an assumption of God are dividing or dwindling. The more we progress as humans the more we realize that we have to have faith in ourselves and work as a team if we are going to survive. We cannot know what created us.. let us move forward
Adamjs1985 4 months ago
@ManardGCrebs
It's not God's punishment, humans are ruining the habitation of this planet, so humans can fix it, or at least reduce our negative affect. We cannot know what God wants of us, and saying he does (even from the bible) is blasphomous, because we cannot know our creator truly.. and our concept of God is merely a delusion of what we want him to be, and the very moment we try to assume anything about God, it's wrong. Especially the holy bible, and other allegorical books...
Adamjs1985 4 months ago
Christians must think climate change is from god because of Revelations. They must think the world will end terribly-because of god.
Jeffersonwazright 4 months ago
Geoengineering is the most logical course of action. Assuming the current scoop on global warming is true, you could think of it this way; there are a great number of diseases out there that we can avoid, its easy to avoid them if we take some 'easy' precautions (STD/Is for example) however we don't avoid them because these 'easy' precautions don't fit in with our lifestyle, even though we would rather not catch the disease. So we invented a cure.... Geoengineering is the cure.
vanRijn64 4 months ago
Good gad this guy is such a condescending prick lol. Get over yourself already lol
ElProximo 5 months ago
@ElProximo - All I see here is logical thinking and practical deduction. Please explain the condescension. I seem to be blind to it and want to be aware.
seeker267 5 months ago
@seeker267 Yeah I bet you do lol.
ElProximo 5 months ago
@ElProximo - I really do... Is it hard to believe that there are people out there willing to learn from others? If you truly see condescension please point it out so I can be aware the next time I'm faced with it.
I would really like to know. No sarcasm.
seeker267 5 months ago
it is man falt why this happening but is allso god judgement onnman for there sinfull hearts rhe only thing u can save is your on future life but whats coming can not be changed see whats comeing is what god said would come he dont want us to sop it he just wantsus to exept jesus and be saved so when the end comes we will be with him for all enterity see poeple got to realize that our future is are we going to be with jesus or hell get to know god soyou can be ready to meet him when he comes..
67aceman 5 months ago
it is man falt why this happening but is allso god judgement onnman for there sinfull hearts rhe only thing u can save is your on future life but whats coming can not be changed see whats comeing is what god said would come he dont want us to sop it he just wantsus to exept jesus and be saved so when the end comes we will be with him for all enterity
67aceman 5 months ago
it is man falt why this happening but is allso god judgement onnman for there sinfull hearts rhe only thing u can save is your on future life but whats coming can not be changed
67aceman 5 months ago
YEAH SURE! It could be humans that causing the global climate change. But if God allows it, then it is still according to the will of God for us to experience the change which we ourselves may have caused. So we can see how poluted or corrupted we are and only know how to destroy... being greedy and self-proud of something that isn't to be proud of.
Either we seek God and a life with God or we shall be left out without God in this life and the next. God's will is for us to seek God's salvation.
VadimCool 6 months ago
my point of view is this: God is WHAT created us, but what was that? big bang? Noooooo! I believe that if we live in a world, that lives in a galaxy, that lives in a universe, this universe lives in some kind of enormouse place wich contains millions and millions of universes, we will never see the limits of the universe, because it has not, they say its expanding but there are a lot of posibles xplinations that we dont know for that. God is that, the father of the universeS
serjito87 6 months ago
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i like the venus project's approach on this. google it
FundiNation 6 months ago
@tommygun649 "The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God's will, and actually fulfill God's will, and not let God's word be desecrated. For God's will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord's creation, the divine will." -Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Ralph Manheim, ed., New York: Mariner Books, 1999, p. 562.
northoforacle 6 months ago
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@northoforacle i like the venus project's approach on this. google it
FundiNation 6 months ago
maybe it's GOD's will... AND our impact! It could be these two ideas do not contradict one another. Maybe it's GOD's will that we clean our shit up! Remember when you were a kid and you had to clean up your room? Well, the earth is the only place in the universe where these bodies work and this is the house we all live in... Maybe the only thing GOD is ever asking us to do is take responsibility for our selves (SELF {I AM}) and realize that we are the ones creating the world we live in....
polderwyn 6 months ago
OMG, this guy is hilarious...Let's take the "known" (i.e. pollution in a river) and expand it to the "unknown"!!!
As Stephen Hawking believes there is no god...But things do exist that we don't understand yet. Why try to affect things before we understand them?!?!?
Remember, statistical correlation does NOT mean causation!!!
ajmo7298 6 months ago
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eat well excersize,,, die anyway,,,
spend tons of money on idiotic social issues,,, die anyway,,,
Sun remains a main sequence star, continually growing warmer and brighter by ~10% every 1 billion years.
no matter what you do,,, the sun will GET you in the end,,,
unless you LEAVE,,, that is where mankind needs to spend its money,,,
on LEAVING,,,
lars008 7 months ago
So you see the end of days is a problem - Jesus only meant that when his age - Pieces - you know, the jesus fish; it's a astrological representation and nothing else. Jesus said you'd ender the halls and at the end you'll find a man bearing a cask of water - a clear reference to another astrological: Aquarius. It's also why Moses got SO pissed to find his people worshiping a golden cow; a symbology of the old age - taurus, when Moses was there to issue in the age of Pieces. Yet more astrology.
Xeletoph 7 months ago
There is a problem with the concept of Armageddon, that being it should not occur. At least not according to the bible. You see, with Jesus' sacrifice, god's wrath was supposed to be sated. Man's sin was atoned for. This means that final judgement should only not occur, but the concept OF Armageddon at all is a massive misunderstanding. Because you see when J's disc's asked where to find him 'at the end of days', the word was a mistranslation it was 'the end of the AGE' - the dawn of Aquarius.
Xeletoph 7 months ago
Since there is no chapter in the Bible devoted to the issue of Global Climate Change complete with 30+ years of peer-reviewed research, I think we shouldn't look towards it for answers, at least for this problem.
To put it into perspective, trying to fix Global Climate Change with your Bible is sort of like trying to fix your iPad by reading the owner's manual for your Lexus.
xKlondikex 7 months ago
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THE LORD IS NOT SLACK CONCERNING HIS PROMISE , AS SOME COUNT SLACKNESS , BUT IS LONGSUFFERING TOWARD US , NOT WILLING THAT ANY SHOULD PERISH BUT THAT ALL SHOULD COME TO REPENTANCE . 2 PETER 2 3:9 . JESUS CHRIST IS THE ANSWER , SEEK HIM NOW AND HE WILL SAVE YOU FROM THE WRATH TO COME .
armyofchrist100 8 months ago
This will all end when Israel is encompassed by nations for battle, Foretold thousands of years ago in the bible and stop going on about Gods will. This is all mans will that got us to this stage, eventually Gods going to stop it. This information is free!
Romerosays 8 months ago
@Romerosays free information is not necessarily "corect" information.
take your bible thumping fear mongering and shove it.
Ihatemelee 8 months ago
@Ihatemelee Dude! your up me when your armed with only part of the info. There's good news coming from all this! The world's not coming to a end, it's this bullshit man made system thats going to end. Israel's war with it's surrounding nations will be the final war, it will bring the return of the Messiah, who will bring peace to the world! Your right, free information is not always "correct" but as least I'm not trying to sell you a dvd! Watch Israel, it's getting close!
Romerosays 8 months ago
@Romerosays yeah yeah yeah, i used to be sucked into all that crap too because i was indoctranated from birth with no real choice of my own, those crazies over there have fought as long as anyone can rember over bs from ancient texts about dirt and birthrights because there crap holy books tell them too.
there is no need for a messiah. there is no need to worship the god of abraham because in all likelyhood it doesnt exist anyway. the sooner everyone realizes that the better.
Ihatemelee 8 months ago
@Ihatemelee Just because they fed you the bullshit version doesn't mean the real truth surrounding it doesn't exist! If I was taught what they taught you, I'd be saying and feeling the exact same thing, no doubt about it. Your experience doesn't disproved the authenticity of the scriptures or its message. I was not indoctrinated as a child, but searched it out as an adult, after many years of study and sorting out the man-made dodgy doctrines, I had come to the conclusion it was all to ..cont
Romerosays 8 months ago
@Ihatemeleereal to deny. I know your saying, yeah, yeah, yeah again, but if you knew what I know, you would believe, and know that what was prophesied is now starting to fall into play. As for, no need for a Messiah, it couldn't be any further from the truth. Our world is in big trouble, nations are collapsing like domino's, the uprising in the middle east is such as never seen before...cont
Romerosays 8 months ago
@Ihatemelee The planet is financially broke, immorally destitute and environmentally stuffed, and man has shit in his nest one to-many times. The only one who has the credentials and power to fix it, is Christ. Soon everyone will realise it!
Romerosays 8 months ago
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@Romerosays if i knew what you knew huh? what would that be exactly? i'm willing to bet that i know more about it than you. and you want to know what i know? you have no proof to back up the proflagate truth claims of your faith, therfore you don't "know" anything.
you just have faith claims that can be proven wrong as soon as you open your mouth.
so to get around the cognative disonance they produce, you change your stance or run around saying a whole lot, of nothing.
Ihatemelee 8 months ago
@Ihatemelee Dude I got history on my side, backed up by logic and common sense with the proven authenticity of scripture. So far you just got a big mouth that spews forth vindictiveness, and now you want to defend your self rejected brand of faith (guessing soured J W) and compare it up against mine. Sounds like you got your own dissonance to deal with, so don't vent your anger on me. If you want to learn anything, then be nice! Believe it or not, I actually felt sorry for you.
Romerosays 8 months ago
@Romerosays you missed this part:
"you just have faith claims that can be proven wrong as soon as you open your mouth.
so to get around the cognative disonance they produce, you change your stance or run around saying a whole lot, of nothing."
wheres your proof? wheres your logic? where is your authenticity? saying it and having it are 2 completely diferant things. or as I first wrote " free information is not necessarily "corect" information."
Back it up if your so sure.
Ihatemelee 8 months ago
@Ihatemelee You want prove of the real God, then look to Jews for your answers. In case you didn't know, they are the smartest (more nobel prize winners), wealthiest, talented and gifted people on the planet, while your ancestors where throwing rocks at one another, the Jews were being educated. No nation on earth has endured what they have been through, they have been hunted down, massacred and scatted all over the world, many have tried to eradicate them from the face of the planet,..cont
Romerosays 8 months ago
@Ihatemelee yet they won't go away, only to return back into their land (remember 1948), another prophecy fulfilled. It is because God said concerning Israel, "I WILL MAKE A FULL END OF THEE" If you want to disprove God and the scriptures to me, then destroy Israel. Please don't tell me I guessed JW right!
Romerosays 8 months ago
@Romerosays thats not significant proof because the proficy is to vague, like all past atributed proficies usualy are. so you need somthing better. aas far as JW, jehovas witness i guess? no, i was never afiliated with that cult of moron lol. i was non-denom i researched apologetics for fun, then i found that every defence for christianity i found there was a counter arguement for, something i haddent been studying because i saw no need, when i looked at both sides, i realized i was wrong.
Ihatemelee 8 months ago
@Ihatemelee You are misleading yourself! There is nothing vague about prophesies when it comes to Israel, (two hundred years ago, people have known Israel's return under the aid of the British) the prognosticate surrounding the Jews is quite clear and is beyond question. The nation's antecedents to this day, cannot be explained on ordinary assertions, they are unique and stand alone! Even Mark Twain ( like many others) took notice of them, he said, cont....
Romerosays 7 months ago
@Ihatemelee quote, "his contributions to the worlds list of great names in literature, science, art, music, finance, medicine, and abstruse learning are also away out of his proportion to the weakness of his numbers. He has made a marvellous fight in this world, in all the ages; and has done it with his hands tied behind him." There is but only one logical explanation for their brilliant erudition and existence, God! There is nothing vague about, " I WILL MAKE A FULL END OF THEE! "
Romerosays 7 months ago
@Romerosays Mark twain was atheist and was commenting in that quote that the jewish race seems almost immortal in as much as they have been able to stick around a long time. atributing there desire to go back to that land after the fact is still vague atribtations and not real hard proof of proficy. Oh and way to misquote jeremiah 30:11 and try to turn it into a theat. /golfclap at you sir. You have a bit of froth at the corners of your mouth.
Ihatemelee 7 months ago
@Ihatemelee Who cares about him being an atheist, he could of been an axe murderer for all I care! Its about his and others acknowledgement of what people visually discern of this particular nation! The Jews are strikingly unique, this is the point I'm driving at! As for Jeremiah 30, wasn't quoting from it ( since you mentioned it, read from v 3 on), I was merely stating a common parlance or idiomatic which best sums up the hundreds of scriptural prophecies surrounding Israel's future. cont...
Romerosays 7 months ago
@Ihatemelee Yourself being an ex-believer, I assumed you got the general notion of it. When I quote scripture, I always give reference, sorry for being misleading! As for frothing at the corners of my mouth, can't see any happening at this stage. Your gonna have to go harder!
Romerosays 7 months ago
i dont believe in god cause a thing called science
MrChrisThePianoMan 8 months ago
@MrChrisThePianoMan Yeah! well I believe in both! work that one out!
Romerosays 8 months ago
Not much about the Will of God ? ? Will is the wife of God. Like dark matter is to the material universe. Kinda big. Kinda powerful.
3877michael 9 months ago
God has no will
MrNomatrix 9 months ago
FUCK GOD
hazza1o1 9 months ago
Where you stand on this subject is truly up to the individual. Whether you believe that God is destroying the Earth, or that humankind is doing all the work, is up to you and no one else. This is an argument that cannot be won for either side. Decide for yourself, do the research, and look at it from both sides of view. The scientist view, and the believers in God's view, and from there, make your own choice on the matter.
KeithShap 9 months ago
how can we truly find the answer with a little more than 6000 years of recorded history? we simply do not have enough record to know if this is a long drawn out natural climate change. if the stories of the tropical era, in which dinosaurs lived, is true then followed by an ice age. whats to say that we couldn't be heading back into a tropical era?
courtneybelcher 9 months ago
@courtneybelcher Scientists do not reach conclusions based on recorded history. Text in ancient books is just text in ancient books.
Besides, 6000 years is just a microscopic fraction of how far scientists have been able to see into the past. In other words, for exemple, the Earth is 4.54 billion years old, and 6000 years is roughly 0.000000013% of the Earth's age.
skaruts 9 months ago
20 yrs from now global warming will b a joke
PInk77W1 9 months ago
A very good argument AGAINST the existance of god is this: He has allowed humans to argue and even war over his existance and what his will is. He knows that there are many different religions each of which thinks their followers are the only ones who will get into heaven, and he watches all this and is willing to condemn anyone to hell who gets it wrong, like the south park episode where a bunch of religious people went to hell and were told by the devil that mormons were the correct religion.
Zurround100 9 months ago
@Zurround100 Good point! But fortunately God's given us a free will to chose, along with instructions on how to live and treat our fellow man. Our governments give us rules and we argue and war over them to, just look at the uprising going on in the middle east at this very moment. This doesn't prove that governments don't exist any more than it disproves God's existence. Unfortunately most people haven't even come close to hearing the truth concerning God's word, cont....
Romerosays 8 months ago
@Zurround100 for example: Did you know that nobody goes to heaven, God promised it to no one. The phrase immortal soul and the words rapture and trinity are not found in the bible, yet "Christians" believe in it. Even the common understanding of Hell and the Devil are totally false. These and many more have brainwashed people for centuries. The biggest misconception of all, is that all roads lead to God, yet the bible teaches ONE God, ONE hope, ONE baptism, ONE gospel, ONE faith our cont....
Romerosays 8 months ago
@Romerosays im sorry, but this is the most pathetic argument against Christianity and the Bible. Any Atheist that actually studied the Bible would laugh at you.
WooSukSuks 6 months ago
@WooSukSuks Don't be sorry, but be enlightened! This is not against Christianity, but against the lies surrounding it! Since when did Atheist's study the bible?
Romerosays 6 months ago
@Romerosays actually a lot of athiests, or i should say, a lot of people in general, study the Bible because it's very interesting. and i only believe that these "lies surrounding it" are the false interpretations and teachings that are taught over time, or beliefs of "christians" that claim they are christian, but really don't study the scriptures. because if you meant "the lies surrounding it" as the bible itself containing lies, that would be arguable, with no accurate answer to that claim.
WooSukSuks 6 months ago
@WooSukSuks All the atheist I know don't know the front cover from the back, but I'm with you here! I was talking about its doctrinal interpretations which has lead and fuelled the way to scepticism.
Romerosays 6 months ago
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@WooSukSuksi like the venus project's approach on this. google it
FundiNation 6 months ago
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@Romerosays i like the venus project's approach on this. google it
FundiNation 6 months ago
@WooSukSuks i like the venus project's approach on this. google it
FundiNation 6 months ago
@Zurround100 calling and ONE Lord and saviour, The man Jesus the Christ. The bible message is simple, yet man in all his great pride manages to even stuff that up. The bible teaches " he that believes the gospel and is baptised shall be saved, he that believes it not is condemned." See, simple. Find out what the real ONE gospel is and your halfway there! Hope this is food for thought. P.S. Missed that south park episode, bummer!
Romerosays 8 months ago
Yes, but I never said, nor the Bible, as to whom the blame, persay, lands on. God only showed the end of the world to on person, and all he did was write about it. The quote "you rep what you sow" comes to mind. We could have changed our fate, thus the wonders of free will. Yet, God knew we wouldn't, and won't.
KeithShap 10 months ago
GOD is an idea formed by the people to form the people. If everyone belived in one religion one god we would have "A whole". It's a BRILLIANT IDEA think of all the things we could do with universal cooperation. A damn shame that there can be only one. Chew on that for a minute.
SodaKing23 10 months ago
@SodaKing23 Government is a idea formed by the people to form the people. If everyone believed in one system one ruler we would have " A kingdom " Guess what? This eventually is going to be a reality!
Romerosays 8 months ago
GOD is an Idea formed from the people to form the people. If everyone believed in one thing we would all be "a whole". Why do you think churches exist? Chew on that for a minute.
SodaKing23 10 months ago
God's will is free. Look! The universe proves it and humans such as Isaac Newton or Aristotle have shown that things aren't always what you think. The Catholic Church didn't accept a spherical Earth until the year 1992. Are the leaders today any different? Yes, but we have many NEW things to UNVEIL. Just look into space, imagine being out in space - nothing stopping you from maintaining a new free floating direction that will NEVER stop until it is changed (reborn). Human nature dislikes change.
CodyBlevins6 10 months ago
it changes when it goes from harming such small things as fish to harming humans and also the earth itself.
earthquakes may not be directly related to climate change, but the recent events in japan have shifted the earth's axis and rate of rotation. this could affect weather and climate.
i would also like to point out that we are seeing and likely will continue to see events that are referenced (however indirectly) at various spots in the Bible (obviously finished over 1000 years ago).
1m34b5m78 10 months ago
God knows and controls all. He knows what i was going to type this very second before i ever typed it.
I want to pose a greater question to all of those who believe in science over God.. where did life come from? science has not, and never will pose a logical answer for this. Faith can and has done so already. :)
D1Champ08 10 months ago
@D1Champ08 Give it up man, why put all your hopes in a 3500 year old book? and instead take action for your own will. And another thing where was your "God" just recently hmm? Some one has wrote the bible believe me god didnt write it.
TheN00b1n470r 10 months ago
@D1Champ08 Faith is not logical.
"God knows and controls all. He knows what i was going to type this very second before i ever typed it". Agreed.
Why would an all knowing God, put humans on this earth as a test of faith? Why would God not stop Eve from eating the apple? He knew she was going to do it before it even happened. Don't pull out your free-will bullshit.....thats like me pushing you over a cliff and then sayin, you have free will, save yourself.
Moron.
Haseeebo 10 months ago
@Haseeebo Were does it say apple? You and millions like you, only have an idea what the scriptures teach, and it's usually false!
Romerosays 7 months ago
@Romerosays holy shit forbidden fruit, sue me for stating something that makes absolutely no difference. Apple, orange, banana or w/e the f*ck it is has absolutely no bearing on the fact that God's omniscience and omnipotence would have been able to save all of humanity, but he didnt. Why? Because he has a hard-on for punishing people for something they cannot be held accountable for.
People like you have no argument, so you don't address the point.
Nice Job replying to 2mnth old comment..
Haseeebo 7 months ago
@Haseeebo Um...Doesn't say forbidden fruit either! On the contrary, it does make a difference. Your argument will hold more weight if you get your facts right. Didn't know God had a willy, thanks for that insight! As for being held accountable, tell the law that same excuse next time they bust our arse. You shouldn't take the piss at me just because I'm slow at typing....two month old comment...go easy why don't ya!
Romerosays 7 months ago
@D1Champ08 Actualy faith has only gave you an assumption, while science gave the best explanation that they possibly could so far, based on more study and testing than you'll ever see or do in your whole life. If you can't see the diference in that, I wander what will you ever see...
Besides, if god knows all and controls all, then you're a masochist for worshiping such a cruel thing despite what it's doing.
I just hope scientists are wrong and you never have to feel sorry for yourself someday.
skaruts 9 months ago
you are amazing, i love how unbiased you are!
TheFaceOfJohnPants 10 months ago
You have a good point, but to answer your question as to when it changes from human to God's will. It all comes down to faith, and if you believe what you read in The Bible to be true or not. My opinion? God's will. Revelations speaks of a time of great weather based disasters. I believe that time is now. God knew our failure would come to pass, and this is the price. I pray for all of you, lost and saved. May God keep watch, and let mercy prevail. For we may need it soon.
KeithShap 1 year ago
@KeithShap Does that really mean that god wants you to stay still and watch the sky fall over you? Wouldn't god probably wanted you to stand up for the challanges in your life? Wouldn't god wanted your life to have some meaning for humanity?
I believed in god until I was around 10 or 12. Up until then I always though god wanted me to be strong and do the right things. If this was happening back then I wouldn't just sit and wait like a praying mantis. Whatever your belief is, be human.
skaruts 9 months ago
ABORTION is likely to be the greatest threat Humanity has ever faced. Do you think that’s over blown ? How the world ends up depends on you & what you do next. Mankind destroys with disregard for the Hand by which it was created. Abortion not only destroys life but also human dignity. It is an outrage that has cost the world valuable leadership and obscured the direction of human events. The pollution that is in hearts has a more far-reaching effect. Disregard for God's laws
revnme 1 year ago
gods laws? what is god? I am not trying to be rude, just searching for a definition
chilton73 10 months ago
I hate when people fight and swear. It just makes the person difficult to talk to.
Here are my thoughts:
We just don't have proof that mankind has caused global warming.
Also, you said that the prestigious AAAS and NAS are backing up the argument that mankind DID cause it. Well you also said yourself in the skeptic video that scientists are not always factual. Aristotle believed that the earth was round and also the center of the universe. THAT was obviously proven false.
Just some facts.
lenlee14 1 year ago
maybe your dad is just tired of you spewing your g.w. crap and just wants you out of his living room!
aztrialsrider 1 year ago
I think this guy is giving his scientist buddies too much credit. after all the question isn't is it possible to change the world's climate, its is it possible to make irresponsible people make responsible decisions. And no I don't think the Gov't is the answer to this problem (to much corruption and scandal). Actually there is only one answer to a problem that is so big yet can't be seen or proven. And that is a God who is so big yet can't be seen or proven. God bless.
crxpunkb16 1 year ago
I believe global warming is a naturally occurring phenomenom, a cycle that is eratic yet balanced. The geological record of our planet has no mean temperature. There is no environmental blueprint to adhere to, it is in constant flux. Im not a nay sayer, i realise cfcs and other air pollution is not good for us or the world, the waters are polluted and too many trees are felled. However it is a self correcting system with or withot us and thats the issue mans survival.... if its our time so be it
universalcosmic 1 year ago
The lake scenarios is missing the people who would stand in front of that lake & somehow NOT observe the problem, then challenge any costs to fix a problem they refuse to see. They resist GW as an excuse to enact laws that gradually restrict freedoms & impose harsh restrictions on your way of life (without REAL evidence). However...impeding stem-cell research or gay-marriage? No problem trampling on THOSE freedoms without any "real"evidence...Hell really is the impossibility of reason.
supertrippfan 1 year ago
Now, I may be wrong and offensive, but if this is all God punishing us for our sins, I think we should just RESIST it. We'll start to worry if we see plagues and locusts later. We should just resist the punishment, since trying to maintain our species is more logical than just rolling over passively. A variation of wonderingmind42's argument: if you're about to get the death sentence, you wouldn't just sit there and let the Judge/Jury convict you. You would do something about it.
communistpianist 1 year ago
Global warming is a hoax. There is so much evidence now that refutes it. It is a lost cause. Mr. Wonderingmind computer geek never considered the possibility that it could just be for financial gain and that the earth's climate is always changing because of the sun. The carboniferous period of Earth's history had 500 times more CO2 in the atmosphere and life was sustained while the temperature was much hotter. Do your research instead of listening to this freak.
damienrockaterror 1 year ago
@damienrockaterror
So he's the freak and you're not -- Thanks, got it
BeondaPale 1 year ago
Deadly poisons and ways to feed them to man. I did not come up with that. And nor are those chemicals being put in our regular house hold water utility a willingly knowing by by a simple Joe or Jane like me. I was not in a lab figuring out a way to use Corexit for an oil spill, so I can watch 300 or men or so die from it on a BP oil rig, in that spill. I am not the one sticking Fluoride into a water supply.
Nor would a simple person do that.
Psycho intellects would. Court jest is your mind.
mamaschristmasbunny 1 year ago
Me' I am a Christian, but I never come to a conclusion nor would I push anything that I thought was a conclusion onto anyone else. Meaning: I am in a continual growth.
Your in summation is always proposed as fact with very little mystery. Where that is real scary. Myself I am a person who studies political science, but I have a love for all science of man. Simple man like me doesn't come up with these dispersants or harsh chemicals to put into the water. So your conclusion is non sequitur.
mamaschristmasbunny 1 year ago
It would be about right to see a man who has come to a conclusion on something but still calls himself a scientist. As Einstein did say basically 'the mystery in discovery is always the source of science' meaning there is a never a conclusion in science. See it is only fitting that a man who studies his own hypocrisy now talks about another thing that he has no facts on: but has an opinion on God. It is funny that your reasoning always ends at some conclusion. That is not science.
mamaschristmasbunny 1 year ago
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If you don't understand the Urim and Thummim you will never understand the will of God.
Exodus 28:30
Also put the Urim and the Thummim in the breastpiece, so they may be over Aaron's heart whenever he enters the presence of the LORD. Thus Aaron will always bear the means of making decisions for the Israelites over his heart before the LORD.
MrUrimthummim 1 year ago
its a cause and effect thing. it is not God's will that mankind suffers, however he gave men free will.
" 3 This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4 who would have all men to be saved, and come to the knowledge of the truth. " 1 Timothy 2:3,4
tyryte 1 year ago
I love this guy - he's got a truly logical mind, but is not disrespectful to faith convictions. He's probably a great teacher
BeondaPale 1 year ago
I think there is another point to be made.
IF God is real, and IF this is his Will, THEN could we stop it? But the question is, Is THIS God's Will?
If you are of the Judeo-Christian belief, then you will agree that the Bible says "Let us make man in our image,.... and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
God told us to take care of it regardless of His Will, that's our job.
WeaklyAnimated 1 year ago 27
@WeaklyAnimated Great point, but not only that, the Bible says that God gave us rule over nature. Just because your parents give you the keys to the house for their weekend vacation doesn't mean you can have a huge party and wreck the place. Just because a friend lends you their car and says "take care of it" doesn't mean you can run it into a telephone pole. We were given the task to protect nature. I think God's will was that we protect it.
archon099 1 year ago 5
@archon099 you think that all gods will was?
8matthewlee8 4 months ago
@WeaklyAnimated Also, what if our positive action against global climate destabilization IS God's will? O.o What if he caused our actions to do this so that we can learn to fix it or suffer his wrath, and that learning to fix it was his purpose in letting it happen? Like letting a kid fall down so he can learn to get back up... Think about it...
archon099 1 year ago
@WeaklyAnimated Even though I find the concept of the belief in a "God" to be irrational, I agree that it is our duty as intelligent sentient beings to take care of this planet and all the other lifeforms on it and to expand our knowledge and power and colonize other worlds to spread life and become the Guardians of the Universe.
mikerules999 1 year ago 8
@WeaklyAnimated
It doesn't hurt to try, because if there is a will, there is a way. If the problem is outside of our ability and we do take action anyways, then at least we tried. However, the probability of the global crisis being caused by us humans is along the lines of 99.9999999%
search4unknown 9 months ago
@WeaklyAnimated NICE TRY, BUT NO COCONUT!! YOUR ONLY CORRECT TO THE POINT OF MAN BEING GIVEN CHARGE PRIOR TO SATAN TRICKING HIM OUT OF IT!! NOW THE PLANET IS SATAN'S FOR THE TIME BEING..THIS IS WHY IT'S IN THE MESS IT'S IN..
DEMONSTOPPER 1 week ago
at the time of the flood according to science adn history the atmosphere was decreased if i remember correctly down to 30% from its original form. i ask myself your ? and my answer is humans can only control something thats in there reach and weaker. does the universe affect our climate? humans dont control the universe.i feel its partly God's will before it becomes something bad and unexplainable, after that its all humans and there afilliattes
imcrazy85 1 year ago
global warming is due to the sun
CO2 is good for trees
CO2, O , H2O, light are the 4 elements that makes life on this planet
taxing us on one of them means taxing us even for breathing
Im against pollution but not against imaginary threats
scorpionsSon 1 year ago
@scorpionsSon
"global warming is due to the sun"
Ultimately yes, but won't you get warmer wearing a coat than without one?
"CO2, O , H2O, light are the 4 elements that makes life on this planet"
C is an element CO2 and H2O are both made of 2 elements
Light is not an element
"taxing us on one of them means taxing us even for breathing"
This has nothing to do with the problem
BeondaPale 1 year ago
@BeondaPale Im sorry, you are right and way more intelligent than me
I adore you, I love you and respect you
How rude of me to use the 7th meaning of the word element when your majesty only apparently knows the first 4.
and btw, all the other words you typed have nothing to do with the problem,
scorpionsSon 1 year ago
@scorpionsSon
I do not require you adoration, love or even respect - just your abject obedience
now grovel before me ;)
and btw, CO2 DIRECTLY relates to the problem
BeondaPale 1 year ago
Thank you very much for this video. It was very well done and expressed without bias. Excellent Job!
saristaa1 1 year ago
Why is this still even a debate? The logic makes sense, the fact that the scientist (vast majority are saying this), what more do people need? Sad that these people need to be kicked in the balls before they realise, and then they complain. Also why would God do this? Our Sins? IF he exists I am sure he could come up with a bit of a better punishment. Too many stupid people in the world.
ReZinna1975 1 year ago
the role of the water quality expert has been usurped by the ideologues posing as scientists - omitting data as needed to get to the conclusion they were always after. This was not isolated and required the suspension of disbelieve at many levels by "scientists" who otherwise had required concurrence. What most of us really want is the scientists to be OBJECTIVE and non-political and for the politicians to stop promoting the pseudo-science.
LogicWillRule 1 year ago
every one in the world needs to watch these videos!!!!
ktmtjv080209 1 year ago
PEOPLE i dont think your getting this guys point, Even if its not us that is doing this somthing still has to be done or attempted so we my live such a thing. and even if it doesint help and GW still distroys most of us... ask yourself this. do you want to survive? the choice is yours.
sporeisGOD1 1 year ago
@sporeisGOD1 i dont think thats his point he seems smart and knows a man can not do anything really to stop God i mean i think satan would have dont u
imcrazy85 1 year ago
If climate change is being caused by human activity then why are temps on other planets in our solar system also changing ? Do people like yourself even consider that something other than humans could be the cause like I duno the SUN ? Thats why I love global warming people like yourself because u act like global climate regulations are the only thing that will stop GW but u fail to ask the simple question what if human actions are not the cause?
DarkBioCloud 1 year ago
brillant
MrMelick 1 year ago
Again, nicely reaoned arguements on the vid.
turisalba 1 year ago
@64jcl Education is fine, as long as that's where it ends.
staytheknight 1 year ago
@AshtonPhoto What vile comments are you refering to?
staytheknight 1 year ago
I want this guy to die in a redbull induced fire. Does this make me a bad person?
sparky303 1 year ago
@staytheknight I too believe mankind will be judged for our sins, but I ask you to consider one thing in this. When the day comes for the world to be remade as He sees fit we will not be able to stop it (God is all powerful) & since money is no longer of value to anyone at that point expending any amount of resources to try won't really hurt the process or aftermath. So whenever we face a situation that may be the end why not try our best to stop it & greet God when we can't?
MrJordanStanford 1 year ago
@MrJordanStanford First I want to apologize for the delay in my reply. From what I read in Scripture I find two reasons. The 1st it is the Christian's command to " 'Go, therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit.' " It is the Christian's duty first and foremost to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Jesus paid a high price for the redemption of humanity, and it's the church's duty to expand the family of God.
staytheknight 1 year ago
@MrJordanStanford
And secondly, because it is already written. Psalm 119:89 says "Forever, O Lord Your word is settled in heaven." And in the Olivet discourse found in Matt 24, Mark13, and Luke 21. In all of them Jesus speaks of famines, pestilences, and earthquakes. And there are many other places where signs of the end are spoken of. I understand that it is also the job of the Christian to be a good steward of God's creation, we also have to keep in my though that these things must happen.
staytheknight 1 year ago
@staytheknight Can we not be good stewards of God's creation, spread his word, love our fellow man to show that God loves us all, and in the process try to stop these issues? My whole stance on this is that if we as human beings are causing these problems we will make the world a terrible place to live by doing nothing, but if these occurrences are the end of the world directed by God we won't be able to stop them from happening, but still can achieve all of these other goals while trying.
MrJordanStanford 1 year ago
@MrJordanStanford
We as Christians need to be careful with what kind of help we offer to our fellow man. Sending food and seeds, building water delivery systems, offering medical aid to famine destroyed countries, and things like that. I 100% agree with you. There is nothing more Christian than that. But when you get into regulations and policy related "help" then we would be doing more harm than good.
staytheknight 1 year ago
@MrJordanStanford
And here's why. With regulations, how far do we take them? Do we ban all private ownership of vehicles? Do we force people into vegetarian life styles? Do we enforce global population control? If so how? Do we sterilize people? Force abortions? If so how do you determine who? and by what standards do you use? These are drastic examples, but not ones that haven't been used before (Nazi Germany, even in the US in the 1920's! Look up eugenics)
staytheknight 1 year ago
@staytheknight
I think the best way is by educating people about cause and effect so that they can make wise choices about how you go about living your life. You dont have to have 10 children to live a good life, you dont need a big gas guzzling SUV to get around, you dont have to fly on holiday across the whole globe 3 times a year, consider moving closer to work, etc, etc. Make wise decisions and it all adds up to a better world, believe me.
64jcl 1 year ago
@64jcl Well said. Wish more Americans had this philosophy.
MsZippity 1 year ago
The Bible says that God gave Adam a control over the earth, and when Adam sinned since he(Adam) was in control of the ground God had to curse the ground for Adam's sin (see Genesis 3:17-19, and Romans 8:19-22) And since the world is sinful, we (Humanity and the creation) have to die (see Romans 5.) But at the end the earth and those who accept the Jesus will be made new(see Revelation 21.) So in conclusion these things must take place, and it's not done out of a wrathful God, but sinful man.
staytheknight 1 year ago
The global warming cult calling some other religious cult wrong is the pot calling the kettle black.
crutmauler 1 year ago
I like your open mind and the way you ask questions to gain wisdom and knowledge. It's something people should always do instead of jump to swearing bad words or sitting there being stubborn.
Fridabeekman 1 year ago
Let me get this straight.
You know nothing about the subject but people talk about it so you produce a video dealing with it?
In trying to figure out what may or may not be God's will you talk to people who also don't know, are not qualified to even guess, and are probably extremely poor representatives of God cherry picked by you to give your position more credence.
Like the 'dumb Americans' videos, it's just too easy.
AshtonPhoto 1 year ago
@AshtonPhoto As an expert on the discussed subject, I agree with the position he takes. I will also like to add that your comment contributes to my logical conclusion that he's smarter than you'll ever be.
IMMUNEHUMAN 1 year ago
@IMMUNEHUMAN
An ad hominem jibe is the very first thing you have to say as an 'expert on the discussed subject'??
I credit Greg with commendable reasoning, I just believe he's wrong. He prefaced his arguments by saying he knew "very little" about the topic but drew firm conclusions anyway. So much for logic.
Smart people --"scientists"-- in the 1970s thought we were doomed as well, by an ice age. They were as convinced as you apparently are now but were totally wrong.
AshtonPhoto 1 year ago
@AshtonPhoto No, the very first thing I said was that I agreed with his position. Why do I get the feeling you're having trouble reading simple sentences? Earth to Nigel...'We want our wacky photographer back!'
IMMUNEHUMAN 1 year ago
@IMMUNEHUMAN
Ok, ok, ok. You got me.
But may I ask your qualifications to be considered an expert? Are you a climatologist? If so have you published any research that I could peruse? I'm not being facetious either.
I really do want to understand all of this, but let me state again, I'm old enough to remember being told about our impending icy fate by people much brighter than I. Here we are just a few years later and we're being told the exact opposite.
I want to know why.
AshtonPhoto 1 year ago
@AshtonPhoto If you believe in a personal god you're already well on your way to believing without evidence. Anyways, we can't be sure yet, but if the Namoc (North Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation) which includes the Gulf Stream is disrupted and loses it's strength like it did during the Younger Dryas, it will carry less heat thanks to global warming and the meltdown of Arctic Ice. Northern Europe will experience a drop in temperature, making winter much harsher.
IMMUNEHUMAN 1 year ago
@AshtonPhoto Science progresses along with all things. If you were in the military would you want to use tactics and training from the 1970's, or now?
Yatty1833 1 year ago
@Yatty1833
I agree in principle, but scientists tend to make definitive statements only to later disavow, alter or outright contradict those statements. And everyone just forgets.
As I said, in the 70s it was an ice age.
Then we were all doomed from the impending "population explosion".
After that, we were all going to die from nuclear war.
Then AIDS.
Currently it's 'global warming'.
Who knows what it'll be next.
Sorry to sound dismissive, but I'm seeing a pattern here...
AshtonPhoto 1 year ago
@AshtonPhoto You proved my point. All of those things have changed because the evidence involved has changed too. HIV used to be a death sentence, now you can live a long and fulfilling life with HIV. The population explosion did (is) happen, it just wasnt gloom and doom, the author admits this. Again, all based on facts and evidence at the time. So you see a pattern that scientists change their predictions and theories based on evidence? Give this man a nobel prize!
Yatty1833 1 year ago
@Yatty1833
With respect, you have not.
The 'population explosion' did not happen, and is not happening. The 'evidence' was false and the science was specious. I read the newspapers and the reports myself.
HIV kills 10k per annum in the US alone. A death sentence for many it still is.
Scientists were CERTAIN about global cooling. The evidence was conclusive.
No reasonable person could oppose the fact that we were heading to an ice age.
All these people had "facts" but they were wrong.
AshtonPhoto 1 year ago
@AshtonPhoto "Scientists" (read: Media) were certain it was happening. The community was calling for more research (nature volume 270 Dec 22-29 ). Lifespan with HIV has increased from 7 years to 24 years today (CDC). A death sentence for those who cant afford the medication perhaps (but a long fulfilling life can be had otherwise), but thats barking up a different tree. So your point is that people (Scientists too I imagine) can be wrong? There is always a measure of doubt, thats the point.
Yatty1833 1 year ago
@Yatty1833 I agree.
The environmentalist message is "humans are killing the planet".
The main culprits are evil and corrupt corporations and nefarious government agencies (as well as dangerous religious fundamentalists) who are conspiring to destroy the delicate ecological balance of the planet.
You're not entitled to your opinion, you must agree that we're raping the planet or you're subject to hateful contempt. Just read some of the vile comments on this video.
So much for 'tolerance'.
AshtonPhoto 1 year ago
too many people are religious and think that the big sky daddy will swwop in at the last moment and save us
so we're fucked
UncertainTruth 1 year ago
cough cough haarp
EYEOFASERPENT 1 year ago
God said, No one knows when it's all going to happen, so why try to push his hand. he said to take care of the earth and befruitful in Genesis. Judoyadon is just as ignorant as some of these "christian" who say things with out really knowing.
RigobertoMartinez07 1 year ago
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@RigobertoMartinez07 There is no god. Surprised?
IMMUNEHUMAN 1 year ago
Christianity is a mental disorder. It has retarded the advancement of humankind since its inception and should be discarded to the heap of other failed mythologies as quickly as possible.
judoyodan 1 year ago
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@judoyodan do you believe that of all faiths?
thewriterjustin 1 year ago
@judoyodan definitely , its unfortunate because we're at a point in time when action MAY save us but people operating under the delusion of the celestial safety greatly outnumber us who live in reality , its pretty tragic
UncertainTruth 1 year ago
God trolls you 24/7, that's your answer to all your existential bullshit.
bamcis17 1 year ago
Everything this guy says is designed to lead you to an answer, this is a clever sales technique for his idea, like a complex yes ladder.
sleeper1929 1 year ago
@sleeper1929 And what you just said is a clever way of discrediting him without evening giving one counter argument to his logic.
IGNsucks 1 year ago
@IGNsucks Well he's the one putting this forward in the first place, there are so many variables to what is going on and his model to find a solution, when extended far enough to account for all known or calculatable variables, doesn't tell us anything we don't already know. I thought that was obvious?
sleeper1929 1 year ago
@sleeper1929 yeah well most of the time the things which seem obvious to you arent to others.
IGNsucks 1 year ago
I think it's hard to find to many "religious" people who would believe that a person polluting the environment is god's will. The fundamental problem that I have with people who push "environmental" issues today is that they have nothing to do with the environment and they are simply a power grab. I agree, man polluting the river should be stopped, god calls us to be stewards right? I don't think the problem can be solved by giving money to the UN or any corrupt gov org for that matter.
YounGunner2121 1 year ago
Environmentalist need to quit focusing on global governance and start focusing on the environment. They might actually get something done that way.
YounGunner2121 1 year ago